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Reid:Businesses,Economists Debunk Republican Myth Of Job-Killing Regulations
United States Senate Democrats ^ | 11/15/11 | Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid

Posted on 11/15/2011 9:08:47 AM PST by mdittmar

Republican Economist Says GOP Spreads the Falsehood Because It Has No Plan to Create Jobs

Washington, D.C. – Nevada Senator Harry Reid made the following remarks today on the Senate floor regarding the Republican-propagated myth of “job-killing regulations.” Below are his remarks as prepared for delivery:

It’s impossible to open a newspaper or watch cable news these days without hearing my Republican colleagues talk about the evils of “job-killing regulations.”

Each day they arrive on the Senate floor to rail against the safeguards that keep our water clean, our air fresh and our mines safe.

According to the GOP, those safeguards are actually the source of all this nation’s economic woes – these horrible, time consuming government regulations that hinder the economic progress of America.

The Republicans would have you believe that the common-sense rules that check the greed of Wall Street banks, keep huge corporations honest and stop Big Oil’s unnecessary risk taking are also causing small businesses great harm.

Indeed, that would be a terrible thing – that is, if it were true.

While it’s proper to guard against and remove onerous regulations, my Republican friends have yet to produce a single shred of evidence that the regulations they hate so much do the broad economic harms they claim. That’s because there is none.

Conversely, there’s plenty of evidence to prove those regulations save lives, prevent asthma attacks and ensure Mom and Pops face a fair fight against multinational corporations and moneyed interest groups.

And there’s plenty of evidence to prove that disasters like the BP oil spill and the financial crisis of 2008 could have been prevented by stronger government watchdogs.

But Republicans aren’t relying on evidence as they propagate the myth of the job-killing regulation. They’re relying on repetition.

Bruce Bartlett, an advisor to President Ronald Reagan and a Treasury official under President George H.W. Bush, is a trusted, conservative voice on economics. He offered these strong words  on the regulation monster under Big Business’ bed:

“No hard evidence is offered for this claim; it is simply asserted as self-evident and repeated endlessly throughout the conservative echo chamber… In my opinion, regulatory uncertainty is a canard invented by Republicans that allows them to use current economic problems to pursue an agenda supported by the business community year in and year out. In other words, it is a simple case of political opportunism, not a serious effort to deal with high unemployment.”

But why use regulations proven to protect the health of every man, woman and child in this nation as a scapegoat? What are the origins of the myth?

I believe – as Bartlett does – that Republicans are attacking regulation because they don’t have a plan to create jobs and turn our economy around.

While Democrats have been pushing time-tested remedies for a flagging economy, such as infrastructure investments or middle-class tax cuts, our Republican colleagues have been peddling a cure-all tonic of deregulation.

Bartlett says, “People are increasingly concerned about unemployment, but Republicans have nothing to offer them.”

They’ve offered up the specter of overreaching government regulation to distract from the fact that they haven’t offered a single idea for how to put America back to work.

And they use the argument to justify rolling back everything from clear air and water safeguards to Wall Street and health insurance industry reforms.

What’s more, they’ve spread the tall tale that removing these regulations and letting Big Business do exactly as it pleases will not only prevent job losses, but actually create new jobs.

Bartlett called that logical leap “nonsense.”

“It’s just made up,” he said. So, let’s talk fact, not fiction.

According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, which asks executives why they downsized, only a tiny fraction of layoffs have anything at all to do with tighter regulation.

Last year, only three tenths of one percent of people who lost their jobs were let go principally because of government regulation or intervention. On the other hand, a quarter of them were laid off because of lack of business.

And in a recent survey by the Small Business Majority, only 13% of small business owners cited regulation as their biggest concern. Half said economic uncertainty was their greatest challenge.

That’s why Democrats have been offering real solutions to our jobs crisis and policies that help small firms hire, grow and thrive again.

The truth is we have enough to worry about in these tough economic times.

We can’t allow the myth to distract us from the very real crisis of high unemployment facing this nation.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; News/Current Events
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Well,if Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid says it?
1 posted on 11/15/2011 9:08:48 AM PST by mdittmar
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To: mdittmar

I don’t see why give dem homepage rants publicity


2 posted on 11/15/2011 9:10:56 AM PST by Christian Engineer Mass (25ish Cambridge MA grad student. Many conservative Christians my age out there? __ Click my name)
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To: mdittmar
We can’t allow the myth truth to distract us from the very real crisis cause of high unemployment facing this nation.
3 posted on 11/15/2011 9:12:07 AM PST by Jagdgewehr (It will take blood.)
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To: Christian Engineer Mass

Ah,maybe cause they control the Senate.


4 posted on 11/15/2011 9:13:10 AM PST by mdittmar (i)
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To: mdittmar

Harding figured it out in 1920..

Harding cut the government’s budget nearly in HALF between 1920 and 1922. The rest of Harding’s approach was equally laissez-faire. Tax rates were slashed for all income groups. The national debt was reduced by one-third. The Federal Reserve’s activity, moreover, was hardly noticeable. As one economic historian puts it, “Despite the severity of the contraction, the Fed did not move to use its powers to turn the money supply around and fight the contraction.” 2 By the late summer of 1921, signs of recovery were already visible. The following year, unemployment was back down to 6.7 percent and was only 2.4 percent by 1923.

http://www.firstprinciplesjournal.com/articles.aspx?article=1319&loc=r

BTW..the Feds know there are WAY more of them than necessary..which is why they fight with We The People over the border..they think more bodies in the country will provide them more cover.


5 posted on 11/15/2011 9:14:26 AM PST by mo
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To: mdittmar

a more accurate headline: “Reid beieves that red tape is good for business.”


6 posted on 11/15/2011 9:15:32 AM PST by RC one (Voting isn't a simple act of civic duty anymore, it's a complex act of civil war.)
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To: mdittmar

Regulations don’t kill jobs. Why right here in Boston a Ground Breaking was done for a 12 story building after only SEVEN YEARS of Red tape.


7 posted on 11/15/2011 9:15:48 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: mdittmar

And Harry’s real solutions have been working so well for the last 3 years.

Democrats real solutions are to throw money away so fast no tax in the world could replace it.

But what really pisses me off is that Senate Republicans will sit in their seats and listen to this s**t and say nothing in response.

Harry claims the Republicans are complaining about regulations. Who are they complaining to? I haven’t heard a word out of Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell in the last 6 months, in fact I had to look up who he was because he says nothing and does nothing.

We no longer have a two party system, We have Democrats and RINO stooges./


8 posted on 11/15/2011 9:15:52 AM PST by Venturer
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To: mdittmar

There are thousands and thousands of first hand eyewitness accounts of business owners who were run out of business by massive regulations. What better evidence can one ask for?


9 posted on 11/15/2011 9:16:01 AM PST by circlecity
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Stop Goofing Off And Donate


Click The Pic

10 posted on 11/15/2011 9:16:52 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: mdittmar

Mr Reid you are a lying sack of crap.
Worse you think the American people to be stupid sheep.
Anyone that has tried to run a small business in America or know anyone that has run a small business KNOWS for a fact that Government regulations, rules, restrictions, red tape and taxes can strangle many small businesses and certainly makes growth very difficult. And your political party has been behind the vast majority of job stunting government interference. So STFU your time has passed.....


11 posted on 11/15/2011 9:19:25 AM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: mdittmar

You mean the same businesses and economists that DIDN’T see the housing bubble burst coming?? Those economists??

ahahhaahahhahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The same ones trying to tell us there is no inflation?????

bunch of d@mn liars.


12 posted on 11/15/2011 9:19:47 AM PST by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: mdittmar
Bruce Bartlett went rogue on conservatives a long time ago and is no longer a "trusted, conservative voice on economics."

For some unknown reason, the new Bruce Bartlett is always there to help when the democrats need an out. I'll take the word of successful businessman Steve Wynn (a democrat), and all those other Fortune 500 CEO's who have publicly declared that Obama's regulations have created an environment of uncertainty that is killing the economy. Unless Bartlett can show us where he's created a company worth billions, and that employees thousands, he's just another economist looking for attention. Bashing Republicans to the liberal media is a proven method for attracting the attention this man so desperately needs.

13 posted on 11/15/2011 9:20:42 AM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: mdittmar

Yu are posting from a crackpot website.


14 posted on 11/15/2011 9:22:31 AM PST by San Jacinto
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To: mdittmar

Who cares. Their lying rants should be suppressed as far as possible.


15 posted on 11/15/2011 9:23:28 AM PST by Christian Engineer Mass (25ish Cambridge MA grad student. Many conservative Christians my age out there? __ Click my name)
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To: mdittmar
I agree with a lot of what he is saying.

It's not that the regulations don't have a cost or don't hurt our competitiveness against countries that don't care if their people are killed by industry. It's that you can remove all of the regulations and business taxes and you still aren't going to compete with the likes of China that basically has slave labor wages and government owns the businesses. The difference in wage labor dwarfs everything.

I believe – as Bartlett does – that Republicans are attacking regulation because they don’t have a plan to create jobs and turn our economy around.

This is exactly right!

While Democrats have been pushing time-tested remedies for a flagging economy, such as infrastructure investments or middle-class tax cuts, our Republican colleagues have been peddling a cure-all tonic of deregulation.

This is mostly a lie.

The democrats are pushing time-tested remedies. But they substitute political graft and cronyism for infrastructure projects. What they say and what they do are two different things.

'Rats have been pushing tax increases not tax cuts.

16 posted on 11/15/2011 9:24:24 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: Mase
Barlett is not only a traitor, but an idiot.

Bruce Bartlett

17 posted on 11/15/2011 9:29:13 AM PST by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Rempublicam)
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To: mdittmar

The simple fact that not one republican senator has ever slapped the crap out of this little slimy nerd is proof they’re all in this together at our expense.


18 posted on 11/15/2011 9:29:37 AM PST by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a second party)
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To: mdittmar
Republicans are attacking regulation because they don’t have a plan to create jobs

I do not want the GOP to create jobs. I do not want the Dems to create jobs. I do not want congress, or my governor or any government agency to create jobs. It is not their job to create jobs. If it was their job to create jobs then we should be voting in CEO's and cutting profit sharing deals with them. I am voting for legislators not CEO'S.

I want our government to establish an environment so we can compete internationally and be as productive as possible with the least amount of cost. If our taxes need to be lowered to compete then they should be lowered if the tax rates do not affect us competitively then they should be left alone. Likewise, if we have regulations that are cost effective and protect losses of life and property then by all means we should leave those alone. However, if we have regulations which hinder productivity and jobs to protect us from something inconsequential or from something the market will achieve if left alone then these should be eliminated.

For Reid to assume that all regulations are helpful is absurd. Even ones which were good and helpful may have a shelf life.

19 posted on 11/15/2011 9:30:59 AM PST by Raycpa
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To: DannyTN

I believe – as Bartlett does – that Republicans are attacking regulation because they don’t have a plan to create jobs and turn our economy around.

This is exactly right!


I for one DON’T WANT THEM TO HAVE A PLAN. Just give us more freedom, the american people have the plans................


20 posted on 11/15/2011 9:33:01 AM PST by PeterPrinciple ( getting closer to the truth.................)
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To: DannyTN
Ever Listen to Steve Wynn.

He called Harry Reid, a friend for 40 years over Obama Care and other regulations and Harry hung up on him.

Steve said it is easier to do business in Macau and he can treat his employees better there than the US.

21 posted on 11/15/2011 9:33:02 AM PST by scooby321
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To: DannyTN
I believe – as Bartlett does – that Republicans are attacking regulation because they don’t have a plan to create jobs and turn our economy around.

This is exactly right!

Wrong. Their "plan" is to reduce the regulatory burden and tax rates to permit companies to expand and grow. That will create new jobs. If you choose to call that "not a plan," fine -- we need no other "plan."

22 posted on 11/15/2011 9:37:03 AM PST by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Rempublicam)
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To: mdittmar
Reid cites supporting data from the "Small Business Majority".

Guess who they are closely allied with? The Center for American Progress.

23 posted on 11/15/2011 9:37:25 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: andy58-in-nh

What a surprise.


24 posted on 11/15/2011 9:41:26 AM PST by mdittmar (i)
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To: SECURE AMERICA
“Worse you think the American people to be stupid sheep.”

I believe Reid would be correct in that assessment. “The people” shape the United States government, not politicians.

Every two years “the people” have the ability to shape the Federal Government into their own likeness. Some are fooled, but that is their own fault. Unfortunately most do not realize they are being fooled and again, this is their own darn fault; especially in this day and age of massive search engines as well as free information that can easily be gathered.

25 posted on 11/15/2011 9:41:31 AM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians)
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To: mdittmar

http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/files/2009/08/6274.jpg

In 2006, he published Impostor: How George W. Bush Bankrupted America and Betrayed the Reagan Legacy (ISBN 0-385-51827-7), which is critical of the Bush Administration’s economic policies as departing from traditional conservative principles. He compared the second Bush to Richard M. Nixon as “two superficially conservative presidents who enacted liberal programs to buy votes for reelection.”

In Bartlett’s latest book, The New American Economy: The Failure of Reaganomics and a New Way Forward, he embraces Keynesian ideas, stating that while supply-side economics was appropriate for the 1970s and 1980s, supply side arguments do not fit contemporary conditions.

During an interview on CNN on August 19, 2011 Bartlett stated that presidential candidate Rick Perry “is an idiot, and I don’t think anybody would disagree with that.” The comment was in reference to Perry’s earlier assertion that Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke’s actions would be “almost treasonous” if the Fed were to print more money before the election to stimulate the econonmy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Bartlett


26 posted on 11/15/2011 9:46:12 AM PST by kcvl
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To: mdittmar

OK republicans, take him up on his challenge. Quote chapter and verse of the regulations that delay progress by eating up time and hinder and stop progress. Start maybe with that oil pipeline up north. Detail the costs involved and jobs lost. Enter it in the Congressional record and then another one every day that Congress is in session. Call his bluff and show what a liar he is - or are you too busy with your insider stock trading?


27 posted on 11/15/2011 9:47:34 AM PST by I am Richard Brandon
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28 posted on 11/15/2011 9:53:21 AM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: mdittmar
I know: shocking isn't it? The President of SBM happens to be a Democrat partisan from San Francisco who has partnered with other "Progressive" organizations (including ACORN) in support of ObamaCare, in order to help create a false impression that small businesses favor a government takeover of health care and support Federal business regulations.

Democrats are good at this. Note that Reid also cites Bruce Bartlett as a "conservative" source, when he hasn't been any such thing for a long time (having gone through an Arianna Huffington-like conversion to the Dark Side).

29 posted on 11/15/2011 9:54:35 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: mdittmar

Harry the shameful is right in a left handed way; with out the byzantine regulatory systems we have in place today, millions of lawyers and tax accountants would be out of work.


30 posted on 11/15/2011 9:55:04 AM PST by conservonator (God between us and the devil!)
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To: mdittmar

Didn’t Senator Rubio recently give a speech about not finding the businessmen who wants MORE regulations so he can begin hiring..


31 posted on 11/15/2011 10:01:46 AM PST by BerniesFriend (Sarah Palin-"Lord knows she's attractive" says bitter Andrea Mitchell and the rest of the MSM)
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To: Cincinatus
"Wrong. Their "plan" is to reduce the regulatory burden and tax rates to permit companies to expand and grow. That will create new jobs. If you choose to call that "not a plan," fine -- we need no other "plan."

It's a plan, but completely insufficient to create jobs. To create jobs, you're going to have to reverse some of the offshoring that we have done.

DannyTN's Economic Plan


There are 5 major inputs into any economy:
32 posted on 11/15/2011 10:08:59 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: mdittmar

It’s no wonder the government is broke. I went to a federal biulding today, and had to go through two checkpoints with guards. The federal employee I dealt with was behind bullet-proof glass. I live in what is considered by most to be a small town. What’s it cost to hire all these cousins and brothers onto the federal payroll across the nation? Here’s an idea, get rid of all the security guards. And spare me the “what-if” stories about federal employees getting gunned down at work. They could get hit by a car on the way to work. Maybe they should all ride in armored buses.


33 posted on 11/15/2011 10:28:41 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: mdittmar
What’s more, they’ve spread the tall tale that removing these regulations and letting Big Business do exactly as it pleases will not only prevent job losses, but actually create new jobs.

We've seen how well adding regulations and letting Big Government do exactly as it pleases has prevented job losses and actually created new jobs. LOL!

34 posted on 11/15/2011 10:36:34 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: DannyTN

We could use a hard drive factory or two as well!

http://www.infoworld.com/t/computer-hardware/hard-drive-prices-skyrocket-177515


35 posted on 11/15/2011 10:37:54 AM PST by Soothesayer9
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To: mdittmar

Hey Harry, how would you refute Kalifonia’s economic dilemma that is clearly a result of OVER regulation to placate state unionism and the green crowd? Somebody needs to throw water on this putrid lying POS. Just my opinion.


36 posted on 11/15/2011 10:38:00 AM PST by drypowder
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To: blueunicorn6

Quite true. Ive often wondered what is the point of the bulletproof glass bit. If you really wanted to cap a guy, monitor him till he gets off of work, follow him home, ring the doorbell, bang. End of story.


37 posted on 11/15/2011 10:39:43 AM PST by Soothesayer9
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To: Mase

He has PCR disease.


38 posted on 11/15/2011 10:45:30 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Yeah, that's the guy I was trying to remember but couldn't. Paul Craig Roberts. What is it about these guys that causes them to lose their brains? Wasn't Bartlett pissed off at W for not being chosen for some top position? Maybe this is his payback.

Then again, maybe he just went crazy like PCR.

39 posted on 11/15/2011 10:58:20 AM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: mo

With a gold standard you cannot create the money illusion.


40 posted on 11/15/2011 11:38:51 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD
With a gold standard you cannot create the money illusion.

There is still fractional reserve banking under a gold standard, or were you thinking about something else?

41 posted on 11/15/2011 2:57:00 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Mase
What is it about these guys that causes them to lose their brains?

They receive "strange new respect".

42 posted on 11/15/2011 3:00:00 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

I’m talking about inflation. I don’t mind fractional reserve banking and actually think it benefits America, but only when banking is separated from the investment house. That is banking should be very a boring business.

The money illusion, as I was taught, is inflation. Printing money gives the appearance at first and in the short run that consumers have ‘more’ to spend. Eventually reality catches up to you and the pizza puff you bought for $.79 thirty years ago now costs $2.49 (those are actual prices).

There’s also the bond illusion which looks the same, but is simply future taxes wasted.


43 posted on 11/15/2011 3:41:44 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

It’s possible to have inflation under a gold standard.
It’s more likely we’d have deflation under a gold standard.
That would be much more damaging than inflation.


44 posted on 11/15/2011 3:47:49 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: mdittmar

This man is insane. Nevada citizens must be too.


45 posted on 11/15/2011 3:53:38 PM PST by Fledermaus (I'll vote for Mitt Romney when Hell freezes over. He's as bad or worse than Zero.)
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To: mdittmar

So I suppose all those regulations that make a specific business illegal, is not costing us jobs. (ex - Online poker).


46 posted on 11/15/2011 9:12:04 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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