Skip to comments.At Penn Stateís stadium, profanity, scorn greet one fatherís protest
Posted on 11/15/2011 5:45:26 AM PST by LSUfan
STATE COLLEGE, Pa. In the middle of Curtin Road, John Matko held one handwritten sign in his right hand and rested another against his jeans. Two inches of black tape obscured Penn States logo on the 34-year-old fathers hat, as he tried to ignore the jeers, slaps and beer hurled at him.
Put abused kids first, one of Matkos signs read. Dont be fooled, they all knew. Tom Bradley, everyone must go.
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Before Paterno took over, Penn State had NEVER done anything at all to speak of in football. Within two years, they were undefeated. And if you talk to people in coaching circles back then, and I have, there was indeed speculation that Paterno was buying players. He became so successful and revered, however, that those whispers died out forever. Maybe they shouldn't have.
Watch this 14 min video on Penn State from 2008 done by ESPN...look at Paterno's paranoia...look at how defensive he is...despite popular opinion, the guy was running a thug program...and reportedly telling players not to cooperate with investigators. His only defense: "I don't know how to text message or use a computer."...
Now look at this...
Before all is said and done, we're going to find out that Paterno was very much like a Godfather and Penn State a den of corruption that was revered by the media, before these ugliest of charges came to light...
Take a look at this coaching staff and tell me they didn't know. They have all been there for YEARS...this has all the signs of a secretive, insular enterprise with many things to hide...
Tom Bradley - Interim Head Coach 33RD SEASON AT PENN STATE Dick Anderson - Asst. Coach, OL/Guards & Centers 34TH SEASON AT PENN STATE Kermit Buggs - Asst. Coach, Safeties 9TH SEASON AT PENN STATE Galen Hall - Asst. Coach, Offense/Running Backs 8TH SEASON AT PENN STATE Larry Johnson - Asst. Coach, Defensive Line 15TH SEASON AT PENN STATE Bill Kenney - Asst. Coach, Off. Tackles/Tight Ends 24TH SEASON AT PENN STATE Mike McQueary - Asst. Coach, WR/Recruiting Coordinator 8TH SEASON AT PENN STATE Jay Paterno - Asst. Coach, Quarterbacks 17TH SEASON AT PENN STATE John Thomas - Strength and Conditioning Coach 20TH SEASON AT PENN STATE Ron Vanderlinden - Asst. Coach, Linebackers 11TH SEASON AT PENN STATE
Assistant coaches stay in one position in college football, on average, for about 3 years. Then they move on, either by choice or due to firing of themselves or the head coach they are working for.
None of these guys at Penn State seem to have any ambition at all. They seem to be content to stay as assistants for DECADES...Moreover, Penn State's acknowledged salary structure was lower than most other programs.
I am sorry, I find this very odd. It resembles a closed, insular society...
Dare we use the word ‘cult’?
This is a sad, sad tale. It shows that so many people still don’t get it. The guy graduated from Penn State. Obviously, he’s a fan. But he has the right perspective. Something a lot of these “fans” don’t understand. Unfortunately, this is not just a reflection on Penn State, but society at large. Does anyone think that if given the same circumstances at other big time college football programs, the same reaction from the fans would not happen? I believe they would.
I am sorry but cheating to get a player does not come close to what this program did to little boys.
I heard a former player at Penn State who is sick over this and refuses to back the program.
He said Joe Paterno was more powerful than anyone at Penn State period.
He also said if he missed a class Joe Paterno would call him in the office, that is how much Joe knew what was going on at Penn State.
By winking at buggery by a philanthropic-minded coach, Paterno suddenly made Penn State into a winning team?
I almost have to wonder what drug I just smoked. Evil (if that’s what Paterno is) isn’t normally rewarded like this. Bizarre. Odd. Weird.
... IF it ever did molest little boys, it looks like Sandusky may have pushed the line but stayed on the right side of it, with no smoking gun or visibly perforated target to be found.
Still, very odd.
Anyhow, if Paterno cheated to get more of his fair share of high school football stars, shouldn’t the NCAA be interested?
That should be, more THAN his fair share.
Paterno created a secretive culture of corruption that was a perfect environment for a guy like Sandusky to hide in.
There are now reports that Sandusky was recruiting for Penn State as recently as this year. If true, that is a violation of NCAA rules and, when all the dust settles from the Attorney General, District Attorney, Texas, Florida and US Dept of Education investigations, the NCAA may in fact come in on these issues.
But right now there is nothing to investigate because all of the evidence will be sequestered by investigators and lawyers.
But the dirt will come out. You can’t hide this kind of stuff when people are worried about going to prison. It will come out...
I was at the game and did not see what is being reported. People attending were there for the student-athletes and behaved as such during the game.
Did have an opportunity to speak to someone from the media and they told me the students would not speak to them as they were not trusting the media to report honestly. The student body is very upset about the charges, care about the victims and believe the portrayal of their university has been very one-sided slam. There are many great student-run organizations doing wonderful things, yet receive little exposure. The ‘rioting’ that took place Wednesday night was peaceful until few hooligans turned the van, then others took that as an opportunity to turn violent. Fewer than 50 students took part in the ‘rioting’ out of 40,000 on campus, yet you hear of the PSU students rioting.
Many people are posting informatin based on the media reports. Since when did people on this forum trust the media to correctly report a story?
Well, I guess that settles that . . .
Sadly, the media suddenly seems becomes a trusted source whenever they're reporting something in a way to back a poster's particular agenda.
The scenes from Happy Valley spoke for themselves. One sign was particularly symbolic at the game on Saturday:
“Stand as One.”
That is exactly what allowed Sandusky to get away with his crimes for years. It was all kept in the family. No one had the courage and morality to make a stand and NOT stand as one with the culture in Happy Valley.
That is an awesome article by Michael Reagan. Sadly, Maryland Man will simply claim that Reagan is a member of the media treating Paterno unfairly...sigh...
Better send me off to jail. I’ve been with the same company for 21 years. A colleague calls me furniture instead of insular.
John Matko is a brave and principled man.
The possibility does exist that there could be a random act of journalism perpetrated by “journalists”.
football football uber alis
True, but it's simple human nature to be less rigorous in vetting the source when they're agreeing with you (or at least telling you what you want to hear).
That's spelled "über alles", fwtw. You're right though. The Nazi crowd controllers indeed adapted many motifs from American college football. Clearly they recognized just how effective at firing up a controlled crowd and instilling group loyalty they were.
American College Football Cheerleading and the Nazi Salute:
US wartime intelligence believed the Nazi salute may have been copied from American cheerleaders based on the views of one of the Fuhrer's best friends in the 1920s, Ernst Hanfstaengl.
The Office of Strategic Services explains how Hitler developed the salute: "In 1923 he adored American football marches and college songs. The 'Sieg Heil' used in all political rallies is a direct copy of the technique used by American football cheerleaders."
It continues: "The American college type of music was used to excite the German masses who had been used to very dry-as-dust political lectures."
-- slightly digested from http://www.breakingnews.ie/archives/2001/0728/world/kfsnmhsnsn/
What happened at Penn State is not about college football. It is about Penn State. These terrible crimes were not occurring anywhere else. The Penn State coaching staff and its odd culture resemble no other football program in America.
The secretive culture of corruption that allowed a monster like Jerry Sandusky to hide out in the open within its midst was, is and, hopefully, always will be unique to Penn State under Joe Paterno.
Ostrich-like thinking there, fan-person.
To refuse to confront or acknowledge a problem.
I am not refusing to acknowledge or confront a problem. The fact is, Joe Paterno covered up for a child molester at Penn State. Penn State has a huge problem. But there is not even any suggestion that anything like this occurred elsewhere.
Couple this with all the truly unique (and now apparently creepy) aspects of Penn State’s closed, secretive, insular culture and it is as clear as the nose on your face that the problem exists at Penn State and blaming “college football” would be a cop out pure and simple.
I don't think there's anything "sudden" about it. It's human nature to trust those who back your point of view (this should be abundantly evident when reading threads about the various GOP candidates).
The particular soil of big time college football brings out many forms of crops. The Paterno-Sandusky harvest is only one. Other programs will have similar crops.