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On immigration, Marco Rubio urges the right to tone it down
TB.com ^ | 11.15.2011 | Alex Leary

Posted on 11/15/2011 8:35:38 AM PST by wolfcreek

WASHINGTON — With growing signs that Hispanic voters are turned off to GOP positions on immigration, Sen. Marco Rubio is trying to use his national profile to deliver a message to his party: Tone it down.

"The Republican Party should not be labeled as the anti-illegal immigration party. Republicans need to be the pro-legal immigration party," the Florida lawmaker said Monday on Fox News.

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To: umgud

“If we don’t give them amnesty, we will lose the Hispanic vote. /s”

How can you lose something that you never had in the first place?


51 posted on 11/15/2011 9:34:11 AM PST by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: momtothree

One that sticks with me is a 14 year old Kalamazoo Michigan boy who was walking to his bus stop when he was struck and dragged by an illegal fleeing police in a stolen car.

It didn’t get a lot of media play because it happened within 48 hours of 4 children being killed by an illegal in Minnesota which did make national news.


52 posted on 11/15/2011 9:37:32 AM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: wolfcreek
Emphasis should be on securing the border, first

Why? If someone breaks into my house, my first step isn't to go deadbolt the front door.

53 posted on 11/15/2011 9:39:39 AM PST by tnlibertarian (Things are so bad now, Kenyans are saying Obama was born in the USA.)
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54 posted on 11/15/2011 9:40:39 AM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: tnlibertarian

Yes, but, you will fix the window or door to prevent the next break-in.


55 posted on 11/15/2011 9:41:40 AM PST by wolfcreek (Perry to Obama: Adios, MOFO!)
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To: wolfcreek

This is total BS. Besides, I have seen polls where majority of latinos opposes illegal immigration so the idea that latinos are pro-illegal is likely not true.

If large part of majority would think that murdering annoying neigbor is ok, this does not mean that GOP should embrace it. Instead, it means GOP should educate and argue why it is bad.

Likewise for illegal immigration. GOP should explain clearly why it is bad and explain the true cost (financial cost and daily murders and loss of life due to DWIs)


56 posted on 11/15/2011 9:43:27 AM PST by heiss (heartless)
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To: wolfcreek

“The Republican Party should not be labeled as the anti-illegal immigration party.”

No, genius, Republicans would never want to be known as people who want to enforce our laws.

This guy is clearly not ready for prime time.

I had heard when he was in the Florida House he did what he could to sidetrack immigration legislation. I thought having won a Senate seat he would try to get more in tune with the rest of the country. I guess he just doesn’t have a “heart” for non-hispanics who favor the rule of law and lower immigration levels.

If guys like this and Ricardo Perry are the future of the Republican Party, it’s toast as far as I’m concerned. They’ll just have to replace my vote with an illegal’s.


57 posted on 11/15/2011 9:43:51 AM PST by SharpRightTurn ( White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: wolfcreek
Yes, but, you will fix the window or door to prevent the next break-in.

After I get rid of the guys currently stealing my TV. Better yet, make sure that the bad guys realize there isn't any way they are going to be getting any TVs or computers from this house, and the door can remain wide open while the bad guys walk out, seeing no loot to steal. I'm all about securing the borders, but saying, "secure the borders first" is D.C. speak for "ignore the folks that are here illegally."

58 posted on 11/15/2011 9:49:37 AM PST by tnlibertarian (Things are so bad now, Kenyans are saying Obama was born in the USA.)
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To: heiss
This is total BS. Besides, I have seen polls where majority of latinos opposes illegal immigration so the idea that latinos are pro-illegal is likely not true.

Yeah there are lots of 2nd, 3rd, and even 4th generation American hispanics here in southeastern Michigan. One of them that I used to work with was downright ruthless when it came to illegals. The company we worked for fired him for calling the INS from the phone there in the shop.
59 posted on 11/15/2011 9:50:27 AM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: wolfcreek

Marco is stick on stupid, like McCain and Perry.


60 posted on 11/15/2011 9:50:29 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: GraceG

“I Wish the MSM would learn the DIFFERENCE between LEGAL and ILLEGAL immigration and how Conservatives feel about it.

Conservative Position:

PRO LEGAL IMMIGRATION
ANTI ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION

Inastead the MSM paints Conservatives as being “ANTI IMMIGRATION” and makes no effort to difrentiate. They do this because it furthers their Liberal craptastic agenda.”

I am as conservative as anyone on this board, but if by “legal immigration” you are talking about the 1.5 million ner’-do-well, welfare class currently being allowed into the country annually, count me out. In that case, I am ANTI LEGAL IMMIGRATION.

I’m on-board with letting in limited numbers of people we truly need in this country (inventors, scientists, etc.), but not the masses of third-world semi-literates now being imported.

And I think a lot of other conservatives agree with this.


61 posted on 11/15/2011 9:51:35 AM PST by SharpRightTurn ( White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: SharpRightTurn

[ I am as conservative as anyone on this board, but if by “legal immigration” you are talking about the 1.5 million ner’-do-well, welfare class currently being allowed into the country annually, count me out. In that case, I am ANTI LEGAL IMMIGRATION.

I’m on-board with letting in limited numbers of people we truly need in this country (inventors, scientists, etc.), but not the masses of third-world semi-literates now being imported.

And I think a lot of other conservatives agree with this. ]

Fix Illegal Immigration first then we can start to fix the issue with welfare immigrants. :)

But I agree with you, there should be standards for who we allow inot the country, I mean other countries have standards, why can’t we be more like Japan. We don’t wanna be like Europe.


62 posted on 11/15/2011 9:57:58 AM PST by GraceG
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To: org.whodat
Rubio has hide his pro illegal position until now.

Yep. He said something when he first came on the scene that clearly indicated that he is 100% for illegal immigration.

He sounds conservative, but if he was President he would be 100% pro-Amnesty. This guy speaks a good game but he has ZERO understanding of the evils of illegal immigration.

63 posted on 11/15/2011 10:14:40 AM PST by sand88
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To: wolfcreek

Well I am an anti-illegal alien voter. Who the hell do they think they are? We have a system for gaining citizenship that has been inexistance for generations and has been followed by millions. They can come legally or go to hell. They don’t even apply for citizenship. If they go through the process legally, I don’t mind at all them coming as long as they learn English and contribute good for our society. But if they want to come illegally to wave Mexican flags, commit crimes, and never learn the language, like I said, to hell with them. They are criminals. If they want to live off the government handouts, I have not one bit of sympathy. Kick them out. Illegal aliens have no allegiance to this country. They never took the oath of citizenship. The phrase illegal alien should actually be “criminal alien” because their first act on coming to the US is to break the law and become criminals simply because they avoid the legal immigration system. As soon as they step foot in this country they are criminals.


64 posted on 11/15/2011 10:19:29 AM PST by lwoodham (Time is what keeps everything from happening all at once.)
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To: wolfcreek

Rubio is right. He’s in favor of a comprehensive overhaul, wbicbis what is needed. But instead we have nitwit candidates with no ideas of their own except rabble rousing who suggest electrifying the border fence and putting up a sign in Spanish.if I were Hispanic I wouldn’t even dream of voting GOP after hearing a stupid remark like that.


65 posted on 11/15/2011 10:31:51 AM PST by livius
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To: wolfcreek

I guess he doesn’t think that the more than one million new, legal permanent residents the U.S. allows each year, far more than anywhere else in the world, is enough.


66 posted on 11/15/2011 10:32:23 AM PST by Prokopton
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To: livius
He’s in favor of a comprehensive overhaul, wbicbis what is needed.

"Comprehensive overhaul=amnesty for those who have broken our laws. Not needed, now, in the past, or in the future...

the infowarrior

67 posted on 11/15/2011 10:43:25 AM PST by infowarrior
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To: GraceG

“there should be standards for who we allow inot the country, I mean other countries have standards, why can’t we be more like Japan. We don’t wanna be like Europe.”

I agree.


68 posted on 11/15/2011 11:03:16 AM PST by SharpRightTurn ( White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: cripplecreek

It seems like every day, we read something about someone being raped or killed. Day after day after day. I’m just so tired of it. It doesn’t seem like any politician, Republican or Democrat, wants to step up and do the right thing for the Country. Each party wants to cater to a group of ILLEGAL citizens in order to get their vote.


69 posted on 11/15/2011 11:37:26 AM PST by momtothree
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To: wolfcreek
With growing signs that Hispanic voters are turned off to GOP positions on immigration, Sen. Marco Rubio is trying to use his national profile to deliver a message to his party: Tone it down.

No. Maybe instead you and the other Republicans should try considering obeying the law of the land and get on board with causing those not in this country legally to leave one way or the other.

I profess that I don't know a whole lot about this Marco Rubio character out of Florida but saying that concerned and outraged Americans should just "tone it down" to help elct RINO Republicans is the best way to get on my bad side in a heartbeat just as Perry did with his heartless comment and attitude. And I don't forget easily Marco.

70 posted on 11/15/2011 12:07:40 PM PST by Ron H.
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To: SoConPubbie
And that, and that alone is why Rick Perry will never be President.

Can I get an Amen, brother?!

71 posted on 11/15/2011 12:12:15 PM PST by Ron H.
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To: Ron H.

Amen Bro!


72 posted on 11/15/2011 12:35:04 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: cripplecreek

Only if your state, county, city or precinct allows their vote to count.

Wrong. Congressional districts are a direct result of census counts. No voting necessary.

> Really good point - with illegals counted in the census, the votes of legal voters in that district count for more. What do you think the “legal” voters’ sympathies will be, if they have already created a culture that attracts “illegal” immigrants (like sanctuary cities)?


73 posted on 11/15/2011 12:49:26 PM PST by Tandem (What ever happened to personal responsibility & self-reliance?)
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To: Tandem

I believe Candice Miller was the first to bring up some legislation regarding illegals, the census, and congressional apportionment several years ago. It had considerable support but was killed.

Personally I think they do need to be counted to get an accurate idea of how many are here but they need to be excluded from the count when it comes to congressional apportionment.


74 posted on 11/15/2011 1:01:23 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: indylindy

Sorry, Indylindy! I did one of my “eyes rolled back in my head” moments. I posted my rant to you and then went and took a walk to clear my head. LOL!!


75 posted on 11/15/2011 1:41:19 PM PST by momtothree
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To: wolfcreek

Rubio is a La Raza hack born to foreign nationals.


76 posted on 12/11/2011 9:00:51 PM PST by Godebert
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To: wolfcreek
"The Republican Party should not be labeled as the anti-illegal immigration party..."

Uh.. Okay.
Clearly, Rubio wants OFF the VP list.

77 posted on 12/11/2011 9:07:58 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: wolfcreek
Yes, but, you will fix the window or door to prevent the next break-in.

Well, sure... AFTER the scumbag who already broke in is ejected.

78 posted on 12/11/2011 9:15:53 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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