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"Germany is dominating Europe" NIgel Farage in the EU parliament
YouTube ^ | 16 November 2011 | N Farage

Posted on 11/16/2011 12:43:59 PM PST by ScaniaBoy

In Europe things are getting uglier and uglier. The economy is in a free fall and the EU will try to use the crisis for yet another power grab, reducing our national democracies to nought. In the toy parliament, the democratic fig leaf of the European Union, only one man is speaking for the peoples: Nigel Farage.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Germany; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: eu; euro; europeanunion; euroskeptic; euroskepticism; euroskeptics; farage; gollum; nigelfarage; vanrompuy

1 posted on 11/16/2011 12:44:05 PM PST by ScaniaBoy
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To: ScaniaBoy
The video: "Germany is dominating Europe"
2 posted on 11/16/2011 12:46:03 PM PST by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: ScaniaBoy

So, they should pay for it, but not dominate it? Europe some charity? And when did Germany become a not for profit?


3 posted on 11/16/2011 12:48:51 PM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: PzLdr

So, they should pay for it, but not dominate it?
They didn't "pay for it". Stop listening to their propaganda. And get a sense of history.
4 posted on 11/16/2011 12:55:51 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: PzLdr

Who said they SHOULD pay?

The best solution for everybody would be for Germany, maybe in conjuntion with some other countries like Finland, Austria, the Netherlands to leave the Eurozone. But understand this; Germany cannot be in a currency union and benefit hugely from the currency pegs and at the same time refuse to pay for it. Can’t have your cake and eat it to.


5 posted on 11/16/2011 12:57:18 PM PST by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: Olog-hai

Uh, they bankroll the EU.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8036097.stm


6 posted on 11/16/2011 1:00:11 PM PST by socalgop
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To: ScaniaBoy

Maybe it’s ‘translation difficulties’, but I’ve detected an increasingly imperious tone - and sometimes a hint of ‘veiled threat’ - in Merkel’s utterances over the past couple of months....

It has me looking for Germany to execute a naked power grab over the EU in the near-to-intermediate future....

Question - would that be a good thing, or a bad thing??


7 posted on 11/16/2011 1:00:46 PM PST by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: Uncle Ike

Judging by Germany’s two previous attempts to execute a naked power grab in Europe, I’d say it’s a bad thing.


8 posted on 11/16/2011 1:03:33 PM PST by OB1kNOb (The prudent see danger and take refuge, but the simple keep going and pay the penalty. - Prov 22:3)
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To: socalgop

Uh, they bankroll the EU
No, every member state of the EU does no matter whether in the euro currency or not, including Britain. The ECB manipulates interest rates in Germany's favor. The BBC will publish pro-German and anti-British propaganda nowadays, so be careful what articles you use out of them.
9 posted on 11/16/2011 1:06:08 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Uncle Ike

It has me looking for Germany to execute a naked power grab over the EU in the near-to-intermediate future....

Question - would that be a good thing, or a bad thing??
Bad thing. The EU is Germany's baby to begin with, and they designed it just like the USSR for the purpose of doing away with accountability.
10 posted on 11/16/2011 1:07:22 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: ScaniaBoy

God bless nigel farage. The best part of any of his wondeful speeches is watching the reactions of the “men” he is gelding in public. He hates belgians so badly lol


11 posted on 11/16/2011 1:08:13 PM PST by SpringtoLiberty (Liberty is on the march!)
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To: socalgop

They bankroll the EU with what? Borrowed money? Get your head out of the sand. Germany is a shithole just like the rest of them. Why are they so insistant of perserving the EU if everyone else is such a drag on them?


12 posted on 11/16/2011 1:12:10 PM PST by wolfman23601
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To: Olog-hai
No, every member state of the EU does no matter whether in the euro currency or not, including Britain.
No, Germany has always paid more than anybody else in the EU, even if you control for population.
13 posted on 11/16/2011 1:21:40 PM PST by cartan
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14 posted on 11/16/2011 1:22:31 PM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: Uncle Ike

“Question - would that be a good thing, or a bad thing??”

The real question is would Europe be better off in the current regime or under, say, Emperor Charles V or another Habsburg?

I’d go with the Emperor.


15 posted on 11/16/2011 1:33:36 PM PST by wolfman23601
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To: ScaniaBoy

Why, why, if those Germans don’t stop dominating us we’ll stop accepting their money. Yes! That’s right. We will balance our budgets and live within our means. That’ll show ‘em.


16 posted on 11/16/2011 1:48:09 PM PST by Redmen4ever
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To: wolfman23601; Uncle Ike
“Question - would that be a good thing, or a bad thing??”

The real question is would Europe be better off in the current regime or under, say, Emperor Charles V or another Habsburg?

I’d go with the Emperor.

No thank you. No emperor. I come from a country that fought and beat the Habsburgs. Don't think it would be a good idea for anyone to try to impose that regime on us. The best thing would be for the EU to break up in a reasonably ordered fashion, and then those countries that were interested could join the free trade organization EFTA.

Do I believe that is the way things will play out? No, I fear that our politicians will lean more towards maintaining the staus quo, and in the worst case they will try to go for another Habsburg empire. That would cause bloodshed and mayhem. The EU may have been conceived as a peace project (not really, but let's pretend), but it risks being the cause of yet another major European conflagration.

For once I hope I'll be proven wrong.

17 posted on 11/16/2011 1:49:43 PM PST by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: Redmen4ever

When does Germany have to start balancing their own budget? Why should Italy balance theior budget when Germany won’t, just because the ECB is rigged to keep Germany’s interest rates artificially low while it soaks every other country one by one? Eventually, Germany and the Euro technocrats are going to run out of everyone else’s money. Socialism always does.


18 posted on 11/16/2011 1:52:37 PM PST by wolfman23601
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To: cartan

Germany has always paid more than anybody else in the EU
. . . according to Germany.

But either way, how would you like it if a state in the USA that "paid more than anybody else" into the federal treasury started dictating to the other states and even started appointing the governors of those states with total disregard to the republican form of government? Is this how you want the USA to be run?
19 posted on 11/16/2011 1:53:39 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: ScaniaBoy

The difference is the Habsburgs tried to enrich their people so they could take some of it rather than the current regime that seeks to destroy their people so that they can tighten the screws of control. Obviously, government closest to the people is the best, but it was an either or comparison. I’d rather have a relatively benevolent dictatorship with a sense of nationalism than a destructive one. And England is about one or two more waves of Muslim immigration from being better off under the Tudors.


20 posted on 11/16/2011 1:57:08 PM PST by wolfman23601
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To: ScaniaBoy

In the interest of freedom, I demand that Germany leave the Eurozone.


21 posted on 11/16/2011 1:57:23 PM PST by LZ_Bayonet ( I AM THE TEA PARTY LEADER !)
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22 posted on 11/16/2011 1:58:40 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: ScaniaBoy

Churchill, is that you? Bravo


23 posted on 11/16/2011 2:02:39 PM PST by strongbow
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To: Redmen4ever

Very funny, but shows a complete lack of understanding of the situation in the Eurozone.

#1: It is not the nations, ie the tax payers that are being bailed out. It is the banks - not least the French and German banks - that are being saved.

#2: Germany has not handed over money to Greece, Ireland, Portugal or Italy. The three first named countries have received loans - at not so low interest rates.

#3: We can all agree that many countries in the Eurozone (and elsewhere in the EU) are not living within their means. However, ever since the start of the euro the PIIGS have not lived on German money, but on the German name. They have been able to borrow cheap money since the markets have lived under the misapprehension that Germany would bail them out. (And none of the politicians, neither in Germany nor elsewhere tried to warn the markets about the true state of affairs. Wink, wink.)

#4: The political pressure on the PIIGS (from Germany, France and Brussels) is not for them to leave the Eurozone, but to accept bail-out loans, stay in the euro and institute austerity programs that will make it virtually impossible for those countries ever to recover.


24 posted on 11/16/2011 2:03:55 PM PST by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: All
Ambrose explains it all: Latin showdown with Germany over ECB
25 posted on 11/16/2011 2:23:13 PM PST by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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I completely don’t understand... Yes, I do not know anything. I forgot that the PIGS aren’t democracies and, therefore, the people of those countries did not elect the government that have been deficit spending at 10 percent or more of GDP. For that matter, neither can this country be blamed. People who borrow money, either individually or through their government, are innocent waifs, the victims of the evil Germans whose deficit is only 2 percent of GDP. As for that traitor country of Portugal that crossed over from the PIGs to join the axis of Germany and the uberbanks earlier this year, well, sometimes you have to know who your enemies are. Same thing with the Spaniards who are set to join the Hun. Why did we fight WWI and WWII anyway? To let the Hun take over?


26 posted on 11/16/2011 2:57:39 PM PST by Redmen4ever
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To: wolfman23601

Germany’s deficit has been in the 2 to 3 percent range during the past several years. This kind of relatively small deficit is countenanced by the “convergence” rules of the Eurozone.


27 posted on 11/16/2011 2:59:33 PM PST by Redmen4ever
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