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Is Newt Electable? Hell Yes!
Dick Morris.com ^ | 11-15-2011 | Dick Morris

Posted on 11/17/2011 2:25:24 PM PST by TitansAFC

As the debates accumulate, it becomes more and more evident that Newt Gingrich’s intellect, experience, articulateness and depth of knowledge elevate him to the top of the GOP field. Anyone should be happy to pay admission to watch him duel with President Obama in debate! He’s not as charismatic as Herman Cain or as smooth as Mitt Romney, but boy, does he have a brain!

Ever since the campaign started, Newt has always gotten in his own way. Now he has graciously stepped aside and let his creativity and intellect shine through.

Earlier in the debates, he bit the questioners’ heads off in a pique of surly crankiness. No longer. Now he just answers the questions as they come, often hitting them out of the ballpark. His perspective and insights are penetrating and his condescension has vanished (or at least is sublimated).

Unfortunately, he does owe some of his current surge to the unsubstantiated and vague charges against Cain. While Republicans generally dismiss these charges, they worry that they will hurt him in November should he win the nomination. Herman will recover. His positive solutions for our economy will lift him back into the top tier of contention. Michele Bachmann might also come back, lifted by a tide of opposition to any tax increases embedded in the deficit-reduction supercommittee’s recommendations.

But any recovery by Cain or Bachmann will not bump Newt from the top tier. The likely result of the debate process is to bequeath to Iowa three or four contending candidates and leave it to them to sort out.

If Newt is the candidate, will his personal baggage drag him down? It will hurt, no doubt about that. His marriages will be dissected by the media, and his family will be deluged with questions and well-laid traps.

His ratings will decline as the inevitable baptism of fire begins. As with Cain, he will experience a few bad weeks. But, as with Cain, his positive strengths will carry him through the fire and he will come out the other end.

But once Newt survives the process, he will be inoculated against the charges. He will have immunity against the issue.

And here is the core of Obama’s problem. All of the Republican candidates will be so thoroughly vetted — and purified — by the brutal process they are going through that they will be immune to his charges against them in the fall.

John Kerry never went through that process. His quick knockout of Howard Dean and the tepid challenge mounted by John Edwards did nothing to vet his claims of hero status in Vietnam.

Obama, on the other hand, survived the Rev. Jeremiah Wright and Bill Ayers charges in the primary. When the general election came, they were old hat and had no electoral punch. Similarly, Bill Clinton got the nomination only after he had survived Gennifer Flowers and the accusations of draft-dodging. In November, those charges were spent bullets.

That’s the good news for Republicans. The nominating process has been so combative and the media scrutiny so searing that the candidates have been pre-screened. The FBI screening process is nowhere near as intense as the negative-research capacities of the media and political opponents.

If nominated, Romney will have survived the accusations of flip-flopping, Cain will have overcome the sexual harassment charges and Newt’s marital history will be yesterday’s news. And then we can get on with the business of winning the election.

And win it we will. Obama cannot survive his 60 percent disapproval rating on his handling of the economy (the highest ever recorded by CBS during his administration). Under his leadership, Gallup reports an almost 10-point edge for the Republican Party on handling the economy. Against a generic opponent, Obama draws only 43 percent of the vote. With the personal negatives on the Republican candidates aired and used up during the primaries, there will be nothing for Obama to hide behind.


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KEYWORDS: 2012; circularfiringsquad; gingrich; newt; obama
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Well said. I will not vote for Newt.


51 posted on 11/17/2011 3:19:46 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: stars & stripes forever

He had become a lightening rod for the left, somewhat similar to Bush but even worse. And just why was he a lightening rod? Because of his CONSERVATIVE agenda & the fact he had kicked their butts so bad.


52 posted on 11/17/2011 3:22:10 PM PST by Confab
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To: Confab
I couldn't care less about newts personal baggage. Its his liberal political baggage that is his major problem... Old finger in the air to see which way the wind is blowing and thats the direction he heads for...Newt has always been about Newt.

Newts personal baggage is of concern only to those involved. I have nothing to forgive him for in that area, he didn't hurt me. Political baggage, no forgiveness from me, he's a hypocrit....

53 posted on 11/17/2011 3:24:42 PM PST by goat granny
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To: discostu

Deatails easy to get? What a joke, sure it easy to get but is it the truth? Gail Sheehy (a liberal man-hating lying journalist) and Vanity Fair along with his second wife, during their separation flamed Gingrich every chance they had, because it propped Clinton up. Just to set the record straight, here is the exact quote Gingrich made regarding his second marriage. It is a far cry from “I cheated because of my love of country.” The operative phrase here is (WORKED FAR TOO HARD)

“There’s no question at times of my life, partially driven by how passionately I felt about this country, that I worked far too hard and things happened in my life that were not appropriate,” Gingrich said.


54 posted on 11/17/2011 3:26:52 PM PST by Toespi
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To: goat granny

My fear is that people here fooled by Newt, will also be fooled by Romney.....Romney will start talking like a Tea-Partier, bank on it. Don’t fall for it.


55 posted on 11/17/2011 3:27:15 PM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

I’ll take a man who knows how to surround himself with the right people that I CAN TRUST vs a smart guy who has all the answers and will screw me as soon as I turn around.
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lets hear a name.

Name one of these guys that you trust to surround themselves with good people.


56 posted on 11/17/2011 3:27:17 PM PST by Venturer
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To: ExTexasRedhead

When Cain starts talking, I hold my breath that he will speak with authority.

When Perry starts talking, I hold my breath that he will know the answer to the question.

When Bachman starts talking, I tune her out because I know she will find the part of the question she disagrees with and then will let us know that she has already introduced legislation to resolve it.

When Huntsman or Santorum start talking, I tune them out because neither has the authoritative voice that tells me I need to listen to them.

When Ron Paul starts talking, I smile because he is such fun.

When Newt Gingrich starts talking, I sit back and listen. Intently.

Right now - that’s the field. Newt has said that if he’s elected president, the economy will have taken a giant step toward recovery by the end of his first day in office and that every unelected czar will be out of a job.

You’re right. We’re hungering for someone to get us going in the right direction. Gingrich may not be Patton, but his talk is the kind of talk I want to hear.


57 posted on 11/17/2011 3:28:20 PM PST by Helen
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To: TitansAFC

Newt is the desperation candidate. Newt is the candidate you vote for and hope he can beat Obozo that won’t sell you out.

Newt has such a giant ego that he will compromise every time.

You won’t know what hit you.

Oh well....


58 posted on 11/17/2011 3:29:10 PM PST by dforest
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To: dfwgator

Fooled by Newt? Is that what you think when you watch Newt address the perils we face? ... Or have you settled in to ignore listening to him so you can feel good about attacking him for your candidate. And whom might that be, BTW, which of the candidates is your perfect paragon of leadership?


59 posted on 11/17/2011 3:29:41 PM PST by MHGinTN
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To: Indy Pendance

My thoroughly vetted, thoroughbred with the stellar track record and 26,000+ of her emails searched and published didn’t run, which left me without a candidate and also emotionally detached from this primary season.

I got the chance to personally meet and speak with five of our candidates at the GOP Debate in Tampa, FL in September. All were extremely nice to me and I think Michele Bachmann took the most time talking to me. I love the photo of the two of us together too.

The others I met were Newt Gingrich, Rick Perry, Herman Cain and Mitt Romney.

Like you said, our top tier elected not to run. I am fine with Newt stopping Romney. Count me ALL IN FOR NEWT if our bedrock conservatives continue to fail, -— to win nomination, but not one vote has been cast.

Mr. Speaker has a serious plan at his website and we can pray he holds firm and stays the course.

I will not sit out or vote third party. If Romney is the nominee, I will vote for my thoroughbred via write-in, and TEA Party conservative all the way down the remainder of my ballot.


60 posted on 11/17/2011 3:29:47 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC BY DONATING NOW! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: indylindy

Shades of the Parliamentary assault on Winston Churchill! I didn’t know you were such a student of british History.


61 posted on 11/17/2011 3:30:53 PM PST by MHGinTN
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To: MHGinTN

As for Newt, all I can say is, “Talk is cheap.”


62 posted on 11/17/2011 3:31:30 PM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: Toespi

Newt is not a conservative. He is a moderate-just like Mitt Romney.

He may be the smartest guy in the room, but he is also the best maniupulator in the room.


63 posted on 11/17/2011 3:31:45 PM PST by not2worry
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To: Venturer
How's bout someone who is not a politician?

Hmmmm, let me see if I can think of someone....oh wait, can't have him because he doesn't have any insider political experience.

Guess the TP was a waste of time if it is to be forgotten so soon.

64 posted on 11/17/2011 3:31:45 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio)
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To: goat granny

What did you think of Reagan’s liberal political baggage? You know, amnesty, anti gun legislation, tax hikes, signing the first ever abortion rights bill in California, endorsing RINO’s, etc.

Are you consistent?


65 posted on 11/17/2011 3:32:38 PM PST by Confab
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To: MHGinTN

But as I said earlier, I would vote for Newt if he’s the nominee.


66 posted on 11/17/2011 3:32:43 PM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: Helen
When Newt Gingrich starts talking, I sit back and listen. Intently.

Isn't that the truth!
When Newt starts talking, it's like a master class and a feast. I just told my husband this morning, "Won't it be a relief to have competence in the White House?"

67 posted on 11/17/2011 3:37:45 PM PST by b9 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_hd23sdf4CE)
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To: TitansAFC
NEWTer The White House 2012
68 posted on 11/17/2011 3:38:58 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC BY DONATING NOW! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: b9

Nobody here denies that Newt talks a good game....but he doesn’t walk the talk.


69 posted on 11/17/2011 3:39:13 PM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: katiedidit1

Seems many people disagree, http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2809123/posts?page=1


70 posted on 11/17/2011 3:40:17 PM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: Confab
amnesty

Look up simson misoly act, Congress went back on their word

tax hikes

Nice try, look up TEFRA and see above regarding Congress.

signing the first ever abortion rights bill in California,

That was before he left the DEM party and changed his view to Pro Life.

Why are you spouting leftest talking points on FR?

71 posted on 11/17/2011 3:42:54 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio)
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To: TitansAFC

Has Little Dickie Morris gotten his grade for accurate predictions out of “F-” territory yet?


72 posted on 11/17/2011 3:43:54 PM PST by Ingtar
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To: dfwgator

Newt, of all people, knows it’s not a “game.”

Research is your friend. http://www.newt.org/


73 posted on 11/17/2011 3:45:56 PM PST by b9 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_hd23sdf4CE)
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To: onyx

I’m not in anyone’s camp. I’ll vote for not obama. I get miffed why some of the solid conservatives didn’t toss their hat in. Paul Ryan, I got kids and won’t run, is a LAME excuse. Sorry Paul, our country needs you now. Why did you get into politics if you couldn’t handle the pressure and didn’t want to put yourself out there. He’s not my rep, he’s in the district next to me. But, really? That’s your reason. People in WI are ticked about this. He was ready, and he didn’t want to fill that void. I’m really sad he didn’t step up.

Now, we’ve got another host of wannebe’s trying to be the next candidate. They all suck.


74 posted on 11/17/2011 3:45:57 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: OldPossum
Re your post 17, I agree. The Newt haters have no substantive argument. All they can do is reference “affairs” and yet they don’t give any details so that we can know what a scumbag the man is.

And I fail to see any connection between the man’s personal life and his ability to serve. Please elucidate on the connection.

If you really must know, Newt was shtupping someone who was effectively a junior employee roughly half his age while leading the charge on the Clinton/Lewinski scandal. When his wife found out, he wasn't apologetic or repentent, and even worse asked his wife to simply look the other way to spare him public embarassment.

Newt has proven over and over that he is devoid of personal integrity. That's a problem when you're putting somone in any position of authority, much less making them President of the United States. Newt has shown that where there's personal gain at stake for him, that everything else goes out the window. He doesn't care about the consequences his self-seeking actions may have on other people - even immediate family - much less the rest of us.

His poor judgement, arising IMO from a complete lack of personal integrity, is just as evident in his political career as his personal life. In the past he's shown a willingness to sacrifice our national interests in exchange for personal gain too often and too easily to be trusted with real power.
75 posted on 11/17/2011 3:46:57 PM PST by CowboyJay (Generic Republican - 2012. He's the only 'electable' candidate.)
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To: b9

But Newt G’s stand on immigration is scary!


76 posted on 11/17/2011 3:47:52 PM PST by apocalypto
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To: TitansAFC

He would do no better against Obama than McCain and probably a lot worse.


77 posted on 11/17/2011 3:48:07 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture (Could be worst in 40 years))
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To: Indy Pendance

I’m holding out for Scott Walker, I just hope and pray the Unions and their willing accomplices in the media don’t destroy him. And if the GOP doesn’t have his back, I’m done with them for good.


78 posted on 11/17/2011 3:49:36 PM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

I’m hardly spouting leftest talking points, just pointing out the hypocrisy. And get your points straight. Although Reagan was pro life, he signed the abortion bill as a REPUBLICAN governor. It was part of a compromise which he later regretted, but he signed it none the less & California has never looked back.

Ronald Reagan was one of the greatest presidents of all time, & certainly the greatest of my lifetime. However, he didn’t have a perfect conservative voting record that some here seem to expect from others. That’s the point.


79 posted on 11/17/2011 3:51:42 PM PST by Confab
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To: CharlotteVRWC

Exactly. Obama must be defeated or the Republic is toast.


80 posted on 11/17/2011 3:52:05 PM PST by YankeeDoodleRebel
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To: discostu

Aww ... and I really LIKE Jefferson and consider him to have been extremely impressive.


81 posted on 11/17/2011 3:53:12 PM PST by RainMan (Newt, because he smells better than Romney, and Romney smells better than Obama. Gingrich/Palin 2012)
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To: apocalypto

“A society that fails to control its own borders is asking for the level of trouble we now have.”

http://www.newt.org/solutions/tell-truth-about-national-security


82 posted on 11/17/2011 3:53:52 PM PST by b9 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_hd23sdf4CE)
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83 posted on 11/17/2011 3:58:08 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: dfwgator

How can anyone say Newt is all talk and no walk? Did everyone simply forget that he was the primary architect of the true fiscal conservatism in the 90’s when he managed to get a Democratic president to go along with his agenda?

Welfare reform brought down government spending and forced millions of able bodied Americans to get off their duffs and go get jobs. This resulted in lower unemployment and a wider tax base and contributed to balanced budgets.

Remember federal spending limits? This was Newt’s biggest accomplishment (though Clinton seems to get credit for signing it) making sure our goverment wouldn’t spend our country into debt. Along with trade agreements and other fiscally responsible policies the United States was immensely prosperous because of the government staying out of the way and letting free markets work the way they should.

And then the GOP tossed him overboard. The Democrats made him a target and threw so many mudballs at him that the establishment Republicans abandoned him to prove to the media that they weren’t a bunch of meanies who want to starve children and kick old people out to the curb. The reason he has a reputation as “damaged goods” is because the GOP put that label on him themselves. It’s a shame so many grassroots conservatives went along with this.

I’ve been saying for months that he is not just electable, but that he’s a terrific candidate. He’s also one of the few candidates who is taking care to NOT criticize other Republican candidates because there is a higher priority - criticizing Obama and the Democrats. If you’ve noticed, he has been consistent in explaining exactly what is wrong with Democratic policies and telling us what Republican policies will replace them.

I will certainly be voting for whomever the Republican nominee is from among this field in order to get Obama out of the White House. But my most enthusiastic vote would be for Newt.


84 posted on 11/17/2011 4:02:21 PM PST by spinestein (The answer is 42.)
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To: Confab
And get your points straight. Although Reagan was pro life, he signed the abortion bill as a REPUBLICAN governor. It was part of a compromise which he later regretted, but he signed it none the less

I stand corerected on that point, he was Rep. when he signed that bill.

My other points stand though, and your arguements are the favorites of the left when bashing Reagan.

85 posted on 11/17/2011 4:04:06 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio)
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To: TitansAFC

Newt? - Hell No


86 posted on 11/17/2011 4:04:36 PM PST by Craftmore
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To: spinestein

Most excellent post!


87 posted on 11/17/2011 4:10:42 PM PST by b9 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_hd23sdf4CE)
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To: Confab
Why did Newt leave Congress?

According to Answerbag.com:

In 1998 Newt Gingrich was facing numerous obstacles. The Republican attempt to remove then President Bill Clinton from office was unpopular with the public. Gingrich himself was increasingly unpopular with the public, he was facing numerous ethics investigations, he had lead his party to disappointing results in a recent election and he was facing a growing dissatisfaction with his leadership within the Republican party. On November 6, 1998 he resigned as Speaker of the House and from the Congress.

Declining Popularity According to the Washington Post, by July of 1998 only 31% of those surveyed had a favorable impression of Newt Gingrich, while 47% had a negative impression of him. According to that same poll, only 38% felt that Republicans were best suited to handle the nation's problems, down from 60% 4 years earlier.

Ethics Probe Gingrich and foundations he was associated with were under investigation for numerous ethics violations, primarily concerning using tax exempt status for organizations designed to further his political goals and making misleading statements to congress. In December 1998 he paid $300,000 of his own money to settle the last of these charges.

88 posted on 11/17/2011 4:12:56 PM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord!)
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To: TitansAFC

Oh sure he is. Let’s put Trent Lott or Bob Dole on the ticket as VP and make it just like it was in the Good Ole Days. /sarcasm


89 posted on 11/17/2011 4:24:06 PM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: stars & stripes forever

Were you around at that time? Your use of the article leads me to believe you weren’t.

He was unpopular because of his CONSERVATIVE stands of which his own party, the establishment, wouldn’t stand behind him on. Clinton was working his magic & had the public in his back pocket for the better part. “It’s the economy stupid”, & the economy was good, life was good for most & they didn’t want the boat rocked. Gingrich was rocking the boat.

Gingrich had dozens & dozens of ethics complaints filed against him, a favorite lib tactic (see Sarah Palin) but not one of them stuck (see Sarah Palin). He settled on the last to save a long drawn out process of which his own party didn’t have the conviction to stand w/ him on.

The Republican party at the time was a bunch of weenies afraid of losing power. Newt was the sacrificial lamb & it took years for the Republicans to get their conservative chops back after that despicable showing.

Do yourself a favor, go look at the last charge that he paid the fine on & tell me what it looks like to you, especially in light of what I just laid out & what congress has been getting away w/ ever since.


90 posted on 11/17/2011 4:30:02 PM PST by Confab
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To: Confab
Gingrich had dozens & dozens of ethics complaints filed against him, a favorite lib tactic

Sounds like what is happening to HERMAN CAIN.

91 posted on 11/17/2011 4:34:17 PM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord!)
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To: stars & stripes forever

Now there we can agree! It’s the same ole lib tactics they’ve been using forever. It’s filthy what they done to Cain.


92 posted on 11/17/2011 4:36:23 PM PST by Confab
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To: Confab
He was unpopular because of his CONSERVATIVE stands of which his own party, the establishment, wouldn’t stand behind him on.

Newt backed away from those stands himself.

He got a taste of power and at some point he decided staying in power and reaping the benefits was more important than making changes.

From his early Rockefeller Republican days to his Nancy Pelosi global warming ad he's always been an ambivalent figure -- sometimes a model for conservatives, sometimes anything but.

93 posted on 11/17/2011 4:36:35 PM PST by x
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To: x

No doubt he made mistakes of which he takes full accountability. The point is that conservatism wasn’t ready to go full bore yet. People weren’t ready as a whole for what Newt was preaching. He adapted & changed.

Newt has recognized the mistakes however. Times have changed & America is finally ready to handle what Reagan, & later Newt, started. Have you ever changed your line of thinking based on circumstances? I certainly have.

I think Newt has as well. If that’s the case, there’s no better in our current field to bring about the change we’re all so desperate to see. A Gingrich/Cain ticket would be dynamite! Newt could do his thing while Cain learns the ropes & gets up to speed.


94 posted on 11/17/2011 4:48:43 PM PST by Confab
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To: TitansAFC

Why I prefer Newt over Cain. The following issues concern me

Cain’s Wife Voted Democrat and YES! FLOTUS play a role in America’s lifestyle or politics
http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/Cain-Wife-Votes-Democrat/2011/11/04/id/416931

Cain “would have no problem hiring an OPENLY Gay staffer

http://www.thestatecolumn.com/articles/herman-cain-id-hire-an-openly-gay-staffer/

Questionable donations

In 1993, Cain donated $250 to New York Rep. Jose Serrano (D), according to the Center for Responsive Politics. Many consider Serrano one of Congress’ most outspoken defenders of Latin American dictators like Fidel Castro and Hugo Chávez.

When he was the president of Nebraska-based Godfather’s Pizza, Cain primarily donated to Republican candidates, but he also provided financial support to a Democrats.

“They were business decisions and personal decisions,” Cain said in an interview published last week by Yahoo News.

Cain defended the donations, saying that the beneficiaries were “moderate” Democrats. But when it comes to Latin American politics, Serrano is far from “moderate.”

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/280470/cains-past-donations-democrats-katrina-trinko

Cain considered voting for Obama in 2008 but instead voted for Romney

In 2008, Cain was asked if he could support Obama for President. He said he could envision doing just that if he would agree to work across the aisle. Really, now. With all we knew about Obama, would any of us have even gave this any thought? Yet a conservative who was intending on running for President would. I hear his supporters say he was proud a black man was going to be President. What happened to “I’m not a black man.” “I’m not an African American”. “I’m a conservative.”
Now in this race, he said he supports Romney. And all indications are that he is doing just that.

CAIN said he would surround himself with top notch advisors...in that case he needs to get rid of Brazil ASAP! http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20111116_Key_figure_in_Philly_bugging_probe_now_top_Cain_aide.html

Cain also made “false allegations,” against the Perry campaign accusing him of being behind the “false allegations,” on HIM.

Enterprise Zones...

Detroit would pay 3 3 3 instead of 9 9 9

His plan, however, was a significant adjustment from how it was initially proposed. In an interview last week, he suggested some leeway to boost economic development. For instance, taxes in struggling areas could be set at 3-3-3 rates, 3 percent in each category.
“Because you have a lot of African-Americans located in cities like Detroit — disproportionately — it would encourage businesses to stay in business there or to move there,” Cain told CNN. “It would encourage people to work there, because if you live in the empowerment zone, you’re going to pay a smaller percentage in taxes.”

From The Detroit News: http://detnews.com/article/20111021/POLITICS03/110210417/Cain-proposes-to-help-‘empowerment-zones’-such-as-Detroit#ixzz1e0V43lAW

No Preference shall be given by any Regulation of Commerce or Revenue to the Ports of one State over those of another: nor shall Vessels bound to, or from, one State, be obliged to enter, clear or pay Duties in another. So, what part of Article 1, Section 9, Clause 6 does Herman Cain not understand?

And if Article 1, Section 9. Clause 6 is not clear enough for Mr. Cain to understand the founder‘s intentions, and that our federal government is one of defined and limited powers, what part of Federalist No. 45 does Mr. Cain not understand which summarizes our federal government’s job as follows?

“The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation, and foreign commerce; with which last the power of taxation will, for the most part, be connected.

The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement, and prosperity of the State.

Cain’s proposal on empowerment zones is unconstitutional and violates the 10th ammendment..

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States, respectively, or to the people.

Finally, if the above has not sent the message to Mr. Cain that his proposal is tyranny with a smiley-face, then perhaps Herman ought to read what our Supreme Court stated shortly after the Tenth Amendment was adopted

The government of the United States is of the latter description. The powers of the legislature are defined and limited; and that those limits may not be mistaken or forgotten, the constitution is written. To what purpose are powers limited, and to what purpose is that limitation committed to writing; if these limits may, at any time, be passed by those intended to be restrained? The distinction between a government with limited and unlimited powers is abolished, if those limits do not confine the persons on whom they are imposed, and if acts prohibited and acts allowed are of equal obligation. It is a proposition too plain to be contested, that the constitution controls any legislative act repugnant to it; or, that the legislature may alter the constitution by an ordinary act.

Between these alternatives there is no middle ground. The constitution is either a superior, paramount law, unchangeable by ordinary means, or it is on a level with ordinary legislative acts, and like other acts, is alterable when the legislature shall please to alter it.

If the former part of the alternative be true, then a legislative act contrary to the constitution is not law: if the latter part be true, then written constitutions are absurd attempts, on the part of the people, to limit a power in its own nature illimitable.

Certainly all those who have framed written constitutions contemplate them as forming the fundamental and paramount law of the nation, and consequently the theory of every such government must be, that an act of the legislature repugnant to the constitution is void. ____ MARBURY v. MADISON, 5 U.S. 137 (1803)

9% Individual Flat Tax. http://www.hermancain.com/999

•Gross income less charitable deductions.
•Empowerment Zones will offer ADDITIONAL DEDUCTIONS for those living and/or working in the zone.


95 posted on 11/17/2011 4:49:38 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: bwc2221
Newt has betrayed conservatives as often as he has betrayed his wives.

Good....I can handle two times.

96 posted on 11/17/2011 4:50:25 PM PST by eddie willers
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To: Hot Tabasco
Perhaps but he has to win the primary and I'm not voting for him.........

No one's saying you must ...

but don't you owe us an explanation of who CAN win, how they can defeat both enemies: obama and the media?

Surely you must have those answers. Don't keep them secret from us.

97 posted on 11/17/2011 4:52:23 PM PST by maine-iac7 (ALWAYS WATCH THE OTHER HAND)
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To: Deb
Newt's not Lincoln, but he masterminded the first Republican control of Congress in 40 years...

After Nixon and Watergate, I didn't believe I would ever see a Republican controlled house in my lifetime. (and there hadn't been one in my lifetime up to THAT point either)

98 posted on 11/17/2011 4:55:55 PM PST by eddie willers
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To: org.whodat

Why I prefer Newt over Cain. The following issues concern me

Cain’s Wife Voted Democrat and YES! FLOTUS play a role in America’s lifestyle or politics
http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/Cain-Wife-Votes-Democrat/2011/11/04/id/416931

Cain “would have no problem hiring an OPENLY Gay staffer

http://www.thestatecolumn.com/articles/herman-cain-id-hire-an-openly-gay-staffer/

Questionable donations

In 1993, Cain donated $250 to New York Rep. Jose Serrano (D), according to the Center for Responsive Politics. Many consider Serrano one of Congress’ most outspoken defenders of Latin American dictators like Fidel Castro and Hugo Chávez.

When he was the president of Nebraska-based Godfather’s Pizza, Cain primarily donated to Republican candidates, but he also provided financial support to a Democrats.

“They were business decisions and personal decisions,” Cain said in an interview published last week by Yahoo News.

Cain defended the donations, saying that the beneficiaries were “moderate” Democrats. But when it comes to Latin American politics, Serrano is far from “moderate.”

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/280470/cains-past-donations-democrats-katrina-trinko

Cain considered voting for Obama in 2008 but instead voted for Romney

In 2008, Cain was asked if he could support Obama for President. He said he could envision doing just that if he would agree to work across the aisle. Really, now. With all we knew about Obama, would any of us have even gave this any thought? Yet a conservative who was intending on running for President would. I hear his supporters say he was proud a black man was going to be President. What happened to “I’m not a black man.” “I’m not an African American”. “I’m a conservative.”
Now in this race, he said he supports Romney. And all indications are that he is doing just that.

CAIN said he would surround himself with top notch advisors...in that case he needs to get rid of Brazil ASAP! http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20111116_Key_figure_in_Philly_bugging_probe_now_top_Cain_aide.html

Cain also made “false allegations,” against the Perry campaign accusing him of being behind the “false allegations,” on HIM.

Enterprise Zones...

Detroit would pay 3 3 3 instead of 9 9 9

His plan, however, was a significant adjustment from how it was initially proposed. In an interview last week, he suggested some leeway to boost economic development. For instance, taxes in struggling areas could be set at 3-3-3 rates, 3 percent in each category.
“Because you have a lot of African-Americans located in cities like Detroit — disproportionately — it would encourage businesses to stay in business there or to move there,” Cain told CNN. “It would encourage people to work there, because if you live in the empowerment zone, you’re going to pay a smaller percentage in taxes.”

From The Detroit News: http://detnews.com/article/20111021/POLITICS03/110210417/Cain-proposes-to-help-‘empowerment-zones’-such-as-Detroit#ixzz1e0V43lAW

No Preference shall be given by any Regulation of Commerce or Revenue to the Ports of one State over those of another: nor shall Vessels bound to, or from, one State, be obliged to enter, clear or pay Duties in another. So, what part of Article 1, Section 9, Clause 6 does Herman Cain not understand?

And if Article 1, Section 9. Clause 6 is not clear enough for Mr. Cain to understand the founder‘s intentions, and that our federal government is one of defined and limited powers, what part of Federalist No. 45 does Mr. Cain not understand which summarizes our federal government’s job as follows?

“The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation, and foreign commerce; with which last the power of taxation will, for the most part, be connected.

The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement, and prosperity of the State.

Cain’s proposal on empowerment zones is unconstitutional and violates the 10th ammendment..

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States, respectively, or to the people.

Finally, if the above has not sent the message to Mr. Cain that his proposal is tyranny with a smiley-face, then perhaps Herman ought to read what our Supreme Court stated shortly after the Tenth Amendment was adopted

The government of the United States is of the latter description. The powers of the legislature are defined and limited; and that those limits may not be mistaken or forgotten, the constitution is written. To what purpose are powers limited, and to what purpose is that limitation committed to writing; if these limits may, at any time, be passed by those intended to be restrained? The distinction between a government with limited and unlimited powers is abolished, if those limits do not confine the persons on whom they are imposed, and if acts prohibited and acts allowed are of equal obligation. It is a proposition too plain to be contested, that the constitution controls any legislative act repugnant to it; or, that the legislature may alter the constitution by an ordinary act.

Between these alternatives there is no middle ground. The constitution is either a superior, paramount law, unchangeable by ordinary means, or it is on a level with ordinary legislative acts, and like other acts, is alterable when the legislature shall please to alter it.

If the former part of the alternative be true, then a legislative act contrary to the constitution is not law: if the latter part be true, then written constitutions are absurd attempts, on the part of the people, to limit a power in its own nature illimitable.

Certainly all those who have framed written constitutions contemplate them as forming the fundamental and paramount law of the nation, and consequently the theory of every such government must be, that an act of the legislature repugnant to the constitution is void. ____ MARBURY v. MADISON, 5 U.S. 137 (1803)

9% Individual Flat Tax. http://www.hermancain.com/999

•Gross income less charitable deductions.
•Empowerment Zones will offer ADDITIONAL DEDUCTIONS for those living and/or working in the zone.


99 posted on 11/17/2011 4:59:58 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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100 posted on 11/17/2011 5:00:50 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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