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Cain Shows He’s Savvy on Health-Care Policy
National Journal ^ | November 2, 2011 | Grace-Marie Turner

Posted on 11/21/2011 12:56:18 PM PST by Southnsoul

Herman Cain spoke with passion and conviction before a Capitol Hill audience about the essential importance of repealing Obamacare and replacing it with “market-driven, patient-centered reform.”

He spoke at a forum organized by the Congressional Health Care Caucus that was inundated with dozens of reporters and televisions cameras.

Cain talked about the destructive impact of Obamacare, which is driving up costs and forcing at least 1,500 companies to seek waivers. “The problem with health costs in America goes back to 1943,” he explained, which set the foundation for the employer-based health insurance system that insulates people from the costs of health care.

As for medical care, “We have the best health care system in the world,” he said, as he recounted his own experience with stage four cancer, saying he is alive today because of the immediate, high-quality care he received. “I was finished with two rounds of chemotherapy and two surgeries in nine months — less than the time it would take to get a CT scan in countries with socialized health care systems,” he said.

He then took questions from members of Congress.

Cain said he wants to work with states, hospitals, and doctors to push decisions closer to people who are using medical services and would block grant Medicaid for the same reason.

Cain said he wants to sign a repeal bill on March 23, 2013 — the third anniversary of passage of Obamacare.

He strongly supports medical liability reform to cut down on “frivolous lawsuits.”

Cain spoke without notes and clearly had ownership of the business of health care, the powerful impact of the tax treatment of health insurance in shaping the American health sector, and the crucial importance of repealing Obamacare to provide a path to doctors and patients in charge of choices.

(Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cain; hermancain
Apparently this event took place earlier this month and I missed it somehow. It shows that Herman Cain is not only impressive on the issue, but is also an impressive communicator.
1 posted on 11/21/2011 12:56:20 PM PST by Southnsoul
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To: Southnsoul

And the MSM ignored it completely.


2 posted on 11/21/2011 1:01:58 PM PST by bigdirty
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To: Southnsoul

Yes, he certainly does have saavy on this, and he has said that he would not live himself if he had Obamacare (paraphrasing).


3 posted on 11/21/2011 1:03:02 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Southnsoul

Excellent! lol


4 posted on 11/21/2011 1:04:03 PM PST by sanjuanbob (Festina Lente)
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To: Southnsoul

NINE - NINE - NINE !


5 posted on 11/21/2011 1:14:34 PM PST by Reagan69 (I supported Sarah Palin and all I got was a lousy DVD !)
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To: Southnsoul

Brilliant !!


6 posted on 11/21/2011 1:20:18 PM PST by littlesorrel
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To: Southnsoul

Yeah, but, but, he doesn’t know who’s the president of Deergutistan! /s


7 posted on 11/21/2011 1:23:54 PM PST by pingman (Durn tootin'; I like Glock shootin'!)
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To: Southnsoul
Herman Cain

born December 13, 1945 in Memphis, TN (Meets the Jus Soli Requirement)

Parents were
Luther Cain Jr., born March 16, 1925 in TN, died March 29, 1982 in Atlanta, GA
Lenora Davis, born July 27, 1925 in GA, died August 20, 2005 in Atlanta, GA

Both parents were US Citizens at the time of his birth (Meets the Jus Sanguinis Requirement)

Herman Cain is a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN

”Herman

Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama ISN'T!

Click on the cane, (America is Ready.)

8 posted on 11/21/2011 1:33:52 PM PST by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: Southnsoul

Few people appreciate how incredibly intelligent this man is. I’ve never seen him use notes or any kind of prompters when giving his answers or speeches (though I haven’t see them all). I’ve read his articles and listened to him over the radio. I’m quite positive that Cain is actually a better speaker, especially on the spot, than Barack Obama or any of the other contenders. The only problem Cain has is... humanness. He’s casual. He “didn’t go to politically correct school”.


9 posted on 11/21/2011 1:43:22 PM PST by Apollo5600 (Cain 2012)
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To: Southnsoul

The only thing stopping Cain from the presidency imvho is another attempt at a smear, or a widening of the political assassination already attempted on him. It didn’t work the first time - he still polls near the top. In fact, the smarmy media attitude towards him is reason to believe the polls are being manipulated to make it seem like he lost more ground than he actually did.

I can see why he has maintained his support based on his conduct post-accusations.


10 posted on 11/21/2011 1:57:14 PM PST by toddausauras
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To: Southnsoul

Of the three poll leaders, Cain is the only one who can attack Obama on Obamacare. Romney invented it, and Newt has defended it. Obama is loving it.


11 posted on 11/21/2011 2:20:52 PM PST by pallis
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To: Southnsoul

I don’t know how you missed it — someone else just posted this earlier today. Two people randomly posting a 3-week-old story on the same day? Weird.

Headline is pretty stupid — he didn’t show any “savvy” in the article, just spouted some platitudes, and blamed employer health insurance for all our problems (but didn’t say how he was going to stop employers from entering employment contracts with workers that included health care).

He also didn’t explain what the millions of people who have employer-created health insurance are going to do when he “solves” the problem of employer-provided health insurance.

But he did say he wanted to make government insure that everybody has health insurance, because we don’t want to leave anybody out.


12 posted on 11/21/2011 6:27:58 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

It would help you to do actual research about candidates. Just sayin.


13 posted on 11/22/2011 1:06:29 AM PST by Apollo5600 (Cain 2012)
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To: Apollo5600
You are a Cain supporter. What is Cain's plan to "fix" the "problem" of employer-provided health insurance?

“The problem with health costs in America goes back to 1943,” he explained, which set the foundation for the employer-based health insurance system that insulates people from the costs of health care and puts employers in charge of choices.

And what is his plan to provide universal health insurance without a mandate?

Rep. Billy Long (R., Mo.) asked what Cain would do about preexisting conditions ... [Cain] said he believes it is a proper role for government to provide a safety-net, with both state and national contributions. “We don’t want to leave anybody out of getting health insurance coverage,” he said.

If you don't "leave anybody out" because of preconditions, nobody will buy health insurance until they are sick. The way Obamacare and Romneycare handled this was to require people to buy insurance -- thereby eliminating the very concept of pre-conditions since you will already HAVE insurance from birth, as required by law.

Cain doesn't seem to like that, so instead he offers a government solution. But if government will cover everybody with pre-existing conditions, so they are not "left out", again nobody will buy insurance. THe insurance industry will die, while everybody waits to get sick and then jumps into the government program.

You end up with government-provided insurance for everybody. Like medicare, with add-on insurance for rich people who don't like the government-insurance limitations.

Assuming you think government's job is to fix our "medical system", and apparently Herman Cain thinks so, if you aren't willing to "leave anybody out of getting health insurance", you will end up with either a mandated insurance purchase requirement, or a single-payer government-run health insurance system.

The Medical system is extremely complicated, and you don't fix it with platitudes and sound bites.

14 posted on 11/22/2011 9:09:01 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

You completely twist the very nature and spirit of his positions. I can only presume that you have never even watched a single debate or interview where he has spoken on this subject. He is all about getting government out of health care choices and giving back responsibility, ultimately, to the consumer. How this is exactly accomplished will probably require years of reforms. Tort reform, loser pay laws, increasing competition and choices between the consumer and insurance companies, tax refunds for low income families to afford their own healthcare, and so on and so forth. He is no statist as you describe him.


15 posted on 11/22/2011 12:21:55 PM PST by Apollo5600 (Cain 2012)
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To: Apollo5600

Yes, he has sound bites he uses at debates. This was from a sit-down presentation for Congress, and I am quoting his words.

You explain what he meant by those words, if it’s different. He was asked the question everybody gets asked — what about pre-existing conditions.

What is YOUR answer to that question? I can tell you that the answer to that question is the crux of the entire health insurance debate. Cain refused to say “if you don’t buy insurance, you are out of luck.” Instead, he said we government had a role to make sure nobody was “left out”. In Obamcare, that is the safety net state programs for risk pools — and the mandate for all future beneficiaries, and requiring all companies to cover pre-existing conditions.

And what did he mean about the problem being employer-provided health insurance, and how does he propose to fix it? In 2008, McCain wanted to eliminate the deductions for it, to drive up the cost. Cain’s 9-9-9 plan does the same thing, eliminates deductions so it costs more for employers to provide health insurance.

See, I support the concept of people choosing their own insurance. But many large employers actually provide health insurance (usually with some management company, it’s like self-insurance on a group level). Employees like these programs, and they should be allowed to continue, but employees should have the right to take the equivalent in pay and buy their own (actually, I’d give the money to EVERY employee, and then they could buy the insurance back from their employer if they want).

What is Cain’s plan? It’s not on his web site (plans rarely are at any level of detail). He mentioned it, so I figure he must have some idea.


16 posted on 11/22/2011 2:15:25 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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