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To: Charlespg
Football football uber alis!

That's spelled "über alles", fwtw. You're right though. The Nazi crowd controllers indeed adapted many motifs from American college football. Clearly they recognized just how effective at firing up a controlled crowd and instilling group loyalty they were.

American College Football Cheerleading and the Nazi Salute:

US wartime intelligence believed the Nazi salute may have been copied from American cheerleaders based on the views of one of the Fuhrer's best friends in the 1920s, Ernst Hanfstaengl.

The Office of Strategic Services explains how Hitler developed the salute: "In 1923 he adored American football marches and college songs. The 'Sieg Heil' used in all political rallies is a direct copy of the technique used by American football cheerleaders."

It continues: "The American college type of music was used to excite the German masses who had been used to very dry-as-dust political lectures."

-- slightly digested from http://www.breakingnews.ie/archives/2001/0728/world/kfsnmhsnsn/


22 posted on 11/15/2011 7:33:19 AM PST by bvw
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To: bvw

What happened at Penn State is not about college football. It is about Penn State. These terrible crimes were not occurring anywhere else. The Penn State coaching staff and its odd culture resemble no other football program in America.

The secretive culture of corruption that allowed a monster like Jerry Sandusky to hide out in the open within its midst was, is and, hopefully, always will be unique to Penn State under Joe Paterno.


23 posted on 11/15/2011 7:38:59 AM PST by LSUfan
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