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Gates testifies in $1-billion lawsuit against Microsoft
latimes.com ^ | 21 Nov 2011 | AP Story

Posted on 11/21/2011 8:32:43 PM PST by smokingfrog

Microsoft's Bill Gates took the witness stand Monday in a $1 billion antitrust lawsuit accusing the software maker of duping a competitor prior to its rollout of Windows 95.

Gates began his testimony with a history of Microsoft Corp. and was expected to remain on the stand throughout the day. He said he was just 19 when he helped found the software giant.

“We thought everybody would have a personal computer on every desk and in every home,” he said. “We wanted to be there and be the first.”

Gates, wearing a gray suit and a yellow tie, was the first witness to testify Monday as Microsoft lawyers presented their case in the trial that's been ongoing in federal court in Salt Lake City for about a month.

Utah-based Novell Inc. sued Microsoft in 2004, claiming the Redmond, Washington, company violated U.S. antitrust laws through its arrangements with other computer makers when it launched Windows 95. Novell says it was later forced to sell WordPerfect for a $1.2 billion loss.

The company argues that Gates, Microsoft's co-founder, ordered company engineers to reject WordPerfect as a Windows 95 application because he feared it was too good. WordPerfect's share of the market then plummeted from nearly 50 percent to less than 10 percent as Microsoft's own office programs took hold.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: novell; windows95; wordperfect

1 posted on 11/21/2011 8:32:46 PM PST by smokingfrog
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To: smokingfrog

Isn’t NOvell now nothing but a front for a lawsuit happy kabal of shysters?


2 posted on 11/21/2011 8:34:21 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Revolting cat!

No, that was SCO.


3 posted on 11/21/2011 8:37:00 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: smokingfrog
“We thought everybody would have a personal computer on every desk and in every home,” he said. "Who knew more than one person would use a computer at a time, or network them together??"
4 posted on 11/21/2011 8:37:07 PM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: smokingfrog

Word Perfect was great, but the thing was harder to use and even harder to train someone to use.

I took naturally to Word Perfect because I was trained in the era of IBM Selectric Keyboarding but for the users who never typed, MS Word was incredible. Even they could type.

In the end, Word won due to its simplicity and not because it was more capable.


5 posted on 11/21/2011 8:40:21 PM PST by dila813
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To: smokingfrog

Word sucked from the beginning and still sucks. I am stuck with it but I hate it (and Office 2010) with a personal passion.

WordPerfect WAS better. MUCH MUCH better.

I don’t know what that says about the merits of the case, but it is true.


6 posted on 11/21/2011 8:42:57 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012 -- the man we need at the time we need him)
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To: dila813

Some hardy souls are selling this on Amazon.

7 posted on 11/21/2011 8:43:35 PM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Spktyr

Ive known about SCO, but I thought that’s what Novell ended up becoming as well.


8 posted on 11/21/2011 8:56:39 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: martin_fierro
I just tossed mine away recently because I couldn't read the floppies. Some of my papers from college will now never be readable...

Hey, they weren't that bad.

9 posted on 11/21/2011 8:59:13 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Herman Cain: possibly the escapee most dangerous to the Democrats since Frederick Douglass.)
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To: freedumb2003

You are correct. Wordperfect was awesome. Word tried to emulate a typewriter, along with all of the limitations of dealing with one character at a time. Wordperfect threw away the typewriter model and managed the entire document with codes. I still have my WP12 disks, but I can only work in Word because of compatibility.


10 posted on 11/21/2011 9:03:12 PM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: smokingfrog
Utah-based Novell Inc. sued Microsoft in 2004, claiming the Redmond, Wash., company violated U.S. antitrust laws through its arrangements with other software makers when it launched Windows 95.

Is this the same suit? So it took almost ten years after the fact to bring the suit, and another seven to get it to trial? And who says the American legal system is @*$#ed up.

11 posted on 11/21/2011 9:04:43 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Herman Cain: possibly the escapee most dangerous to the Democrats since Frederick Douglass.)
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To: Revolting cat!

No, they’re mostly software/services now. Not a lawsuit factory.


12 posted on 11/21/2011 9:05:48 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: smokingfrog
I loved WordPerfect!

It made MS Word look positively third rate.

With WordPerfect, I could do absolutely everything, not so with Word.

Even now, I look to WP even though the newer versions aren't up to earlier WP versions to do the same work that it takes Word, and two or three MS programs need.

I'd love to testify in this case. Microsoft works to punish superior competitors, like Novell and force Windows' customers into using MS' inferior products!

13 posted on 11/21/2011 9:06:52 PM PST by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: Kirkwood

OpenOffice still has almost full WordPerfect compatibility, which Word still doesn’t.


14 posted on 11/21/2011 9:07:20 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: smokingfrog
The real competition was from Word*Star
15 posted on 11/21/2011 9:12:53 PM PST by bigbob
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To: smokingfrog

Talk about an old lawsuit. Windows 95 was no great shakes either... Windows 98 was a lot better.

I still use Word Perfect version 10 (2002) on my Windows 7 machine.


16 posted on 11/21/2011 9:18:49 PM PST by RDasher ("El Nino is climate, La Nina is weather")
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To: bigbob

< /sarc >


17 posted on 11/21/2011 9:25:24 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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To: dila813
Word won due to its simplicity and not because it was more capable.

The easiest to use were word processing software by Lotus.
AmiPro to start and then Word Pro.In both they ware so easy to use. Truly the most intuitive. Word was a poorly written copy of AmiPro. In AmiPro, most tasks could happen with right click menu's, and well designed main menu's. Word Pro extended those functionalities.

MS Word was made part of Office and MS more or less bribed or forced computer builders to include it in new computers.

It is a shame Word Pro and AmiPro before it lost the give away battle. The were FAR superior products. Everything was more natural when creating or formatting a document.

18 posted on 11/21/2011 9:41:07 PM PST by JSteff ((((It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.))))
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To: smokingfrog
Shades of "DOS isn't done until Lotus won't run."

WordPerfect 8 can be convinced to run fairly well on Vista. I have given up trying to get it to run on Windows 7.

19 posted on 11/21/2011 9:53:05 PM PST by TChad
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To: JSteff

I used them too, even used gold star, didn’t like any of them because they weren’t working with many of the printers.

HP and Word Perfect really took off with the introduction of early laser printers, killed all others because WP supported pcl natively.


20 posted on 11/21/2011 9:56:33 PM PST by dila813
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To: JSteff

Word blew AmiPro out of the water when it came to printing envelopes. That’s where Word won me over.


21 posted on 11/21/2011 10:52:30 PM PST by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: Slump Tester
I agree, but that was solved by a great envelope printing program that worked pretty closely with AmiPro. If I find it among my old disks I will let you know. It had amazing functionality and I used it all the time.
22 posted on 11/22/2011 1:24:03 AM PST by JSteff ((((It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.))))
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To: dila813
I used an HPIIP+ and had it since I got the computer. It worked beautifully. No problems ever. But I had put the maximum memory available in the printer.
At the time it was 4 megs of RAM and a very expensive card.
23 posted on 11/22/2011 1:28:16 AM PST by JSteff ((((It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.))))
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To: smokingfrog

I like Word Pad.


24 posted on 11/22/2011 1:46:02 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: smokingfrog

The first word processing programs I saw/useed were Electric Pencil (Michael Shrayer) and Scripsit from Tandy R/S.


25 posted on 11/22/2011 1:46:18 AM PST by Joe Bfstplk (People should enjoy the fruits of their labor. No labor, no fruit.)
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