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Explaining last gaffe, Cain stumbles again
The Hill ^ | 11/18/11 | Jonathan Easley

Posted on 11/18/2011 3:20:27 PM PST by mdittmar

GOP presidential hopeful Herman Cain committed another potentially damaging foreign policy gaffe on Friday, when he inferred that the Taliban posed a threat to the Libyan government.

Speaking at a press conference in Orlando, Cain was defending his performance in front of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel’s editorial board earlier this week, in which he searched for words and sat in awkward silence after being asked if he agreed with the Obama administration’s policy towards Libya.

“Do I agree with siding with the opposition? Do I agree with saying that Qadhafi should go? Do I agree that they now have a country where you've got Taliban and Al Qaeda that's going to be part of the government?” Cain asked reporters. “Do I agree with not knowing the government was going to — which part was he asking me about? I was trying to get him to be specific and he wouldn't be specific.”

The Taliban is an Islamist militant group based in Afghanistan and Pakistan, while Libya is in northern Africa.

It’s the latest in a series of foreign policy stumbles for the candidate.

In October, Cain said it wasn’t important to know who was “the president of Ubeki-beki-beki-stan.” And in the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel interview, Cain said he couldn’t recall Obama’s position on Libya because he had “all of this stuff twirling around in my head.”

Cain has responded to the criticism by saying he would surround himself with worthwhile advisers to help him out with foreign policy, and that voters didn’t expect him to know everything because “we need a leader, not a reader.”


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To: mdittmar

Cain should make this his campaign song for his detractors:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBBm2x6nKIo


51 posted on 11/18/2011 4:13:15 PM PST by parksstp (Articulate Conservatives look for Converts. RINO's look for Democrat Heretics.)
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To: over3Owithabrain

Come on now... I did you throw you all a bone. I indicated there wasn’t a lot of there there with this gaffe...

Actually - unbeknownst to me - whe went the same University. Wonder how that reflect on my old alma mater? His field of study was even relatively in the same neck of the wood with mine. I’ll give him credit. He did get his Masters. I haven’t found the motivation yet.


52 posted on 11/18/2011 4:17:20 PM PST by TBBT
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To: Mountain Mary
WAIT. WHAT?

53 posted on 11/18/2011 4:28:24 PM PST by Bobalu (More rubble, less trouble)
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To: TBBT

Anotherwords he is smarter and more successful than you. ‘Course that is obvious just from reading your childish drivel.


54 posted on 11/18/2011 4:30:05 PM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: parksstp

LOL... Nope, I don’t think I will.

The Cain folks make me laugh with their constant excuses for even the tiniest of things. If Cain farted in a room, his supporters would either take credit for the fart.... or argue that although it might indeed be a fart, it did smell like lilac and it was the sign and scent of a true leader.

As I had already indicated, this was not a big deal. I hate the media as much as anyone does. I hate the nitpicking of each of our candidates.


55 posted on 11/18/2011 4:34:20 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~.. Newt/West 2012.“I’ve got a lot swirling around in my head.”)
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To: over3Owithabrain
Great post.
It's one thing to support another candidate but it seems we have a group of Sheeple Freepers who are obsessed with jumping on every Herman Cain thread to regurgitate the mantra of the media and elitist GOP establishment.
Cain is a guy who against all odds became a self made American success story and now has reached the top tier of the GOP Presidential race by the virtue of a bare bones grassroots campaign. Most Conservatives should at least respect that whether they support him or not. Each of the GOP candidates have legitimate issues that some of us may disagree with, but I don't think many of us are in a position to question their intelligence.
56 posted on 11/18/2011 4:35:57 PM PST by 07Jack
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To: mdittmar

I’m sure the bozos at the Journal have no idea of the role that Maronite Patriarch Beshara Rai played in his recent meeting with French President Sarkozy, or how Rai calmed the volatile Lebanese situation between the Shiites and Sunnis concerning the UN’s STL.

Concoct a 700-word essay on that, you 30 IQ journalist frauds. You have three seconds - Go!

Damn gotcha fraudsters.


57 posted on 11/18/2011 4:37:34 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: parksstp

LOL... I liked it, but the line, “I’m making love to whoever I please” might not go over to well. LOL


58 posted on 11/18/2011 4:37:47 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~.. Newt/West 2012.“I’ve got a lot swirling around in my head.”)
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To: Cicero

NOW! After he had a chance to brush up on the news!


59 posted on 11/18/2011 4:40:37 PM PST by firebrand (It's almost too late.)
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To: parksstp

I get a kick how one of our former Git-mo prisoners captured in Pakistan (and fought in Afghanistan) was/is one of the leaders in the Libyan revolution. I guess those 6 years in Gitmo didn’t rehabilitate him from his Islamic power-hungry ways.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/foreign-policy/7251-former-guantanamo-prisoner-now-us-ally-in-libya


60 posted on 11/18/2011 4:40:41 PM PST by 21twelve ("We can go from boom to bust, from dreams to a bowl of dust....and another lost generation.")
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To: over3Owithabrain

Smarter? That’s relative. We all have our specialties.

Based on Cain’s demonstrated grasp of foreign policy - when it comes to specialties - it’s clear that this is not one of Cain’s. Even the most casual FR visitor appears to outperform Cain in this area. Cain’s depth in other areas - relevant to the office he seeks - is also suspect.


61 posted on 11/18/2011 4:47:40 PM PST by TBBT
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62 posted on 11/18/2011 4:52:38 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: 07Jack

Sorry, i like Herman as much as the next guy, but “We need a leader, not a reader” is not a winning campaign slogan. I mean... he’s ripping off lines from the Simpsons movie!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afMsXWRWbOk

And offering a 90 year old man the position of Secretary of State (and then saying you were kidding lately (when you clearly weren’t) when called on it) isn’t the best staffing plan. He’s making some mistakes that are really making me question his overall judgement.

Cain’s handlers are clearly letting him down.


63 posted on 11/18/2011 4:56:48 PM PST by bigdaddy45
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To: mdittmar

I love a candidate who, like me, is unable to discern a taliban from a libyan jihadist. I just see a gleeful idiot with a sword who wants to cut off the head of anyone he comes across that he doesn’t like.

When I see a candidate have no interest in islam but a healthy skepticism of it, that’s how I know the candidate is not secretly making back room deals and trying to be friendly with it.

Hopefully Cain will be elected and we can start packing up islam and sending it back from whence it came.

Better this is done right now rather than later, or will will see the bloodiest civil war in history right here in America between islam and everyone else once islam gains enough power here and starts to persecute non-muslims as it has in every other nation where it was present in numbers sufficient to do so.

I’d say Cain was the best candidate regarding being vigilantly protective of Jews and Christians.

IMHO.


64 posted on 11/18/2011 4:58:00 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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To: PieterCasparzen
I love a candidate who, like me, is unable to discern a taliban from a libyan jihadist. I just see a gleeful idiot with a sword who wants to cut off the head of anyone he comes across that he doesn’t like.

Exactly, it's like saying "The Peoples' Front of Judea" instead of the "Judean Peoples' Front."

65 posted on 11/18/2011 5:00:36 PM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: CitizenM

I think that Cain understands better than most what has happened with Libya because technically the Taliban and Al-Qaedia are linked at the hip since 10/2001. They did appear on the battle field and that is when Obama started supporting Libya with air support.

His failing is not in his knowledge but in his answering of the questions in a cognitive strong authoritative manner.
I am beginning to suspect that the grind of a campaign trail is wearing on him. Some life long politicians are up to the task and even thrive on that type of environment. - But being a new comer, I think sadly he is just exhausted and his head is spinning to be honest.


66 posted on 11/18/2011 5:23:22 PM PST by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: TomGuy

“Where are Cain’s handlers? Where are Cain’s tutors?”

Just what we need, another president who needs handlers and tutors.


67 posted on 11/18/2011 5:26:49 PM PST by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: mdittmar

The folks coming to power in Libya share the goals and beliefs of the Taliban. I agree with Cain...and I’ve done a tour in Afghanistan, so it isn’t like I have no familiarity with foreign affairs.


68 posted on 11/18/2011 5:30:47 PM PST by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
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To: Munz

“But being a new comer, I think sadly he is just exhausted and his head is spinning to be honest.”

Can’t handle the campaign, yet we should trust him to handle “leader of the free world” job?

Cain supporters are grasping at straws, trying to continue to support their candidate, even when they can see that he just isn’t up to the task.

EXPERIENCE MATTERS!


69 posted on 11/18/2011 5:32:02 PM PST by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

The media is frantic to, by hook or crook, to destroy Cain, just as they were Clarence Thomas, just as they are ANY Conservative black candidate. Only, this time, they HAVE to, no matter what. They cannot allow “their” black man, Obama, to fail (never mind he already has and that he has made THEM look irretrievably ignorant in their incessant struggle to cover for his ignorance.)


70 posted on 11/18/2011 5:37:25 PM PST by Twinkie (John 3:16)
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To: DaveyB

He got Taliban confused with Muslim brotherhood. Yes, the DIMocrats have many gaffes, but I want us to be better. I am strongly supporting Cain, but he HAS to get a better preparer.


71 posted on 11/18/2011 5:38:30 PM PST by Eagle of Liberty (Shaking My Head on a daily basis)
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To: DaveyB

He got Taliban confused with Muslim brotherhood. Yes, the DIMocrats have many gaffes, but I want us to be better. I am strongly supporting Cain, but he HAS to get a better preparer.


72 posted on 11/18/2011 5:38:41 PM PST by Eagle of Liberty (Shaking My Head on a daily basis)
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To: DaveyB

He got Taliban confused with Muslim brotherhood. Yes, the DIMocrats have many gaffes, but I want us to be better. I am strongly supporting Cain, but he HAS to get a better preparer.


73 posted on 11/18/2011 5:39:13 PM PST by Eagle of Liberty (Shaking My Head on a daily basis)
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To: bigdaddy45
LOL. You know earlier in the campaign it was reported he borrowed a line from a Pokeman movie. So this Simpsons incident shouldn't be surprising. Seriously though, I thought he was joking on the Kissinger thing, who knows?? maybe he wasn't. I've watched many of his stump speeches and he does have a dry sense of humor and enjoys using it. Anyhow, I certainly respect your earnest opinion and agree that Cain's handlers could be doing a better job. In the general election, I'll support whoever gets the GOP nomination. However, I'm sticking with Cain in the Primaries. My biggest issue is solving the nation's fiscal mess so that my children's generation will not be burdened with the consequences of my generation's indulgences. I think Cain offers the strongest dose of medicine in that regard.
74 posted on 11/18/2011 5:40:56 PM PST by 07Jack
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To: mdittmar
The Taliban is an Islamist militant group based in Afghanistan and Pakistan, while Libya is in northern Africa.

Thanks for the geography lesson, Mr. Easley, but what makes you think they couldn't travel, if they felt like it?

75 posted on 11/18/2011 5:49:08 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: mdittmar
when he inferred that the Taliban posed a threat to the Libyan government.

He didn't "infer", if anything, he "implied". Dumb ass writer and his "gaffes".

76 posted on 11/18/2011 7:47:07 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Of course Obama loves his country but Herman Cain loves mine.)
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To: over3Owithabrain

How RUDE! Your comment was totally called for.


77 posted on 11/18/2011 8:04:17 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Promise: If Cain fails, I'll vote for NO GOP Nominee in 2012 if he/she had a hand in The Cain Smear)
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To: mdittmar
And in the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel interview, Cain said he couldn’t recall Obama’s position on Libya...

I watched the entire 35 min video. He did NOT say he couldn't recall Obama's position.

He was clarifying WHAT question the guy was asking him. The guy had asked if Cain agreed/disagreed with what Obama had done in Libya - but they guy hadn't said what exactly he meant. Did he mean Obama sent a basket of cookies to support the opposition? Or did he mean that Obama has supported the assassination of a foreign head of state? The question was not clear. Cain was clarifying by asking the guy questions.

78 posted on 11/18/2011 8:58:28 PM PST by BagCamAddict (If Perry had been asked about the Cain 999 plan, he would have said: 9, 9, .......what?)
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To: mdittmar

they both hate and kill americans...

nuff said.

YES WE CAIN

teeman


79 posted on 11/18/2011 11:30:45 PM PST by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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To: faucetman

>“But being a new comer, I think sadly he is just exhausted and his head is spinning to be honest.”

Can’t handle the campaign, yet we should trust him to handle “leader of the free world” job?

Cain supporters are grasping at straws, trying to continue to support their candidate, even when they can see that he just isn’t up to the task.

EXPERIENCE MATTERS!<

Firstly, I think that experience does matter as you pointed out. But experience on a campaign trail and experience in the role of being the president are two different things as we learned with Obama. They are not tied at the hip.

Obama a great campaigner, is so far over his head as a leader he can’t make any decisions at all. He needs a toilet and a Totus czar.

If it is just the pace, he will pick it up. I am sure that if that is all it is he can recover quite easily.

Something has happened to Cain in the past week or two, it *may* be exhaustion or it may be more than that. I suspect that it is a lot more. I believe that something has happened that rattled his cage in a mighty way that requires secret service protection now. It was reported that he received threats. Depending on what happened and to who it happened (ie. his family) he may be really rattled. Face it, Cain is probably really that last person Obama wants to go up against.
And it is not beyond Obama to have people do unconscionable things to try and frighten off his competition.

So you can turn off the caps and stop trying to belittle other people’s points of view.


80 posted on 11/19/2011 5:22:02 PM PST by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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81 posted on 11/19/2011 5:22:54 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: BenKenobi
The taliban are associated with the new Libyan government.

Yep. The Muslim Brotherhood ties AlQaida, Hizb'allah, and Hamas into the the new Libyan mix, to name a few.

82 posted on 11/19/2011 6:08:36 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: BagCamAddict

That is exactly how I saw that part of the interview too.


83 posted on 11/19/2011 10:36:00 PM PST by Yooper4Life (They all lie.)
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To: BagCamAddict

Fortunately, conservatives generally see through the deceit of the democrat fifth column media. Herman Cain has more substance than the media want him to have, so they make up lies to try and raise his negatives in polls. They care not a whit about the man or his conservatism because they work for a certain master who is a known father of lies.


84 posted on 11/19/2011 10:39:44 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: mdittmar

Johnathan Easley is an idiot....Cain is right about this.


85 posted on 11/19/2011 10:47:02 PM PST by CAluvdubya (Herman Cain Can!)
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To: Mygirlsmom

Obama has the bar set so low that comparing Cain to Obama in anyway or fashion makes Cain look Worse. Better to compare Cain to the candidates he’s up against now.


86 posted on 11/19/2011 11:50:53 PM PST by caww
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To: mdittmar
Cain doesn’t need any handlers,he is doing fine.

He's not doing fine, and need them or not he does have them.

87 posted on 11/19/2011 11:54:02 PM PST by caww
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To: 07Jack
Most Conservatives should at least respect that whether they support him or not.

Most conservatives do respect that....but being a supposedly successful businessman doesn't necessarily mean one is suited well for President...and that's what the primary is about...who is and who isn't and those who fall inbetween.

88 posted on 11/19/2011 11:58:04 PM PST by caww
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