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Posted on 11/18/2011 9:45:27 AM PST by Libloather
Workers angry as Black Friday creeps into Thanksgiving
By Kavita Kumar
St. Louis Post-Dispatch
Friday, November 18, 2011
ST. LOUIS Lyndsey Shaw has been on the front lines of Black Friday in years past, helping to open the Best Buy store in Brentwood, Mo., by 5 a.m.
But when Best Buy decided to follow other retailers this year in moving up its opening time to midnight on Thanksgiving, Shaw worried she would have to miss her familys tradition of going out to see Christmas lights after their holiday dinner.
We dont usually get everything cleaned up and out the door until 10 p.m., she said.
Fortunately, her supervisor allowed her to work a Friday afternoon shift instead.
But with several other retailers, including Macys, Kohls and Target, also opening at midnight for the first time, a groundswell of protest has been brewing among people who worry that not all retail employees will be as lucky and that some will have to skip out early on family gatherings.
And moreover, critics assert, the earlier opening times are encroaching too much on a holiday that should be reserved for family not for shopping.
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I hated my college job at Tar-jay during this time.
Had to be there at 5AM till 2 the day after Thanksgiving just to be trampled, cursed at, and berated by a bunch of future broke people loading up on crap from China.
I feel sorry for those workers that are there today. It is no fun at all.
We need doctors and police to work, but the world will go on if people can’t get their big screen TV at 5 AM in the morning.
Absolutely. I miss the ‘70s more each day.
Nice. I imagine that’s how you treat the help on Black Friday, too.
It’s safer to go to an “Occupy” protest than it is to shop on Black Friday.
Retail employees complaining about working on the most profitable day of the year is like accountants complaining about missing out on the early April flowers.
capitalism, spell it with me now. What, exactly about this, do you not like?
If they got commission on sales, I would see your point.
FAMILY...spell that out and tell me why being open 18 hours starting at 6:00 AM on Black Friday isn’t enough.
Ya know what? nevermind. Golly gee whiz maybe all those poor retail folks should go on strike and protest their poor treatment, and then they can “take down the man”.
One of my favorite days of the year.
It’s obvious you’ve only been on one side of the counter in your life.
What a comeback, Jethro. That sixth grade education paid off for you.
Ya know what, the more I think about it the more I remember that everything I have ever achieved was handed to me.Oh yea, I remember getting that six figure job now for whining.
I have never gone shopping on Black Friday in my life. I do not expect that to ever change.
I’ve never worked retail, although I have done other poopie jobs. If retailers pay bonuses or OT or something to compensate for the madness, then the employees shouldn’t complain. But if they’re like suffer or get fired, they suck, IMO.
yes it’s true!! I am a SQUID!
I look for Black Friday online deals; but there is no way I'm lining up at 4:00 or 5:00 AM and risk getting trampled to get a "good deal". The day after Thanksgiving is more important to me as a day off than as a shopping day.
You can’t count into six figures, that’s eighth grade math, boy.
well ok you win I am a dumbass.
I agree. This push Christmas buying thing is going too far. People have lost the real meaning of “Christmas”.
People might have preferred sleeping in. I hit the bike trails Thanksgiving morning (usually reveling in cutting through the mall parking lot for the last time that year) and Tucson is a ghost town then. Other cities may be different though, we’re pretty laid back here.
Going back through time when people were forced to work 12 hour days just to put food on the table, I'm wondering how many people complained about having to work their farm, or ranch, or blacksmith shop, or whatever, on these holidays (including Christmas)?
Now that black friday is all about the door busters there most definitely is a reason to be open before 6 friday: your competition. Black friday is basically over by 9AM now, by noon it’s down to a basic “normal” shopping day. When it was an all day affair you were right, but now it’s a sprint, one more hour open before 9AM could mean the difference between existing next year and not.
For retail workers, it's a chance to trade family time for a rollicking shift of insults, abuse and anger.
Yep, people who work in Law Enforcement, the field of Medicine, or who are first responders (EMT, Fire fighters, etc) NEVER endure insults, abuse, and/or anger.
If people have truly “lost” the meaning of Christmas, it is NOT the fault of retailers. There is NO ONE holding a gun to ANYONE’S head here.
There once was a time in this country that Americans were people who rolled up their sleeves, went to work, and got things done, regardless of whether that meant losing some “family time” on this or that holiday. Today America appears to be full of whinny little brats who want to have their cake and eat it too. In my parents day they had to work on holidays, and neither one worked in Retail. In my grandparents day they had to work nearly year around, and neither worked in Retail. Going back to the days of the Frontiersman, there were no retail shops, and everyone had to work every day just to have food on the table, a roof over their head, and heat in their home. Perhaps Obozo is right after all. We have gotten soft and lazy.
Life was a carnival! We entertained ourselves! We didn't need moooovin' pitchurrrres. In my day, there was only one show in town -- it was called "Stare at the sun!" ... That's right! You'd sit in the middle of an open field and stare up at the sun till your eyeballs burst into flames! And you thought, "Oh, no! Maybe I shouldn't've stared directly into the burning sun with my eyes wide open." But it was too late! Your head was on fire and people were roastin' chickens over it. ... And that's the way it was and we liked it!
Oh darn, yet another episode of which ever program that is that I missed/s
I don’t know what’s worse-—having to work that early or those embassasing scenes of shoppers trampling each other to death trying to get in....people get a life!
Too late! Besides, I'm wearing my flame-retardant suit. LOL
You asshats espousing yer service to our country as an example of the hard times of serving. Every year I served covered the “holidays” Get over it and get a brain. I defended what WE do NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have NEVER gone shopping on “Black Friday”. The primary reason for me is that no amount savings is worth putting up with the animals who ransack retail stores.
Man if only we were more like europe.
Interesting, you posting this attached to my post #88. I hope there’s no hidden message in this directed to me.
Try being honest when you attempt to argue a point, regardless of how poorly you do it. Comparing retail work on a holiday to emergency services is ridiculous.
nope no hidden meaning. sorry about any inferances. Inference is the act or process of deriving logical conclusions from premises known or assumed to be true.
I was just saying that if we only acted like europe then we all could be broke together. My point being whining about a job during a busy time seems silly. If you don’t make enough then leave... If you cannot leave then sorry, improve youre lot in life, but wait...that requires more work. DAMN!
All of the Paramedics that I know say that New Year's eve is usually pretty quiet.
However, they say Christmas is awful, and Thanksgiving is worse. Family get togethers bring out the worst in people.
I hate shopping and I hate crowds.
I haven't been anywhere near a store on Black Friday since I was a college kid working part-time in a department store.
That's probably what did it for me.
In this economy, those people should feel blessed they have a job in the first place. I’m sure there are countless thousands who would take their place in an instant and not complain about working.
I ignore the holidays...it’s great...no mess, no fuss.