Posted on 11/15/2011 6:21:13 AM PST by Kaslin
One point regarding Paterno that illustrates how a lot of people have developed strong opinions based on assumptions and not facts.
A child never reported any abuse to Paterno at least as far as we know. It was an adult who told Paterno he saw a child being abused. How to deal with a second-hand report from someone not the victim is not that cut and dry.
Otherwise, he makes great points.
I guess Sandusky was “born that way”...
Kaslin.... I think one point is missing. Personally, I have talked to my children when they were very young about “bad touching”. A parent can use age appropriate words to simply explain that people shouldn’t be touching their “private” parts. I believe this opens the door to communication between the parent and child and the child may then feel more comfortable talking to his/her parents over anything uncomfortable. Just a thought.
It worked for one group of perverts. So why not another group of perverts.
What kid is going to “report child abuse” to Paterno. Get real. The kids were (I hate this term) “groomed” and so discombobulated they didn’t and couldn’t protect themselves. No. Adults are supposed to protect children. You can’t blame the kids for not protecting themselves.
I can remember when my boys were little, one of them actually assumed the “bad guys” would announce their “badness”. which of course, they don’t. They pretend it’s all on the up and up.
Points #1 and #6 are to some degree in conflict, but all in all a good list.
I remember my uncle who was in charge of maintenance for a large chain hotel. He told us all that if we were ever in a hotel and thought there was a fire, to get an outside line and call the local Fire Dept. directly. He said that if you reported it to the front desk they would just send he or another maintenance guy up to handle it to try and keep things quiet. And often that delay could be deadly.
Organizations always circle the wagons to protect themselves.
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That’s right. And you have to say to your kid, “If anyone ever tells you not to tell me, you HAVE to tell me immediately.”
And if anyone touches you on any part that your swimming suit covers, YOU HAVE TO TELL ME.
And then, you don’t let your kids be alone with any men. Period. Yeah, yeah, I know there are twisted women out there, but they don’t have an appendage that wants to get stuck places it doesn’t belong.
Oh and another real simple rule that keeps things straight: NO SEX OUTSIDE OF MARRIAGE.
I agree, Yldstrk! I started talking with my kids about things like this when they were around three. I know a lot of people may think, “A three year old isn’t going to understand this” but he did. A few months after our initial talk, he was being examined by his pediatrician (I was right in the room). The doctor felt his lower abdomen and my son started to yell, “BAD TOUCH! BAD TOUCH!”. The pediatrician praised me and him for understanding this. As for “secrets”, I have always discouraged them. I don’t know how many times I knew what my birthday present or Christmas present would be... once someone said, “This is a secret, okay?”... they came home and told me immediately. I didn’t then negate the action at all. I thanked them for telling me and told them they did absolutely the right thing. As they mature, they can figure out one secret vs another... but not when they are little. IMHO.
Sandusky is alleged to have committed absolutely heinous acts, the discussion here is what can we do to ensure that we never, ever look the other way again?
Now let me save you the time of writing a response: Paterno, Paterno, Paterno, Paterno.....
The alarming question in my mind is, "How long before other Pedophiles discovered what Sandusky was doing with First Mile?" This foundation has been in existance since 1977. Now that we know how Sandusky treated it, we know that there were no internal safeguards.
How true, how true.
Almost everything that is wrong with society is based on a complete lack of respect for sexual intimacy.
This is a great article from a man who knows exactly what should happen to protect a boy.
The best advice is to be morally clear: the perp (no matter how much you might have loved and respected him) belongs in jail; the child is innocent. Keeping your emotions under control, reassuring the boy he is beleived and protected is good. You don’t want to traumatize with the the state you are going to kill the perp even though you may want to.
And the advice to go straight to the police and to get counselors for the boy is great advice as well rather than confronting the perp and the organization is great instruction for parents and even witnesses.
A school teacher who sees a coach molesting a child should call the police before even going to the school administration because the child is at such a disadvantage and needs law enforcement professionals to deal with the problem without everyone being tainted by a CYA, perp loving school administration.
There is no guarentee the school’s leaders are morally clear at all on the subject of homosexual men raping boys; especially teenage boys. They have mostly permitted adult child homosexual clubs in their schools and that right there shows they are a moral and physical danger to boys opening them to the sexual manipulation of grooming in order to please the demands of perverted adults who even want to be in man/boy sex clubs.
Over here. This is a good article for men who protect boys.
¨Coach¨, eh?
Truly disgusting.
Call and email EVERYBODY, and let them all know who else was notified.
This way, from the get-go, all parties know that everything is “on the record” and no coverup is possible.
I agree, SaraJohnson. As parents and grandparents... we simply have to educate ourselves. To me, it isn’t any different than when we would read books about taking care of babies. It is simply an education that we can’t afford to miss. IMHO.
As I posted earlier:
I’m confused by all of this
The man who saw the child being raped should have beaten the crap out of the rapist and rescued the child.
When Paterno found out he should have informed the police and then gone to the hospital and beaten the crap out of the rapist.
As soon as the he got out of the hospital, the child’s male family members should have beaten the crap out of the rapist.
When no one else wanted to beat the crap out of the rapist, he should have been convicted and imprisoned where daily other prisoners would beat the crap out of him.
My view of the reactions to this disgusting crime is a severe lack of testosterone
Here's a funny story. My wife was spec ed teacher. One 2nd grader started missing school. Got back to the school the father was using his son to deliver drugs on his bike, why the boy was missing so much school. Wife called the local social services agency like she was advised. They claimed they couldn't do anything, low priority, that sort of thing. Then she called the local police dept. They parked out in front of the dad's house. Finally, dad came out to see what the problem was and cops told him they weren't leaving until his kid was back in school, ha ha. Kid never missed anymore school that year.
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