Skip to comments.Cain defies political odds as campaign stands strong
Posted on 11/18/2011 9:55:00 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo
Herman Cain has defied the political odds so far in the face of campaign adversity, and it looks as if he has the GOPs conservative base to thank for it.
The last month of Cains presidential campaign has read like a textbook for how to doom a candidacy: having to deny allegations of sexual harassment, bungling important foreign-policy questions while saying hes not supposed to know anything on the subject, releasing a bizarre Web ad and canceling an editorial board meeting with a key New Hampshire newspaper.
And yet, in an Iowa State University poll released Thursday, the former Godfathers Pizza CEO remains the top choice of voters in the state, garnering nearly a quarter of voters. A Bloomberg News poll on Tuesday found him locked in a four-way tie for first among Iowa voters. Hes also maintained his top-tier status in most national polls and is fundraising at a record pace...
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"Boy, right wingers must be desperate for leadership if Herman Cain is the best they can come up with. The guy's an unmitigated idiot. I would never trust this man to make such vital decisions a president must, especially when it comes to sending troops into battle. Cain's remarks indicate that he thinks running for President is all some kind of joke. Besing (sic) President is a serious endeavor. He needs to grow up and respect that."
Folks, the verdict is in.
Their nuts are being frosted. They don't like this a BIT.
A lib is claiming Cain is dumb and the Cretin-in-Chief is not?
Is this the same Cretin-in-Chief that hides his academic records, his birth records, his passports, and has a SSN originally listed for a dead American... from a state he’s never lived in?
Is this the same Cretin-in-Chief that thinks we have 57 states, that they speak Cuban in Cuba, and conducts foreigh policy like a baby with cholic?
Is the same Cretin-in-Chief that bows to anything that f*rts?
And Cain is the dumb one?
Laura Ingraham is really annoying as she rips Cain on a daily basis. GO HERMAN!
“...best they can come up with. The guy’s an unmitigated idiot...”
Haha!!! Like THEIR current Soros Shoeshine Boy is a genius, right? That feckless Douchebag is L-O-S-T without a teleprompter and his Marxist handler du jour writing out his canned propaganda for him.
Herman is a giant middle finger to the left, isn’t he...and they HATE him for it.
Go Herman, go!
Isn’t that the truth???? I am getting so fed up with many of my former favorite media folks -
Laura is in the tank for Romney. So is Coulter now.
In November 2007, McCain had only 13.8% while Thompson had 15.5% and Guiliani 29.1%
A few short, months later in March, Guiliani had slipped into non-existant numbers while McCain rose to 56.7%, Huckabee 26.3%, and poor Ron Paul at 6.5%.
Cains numbers will certainly increase. Perry needs to forget it as does Romney. They argue back and forth like little girls in need of their mouths washed out with soap. Newt is the only other actual choice if something happens to Cain’s numbers.
Thanks for the add-in!!!!!!!!!! Good point.
We have liberal POSs on our side of the aisle too, and they’re determined to tell us what’s “good for us”.
“Is this the same Cretin-in-Chief that thinks we have 57 states, that they speak Cuban in Cuba, and conducts foreigh policy like a baby with cholic”
And he thinks Hawaii is part of Asia, too. That Cretin in chief?
She wants to deny Herman Cain the GOP Nomination pure and simple. If I were a conservative tempted to listen to her take, folks, I would turn her off. She runs Rovian-type stuff and then laughs and makes fun of him. Her staff in the background laugh and giggle like little schoolchildren, too. Petty sniping and detracting of Cain. Day in. Day out. I have not heard her do this to His Royal Romneyness, somebody correct me? She somehow has it in for Herman Cain to sideline him for 2012 in the worst way, an IMHO is part of the whole collusive bipartisan establishment Beltway Rigged System, if you ask me. See, somebody backchannels and plants the smear(s), someone else comes along and stirs the shit storm per script, and then somebody else is on the Wurlitzer in the background replaying and replaying so as to form a negative narrative and branding against the target and victim. It is sheer Alinskyist in nature and shame on her. She accuses people of being equivocating "but" monkeys, but she is one of the biggest "but" monkeys out there..."Oh, Herman is a great guy, but HE CANNOT WIN, or HE FLUBS UP, yada yada yada." At least she could make an attempt to disguise her RINO disdain and agenda a little more clearly. Most of us are hep to her tricks and allegiances and are not buying any of it.
They are Republicans first and conservatives when it suits them.
We MUST vanquish them, too.
And, at the end of the day, THERE ARE FAR MORE OF US, THAN THEM.
I hold none of these people in any sacrosanct way, when they behave in this manner. They are all expendable (politically) in my book as far as I am concerned, conservative or not, eloquent or not, loved by millions or not. They will NOT TELL ME WHO TO VOTE FOR on their national shows, by inference nor by innuendo.
How could ANYBODY have a come-back to that, f_r. Brilliant. Funny. And TRUE. Point well taken. Herman Cain is in fact a stellar thinker of a man, not only w/ high level 49 dimensional chess class, but also common sense, with clear and digestible language for the average person out there. Truly carrying the Ronald Reagan message of hope 30 years later to a wounded nation.
Just one problem. Republican voters in general are not as informed as are FReepers. Many decide who they will vote for based on what they hear on shows like Hannity, Ingraham, etc. So these talking heads do and will have an influence on who Republicans vote for in the primaries. It’s a sad state of affairs but it is true. We just have to hope we can defeat them and their efforts.
Good. The media WILL NOT pick our candidate for us this time.
I just read that she dated Bob Torricelli. Nuff said. Should have been a tip off for Coulter as well when she dated Bill Maher.
But a Cain White House not nearly half as much fun. In fact he has said he will work out a much more common man approach and cut out a lot of the D.C. parties because of the unsustainability of costs, etc.
It is an exclusive "club" kind of thing. Cain is not part of that whole scene. A pure outsider. A lot of these "conservative" talking heads on the radio are (in the inner circle, incestuous schmoozers equally with Dems and Repubs). Therein I think lies the gap and loyalties. Some might well want to go back into government, and a Romney Administration would be the clearest land bridge into that effort as well. There are certainly deeper personal interests here at stake.
It’s called the DNC/RNC/ROVE/PERRY/ROMNEY/NEWT/OBAMA/MSM/INGIRM/HANNITY establishment cabal.... it’s all a set up... the elitist ruling class denying the average Joe the right to vote for whom they have chosen.
I agree. I’m done with Laura.
A friend in DC who sees her at the gym says she’s nasty anyway.
And yet another reference to the sadly ovehyped “Iowa University poll”. where 15 people definitely said they supported cain, while 12 said they supported Ron Paul and 10 said they supported ROmney.
Never have so few people made such a great impact in terms of regurgitating an otherwise forgettable poll.
I’ve had my last day of listening to the ever annoying voice of Ms.Ingraham. She used to have a good show. and to my knowledge, she used to be Conservative. Alas, she has gone all Rove on us..but more than that, she’s become downright unlikable bitter and mean...
They (0bama & Democrats) are even more frightened of this!!! If Herman Cain wins the POTUS nomination and runs with Marco Rubio for VP, the results will be:
- White voters for Cain/Rubio = 61%
- Black voters for Cain/Rubio = 30%
- Hispanic voters for Cain/Rubio = 30%
Election results = Obama devastatingly defeated, Democrat Party virtually destroyed at the polls.
Results for the country = equality, freedom, liberty, education, opportunity for all individuals who stress individual effort and hard work!!!
That would be a very very good ticket IMHO.
Obama said there were 57 states, Newt spoke with Nancy Pelosi about stopping the threat of global warming, Perry forgot his own plan. Haters use these incidents to discredit a candidate they already dislike. The truth is Herman gives us the best chance to win. I like Newt, his knowledge of the political landscape, but he lacks appeal outside of our base. Anyone who knows politics will tell you appeal trumps substance 90% of the time. Herman Cain has both. Unless we want a repeat of 2008, we better take the horse blinders off. A tidal wave of demographics is coming, and unless we begin to take advantage of competent, conservative minorities, we will forever become a fringe element. We cannot continue to lose 75% of the minority vote - a segment of the population which is by far outgrowing traditional white America - our fall will be inevitable. Leaders like Herman Cain, Allen West and Marco Rubio represent true opportunity and change. Newt is extremely capable - though he’s not a true conservative - but that’s not the issue. He will be stereotyped as the old, boring, elitist Republican. And it’s only a matter of time before the MSM airs his dirty laundry...flip flops, extra marital affairs, etc. This notion that Newt win will the presidency solely by debating Obama is fiction. Obama will only agree to several debates, of which, he will throw out a few empty but memorable barbs which the leftist media will repeatedly air to spin as a draw. The rest of the time he will have to find a way to appeal to America, independents, and disenfranchised Democrats. Charisma and energy are not his strong attributes; being part of the establishment is. This isn’t about personal choices, it’s about choosing the candidate who gives us the best chance to win in November. Will we learn?
I’ve never witnessed so many conservatives - Tea Party patriots or Republicans - attack one of our own. I’m not talking about a RINO, but an actual conservative in Herman Cain. Sure, he has made mistakes, but I can show you a laundry list of flip flops, gaffes, and/or poor choices by EVERY candidate. Leaders like Cain, Allen West & Marco Rubio stand the best chance of bridging the gap of this oncoming demographic tidal wave and keeping conservatism from becoming a fringe element. If someone is not your personal preference, so be it, but maliciously spreading propaganda from politico and the MSM is just ridiculous. So not only do we eat our own but now we’re their puppets?
We all cried foul when the media systematically destroyed Sarah Palin; and she made a number of gaffes...some seemingly quite silly or elementary. Regardless, we rallied around her because we believed in her overall potential, her philosophy, not because she was un or misinformed about several issues. Yet a majority of people were ready to make her president.
Has she ever ripped Mittens? Or is she with Coulter and Malkin on his side?
If the Republican “party” ends up evicerating their core by getting Romney (read: ObamaLite) in there and losing to the worst president we’ve ever had, then expect that in 2016, we will see Democrat, Republican, Tea Party and the Republicans will settle back to 3rd place. They seem to like being the losers so they can whine about it. The problem is, those of us in fly-over country are tired of it.
“...Regardless, we rallied around her because we believed in her overall potential, her philosophy, not because she was un or misinformed about several issues...”
SPot on brother. Well said.
“If someone is not your personal preference, so be it, but maliciously spreading propaganda from politico and the MSM is just ridiculous. So not only do we eat our own but now were their puppets?..”
That is why I absolutely refuse to get into the sh*t-slinging going on out here. Tired of it.
At the end of the day, the Libs, if they have their way, would see us ALL in gas chambers and re-education camps. We should not help them in that end goal - because, from their own mouths, it IS their end goal (see Bill Ayers’ comments to undercover agent Larry Gratwohl - ETL, pinging you here).
Be the point, or be the six, but recognize who the REAL enemy is and kick THEIR arses - not our own.
“...We cannot continue to lose 75% of the minority vote - a segment of the population which is by far outgrowing traditional white America ...”
We can’t lose something we never had, brother. And they’re outgrowing white America because we let the enemy convince our women to ignore their maternal instincts and murder their own children and call it a “choice”.
“We cant lose something we never had, brother. And theyre outgrowing white America because we let the enemy convince our women to ignore their maternal instincts and murder their own children and call it a choice.”
If conservativism is a ‘white philosophy’, it DESERVES to die.
Let’s own up to it, the problem isn’t conservativism, but that WHITE PEOPLE suck at being conservatives.
If anybody wants to call me racist so be it. I’m white, I call it as I see it.
Hmmmm....they all seem to have something in common....FoxNews. And who is FNC in the tank for? That's right, boys and girls...can you say Mittens?
“..If conservativism is a white philosophy, it DESERVES to die...”
Nobody ever said it was “white philosophy”. And even if it WAS, it doesn’t “deserve” to die. It’s a valid way of living your life that’s proven successful. If more whites than others happen to live that way it doesn’t discredit it. It’s a choice that one group makes. And not all white believe it - as evidenced by a black liberal becoming President.
Liberalism, on the other hand, is the culture of death, subservience, insanity, and dependency. If anything deserves to fall by the wayside, it’s liberalism.
“...WHITE PEOPLE suck at being conservatives...”
Maybe some do. Most don’t. Can’t paint everybody with that brush, brother.
“..If anybody wants to call me racist so be it. Im white, I call it as I see it...”
I’m white too. It’s not racist to point out facts, unless people want race to be THE issue. They’re the true “racists” as I see it, because they have no valid argument or they have some other stake in the furtherance of racial greivances (e.g., Jesse Jackson, Sharpton, etc.).
The minority vote has gone to the Dems because they’ve been very successful at inculcating the idea that they’re the party of “the little guy” - all the while making certain that groups of people always THOUGHT of themselves as nothing more than “the little guy”, and setting the economic and political bar to further that idea.
Add to that the communist indoctrination and other bullshit, and you have a custom made instant conflict.
I call it as I see it too, brother. We’re on the same side. No beef with you on this.
Well, I wasn’t arguing with you. Just posting a concurrance.
Conservatism just works as a way to live your life that is superior to other ways, and works just as well for white people as for anyone else.
If black people, hispanic people want to give themselves and their kids a head start in life, you want to be as conservative as possible.
Her sister-in-rinoism Ann Coulter is worse.
I do not denigrate any of the republican candidates except Romney. Paul and Huntsman aren't worth the effort.
“..Well, I wasnt arguing with you...”
Didn’t think you were, actually. But thanks.
I know some black and hispanic folks who are as conservative as I am, and they didn’t vote for Obama (these folks are coworkers of mine, retired military, and dear friends). You wouldn’t believe the bullshit they put up with from family and others about not voting for Obi.
“Conservatism just works as a way to live your life that is superior to other ways, and works just as well for white people as for anyone else...”
“I know some black and hispanic folks who are as conservative as I am, and they didnt vote for Obama (these folks are coworkers of mine, retired military, and dear friends). You wouldnt believe the bullshit they put up with from family and others about not voting for Obi.”
I can believe it. I have a disability, and it’s similar for us. Anyone who actually rejects disability benefits to which they are entitled is shunned by the entire ‘industry’, because I am demonstrating that I don’t need them. If I don’t need them, then perhaps the rest of the disabled folks don’t either.
And believe me, the whole disability industry is a huge backer of the O.
I am not sure that is really true. I believe that they may want to keep a non-establishment conservative out even more than they want to defeat Obama.
If conservatives don't take over the party through committee chairmanship, and eventual leadership, this crap will continue.
It took Reagan several tries before he succeeded, and he was lots better than the current crop of candidates. I still have hope, but ain't holding my breath either.
We have a lot of work to do...
Just as the other side has been so thoroughly organized for the deconstruction of the country, we need to be even MORE organized, committed, and dedicated to wresting it away from them, education folks, and rebuilding it.
We inherited a pretty damned wonderful place to live...I think we owe it to our kids, and to all those excellent Americans who came before us, to set things right.
ANy way we have to.
Thanks for the ping!!!
Fellow Cain supporters, try and see if you can do calling or anything for Iowa. Not you, AIT, for phone calling anyway. Herman needs to momentum he will get from winning Iowa. It will help him win SC.
” Like THEIR current Soros Shoeshine Boy is a genius, right? That feckless Douchebag is L-O-S-T without a teleprompter and his Marxist handler du jour writing out his canned propaganda for him.
Herman is a giant middle finger to the left, isnt he...and they HATE him for it.”
And we love him for it!
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