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Why Newt's Surge Will Continue
American Thinker ^ | 11/17/11 | C. Edmund Wright

Posted on 11/18/2011 3:54:43 PM PST by jageorge72

Newt Gingrich's stumble out of the campaign gate -- causing him to lose his top advisors to Rick Perry -- might well be the best thing that has ever happened to his political career. That, along with his debate performances and a handful of other circumstances, explains why the former speaker of the House is now surging in the polls and why it is likely to continue.

And yes -- those are the words of one who has written Newt off for good on more than one occasion. And for what surely seemed like good reasons.

But those reasons seem long past now, as the former speaker has proven himself a far superior advocate to anyone else running of what it is that animates us on the conservative side. And it is this ability -- combined with our craving for someone who has this ability in light of the inarticulate Bush-McCain years -- that has convinced many to take a second, third, fourth, or fifth look at a man many of us had given up on. Yes, we know that Newt has not always acted like a conservative, and yes, he tends toward being an incessant government tinkerer. Yes, some of those marital issues are troubling, as was NY-23 and the David Gregory/Paul Ryan thing and most of all...the Pelosi global warming thing. Yes, we get all that.

Yet, even so, the daydream of Gingrich debating Obama on a stage bigger than merely the presidential contest is something more and more Tea Party folks and others are publicly fessin' up to sharing. Admit it: you were giving Newt a second look long before you dared say so out loud or post it on a message board.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; election; gingrich; newt
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To: samtheman

I agree. I want Obama humiliated, groveling, and curled up in a fetal position. I want him to be revealed as the fraud and imposter that he is and I want it done in front of everyone on national t.v. I want Mr. Fifty-seven States to become an object of ridicule. Only Gingrich can do that. It would be fun to watch.


51 posted on 11/18/2011 4:41:22 PM PST by WestSylvanian
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To: Bobalu

Great freakin post. And worth repeating. That’s exactly how I feel.

“Newt strikes me as a sort of Benjamin Franklin type.

Very smart, speaks well, loves the ladies, portly, plays with ideas on both sides of the political spectrum, makes money from affiliations with the government (post office in Franklin’s case).

When the chips were down and it was time to choose Franklin sided against the crown and was a patriot.

Although far from perfect I think Newt would do whatever was needed to help us prosper. I don’t think he would ever fail to come to the aid of Israel either.

We could do worse...much worse :-(
like Mitt...just ewww”


52 posted on 11/18/2011 4:42:21 PM PST by Raebie (WS)
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To: jageorge72

Because polls are manufactured marketing tools?


53 posted on 11/18/2011 4:43:11 PM PST by Mechanicos (Why does the DOE have a SWAT Team?)
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To: jageorge72

Newt won’t surge. He’ll become the anti Romney, anti Obama candidate. People will vote for him because he’s not those two and the country will continue it’s slide into the abyss. Newt is the poster boy for what is wrong with the federal government and the GOP.


54 posted on 11/18/2011 4:46:04 PM PST by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: jageorge72
Did Newt make millions of dollars helping to market socialism to Republicans?

It seems to me that is what his company was hired to do. He was quite willing to work against conservative principles as long as the price was right. I guess thats what ‘Intellectual’ conservatives do.

55 posted on 11/18/2011 4:47:38 PM PST by Tramonto (9 9 9)
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To: jageorge72

I posted this earlier, I’m gonna post it again.

The Newt we know. EXACTLY.
Ya know what? I am supporting Newt 100% until he wins or drops out. I don’t care if he is accused of fondling boys 20-30 years ago. I don’t care if Newt put his hand up some woman’s skirt. I don’t care that he sat on a couch with Pelosi. I don’t care about whatever scandal comes along, legit or phony.

I have had it with the news media, through their scandal mongering, choosing our candidate. WHY ARE WE LISTENING TO THEM? Why are we listening to the country club Republicans?

Almost all accusations can be explained or forgiven. Many are just plain lies! We have to STOP playing along with the media and trashing our own candidates.

Newt’s company made millions from consulting. WHO CARES? If he hadn’t, how much more money would you have in your pocket? NOT A CENT.

THE PAST is just that, PASSED. I only care what Newt says from now on. I want to hire him to do a JOB. That is it! For this “time” he is the best man for the job. Baggage, Smaggage, I DON’T CARE! WHAT IS HE SAYING NOW? WHAT IS HE DOING NOW? That is what matters. What are his ideas for fixing our country. What executive orders will he sign within the hour of being sworn in? (Newt.org).

It is time to quit SCREWING AROUND and get behind Newt.

Face it, Romney & Newt are the choices. Cain is DONE. Perry is DONE. The rest are nowhere. Many here say they don’t like Newt, but would not hesitate to vote for him if he were the nominee. Instead of beating him up ( the left, media, and RINOs will keep doing that), let’s rally around Newt. Let’s get this party started. All attacks from now on to be against OBAMA.

Newt isn’t the lesser of two evils, he’s just the best man for the job, from the field we have to choose from.

Newt can WIN. Obama’s worst nightmare.....debating Newt. Newt will show moderates, independents, and democrats just how STUPID Obama really is. (Conservatives already know this)


56 posted on 11/18/2011 4:49:20 PM PST by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: samtheman

And then what?


57 posted on 11/18/2011 4:51:46 PM PST by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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To: jageorge72

I don’t think there are many who could disagree with this:

When Newt walks into a room, the collective IQ goes up.


58 posted on 11/18/2011 4:54:11 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: org.whodat

oh man,...you again.

you never miss a Gingrich thread do you?


59 posted on 11/18/2011 4:54:11 PM PST by Hammerhead
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To: Bobalu

Excellent comment. He is a lot like B. Franklin.


60 posted on 11/18/2011 4:56:13 PM PST by Reagan69 (I supported Sarah Palin and all I got was a lousy DVD !)
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To: over3Owithabrain
He doesn’t mean a word of it.

I bet Newt means this:

New Newt is conciliatory, even bipartisan. In several debates, he's refused to criticize his rivals and has scolded moderators for — gasp! — trying to accentuate their differences. As president, he told voters in Iowa, one his first acts would be to reach out to Democrats.

"It's become much too partisan in both parties," said the man who has been accused of destroying the bipartisan tradition in the House of Representatives.

61 posted on 11/18/2011 4:56:48 PM PST by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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To: freekitty

If you elect Newt; don’t come crying when he makes decisions you don’t like. It will happen.

It’s to bad the country lets the wrong people vote for them.

_______________-——_______

You know what, they’re all going to let us down at some point.

VIGILANCE !


62 posted on 11/18/2011 4:58:45 PM PST by Reagan69 (I supported Sarah Palin and all I got was a lousy DVD !)
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To: jageorge72

Great article & dead on indeed! Here’s a couple of things in the article that really made a lot of sense:

“By contrast, we are also reminded why we have dreaded every presidential debate since Reagan-Mondale. We haven’t had a yes! moment in these things since Reagan, and we desperately need one.”

Aint that the freaking truth!

“But it goes deeper than just those moments. The campaign debates of 2012 will be definitive moments in our national conversation. I think many instinctively know this. We will have on display some spokesperson for conservatism debating Obama and the Occupy America vision. It will impact perhaps every race in 2012. And many are now saying out loud what they’ve been whispering for months.”

This is the thing I’ve been wondering a lot about lately. Who will have the best chance of coat tails? This may be as important as the presidential election itself. It’s imperative we retake the senate & add to the house.

Regardless of his “baggage”, Newt will be on conservative point for the entire cycle & will not waiver or lose focus. His message will be the conservative message & one that the entire party can rally around, including those running for congress. Newt will set the standard for the rest of the party to follow.

Cain is the only other candidate who could accomplish this, however, only on domestic issues. Cain will also have a hard time navigating the landmines set forth by the MSM. Newt knows the landmines & thus I feel will have longer coat tails.

Gingrich/Cain? Wow!


63 posted on 11/18/2011 4:59:21 PM PST by Confab
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To: samtheman

I did not mean likability is the only factor, it is just more important than many others, of course. My guess is 75% of voters do not spend more than 2 to 3 hours TOTAL studying various candidates on issues before they vote. People visiting sites such as this are much more informed. But most voters are not.


64 posted on 11/18/2011 5:00:53 PM PST by federal__reserve (What matters in 2012 is jobs, jobs, jobs! Jobs kill unemployment, foreclosures & deficits)
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To: samtheman

I did not mean likability is the only factor, it is just more important than many others, of course. My guess is 75% of voters do not spend more than 2 to 3 hours TOTAL studying various candidates on issues before they vote. People visiting sites such as this are much more informed. But most voters are not.


65 posted on 11/18/2011 5:01:01 PM PST by federal__reserve (What matters in 2012 is jobs, jobs, jobs! Jobs kill unemployment, foreclosures & deficits)
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To: Hammerhead
Why don't you try laying off the personal stuff.
66 posted on 11/18/2011 5:03:46 PM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: samtheman
I have also decided not to try to push him here in FR. You’ll get no argument from me. I understand that you don’t like him and I accept that.

The truth of the matter is that NO Republican candidate is good enough for many of the types who inhabit FR. These are people who brook not even the slightest hint of a shading of difference between their worldview and that of others. If even a miniscule difference exists, the other person immediately becomes not just someone with whom there is a disagreement, but becomes a viscerally hated enemy. Problem is, that kind of absolutely perfect meshing of two people's opinions to beyond the nth degree simply doesn't exist in this world. Probably not in the next either.

Yet, in perpetual search for such an impossible candidate, too many people are willing to toss aside important considerations for the first Joe or Jane who comes along and mouths what they want to hear.

67 posted on 11/18/2011 5:04:53 PM PST by Wolfstar
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To: freedomfiter2

Newt won’t surge. He’ll become the anti Romney, anti Obama candidate. People will vote for him because he’s not those two and the country will continue it’s slide into the abyss. Newt is the poster boy for what is wrong with the federal government and the GOP.

-— ==== ====

Newt is greatly gifted as an eloquent speaker and the best debater I have ever seen. People are flocking to him now because of these skills. He is so good, in fact, they are willing to overlook tons of baggage. Truth be told most people have a lot of baggage.


68 posted on 11/18/2011 5:05:35 PM PST by Reagan69 (I supported Sarah Palin and all I got was a lousy DVD !)
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To: parisa

What’s the evidence for saying the debate stage matters more than ever?

Maybe in the primaries this cycle, but I sure don’t see that in the general.

Why? Because Obama is the most polarizing President in history.

No one who supports Obama/Dems is going to give a rat’s behind how Obama performs in the debates. They are going to vote for him.

No one who supports defeating Obama by voting for the anyone-but-Obama GOP nominee is going to give a rat’s behind how the GOP nominee performs in the debates.

And if the argument is based on the mushy middle — well, we all know where that gets you.

And first, there just aren’t many people who aren’t in one camp or the other. The entire nation has been galvanized by Obamacare and the economy; most people have decided whether they want Obama in or out in 2012, that much they know.

Anyone who hasn’t made up their mind yet on that question just isn’t paying attention. And people who aren’t paying attention now, sure as hell are not the types to watch presidential debates and make up their mind based solely, or even mostly, on those.

Listen closely and most people pushing the debates as a reason for a particular candidate just want the sheer joy of watching Obama maybe get his butt kicked.

That might be a fun spectacle, but it’s not going to change a significant number of votes, IMO.

In fact, if Newt whups up on Obama, it’s likely to increase voter intensity in his base, particularly among those Dems who absolutely HATED Newt back when he was Speaker.

There are a lot of those Dems still around. They’re going to have the same reaction as Republicans would if, 15 years from now the Dems nominated Nancy Pelosi. They think we would forget and not be motivated by how we regarded her during her tenure as Speaker?


69 posted on 11/18/2011 5:08:57 PM PST by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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To: Wolfstar

>> The truth of the matter is that NO Republican candidate is good enough for many of the types who inhabit FR >>

And many of them hide behind their supposed Biblical principles to justify that attitude as well. Which is ironic, since almost everyone used by God was deeply deeply flawed.


70 posted on 11/18/2011 5:09:36 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: WestSylvanian

Try making a list of all the position’s on different issues that have been taken by gramnesty and mccain, then make a list for newt and see where the differ. You will find they are three birds of a feather, reach across the isles and compromise. They compromise and you pay, wonderful.


71 posted on 11/18/2011 5:11:29 PM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: Rashputin

Can I steal that and put that in an email?


72 posted on 11/18/2011 5:13:59 PM PST by Raebie (WS)
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To: fightinJAG
All very good common sense facts, but many of the fools here don't understand common sense facts.
73 posted on 11/18/2011 5:14:21 PM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: samtheman

I too would love to see Newt “shred” Obama, but that won’t get him the nomination.

I have donated to Newt. I like Newt. I just don’t think Newt can win the nomination let alone the Presidency.

Newt has one fatal flaw: he is an intellectual and intellectuals are simply not very inspiring or likable.

I don’t get the “Newt is a RINO” talk. He is not a RINO, he led the Republicans back to the majority in the House after 40+ years. He is a DC insider and a serial adulterer, and that will hurt him with some segments of the population, but his “likability” factor is what will hurt him with most.

So while I am all in if Newt gets the nod, I will be shocked if he pulls out the upset in Iowa, New Hampshire or South Carolina.


74 posted on 11/18/2011 5:15:05 PM PST by EagleInGA
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To: samtheman
This election is a full half century after the Kennedy/Nixon debates. In all that time, the importance of debates has grown election by election until now it is key.

I think that's mythology.

Fifty years ago it was very difficult, compared to today, to get a lot of information on candidates or even to see them speak.

Today every little podunk stop a candidate makes is filmed and put up on YouTube. The point is: the more information there is already out there -- and there is exponentially more than ever in the last half-century -- the less any one event makes an impact.

And, as I said upthread, particularly in this cycle, I think the presidential debates are not going to change a single vote. By that time, the country will be even more polarized than it already is, and people will be even more sure that they want Obama out or they don't.

75 posted on 11/18/2011 5:15:37 PM PST by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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To: org.whodat

So, you call some fellow freepers fools. And which of the candidates is your perfect choice again? To whose credit do we apply the negatives you’re purposely generating?


76 posted on 11/18/2011 5:15:53 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: jageorge72

I fail to see how Newt is an improvement over Mitt. Both believe in government as the solution. Newt only talks good, but his heart is with Pelosi and Hillary and other government policy wonks.


77 posted on 11/18/2011 5:17:02 PM PST by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
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To: faucetman
Obummer can go to a debate, screw up and the out come will be the same, you piss the democrats off and they vote four time instead of two.
78 posted on 11/18/2011 5:17:22 PM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: samtheman

Also, the Dems, like the rest of the nation, and especially the Liberal punditry, have already accepted and digested the fact that Obama is actually a terrible speaker and an empty suit debater.

The expectations on him are going to be extremely low.

So not only will no one care (except, as if often pushed, for the entertainment value), no one will even expect Obama NOT to get whupped by whoever the GOP nominee is, even if they put Spongebob in the chair.

Let’s say Obama gets crushed by GOP Nominee. Afterwards, Chris Matthews still says . . . what?


79 posted on 11/18/2011 5:18:24 PM PST by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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To: Raebie
Oh, absolutely, LOL. If that might get someone off the fence use it
80 posted on 11/18/2011 5:18:24 PM PST by Rashputin (Obama stark, raving, mad, and even his security people know it.)
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To: freedomfiter2
So, in the video linked below, what is it in the Gingrich 21st Century Contract that you believe will further the slide? ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_hd23sdf4CE

81 posted on 11/18/2011 5:18:29 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN
Do you agree are disagree with post 69. If you disagree. Tell everyone how.
82 posted on 11/18/2011 5:19:23 PM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: Signalman

And don’t forget him going on an Education Tour in 2009 with Al Sharpton and Arne Duncan to support Obama’s education policies.

And advocating the individual mandate for purchase of health insurance even after he’d entered this race — walking it back ONLY after conservatives severely punished him for it.

And . . . the list goes on.

I do not agree that the fact that Newt is a great debater should determine who our nominee is.


83 posted on 11/18/2011 5:21:24 PM PST by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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To: truthfreedom

I guess Christie’s endorsement of your guy didn’t mean much, eh?


84 posted on 11/18/2011 5:25:07 PM PST by IL1949
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To: federal__reserve

“I did not mean likability is the only factor, it is just more important than many others, of course. My guess is 75% of voters do not spend more than 2 to 3 hours TOTAL studying various candidates on issues before they vote. People visiting sites such as this are much more informed. But most voters are not.”

Well I can tell you this. If these uniformed voters don’t like Obama, they’re gonna love Newt in the debates.


85 posted on 11/18/2011 5:27:48 PM PST by Raebie (WS)
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To: org.whodat

So you don’t want readers to know whom it is you claim to support with the nasty insults you post. Figures


86 posted on 11/18/2011 5:29:27 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
The point they agreed on later was the individual mandate, wasn't it?

Gingrich has been very committed to the individual mandate in health care reform. That was one of the things (along with calling Paul Ryan's plan "right-wing social engineering") that put his candidacy in the toilet early on in the first place.

Newt Gingrich Had Lucrative Health Industry Ties , (one of many articles on this subject):

[snip]

The Center for Health Transformation, which Gingrich founded, raked in millions of dollars from heavy hitters like GE Healthcare and Wellpoint, as first reported by the Washington Post. The group says it does not lobby, but on its website, it touts its ability to build bridges between the federal government and private sector. Among its strengths, the think tank lists its unparalleled “network of allies” in the federal government, states, corporations and hospitals; “coalition building capabilities,” and “media visibility.”

[snip] He has blasted the individual mandate in the Affordable Care Act, saying in a video that he is “completely opposed to the Obamacare mandate on individuals,” and that he “fought it for two and half years at the Center for Health Transformation.” But the group, which Gingrich founded, actually supported imposing a mandate on those who made more than $50,000 per year.

CHT spokeswoman Susan Meyers said the group advocates such a move at the state level, not solutions that are “forced at the federal level” and that Gingrich supports “free market solutions.”

“We believe that any idea that states want to originate, that’s fine,” Meyers told ABC News. “It should be their prerogative if they choose to do that.”

Still, Gingrich hasn’t made that clear. In fact, he criticized opponent Mitt Romney for implementing such a “bureaucratic” mandate in Massachusetts.

87 posted on 11/18/2011 5:34:02 PM PST by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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To: WestSylvanian

But what in the world does that have to do with who should be the next President of the United States?


88 posted on 11/18/2011 5:35:28 PM PST by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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To: MHGinTN
Want a little cheese to go with that whine. And I never made a nasty remark to anyone. How is life in boonescreek anyway.
89 posted on 11/18/2011 5:36:44 PM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: samtheman
Newt has earned his recent gains the hard way, by excelling in the debates. Clear and organized thought will be decisive weapons against the word-woozy media-slathered obama campaign. Just having the right answers won't be near enough, which is why all the other candidates would be toast.

In the most important sense, this election is not about issues at all. It is about what kind of nation we will be--America as we have known it for 235 years, or some corrupt turd world backwater dictatorship. No other candidate is capable of engaging this meta-issue as it needs to be engaged to defeat the combined onslaught of the Left.

Getting caught up in meaningless trivia like the couch picture, or the perfectly legitimate consulting business, routinely lied about here by anti-private sector a-holes, will only insure that the real issue never is addressed--and this country cannot afford that dereliction of duty.

90 posted on 11/18/2011 5:38:41 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: faucetman
Newt will show moderates, independents, and democrats just how STUPID Obama really is. (Conservatives already know this)

EVERYONE either knows this already or does not care.

I'm not going to choose a nominee based on whether or not he can make an infamously stupid, dangerous bumbler "look stupid."

Not only is that not relevant in my book, the task isn't even hard.

I want to know which Newt we're going to get when he wakes up in the White House. I know which Newt will get when he goes out on the debate stage.

91 posted on 11/18/2011 5:38:57 PM PST by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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To: Reagan69
Two patriots (neither perfect...who is?)

92 posted on 11/18/2011 5:40:06 PM PST by Bobalu (More rubble, less trouble)
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To: Wolfstar
The truth of the matter is that NO Republican candidate is good enough for many of the types who inhabit FR.

That's true about some people everywhere.

But what's also true is that, no matter how legitimate the criticism, or how dangerous the weakness, of a candidate, "many of the types who inhabit FR" refuse to engage it and instead blithely dismiss it with "No one's perfect."

The truth is that no one is perfect.

That doesn't mean we pretend everyone is equally imperfect (politically or personally), therefore any discussion of their imperfections is not necessary or relevant.

93 posted on 11/18/2011 5:48:16 PM PST by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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To: samtheman

You are right. However, I do like him; I just don’t trust him. I admire his knowledge of the constitution.; he just didn’t carry the water on the contract with america and his past is indicating he will not be the conservative we need.


94 posted on 11/18/2011 5:50:19 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Raebie

My disclaimer: I will vote for any GOP nominee, even if it is Ron Paul. The debates between Obama & Newt will be a doosie. (that word comes from the terrific car of yesteryear the Dusenberg) However keep in mind, the only candidate the left hates more than Newt is Sarah. So expect them to come out of the woodwork to vote for Obama. The blacks will break 95%+ for Obama.


95 posted on 11/18/2011 5:54:45 PM PST by federal__reserve (What matters in 2012 is jobs, jobs, jobs! Jobs kill unemployment, foreclosures & deficits)
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To: EagleInGA
What you said.

I've actually begun to think that the Dems may have even settled in to wanting Newt as the nominee.

Some may say then why are they going to run Newt through the wringer? Answer: They know many conservatives already feel they have no other choice, so roughing up Newt may lead to their dream scenario (a third party) and will certainly depress turn-out and GOP voter intensity.

In the meantime, Newt is the ONLY candidate who would never in a million years peel off any votes from the Democrats:

# 31.

96 posted on 11/18/2011 5:56:19 PM PST by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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To: Raebie

Uninformed voters don’t even watch the debates.


97 posted on 11/18/2011 5:59:13 PM PST by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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98 posted on 11/18/2011 6:01:28 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: org.whodat

you make it personal with you constant slamming of a candidate I happen to prefer...on EVERY thread.

Yeh, we get that you don’t like Newt. Who cares if you don’t like him.

you’re about as annoying (you and 2-3 others) as those damn drum beating OWS’rs.


99 posted on 11/18/2011 6:02:36 PM PST by Hammerhead
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To: Reagan69

so you’ll sit out if Newt gets it?

Hey, thanks alot.


100 posted on 11/18/2011 6:04:01 PM PST by Hammerhead
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