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Rep King: House Won't Defund Obamacare Because Leaders ĎAfraid' GOP Will be Blamed for Shutdown
CNS News ^ | November 21, 2011 | Pete Winn

Posted on 11/22/2011 5:09:20 AM PST by EternalVigilance

Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa) says that Congress is not going to cut off funding for Obamacare or Planned Parenthood because House Republican leadership is afraid of the threat of a showdown with Senate Democrats and the president – they’re afraid that Republicans would be blamed for a government shutdown.

King said the House GOP leadership, if asked, would say that they did pass a repeal of Obamacare – and would blame the Senate, which didn’t take up the measure.

But King also said House Republicans “didn’t use the leverage that we should have used.”

“We didn’t bring up the maximum leverage because the decision was made by leadership to avoid the prospect of a showdown with the president or Harry Reid that could result in a potential shutdown of government,” King told CNSNews.com in an interview.

“And that rationale – and it wasn’t my rationale – is what brings us to this point -- that we’re still funding Obamacare to the tune of $23.6 billion dollars in the first two years, we’re trying to find $1.2 trillion in cuts, there’s $1.379 trillion in cuts that are there automatically if we just cut off the existing programs within Obamacare and resolve the problem with the Super-committee,” he said.

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To: American Constitutionalist
What was the reason of the election of 2010 for ? oh, yeah , to repeal ObamaCare.. Sarcasm.

It was never going to be repealed with a 'rat senate and a 'rat president.

51 posted on 11/22/2011 6:32:28 AM PST by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: EternalVigilance

OK... so what exactly is the difference between THIS Congress and the one that preceded it?


52 posted on 11/22/2011 6:38:11 AM PST by ScottinVA (I miss America.)
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To: EternalVigilance
Because Leaders ‘Afraid' GOP Will be Blamed for Shutdown

Just once... can they NOT do the right thing?... To hell with the whole lot of them.

53 posted on 11/22/2011 6:40:38 AM PST by ScottinVA (I miss America.)
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To: ScottinVA
OK... so what exactly is the difference between THIS Congress and the one that preceded it?

Rhetoric.

“Political Language is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind”

— George Orwell


54 posted on 11/22/2011 6:42:08 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Newt Gingrich: The go to guy when you're down to the bottom of the bottom of the barrel...)
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To: Notary Sojac; rhombus; EternalVigilance
All you have to do is drag the idea of cutting Medicare through Free Republic, to get a whole bunch of "conservatives" to start wailing about how they paid for it and how the Government promised them....

And if that's what Freepers think, you can imagine how the sheeple would react.


Here's a bunch of things I'd cut before I'd cut military benefits and medicare:

Anchor babies, illegals, new immigrants, and their respective extended families,
 (illegals alone cost $1/4 - $1/3 trillion per year; low skill immigrants cost ~$ 20,000 per household)

Fixing up ramshackle Mexican trucks that will put Americans out of work,

Sponsoring green technology overseas,

Paying college tuition for students from China ($ 8 billion per year),

Setting up the Moslem Brotherhood and al-Quaeda in Libya and Egypt,

Setting up CDC labs overseas,

Paying for post doctoral degrees for Indian scientists,

Billions in tax credits for illegals from the IRS,
Subsidizing Palestinian terrorists,
Funding the Taliban and other terrorist organizations in Afghanistan,

Hiring foreign workers for Oregon Forestry companies under TARP,

The entire Department of Education ($ 71,333,000,000),

The entire Department of Housing and Urban Development ($ 46,277,000,000),

International Assistance Programs ($ 25,502,000,000),

The entire Department of Energy ($ 34,215,000,000),

Blatant fraud in Medicare and Medicaid ($ 900 billion) which IBM offered to fix for free
55 posted on 11/22/2011 6:51:09 AM PST by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: EternalVigilance
Re:OK... so what exactly is the difference between THIS Congress and the one that preceded it?

Rhetoric.

“Political Language is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind”

— George Orwell


Amen !
56 posted on 11/22/2011 6:55:44 AM PST by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: EternalVigilance

This will not sit well.


57 posted on 11/22/2011 7:18:46 AM PST by chiller ( Elect another batch of TPartiers and it won't matter which R we elect. WE will lead.)
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To: chiller

Good. It’s way past time for conservatives to quit following false flags.


58 posted on 11/22/2011 7:20:05 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Newt Gingrich: The go to guy when you're down to the bottom of the bottom of the barrel...)
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To: TomGuy

I remember it well.

ABC News started their nightly broadcast with a typical middle class family going to a National Park somewhere and being turned away because of the shutdown. They then interviewed the family who talked about how terrible it was for them to travel hundreds, thousands of miles only to have their dreams dashed and no glimsp of Old Faithful, the Giant Sequioas, or whatever they came for. The education of their children was sacrificed on the Republicans demand the rich people pay no taxes!

Then park rangers where interviewed who lost their jobs due to Newt and his evil Republicans and how awful it all was, some where even told they might be let go!!!! Who would now restrain Yogi from stealing Pic-A-nic baskets??? The horror! Why are Newt, Bob Dole and the Republicans so evil!!???

The other news casts went down the same way. It was like they were sharing their stories!

I hope everyone here understands they will do this all over again in a heartbeat. They YEARN to do so. They’re plotting right now. Hell, they’ve already released the meme for the Supercommittee failure. Same stories will now make the rounds.

WE have to have a better team (not likely) or a better way to counter the propaganda.

I don’t see this happening, unless we go after the REAL culprits here. Hint: Not the democrats or the Republicans but....

The Mainstream, driveby, state-run, Journ-O-lists.


59 posted on 11/22/2011 7:23:14 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: Mouton

“So let me see, rather than doing the right thing, they put their career jobs ahead of their sworn duty”

And you can count on them to keep doing it. Finally almost mercifully our entire financial system will collapse and then maybe we can salvage something from the ashes.


60 posted on 11/22/2011 7:26:13 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: algernonpj
Here's a bunch of things I'd cut...

This is why it's so hard to keep a republic, I suppose. At least Mussolini made the trains run on time. ;-)

61 posted on 11/22/2011 7:35:41 AM PST by rhombus
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To: noprogs

Who elects the political leadership? In order to solve a problem, the root must be reasoned with.


62 posted on 11/22/2011 7:42:24 AM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians)
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To: algernonpj

In other words, you’d cut every program except the ones that provide benefits to you, is that about right??


63 posted on 11/22/2011 7:47:01 AM PST by Notary Sojac
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To: rollo tomasi
Who elects the political leadership? In order to solve a problem, the root must be reasoned with.

As far as the GOP leadership, it's too late for them. I don't see any way they can redeem themselves. They fear the Rat leadership more than they fear their constituents. They need to be broomed.

64 posted on 11/22/2011 7:57:18 AM PST by SMM48
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To: EternalVigilance

Afraid the skeletons in their closet will be exposed.


65 posted on 11/22/2011 8:06:07 AM PST by crosshairs (Liberalism is to truth, what east is to west.)
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To: Notary Sojac; rhombus
Reread the first sentence of my post(Here's a bunch of things I'd cut before I'd cut military benefits and medicare)

Do you all have a problem with cutting the items on my list
or do you believe illegal aliens, foreigners, and the alphabet soup of regulatory agencies who bypass congress in regulating our lives have priority over retired military and those who had money confiscated as a condition of their employment with the promise of an annuity at retirement?
66 posted on 11/22/2011 8:23:15 AM PST by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: SMM48
As far as the GOP leadership, it's too late for them. I don't see any way they can redeem themselves. They fear the Rat leadership more than they fear their constituents. They need to be broomed.

IMHO they fear the loss of their share of the booty.
67 posted on 11/22/2011 8:25:58 AM PST by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: EternalVigilance
House Won't Defund Obamacare Because Leaders ‘Afraid' GOP Will be Blamed for Shutdown

This is why we must support Romney. We need his Churchillian Courage.\s

I will vote for Bachmann. "Courage is the first of human qualities because it is the quality which guarantees all others." Winston Churchill..

68 posted on 11/22/2011 8:27:29 AM PST by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts." Richard Feynman father of Quantum Physics)
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To: vetvetdoug

It’s time to take the first logical step; DEMAND BOEHNER STEP DOWN! This worthless crying incompetent has led the GOP House down this feckless road of compromise. Don’t forget, Boehner gave Obama another $2 Trillion in petty cash for nothing in return. We are funding Obamacare and Planned Parenthood, RIGHT NOW! Why aren’t Rush and the other conservative talking heads, calling for Boehner’s head to roll?


69 posted on 11/22/2011 8:45:13 AM PST by Windy City Conservative (Kyle Smith)
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To: EternalVigilance

Worthless, gutless cowards.

Just...absolutely...WORTHLESS


70 posted on 11/22/2011 8:52:57 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: algernonpj

No, not at all. I got no problem with your choices. The point I was trying to make is that it’s easy to say I’d cut but difficult to say we’ll cut... that’s all. Sorry, didn’t mean to be mysterious.


71 posted on 11/22/2011 9:01:56 AM PST by rhombus
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To: algernonpj
(1) I have no problems with cutting all the things you mentioned.

(2) Cutting them all will postpone the Social Security/Medicare day of reckoning by a few years at best. What then??

(3) No one was "promised" an "annuity". Unless you believe Democrats, that is.

72 posted on 11/22/2011 9:20:02 AM PST by Notary Sojac
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To: rhombus
I wrote 'I'd', hoping others would agree with the choices. To me, 'we'd' would have been presumptuous.

Perhaps I should have been less cryptic. My point was there is an incredible amount of money that hopefully we'd agree to cut from the budget first, from places our 'illustrious' politicians never mention. In fact I would love to see Ron Pauls's proposed budget as a starting point for discussion.
73 posted on 11/22/2011 9:21:46 AM PST by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: algernonpj

Something tells me Paul would have lots of military cuts too. After all, you don’t need to prime the muskets until they come over the wall.


74 posted on 11/22/2011 9:24:26 AM PST by rhombus
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To: Notary Sojac

http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/post?id=2810848%2C73


75 posted on 11/22/2011 9:24:43 AM PST by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: rhombus
Here's Paul's summary chart:



As I said it would be a good place to start discussion.I haven't come by a better split out of his cuts. IIRC he would cut funds for 'nation building' over seas.

My list is derived from articles I started collecting and putting in a folder 'where our money goes' with a few of paul's recommendations re shutting down federal regulatory agencies.
76 posted on 11/22/2011 9:34:37 AM PST by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: algernonpj

Something to ponder... imagine you got your way and there were massive cuts. Unemployment would go through the roof as all these unemployed gov workers hit the street. The economy would sink, sink, sink until it reorganized and improved. But I don’t think the economy would be given enough time to heal on its own. Instead, we’d see another massive shift as the Democrats would be blaming the crappy economy on us “cutters” and they’d be right back in office “helping people” back into their government jobs. The American public isn’t going to suddenly get smarter and endure the pain. They are going to be pissed and vote for the next pretty face who is passing out candy. Cutting has to be gradual or it will be self-defeating.


77 posted on 11/22/2011 9:40:51 AM PST by rhombus
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To: EternalVigilance

SHUT IT DOWN, AND LETS SEE IF ANYONE NOTICES~!

(-Ronald Reagan)


78 posted on 11/22/2011 9:42:37 AM PST by Mr. K (Physically unable to proofreed <--- oops, see?)
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan

(my old tagline)

Courage is not just one of the virtues, it is the form of all the virtues at the testing point.

CS Lewis


79 posted on 11/22/2011 9:45:17 AM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: EternalVigilance

Stupid Party = Cowardly Party


80 posted on 11/22/2011 9:51:17 AM PST by Gritty (Compromise that is not a solution is a waste of time. We either save this country or we do not-Rubio)
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To: EternalVigilance

Might as well have an all-Democrat Congress for what good the vile eunuchs do.


81 posted on 11/22/2011 10:20:34 AM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: EternalVigilance

And they all went all along with faggots in the military as well.

If the Republicans are merely the servile assistants of the Dems, what are our options?


82 posted on 11/22/2011 10:21:36 AM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: EternalVigilance
...House Republican leadership is afraid...

We need new House leadership.

I hope we add another 60 seats next November, or at least enough to create a stronger bloc of bold Republicans.

-PJ

83 posted on 11/22/2011 10:23:28 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: little jeremiah

Start from scratch.


84 posted on 11/22/2011 10:24:24 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Newt Gingrich: The go to guy when you're down to the bottom of the bottom of the barrel...)
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To: rhombus

The problem is they aren’t doing any cutting at all. None. Any so-called cuts aren’t really cuts. Or if they are, it’s infinitesimal and useless.

If they don’t start cutting, then eveyrthing will collapse sooner or later, and sooner is looking more likely than later. And then it will be much, much worse than any controlled cuts, no matter how so-called “draconian”.


85 posted on 11/22/2011 10:40:35 AM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: little jeremiah
If they don’t start cutting, then eveyrthing will collapse sooner or later, and sooner is looking more likely than later. And then it will be much, much worse than any controlled cuts, no matter how so-called “draconian”.

I hear you and feel your pain. The problem is I just don't think people believe it. Maybe a little collapsing would be good for all of us... except it would just be blamed on the GOP and used as another "crisis" to spend more money and reduce more freedom.

86 posted on 11/22/2011 10:47:25 AM PST by rhombus
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To: Windy City Conservative
It’s time to take the first logical step; DEMAND BOEHNER STEP DOWN! This worthless crying incompetent has led the GOP House down this feckless road of compromise.

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87 posted on 11/22/2011 11:03:55 AM PST by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts." Richard Feynman father of Quantum Physics)
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan

It starts at the top, and for me I always thought Boehner was full of it. I remember his acting job on the Sunday that the Democrats the House forced Obamacare down our throats. Bart Stupak and his anonymous dozen had surrendered that day and pretended that Obama’s executive order to keep tax payer funded abortions from occurring.

Boehner stood on the House floor and it sure looked like he a.) pretended to be mad or b.) was ineffective. Boehner is a clown, but I guess he has a lot of clout all centered on $$$$. Take away his $$$$$ power, and the guy would be laying in a gutter somewhere crying. Remeber his chummy golf game with Obama?

SPREAD THE WORD FAR AND WIDE: BOEHNER IS THE FACE OF THE GOP IN THE HOUSE (from the most rock-ribbed conservative to the biggest RINO) CALL ON BOEHNER TO STEP DOWN AND THE CURE WILL BEGIN.


88 posted on 11/22/2011 11:14:24 AM PST by Windy City Conservative (Kyle Smith)
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To: little jeremiah
And they all went all along with faggots in the military as well. If the Republicans are merely the servile assistants of the Dems, what are our options?

And the dems and MSM know this....it's the default operating mode of the GOP....that's why they want Romney.

backbone stiffness rating ....Mittens 1, Newt's 4, Perry's 6, Cain 7, Bachmann 10. 10 = Reagan and Palin. are the gold standard.


89 posted on 11/22/2011 11:29:37 AM PST by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts." Richard Feynman father of Quantum Physics)
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To: TomGuy

Yeah, it was so bad in 1996 that the voters punished the GOP by putting in two more Senators and kicking out a grand total of two House Reps from 1994. /

I mean when are the GOP(Gutless Old Pussies)head honchos going to realize it doesn’t pay to be nice to the Dems.


90 posted on 11/22/2011 11:41:38 AM PST by princeofdarkness (The Obama Administration is circling the wagons. But the Truth Indians are using flaming arrows.)
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To: EternalVigilance

These idiots had better get a grip on reality - when America falls, THEY are actually going to be the reason, not Obama!!!


91 posted on 11/22/2011 11:50:11 AM PST by SlightOfTongue
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To: rhombus

I don’t expect a “little” collapse.

All civilizations go through all the stages. IMHO we’re witnessing the decay of this one. The only question is how fast will it occur. And the difference with this one compared to the rest of history is that everything is globally screwed, and there is very little basic human decency or morality anywhere. Very little is produced for local needs in the industrialized “western” nations, and vast numbers depend entirely on government.

It will be very, very ugly and many people will be sorry they weren’t prepared for it.

It’s too bad the Repubs are spineless creeps.


92 posted on 11/22/2011 11:56:27 AM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: Notary Sojac
All you have to do is drag the idea of cutting Medicare through Free Republic,

Kill all the old people that will shut them up.

93 posted on 11/22/2011 12:10:49 PM PST by itsahoot (Throw them all out!)
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To: napscoordinator
That is one reason I am surprised that she is not doing better.

That is one reason I am not surprised that she is not doing better.

The RINO establishment marginalized her exactly for that reason.

94 posted on 11/22/2011 12:15:00 PM PST by itsahoot (Throw them all out!)
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To: TomGuy
After all, that 'promise' already served its purpose.

Remember how GW promised to build the fence, then after the election he had Kay defund it? It served the purpose, the GW worshippers here believed every word of it.

95 posted on 11/22/2011 12:22:11 PM PST by itsahoot (Throw them all out!)
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To: Windy City Conservative
Why aren’t Rush and the other conservative talking heads, calling for Boehner’s head to roll?

Only Levin, and he nailed him good last Friday.

96 posted on 11/22/2011 12:43:34 PM PST by itsahoot (Throw them all out!)
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan

I decided I’m going to vote for Bachmann. That’s it.


97 posted on 11/22/2011 12:48:38 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: princeofdarkness
it doesn’t pay to be nice to the Dems.

Well it doesn't do you any good, them on the other hand, different story.

98 posted on 11/22/2011 12:52:24 PM PST by itsahoot (Throw them all out!)
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To: Libloather; Pride in the USA; Stillwaters
They win back the House - just to repeal Commiecare™ - and now they can’t do it? Replacements are needed.

It's creepy, and a whole lot of these career bozos need to go home and retire, counting their pieces of silver for the rest of their days.

I remember when Michele Bachmann threw her hat in the ring asking to be considered for the role of House Majority Leader. I don't know if she could have made a difference, but I absolutely believe she would have fought with all her heart to do the right thing for the American people.

99 posted on 11/22/2011 12:59:38 PM PST by lonevoice (Klepto Baracka Marxo, impeach we much. We will much about that be committed.)
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To: lonevoice

I think most in the GOP could do a better job as Speaker than Boehner. Also, Cantor and McCarthy should be designated as gophers in 2013; they were weak from the get go as well. Boehner, Cantor, and McCarthy have upset the usual malcontents of the loony left as well as the conservative voters. What kind of voters are left who are supporters of these failed politicians?


100 posted on 11/22/2011 1:56:16 PM PST by Windy City Conservative (Kyle Smith)
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