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Herman's Just Not Ready
American Spectator ^ | November 15, 2011 | ROSS KAMINSKY

Posted on 11/15/2011 5:56:51 AM PST by reaganaut1

Herman Cain is theoretically a great candidate for president. He's a smart, black, successful, conservative "outsider." But as the reality sets in, it's clear that Mr. Cain is barely more ready for the office he seeks than Sarah Palin (or Barack Obama) was four years ago. Cain's performance in a long interview on Monday crystallized this view which has been forming in the minds of many GOP voters in recent weeks.

Mr. Cain's responses in Saturday's Republican debate in South Carolina -- which focused on foreign policy -- were a bunch of platitudes about getting good advice before making a decision. Frequently, his answers on topics that he doesn't really know much about focus on a few points of process, on getting quality advice, on not needing to know everything in advance, and so on.

But this is the real world and these are dangerous times. While the 2012 election will primarily be about jobs and the economy, events across the Arab world and escalating tensions between Iran and Israel -- not least because of the IAEA's most recent report about advances in Iran's nuclear weapon program -- make foreign policy and national security expertise critically important in our next president.

If there is anything America has been reminded of by Barack Obama, it's that the presidency is no place for on-the-job training -- and it's even less so when potential nuclear conflict is involved. Herman Cain gave an interview to the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel on Monday in which his answers on questions about Libya -- and his further discussion with the newspaper's editors on broader foreign policy issues -- sounded like a student trying hard to remember the answers for a test he's been cramming for.

(Excerpt) Read more at spectator.org ...


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I agree with Kaminsky. Freepers want a true-blue conservative, but for most Americans the first qualification is that a candidate knows what he is talking about.
1 posted on 11/15/2011 5:56:51 AM PST by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1

I like Cain personally, but I DO NOT think the WH is the place to start a new career in politics.


2 posted on 11/15/2011 5:58:45 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: reaganaut1
Cain is the only true blue Conservative. He is also the only one who looks at the problems and says “what are the solution”

All the others looks at the problems and say “how do I get votes out of this”

Leave it to “True Conservatives” to think electing yet another GOP Establishementbot in 2012 is going to change anything

3 posted on 11/15/2011 5:59:11 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: reaganaut1
Herman Cain

born December 13, 1945 in Memphis, TN (Meets the Jus Soli Requirement)

Parents were
Luther Cain Jr., born March 16, 1925 in TN, died March 29, 1982 in Atlanta, GA
Lenora Davis, born July 27, 1925 in GA, died August 20, 2005 in Atlanta, GA

Both parents were US Citizens at the time of his birth (Meets the Jus Sanguinis Requirement)

Herman Cain is a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN

”Herman

Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama ISN'T!

Click on the cane, (America is Ready.)

4 posted on 11/15/2011 5:59:57 AM PST by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: reaganaut1

Herman’s just not a beltway insider.

He’s pro-freedom, pro-faith, pro-life, pro-gun

That’s good enough for me.

I sent him another donation just last night.

The intelligentsia and the effete elitists can stuff it.


5 posted on 11/15/2011 6:00:06 AM PST by Westbrook
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To: reaganaut1
But as the reality sets in, it's clear that Mr. Cain is barely more ready for the office he seeks than Sarah Palin (or Barack Obama) was four years ago.

Another moron looking down his nose at Palin. Palin actually had experience in winning debates, elections and fighting entrenched corruption. Imagine that quality in the White House now.

6 posted on 11/15/2011 6:00:15 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: reaganaut1

Cain is ready. Far more ready than Barrack Obama ever was.

He loves America and knows the principles upon which she is built and has exercised those in the private sector to great success.

He is qualified according to the Constitution and I trust the man. That’s enough to this point for me.

He will have to gaffe and fail a whole lot worse than he has to lose my vote.


7 posted on 11/15/2011 6:01:18 AM PST by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: reaganaut1

Cain knows exactly what he’s talking about. You’d prefer cry babies like Romney or Perry who act like playground enemies?

My father retired from the ministry after many years and was offered a job as a plant manager of a large insulation business. He had never done that type of work before, but the man who owned it said he “needed someone honest to run the place” since his sons and other managers had nearly bankrupt him.

My dad got rid of the employees he needed to...and in his words “hired the folks that knew much more than he did so he could learn from them and make proper decisions.”

The business flourished and my dad worked there for 15 yrs as a beloved manager.

Your argument holds no water. What did Obama know? (hint. ZERO)


8 posted on 11/15/2011 6:01:18 AM PST by sevinufnine (Sevin - "If we do not fight when we know we can win, we'll have to fight when we know we will lose")
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To: oh8eleven

So National Security is your issue?

What is the most pressing foreign policy issue of our day?

Iran’s attempt to get nukes and missiles to delver them.

So what do we do? Invade a 4th country? Ignore it? Start a covert war with Iran? Help the Gulf Arabs and the Israelis get nukes also?

OR Do we make forceful clear statement, as Cain would, that any attack on Israel will be viewed as an attack on the USA.

Then we do back up that statement, as Cain says, an build up our system of naval warships (i.e the Aegis ships Cain is talking about) that have the ability to knock down any Iranian missiles in flight thus giving our side an ability to neutralize the Iranian threat and protect our regional interests, without starting yet another war or adding to the destabilizing of the region.

Can we really just rely on Mutual Assured Destruction to Contain the leaders of an Iranian Death Cult that believes that a massive act of suicide will usher in the rule of the Hidden Mahdi?

Cain is the only one who looked at the real problem with Iran and said “here are the solutions”


9 posted on 11/15/2011 6:01:49 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: reaganaut1

We don’t have to worry about that with Newt. He’s the smartest guy in the room. He hasn’t been the most consistent conservative over the years, but he would immediately be the most conservative president since Reagan. And he knows his stuff. I like Cain, but I can’t argue with the experience criticism. He has time to get up to speed, though. We’ll see.


10 posted on 11/15/2011 6:02:20 AM PST by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: reaganaut1

American Spectator has no cred it’s a shill for establishment RINO’s like Karl Rove and Mittens. Of course they are going to run Cain down. The poster needs to go home to Daily Kos. Nice try.


11 posted on 11/15/2011 6:03:29 AM PST by 4Runner
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To: oh8eleven

Start a new career in politics?

PROFESSIONAL POLITICIANS are what’s KILLING this country.

Good Lord. Even people who profess to be conservatives have bought the hook, line and sinker lie that only “professional politicians” can govern.

Let me ask, was George Washington a Professional Politician? Some of our best presidents were NOT professional politicians and some of our WORST were.

We have no hope if we keep electing the type of people who have spent this county into a depression.


12 posted on 11/15/2011 6:03:31 AM PST by BereanBrain
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To: reaganaut1

Oh really. Most of the ones up there that know what they are talking about use what they know to subvert the US and it’s people.


13 posted on 11/15/2011 6:03:43 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: reaganaut1

The professional politicians have done such a great job for us, haven’t they? s/


14 posted on 11/15/2011 6:04:50 AM PST by manic4organic (We won. Get over it.)
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To: reaganaut1

I think the question on Libya caught him off guard. He wasn’t sure if it was Libya the country or Libby Ya some chic that was making a claim.


15 posted on 11/15/2011 6:05:25 AM PST by joesbucks
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To: reaganaut1

Yes, it takes a REAL PROFESSIONAL POLITICIAN, with decades of government experience, to cause the kind of mess we have in Washington, and Herman is just not qualified.

The only thing he has ever done is take failing companies and turn them into a successes.

And we dont want any of that going on in Washington... no sirreee.


16 posted on 11/15/2011 6:05:32 AM PST by Mr. K (Physically unable to proofreed <--- oops, see?)
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To: BereanBrain

With our country in the dire straits it is...how anyone can consider those without experience defies understanding. If Cain wins he will be a “figure head” because he will need enoormous propping up by others behind the scenes, just as he’s being given now.....he would have been finished already had others not stepped in to shore him up.


17 posted on 11/15/2011 6:06:39 AM PST by caww
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To: reaganaut1
Freepers want a true-blue conservative

And you think that's Newt?

Newt Gingrich calls the Ryan Plan "Right-Wing Social Engineering".

Newt Gingrich endorses Dede Scozzafava in NY-23 House race

Newt Gingrich - Long Time Supporter Of Health Insurance Mandates

18 posted on 11/15/2011 6:08:05 AM PST by McGruff (Hold the House, retake the Senate.)
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To: joesbucks

Libya...Libya...Libya...that’s the one with Khadafi right?!? After watchting that video I don’t think Cain could find Libya on a map.

If he can’t answer a questions with “9-9-9”, he’s screwed.


19 posted on 11/15/2011 6:09:01 AM PST by teddyballgame1
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To: oh8eleven

“I like Cain personally, but I DO NOT think the WH is the place to start a new career in politics.”

I agree, but Cain might be the best one left who has a chance. Cain MIGHT work out if he has the wisdom to choose cabinet members that make up for his lack of expertise in areas.

We needed a military leader like Ike in his times, but our economic situation now shows the need for a person with business management skills.

Sarah Palin’s record as governor shows she was vastly more qualified to be president than Cain or Obama. I have to wholeheartedly disagree with that statement in the article about her being not qualified.


20 posted on 11/15/2011 6:09:36 AM PST by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: reaganaut1

All you need as president for good foreign policy is common sense and the ability to trust your experts.

That’s what Cain’s points were centered around.

As leader of the free world, that’s what you should be doing... LEADING.

NOBODY on that stage or especially in the white house has any right answers... ONLY OPINION!

Cain was simply honest about the reality of the situation. Nobody really knows.


21 posted on 11/15/2011 6:09:47 AM PST by Safrguns
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To: sevinufnine

Here’s Cain speaking on Libya...this does not depict one who has any degree of a fix on what’s going on...his confusion he himself admits....trys hard but realizes he’s in the wrong ball park.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/herman-cain-stumbles-badly-on-libya-question/2011/11/14/gIQADxpoLN_blog.html?hpid=z1


22 posted on 11/15/2011 6:10:02 AM PST by caww
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To: oh8eleven
Vietnam went the way it did ENTIRELY BECAUSE PEOPLE PUT IN CAREER POLITICIANS.

The notion that politics and the judiciary are a realm for an elite class is how we got where we are. No thanks.

Semper Fidelis

23 posted on 11/15/2011 6:10:06 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: sevinufnine

Here’s Cain speaking on Libya...this does not depict one who has any degree of a fix on what’s going on...his confusion he himself admits....trys hard but realizes he’s in the wrong ball park.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/herman-cain-stumbles-badly-on-libya-question/2011/11/14/gIQADxpoLN_blog.html?hpid=z1


24 posted on 11/15/2011 6:11:25 AM PST by caww
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To: MNJohnnie
So National Security is your issue?
Hmmm, I reread my post a few times just to be sure and just as I thought, I never mentioned national security.
You "Cainiacs" are grasping at straws pizzas.
25 posted on 11/15/2011 6:11:44 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: reaganaut1

That clip was bad. You read the transcript and you cringe. I’m sure he was tired, but then his staff should have never let him be interviewed at that point. They are mishandling him - they’re amateurs, and it shows.

But IMO, Cain made it worse when he says “it was only a pause, good grief.” Are you kidding me? You got asked a question and the first thing you say is: “Did the President support the uprising?”

Hint 1: I know the answer to that Herman.
Hint 2: You’re supposed to know the answer to that Herman.

I like Cain. But he better D up, because the scrutiny isn’t going to decrease. It’s only going to get worse. Time to hire some staff that can manage his schedule and prep. him properly. Or I’ll never get the chance to vote for him.


26 posted on 11/15/2011 6:11:53 AM PST by Solaia (Ladies and gentlemen take my advice: pull down your pants and slide on the ice.)
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To: reaganaut1

Really,so you agree with the Country Club that Palin and Cain are both an embarrassment? I say let the Country Club hold their nose and vote for our candidate this time.

Pray for America


27 posted on 11/15/2011 6:12:25 AM PST by bray (Take the Cain Train off the Plantation)
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To: reaganaut1

I’ve posted CAins Libya conversation for those who have missed it...it’s hard to view because he is one of our own...It just shows he simply is not ready by any means.


28 posted on 11/15/2011 6:13:08 AM PST by caww
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To: reaganaut1

Cain’s not ready.
Perry is toast and is a Rino.
Palin’s not running.
Bachman is at 4%
Newt had deals with Pelosi, backed Scuzzafaver.
Romney is a leftie.

If any of these run, we should leave our ballot blank as they aren’t truly worthy.
But, it’s ok, we’ll sweep them in 2016 when Palin really runs and the country is so desparate for our country’s roots they’ll have to vote for us, right?

Do you get my point? This is asinine. This is why the radio hosts haven’t endorsed anyone yet. But, when we tear our own down and agree with the beltway insiders, the MSM, they win.

To win this election, we have to unite. We have to give voters a reason to vote R instead of D in the senate and house or those are gone, too. Wake up and stop agreeing with these punks as I’d rather have a conservative with little or no foreign policy exp than Obama with none.

Plus, the more we tear our own down, the easier it will be for Romney to win and thus Obama.


29 posted on 11/15/2011 6:13:18 AM PST by CincyRichieRich (Keep your head up and keep moving forward!)
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To: All

The Cain Cult are blind...


30 posted on 11/15/2011 6:13:28 AM PST by Doofer
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To: Jeff Head

What HE said...

+1

Bump

Dittos.


31 posted on 11/15/2011 6:13:49 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: reaganaut1
The author was spot on in this assessment. Up until the last point, when he implied that Cain was like a high school student who had been cramming for an exam.

It's obvious that Cain has not been cramming for anything, other that his next book tour, seeking cheers and attention and making money off of future speaking engagements.

There is also another issue that may come up in the near future about Cain's ethical stature and that is an accusation that Cain has violated FEC campaign financing rules, by using Campaign donations (funds) to buy 13,000 copies of his new book from himself. Which would not only allow Cain to get income from the campaign, but also give the impression of how fast his book is selling.

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2011/10/herman-cain-books-campaign-funds-/1

This has serious potential of being much bigger than the recent Sexual harassment scandal.

32 posted on 11/15/2011 6:14:08 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: Doofer

Having said that I see a bunch of losers.


33 posted on 11/15/2011 6:15:03 AM PST by Doofer
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To: BereanBrain
Let me ask, was George Washington a Professional Politician?

He was a soldier. And not one of our best presidents--he was a big government Federalist. Hell, he wasn't even a very good general, according to the military historians. His saving grace was that he had good generals working for him, and against his own instincts was wise enough to follow their ideas and not his own.

Some of our best presidents were NOT professional politicians

I'm thinking of our better presidents...Reagan, had a solid political resume. Coolidge, same. Jefferson--basically in politics from his early 30s on. Who else...Taft? Career politician.

Who were our great presidents without relevant political experience?

34 posted on 11/15/2011 6:15:08 AM PST by Huck (I predict record low turnout for the GOP primaries.)
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To: reaganaut1

Sorry, but once the Obamaloon got into office, the “lack of experience” claim is dead.

And since the Bubba and Dead Ted were revered, the “sexual harrassment” claim is dead.

Democrats have done us all a favor. They have lowered the morals and intelligence bar so far that we really can nominate anyone we want - and still exceed their “stars”.


35 posted on 11/15/2011 6:15:21 AM PST by Da Coyote (Liberalism - when you absolutely, positively have no ability to produce wealth.)
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To: reaganaut1
But as the reality sets in, it's clear that Mr. Cain is barely more ready for the office he seeks than Sarah Palin (or Barack Obama) was four years ago.

Bull$h!t.

You want a president, or another "show dog?"

36 posted on 11/15/2011 6:15:47 AM PST by papertyger (What has islam ever accomplished that treacherous, opportunistic, brutality couldn't do on its own?)
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To: teddyballgame1; caww; joesbucks; reaganaut1

Most people would be more impressed with the Cain critics if they didn’t all sound like 12 year olds fighting on a playground. This author is no different

It is this habitual posting of childish ad homine attacks at Cain that make thinking people dismiss the Cain critic’s arguments as silly nonsense.

How about a rational fact based post making a case against Cain rather then a childish personal attack for a change?


37 posted on 11/15/2011 6:16:04 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Westbrook

I just signed up for Herman Cain’s grassroot efforts!


38 posted on 11/15/2011 6:16:20 AM PST by not2worry
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To: Huck

Eisenhower.

You lose, again.


39 posted on 11/15/2011 6:16:42 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: reaganaut1
Herman Cain can take the race factor out of the equation. He will get a significant portion of the Black vote. On the other hand, Newt, the old, fat White guy, doesn't really excite conservative, young people or African Americans (IMHO).

Newt doesn't excite older conservatives like me because I remember when he was in charge of the House, he let the Demoncrats walk all over him. They ruled the House, not Newt and the Republicans.

I would rather take a chance on Cain. NO ONE could be worse than Obamanation.

40 posted on 11/15/2011 6:16:51 AM PST by A. Patriot (Have we lost our Republic? Do the majority of Americans care?)
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To: reaganaut1

There’s one problem: by the time a politician has been in the game long enough to be considered “ready”, he will have been compromised by the DC Establishment.


41 posted on 11/15/2011 6:17:11 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
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To: Westbrook

“Herman’s just not a beltway insider.

He’s pro-freedom, pro-faith, pro-life, pro-gun

That’s good enough for me.

I sent him another donation just last night.

The intelligentsia and the effete elitists can stuff it.”

_________

Well said :-)


42 posted on 11/15/2011 6:17:34 AM PST by justsaynomore (http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

So NOW you pimping a smear by far Left wing propaganda group CREW?

CREW who has a long history of filing campaigning ethic accusations at Conservatives only to quietly drop them AFTER the election?

So just which side do you REALLY play for PF?


43 posted on 11/15/2011 6:18:24 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Genoa
He hasn’t been the most consistent conservative over the years...

Which is now what makes him unacceptable.

You don't get to pick and choose which issues he's going to go off the rails with.

44 posted on 11/15/2011 6:19:09 AM PST by papertyger (What has islam ever accomplished that treacherous, opportunistic, brutality couldn't do on its own?)
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To: reaganaut1

I’m sticking with Cain. My biggest issue is to straighten out our current economic woes so my children’s generation will not have to bear the consequences of my generation’s indulgence. In that regard, I think Cain would be the President most willing to serve the strongest dose of medicine that this country needs.


45 posted on 11/15/2011 6:19:50 AM PST by 07Jack
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To: ASA Vet
2 New Iowa Polls Show Cain In the Lead
46 posted on 11/15/2011 6:20:28 AM PST by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the constitution"-Obama official)
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To: reaganaut1
“But as the reality sets in, it's clear that Mr. Cain is barely more ready for the office he seeks than Sarah Palin (or Barack Obama) was four years ago.”

I see the son of a bitch just had to get a dig at Sarah Palin. At that point I tuned out. He seems to think the “professional” politicians have done a good job. Yeah. A good job of throwing down the shitter everything the founders and others fought and died for.
Screw him! Screw the Republicrat Establishment!

47 posted on 11/15/2011 6:20:32 AM PST by Tupelo ( 2012 TEA PARTYER but no longer a Republican)
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To: MNJohnnie

Ike isn’t really considered a good president by conservative standards. His SCOTUS appointments were a disaster. His foreign policy wasn’t much better. Robert Taft would have been a better choice.


48 posted on 11/15/2011 6:20:41 AM PST by Huck (I predict record low turnout for the GOP primaries.)
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To: reaganaut1
So I guess you are all in for re electing obummer. Well dang!!!
49 posted on 11/15/2011 6:20:55 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: CincyRichieRich

Excellent summation of reality. I totally agree with you.


50 posted on 11/15/2011 6:21:03 AM PST by A. Patriot (Have we lost our Republic? Do the majority of Americans care?)
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