Skip to comments.Why I Support Newt Gingrich
Posted on 11/16/2011 7:20:50 PM PST by TBBT
I have been agnostic on the Republican primary so far, but the time for choosing has arrived.
For the reasons set forth below, I believe that the primaries will come down to Mitt Romney versus Newt Gingrich. As such, the choice is not between Newt Gingrich and some hypothetical more perfect conservative candidate, as Newts most vocal critics would have us believe.
Im supporting Newt Gingrich as the most conservative Republican who is electable and most qualified for the position of President.
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Nah, If I have to vote for a Rino. I am going to vote for Mitt the Mormon. Newt’s all over the place. At least Mitt has good hair.
“Faced with an ultimate choice between Newt and Mitt, we all pick Newt.”
I don’t. I want to win.
I think I will emulate Newt. If he will share some of the big bucks he got lobbying for Fannie and Freddie with me, then I will support him. We don’t need no stinkin’ principles.
Gad, the ol' RINO "he can win!" argument. They tried that against Reagan too.
Their major stockholders are another matter.
(2/3) Newt Gingrich: " Phoney War" - Full Speech http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkWFDlNNhh4&feature=related
(3/3) Newt Gingrich: "Phoney War" - Full Speech http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JT2Z-C5gQnQ&feature=related
Yep...Gingrich's endorsement of the individual mandate for healthcare was not a "youthful indiscretion". Nor was Newt feeding at the corrupt trough of Freddie Mac. How on Earth can we run against Dodd and Frank when our nominee was part of the same hypocrisy? We cannot. Newt is a sure loser.
I happen to agree.
One would hope so. Unfortunately, there are a variety of FReepers displaying ignorance and vile hatred towards all the candidates in one form or another.
In the case of this thread concerning Gingrich, they should do some research on his web site. Those who don't are lazy empty suits, content to scream the "BAGGAGE!" mantra.
Well said, and a fact that is routinely ignored during the overall discussion.
A primary reason that the Framers wanted such a minimal central government was so that it would be less likely to become corrupt or tyrannical regardless of which faction holds political power at any given moment in time.
This dudes weak argument for Newt is nothing to be convinced by? He picks and chooses instances of Newts Conservatism and totally misses the last ten years of Newts full on RINOism. Apparently he didn't read this gem that he wrote that would make one think Algore was the ghost writer.
Do your research. Ron Paul invented tea party on 12/16/07, the 2009 version is different, but not that different than the Ron Paul 12/16/07.
There is a lot of video of what looks a lot like the tea party on 12/16/07.
If you didn’t want to be affiliated with Ron Paul’s Tea Party, you could’ve picked a different name. But you didn’t. You picked Tea Party. And there’s all this footage of tea party events all over the place.
I’d like to see Rand Paul at Faneuil Hall on 12/16/11. The 4th Aniversary. “4 years ago I stood here an said this was going to be big” “this thing is big. this thing is really huge” and he was talking about what exactly? at the first tea party rally. Who was one of the first tea party senators elected.
Newt picked Dede.
Is it better to say
“Newt cheated on and divorced his first wife when she got sick.”
“Newt cheated on and divorced his second wife when she got sick.”
There won’t be a choice between Mitt and Newt, because the tea party won’t find either of those 2 acceptable. So, there will be a tea party candidate who is not Mitt or Newt.
His ability to keep oaths.
Nick...you are misrepresenting what Newt stated by using a sound bite... post the entire statement and let folks determine their own take on it.
In fact I’ll help you out and post it myself:
Newt...”I dont think right-wing social engineering is any more desirable than left-wing social engineering. I dont think imposing radical change from the right or the left is a very good way for a free society to operate. I think we need a national conversation to get to a better Medicare system with more choices for seniors.
Speaker Gingrich later clarified his comments and said that he would have voted for the Ryan Budget Plan had he still been in congress.
So is Newt...Newt admitted that sitting on a couch with Pelosi was the dumbest thing hes done in the last few years. The problem its caused him is that people thing hes now for Cap and Trade which is absolutely not true.
Here you are again relaying falsehoods against Newt.
So to correct these:
1. His daughter has already and previously stated Newt did not abandone his wife....Newt’s wife requested a divorce months before her cancer ordeal, also he not only visited her but he took his daughters many times to visit her. And further that it was an entire media spin about those visits with no truth to it whatsoever.
2. Gingrich is a conservative on many, many issues. Out of this entire field, he is a conservative fiscally and socially and believes in the VAST majority of the changes that us “Tea Partiers” want to have changed and is smart enough to bring some solutions. AND beat Obama in a debate.
Sorry truth but the Tea Party is already reaching out to Newt...just a couple as examples follow:
Billie Tucker, head of the First Coast Tea Party....
“He has not reached out to us, and we have reached out to him..... to give him an opportunity to meet with our tea party. said Tucker, whose group boasts 10,000 members.......
“He has shown himself to be the most well-informed on how politics works. .....And he has an ‘attitude’ — which we tend to like. Attitude means saying it like it is and not holding back.”
Jesse Phillips, on the steering committee for the Tea Party Network, a coalition of 70 tea groups around Florida
“I really like Newt. ... I think his experience, knowledge of the issues, consistently conservative stances and ability to debate and articulate conservatism is very appealing.”
Nope your wrong....better listen up!......
“Newt says that he told F@F that the housing market was a bubble that was about to burst..... He told them that they were making a mistake handing out loans to people who couldn’t afford them...... Newt says he told them what they were doing wrong and what they needed to fix it and he did get his consultancy fee for it. If all that’s true it’s a shame they didn’t listen to him...... Doesn’t matter what they paid him; it was good advice. Certainly better advice than what they’ve gotten from their own wildly overpaid executives. Certainly better advice than they’ve gotten from Obama..... The Fanny and Freddy stuff?... Newt has answered for the Fannie and Freddie stuff. ....(Rush Limbaugh)
It’s better not to repeat misleading information or carry the liberal/democrate talking points which they’re spinning...again. Even using liberal vocabulary should deter you from using their spin and tactics of character assissination.
So the facts are:
- Newt’s wife got sick months after she asked him for a divorce. He and his children visited her often...he did not abandon her as the media stated.
I will continually believe that minus true rhinos like Romney and McCain, the people that attack genuine conservatives are no friend to conservatism.
It’s folks that think their brand of conservatism will do anything put choke off any practical way to keep it alive. Conservatism is a culture and we’re only one or two judges and one or two terms away from being a minority of that. So in order to leave an impression to last a few generations, we have to control the courts.
Reagan appointed the judge that upheld Obama’s healthcare...so we can’t hope that every judge will be perfect, but we can be sure that we need to have someone trustworthy picking them. I trust Newt, Cain, Perry, et al (except Romney...and DEFINITELY not Obama!).
Except that when Newt was pushing for individual health care mandates (as he is now) Cain was going toe to toe with bill Clinton. Interesting, huh?
He asked her, not the other way around.
He did discuss details in the hospital.
The first wife that Newt divorced did not die. So “deathbed”, which some have said, is wrong. She was sick in the hospital. Getting a tumor removed. Newt was discussing the divorce with her in the hospital.
Why is it “better not ...” Newt’s been keeping himself out of the top tier on purpose, and popped up about a month and a half too early.
Anyway, we’ll have plenty of time to talk about all of Newt’s adulteries and all of Newt’s divorces.
I’ll read links, but I’m not interested in reading “facts” from Newt’s supporters who weren’t there a month ago.
Didn’t see you on any threads where people where saying Newt’s dead, and I was saying we’re gonna have to play whack a mole with that RINO.
I’ll read links though.
In a video captured last week and posted on YouTube Friday, Gingrich told tea party organizer Lisa Miller at a book-signing event that conservatives are inadvertently hindering the cause by backing Conservative Party nominee Doug Hoffman over Dede Scozzafava, the Republican Partys nominee.
Right, divorcing and cheating on all those sick wives is turning out to be a political liability after all.
Anyway, we have a lot of days. Days upon days upon days to really get to the bottom of the story. I’ll have my links, you’ll have your links, and after talking about the minute details of his various adulteries and divorces, I’m sure that Newt will come out either ahead or not ahead.
You can argue with me or someone else about all the RINO positions he’s taken over the years.
This should be fun.
I told you a while back that Cain needed to study up on foriegn policy.
Doesnt look like he did that great a job when asked about Libya. The safest answer would been to say “Let’s see how things go before we judge Libya”. Republicans were all over the map on Libya, do more, do less, do more....
I'll use HotAir as my source... Newt's response Lisa asks Newt (politely, it seems) what he was thinking when he endorsed Scozzafava.:
Gingrich:...... Lets just start with, she is the nominee of the local party, my bias is to be for the nominee of the local party, and I dont second guess the local party, she has signed a no tax increase pledge, she is endorsed by the National Rifle Association, she has come out against Cap and Trade, [crosstalk] she is opposed to the Obama Health Care plan, she will vote for John Boehner instead of Nancy Pelosi.
All of those things together make her it seems to me, a legitimate, authentic, Republican nominee. In addition, the last poll that came out yesterday, she is well ahead of, and she is much more likely to beat the Democrat than Hoffman because Hoffman doesnt live in the district, hes never won an election in the district, she represents the biggest county in the district, she actually knows the local issues, and Hoffman has says publicly he doesnt know the local issues..
So I just think it is a mistake for the Conservative movement, to think splitting in the special elections is a smart idea, if we give that seat to the Democrats, shame on us
first one I found.
I’ll just give you another one, since this is such a fun activity.
Yes Newt Gingrich does 180 and now supports Hoffman yep Dede Scozzafava drops out of the race and then Newt spins his support for Hoffman so tell me this Newt if Scozzafava was such a great choice to begin with as a anti-Pelosi, anti-tax, anti- big government canidate then why did she turn around and endorse the pro-Pelosi, pro-tax, pro big government DEMOCRAT canidate? Explain that!
I'm undecided if or not I want to engage with you about candidates...I prefer straight up discussion not name calling and bashing nor use of old material which has no bearing on the current status of our country and those who are running.
On second thought...no thank you...you are out for character assassination and I won't play that game with you.
Oh, I’m sure I’ll see you defending Newt on other threads. You’ll have plenty of chances to read about all of Newt’s adulterys and divorcing of sick wives and you can dive on in there and defend him.
Gingrich is a real conservative who has proven it when in office. Newt has 2 balanced budgets to his credit, 2 near balanced, and 2 after he left office that really are a result of his work.
He stood up for life WHILE in office, he stood for American exceptionalism, for our military, and for the right of self-defense. All of this was WHILE he was in office.
After office, he pursued a number of things, and as with most very active minds, he talks aloud about the things going through his mind, the various thoughts he is weighing.
These are what has gotten him grief. NONE of them, however, were ever implemented or attempted to be implemented WHILE in office.
The global warming thing (both ANWR and Pelosi ad) was thoughts he had PRIOR TO the exposure of fraud in the global warming data.
The “mandate” thing is Newt saying people without insurance should have to pay their own way instead of the rest of us having to pay for them, so they should post a bond or have insurance. He had no additional “program” to go with that thought. I actually believe what he’s said. They should have to pay their own way. That is a very conservative thought.
Nor has he suggested a global government. He’s basically suggested a group of cooperating world true “parliamentary” democracies. (parliamentary = legislature)
In ALL of these, he is saying that American conservatives should look at policy ideas from a “conservative” perspective.
Biblical experts encourage folks to “think biblically about past,present, and future” and we all understand what they mean.
Gingrich appears to be encouraging folks to “think conservatively about past, present, future.” What is a CONSERVATIVE solution, for example, for 4% of America’s children being truly underfed?
“The most notorious incident in Gingrich’s marriage ... was when he cornered Jackie in her hospital room where she was recovering from uterine cancer surgery and insisted on discussing the terms of the divorce he was seeking. Shortly after that infamous encounter, Gingrich refused to pay his alimony and child-support payments. The First Baptist Church in his hometown had to take up a collection to support the family Gingrich had deserted. Six months after divorcing Jackie, Gingrich married a younger woman, Marianne, with whom he had been having an affair.”
Wow, I gotta tell ya, there’s a lot out there.
Are you sure you don’t want Newt dropping out?
Remember when he was “toast”? Now he’s like freshly embararrased, about to be toast. He is famous though, and a lot of really senile, really old people will remember his name.
The “sick wife” lie has long since been dispelled. You also spread countless lies and half truths about Perry. Like it or not, you have set your own reputation as to how other people see you.
Try something unusual and show support for your candidate for a change, without running somebody down in such a hateful way.
I think I know who you support, perhaps Run Paul. which in itself, explains your nasty predisposition.
For one thing, Gingrich pioneered a denial of adultery that some observers would later christen “the Newt Defense”: Oral sex doesn’t count. In a revealing psychological portrait of the “inner” Gingrich that appeared in Vanity Fair (September 1995), Gail Sheehy uncovered a woman, Anne Manning, who had an affair in Washington in 1977 with a married Gingrich.
“We had oral sex,” Manning revealed. “He prefers that modus operandi because then he can say, ‘I never slept with her.’” She added that Gingrich threatened her: “If you ever tell anybody about this, I’ll say you’re lying.”
Wow, Cain is being accused of trying something like this. They say it’s a major scandal or something
People who support guilty candidates often try to change the subject.
This thread is about Newt Gingrich.
So, because recent polls have indicated that people wouldn’t vote for a candidate with Newt’s background, and Newt’s now toward the top of the polls.
You mentioned Perry. I really really don’t like Perry. Under no circumstances would I vote for Perry.
I’d vote for Newt. But when people start using the “no one left” argument, I have to argue that Newt will be a bloody pulp by Jan 3. These segments from news stories will be what the media would be talking about.
When someone says Newt can win, I say, are you crazy? Look at this stuff.
But I’d vote for Newt. And I’d probably vote for former 4 term US Rep and 1 term Louisiana Governor Buddy Roemer, who switched from Democrat to Republican around the same time that Rick Perry did. Roemer also graduated from Harvard Undergrad, and got a Harvard MBA. He also founded a bank.
Why do we have to hear from Gingrich supporters that he’s the last one left, when Buddy Roemer hasn’t even been in one debate, and Buddy Roemer has the education, and the Legislative and Executive and Private Sector experience to belong on the debate stage. Not saying he should win. But until we hear from Buddy Roemer, Newt is not the last one.
Doubt many here will find it convincing.”
True. But guess what? The Jindal/DeMint ticket isn’t going to happen.
His comment on Ryan’s budget, while boneheaded, wasn’t quite what it appeared to be.
Basically, he was speaking of two things that Ryan’s budget failed to do:
1. Offer real choice to the individual
2. Be politically sellable (the GOP is always weak in this department)
I give Newt a pass on this.
The Medicare thing was an analogy, an example.
I care a lot more about what Newt did in Congress (balanced the budget, reformed welfare, etc) than what he did when he was not an elected official.
I swear, that graphic needs to be FR’s new logo.
Key words in your reply: NEWT SAYS. What he says is disputed by others. And what he says makes no catergorical sense at all, You don't pay $1.6 million over 8 years to someone just to tell you you ar wrong. And the guy he had the arrangement with was the CHIEF LOBBYIST for Freddie Mac.
Wow! That is a great speech! He takes aim at both Democrats and Republicans and even calls out George W. Bush. He tells it like it is regarding the war on terror. Worth the time to watch all three parts of this speech. Thanks for posting it!
Like all the other Newt fluff this is long on emotion based rhetoric while being almost complete vacant of any sort of rational fact based argument for Newt.