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Gingrich 'prepared to take the heat' with talk of amnesty ("Let's be humane in enforcing the law")
The Los Angeles Times ^ | 2011-11-22 | Kim Geiger

Posted on 11/22/2011 7:54:13 PM PST by rabscuttle385

Edited on 11/22/2011 8:03:27 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

I do not believe that the people of the United States are going to take people whove been here for a quarter of a century [and] separate them from their families and expel them, Gingrich said during a discussion about illegal immigration and border security. I do believe we should control the border. I do believe we should have very severe penalties.


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To: TitansAFC

Lies. Cain has never said such a thing.


51 posted on 11/22/2011 8:14:55 PM PST by Apollo5600 (Cain 2012)
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To: rabscuttle385

FUNG!


52 posted on 11/22/2011 8:14:55 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: SunkenCiv

I would not like to see Newt in a position to take over the White house under any circumstances, but he might make a good Chief of Staff for President Cain.


53 posted on 11/22/2011 8:15:04 PM PST by Paperdoll (quences of their misgivings.)
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To: mas cerveza por favor

bump

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I think Newt is being inhumane to American taxpayers and those who now have to compete with foreigners for jobs, space at the ER and welfare


54 posted on 11/22/2011 8:15:21 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Friendofgeorge

Palin is close to endorsing Newt.


55 posted on 11/22/2011 8:16:20 PM PST by Minus_The_Bear
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To: rabscuttle385

HEY NEWT! Yeah YOU! The Cherokee were forced to leave Georgia, and they were there FIRST. So it is only fair to forcibly remove the illegals of today.

When you do the crime, you pay the price. The price is forcible eviction for being inside the United States of America illegally. Time is not the issue, the crime is the issue.

BTW Newt, walk around our Mexican border towns at night, if you dare - - - . Maybe then you will change your mind.


56 posted on 11/22/2011 8:16:47 PM PST by Graewoulf ( obama"care" violates the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND is illegal by the U.S. Constitution.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Hey Newt,

What about all the Americans who have lost their jobs in the worst economy we have seen in decades.

How about being humane to Americans who will do most jobs the illegals now do.

Why do you want to protect illegal jobs at the expense of jobless Americans, who are looking for ANY JOB to provide for their family.


57 posted on 11/22/2011 8:17:02 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: rabscuttle385

58 posted on 11/22/2011 8:18:00 PM PST by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the constitution"-Obama official)
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To: rabscuttle385
Nute, we don't have to hunt them down and deport them.

Stop giving them illegal jobs and free stuff, and they'll go home.

59 posted on 11/22/2011 8:18:07 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("The very idea of a community organizer is to stir up a mob for some political purpose." Ann Coulter)
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To: Java4Jay

Agreed. Partial deportation is more realistic, as well as hefty penalties for employers.

But folks are looking to bludgeon Newt, so don’t expect much thoughtful debate.


60 posted on 11/22/2011 8:18:54 PM PST by TitansAFC ("..then propose a reasonable program for the 12 million (illegals) who broke our laws" - Herman Cain)
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To: magritte

Yep! Don’t want to separate them from their parents. The biggest argument to keep the whole family in the US, to not separate the children born here from their parents. Ok, we don’t separate them. Send them all back to the hell hole their parents came from and allow them (the children) to come back when they are old enough to leave there.

Many illegals come to this country pregnant just so they can stay because their child is born here, get rid of that incentive and some of the illegal problems might be solved.


61 posted on 11/22/2011 8:19:30 PM PST by doc1019 (Romney will never get my vote)
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To: magritte

Yep! Don’t want to separate them from their parents. The biggest argument to keep the whole family in the US, to not separate the children born here from their parents. Ok, we don’t separate them. Send them all back to the hell hole their parents came from and allow them (the children) to come back when they are old enough to leave there.

Many illegals come to this country pregnant just so they can stay because their child is born here, get rid of that incentive and some of the illegal problems might be solved.


62 posted on 11/22/2011 8:19:54 PM PST by doc1019 (Romney will never get my vote)
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To: rabscuttle385

Call me crazy but I couldn’t do that to families either and I’m no Gingrich supporter. I don’t think it’s a magnet either because he’s talking about grandfathering these people in not that we would allow newcomers to stay.

I haven’t always believed this way. I just think that this country has always been about both justice AND mercy. It’s easy to be angry with them for sneaking into our country and using up our resources, I know that. However, if they have helped this country and have been good people here and have made a life and love this country I think we can work with them going through the citizen process.


63 posted on 11/22/2011 8:20:27 PM PST by MiddleEarth (With hope or without hope we'll follow the trail of our enemies. Woe to them, if we prove the faster)
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To: Jim Robinson
FUNG!

What else need be said? Newt? Nyet!

64 posted on 11/22/2011 8:20:57 PM PST by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“Nute, we don’t have to hunt them down and deport them.

Stop giving them illegal jobs and free stuff, and they’ll go home.”

Great point. How sad that so many freepers promote the strawman that “You can’t round them all up...ITS IMPOSSIBLE!” as if that was the only option.

As Jim says FUNG! You REALLY stepped into it tonight!


65 posted on 11/22/2011 8:21:08 PM PST by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the constitution"-Obama official)
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To: mas cerveza por favor

California is gone and will NEVER COME BACK.


66 posted on 11/22/2011 8:21:08 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: Apollo5600

See tagline. It’s a quote from Herman Cain saying exactly that.


67 posted on 11/22/2011 8:22:01 PM PST by TitansAFC ("..then propose a reasonable program for the 12 million (illegals) who broke our laws" - Herman Cain)
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To: rabscuttle385

“I do not believe that the people of the United States are going to take people who’ve been here for a quarter of a century … [and] separate them from their families and expel them,”

That’s why you deport the whole famn damily, Dipwad.


68 posted on 11/22/2011 8:22:59 PM PST by Grunthor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0heL2Czeraw)
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To: rabscuttle385

OK. He’s soooooooo done. Perry.....now Ginny.


69 posted on 11/22/2011 8:23:40 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (A MUST WATCH: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KeOLurcQaqI)
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To: rabscuttle385

70 posted on 11/22/2011 8:23:44 PM PST by South40
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Wow! Looks like the DAR is racist! Not one clap for Cain! I am glad I never joined them, or the Colonisl Dames, though I am eligible on both sides of my family! A bunch of phony fluff after all!


71 posted on 11/22/2011 8:24:36 PM PST by Paperdoll (quences of their misgivings.)
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To: Trod Upon

I am befuddled now...Newt shoots self in foot. Perry’s dream act. Herman who thinks Cuban is a language. Michelle falling in the polls. Santorum is not catching on. Romney, the master of flip flops. Is there anyone left standing to trump ozero?


72 posted on 11/22/2011 8:25:08 PM PST by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: MiddleEarth

I could do it. I’d have fun doing it. My family (grandparents) came into this country LEGALLY, and it took many years to actually accomplish. Newt’s whole 25 years thing is nonsense. Just a smokescreen. No way you can actually say “25” years, YOU stay, 24 years, YOU GO. He said we should deport people who came in “recently”, so how recent is recent? He said we shouldn’t “tear apart families”. So, have a kid, and you’re golden? It’s ridiculous. So basically my family has to go through the paperwork and trouble to come in LEGALLY for years, but come in illegally, join a church (Newt didn’t say which denomination though), have a kid, and BOOM, compassionate Newty will overlook our crime. This standard would legalize millions of illegals who happened to have anchor babies.

Ooooh man. I never thought Newt would step on it this bad. I thought he had the whole “speak the conservaative language” strategy all setup. Guess not.


73 posted on 11/22/2011 8:25:51 PM PST by Apollo5600 (Cain 2012)
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To: Java4Jay

Newt did specify that he would seal the boarders before he did anything else. And he said he would deport the new illegal aliens. I don’t agree with the amnesty for all, but I don’t think he will ever get that far. Who the heck are we going to support????? Immigrants that get their medical degrees here, should be required to stay here for a certain number of years.


74 posted on 11/22/2011 8:26:08 PM PST by RightLady (Liberty above all)
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To: rabscuttle385

would it be “heartless” not to?


75 posted on 11/22/2011 8:26:22 PM PST by bigbob
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To: Grunthor
...deport the whole famn damily...

Well said. Newt's book title: "Drill Here, Drill Now". My book title, "Deport Now, Deport All!". The illegals swarming all over our once beautiful Texas need to be gone lest we become like California.

76 posted on 11/22/2011 8:26:39 PM PST by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: Java4Jay

What about being humane to the millions of Americans who have lost their jobs in the worst economy we have seen in decades?

These jobless Americans will do almost any job these illegals are doing now to survive this tough economy.

Why is Newt protecting the jobs of the these illegals, at the expense of jobless Americans?

Where’s the compassion for legal Americans?


77 posted on 11/22/2011 8:26:49 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: TitansAFC

Get me a link. I’ve never heard such a thing. He came out in favor of Arizona’s immigration law tonight.


79 posted on 11/22/2011 8:27:35 PM PST by Apollo5600 (Cain 2012)
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To: doc1019

You do understand that any candidate for President who took this position would never be elected. Ever. It’s a total non-starter.

For the most part, all candidates except Bachmann have essentially the same position on illegal immigration, and Bachmann is walking dead.

1. No deportation of most illegals
2. Some legal documentation to get illegals on the record.
3. Border security.
4. Non-return paths to citizenship.

That’s as good as it going to get.


80 posted on 11/22/2011 8:28:07 PM PST by magritte
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat
I am befuddled now...Newt shoots self in foot. Perry’s dream act. Herman who thinks Cuban is a language. Michelle falling in the polls. Santorum is not catching on. Romney, the master of flip flops. Is there anyone left standing to trump ozero?

There is only one answer.

I hope that she is listening.

81 posted on 11/22/2011 8:28:24 PM PST by Kennard
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To: rabscuttle385

Newt pulled the plug on his own campaign tonight, and then wimped out afterwards by trying to shuffle his idea off on the “Foundation” he mentioned. It’s over. Watch as his poll numbers tank from tomorrow into Iowa.


82 posted on 11/22/2011 8:29:07 PM PST by montag813
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Aannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd once again, Newt self-destructs.

So long, thanks for playing...Have a seat over there with La Raza Rick after trying the reverse of heartless; dick.

What part of ILLEGAL don't these assholes UNDERSTAND?
GET.RID.OF.THEM! Its not my or any other LEGAL citizen's fault they made the decisions they did in breaking our laws. I have no sympathy and only wish them GONE so LEGAL Americans can get some work and tax dollars are no longer spent on this insanity.

Enforce our southern border like Mexico does theirs.

83 posted on 11/22/2011 8:29:24 PM PST by Michael Barnes (Obamaa+ Downgrade)
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To: rabscuttle385

That certainly in the correct palm to forehead photo to use. Newt always shoots himself (in the head!!!). Might make a good Secretary of State, tho.


84 posted on 11/22/2011 8:29:28 PM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: rabscuttle385

These jackassess never understand nor do they want to do the right thing. We don’t want them, Newt. What don’t you understand?


85 posted on 11/22/2011 8:29:44 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: rabscuttle385

Well, in a way I’m glad Newt revealed his rather wimpy stance on this issue, which I’d always suspected. It was already a rather noxious task trying to figure if there was ‘some’ way I could support him without having to contort my entire value-system. His beltway/insider/lobbyist status rankled my Tea Party sensibilities; His sleazy personal life made me want to retch; And his history of bizarrely bad judgment calls tended to overshadow his admittedly positive accomplishments.

With his weak amnesty stance, at least it seems I can just cleanly close the book on Gingrich once and for all. And I’m really saying this without any gratuitous ire towards him. In fact, there’s a lot I actually like about him, and his presence in the race has been a beneficial one. I have great memories of him back on CSPAN in the 1980s, and the ‘94 election was a truly stunning feather in his cap. But the whole notion of supporting him for the presidency? Nope, afraid not. I just don’t have a lick of trust in him.


86 posted on 11/22/2011 8:30:16 PM PST by greene66
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To: rabscuttle385

Gingrish is still OK with me

The problem with immigration is that we have not been enforcing it for 40 years

And so we have whole families that are illegal, but have never lived in Mexico.

To suddenly start enforcing a law we have let politicians ignore is GOING TO cause some problems

First and foremost- CUT OFF THE MIGRATION- lock down the border- then we figure out what to do with those that are here


87 posted on 11/22/2011 8:30:31 PM PST by Mr. K (Physically unable to proofreed <--- oops, see?)
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To: Kennard

Okay, so there are conservatives who are actually faulting Cain on the Cuban language thing? Woah! Okay. Logical.


88 posted on 11/22/2011 8:30:31 PM PST by Apollo5600 (Cain 2012)
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To: rabscuttle385

Newt, their families go with them and everyone is happy to be obeying the law.


89 posted on 11/22/2011 8:30:33 PM PST by donna (This is what happens when America is no longer a Christian nation.)
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To: GeronL

I am sick and tired of being accused of not having compassion, because I don’t believe in rewarding illegal activity.


90 posted on 11/22/2011 8:31:21 PM PST by Southnsoul
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To: Paperdoll

Are you on a phone or some other mobile device?


91 posted on 11/22/2011 8:31:47 PM PST by Grunthor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0heL2Czeraw)
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To: Southnsoul

bump


92 posted on 11/22/2011 8:32:22 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: rabscuttle385

People tend to think that Cain is stupid while Newt is a genius.

Well maybe that’s wrong. One would think that a ‘genius’ would be smart enough not to anger the voters he needs BEFORE winning the primary, while someone ‘stupid’ would anger voters he needs.

So while we may cringe when Cain says stuff that makes us think he doesn’t have all of foreign policy figured out, we sure as heck know that he RESPECTS us, and does not feel a need to ‘educate’ us (regarding Illegal Immigration, in particular) as Newt and Perry are certainly trying to do.


93 posted on 11/22/2011 8:32:44 PM PST by BobL (Send Rove a Message, VOTE CAIN, no matter what)
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To: Revolting cat!
Well, since the law hasn’t been enforced much, starting somewhere is a good start, no?.

No matter who is elected, there will be some sort of amnesty as with Reagan. The question will be how to prevent or deal with future illegals.

94 posted on 11/22/2011 8:33:10 PM PST by decimon
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To: Mr. K

How can they be illegal if they’ve never been in Mexico?

If they were born here, right now, they are considered US citizens.


95 posted on 11/22/2011 8:33:49 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: decimon
The question will be how to prevent or deal with future illegals.

Another amnesty?

96 posted on 11/22/2011 8:33:55 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: Jim Robinson
FUNG!

Agree. I've opened my wallet to the Cain campaign recently... I have watched the newtster crawl to the front recently and even though he has talked a good game, I just don't trust him.

This immigration stance has closed the door on his run in my book.

97 posted on 11/22/2011 8:34:04 PM PST by JDoutrider (The democrat party has morphed into an evil institution that is hell bent on destroying America.)
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To: Michael Barnes

I don’t know how I can in good conscience vote for any GOP candidate who is an illegal lover. Cain and Bachmann seem to be the only candidates steadfastly opposed to the illegals and opposed to amnesty.


98 posted on 11/22/2011 8:34:12 PM PST by PAConservative1 (Myth, Ricardo, and AmNEWTsty - NON STARTERS!)
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To: rabscuttle385

An idealistic view: Collect them all up, put them in buses and send them home.

Realistic view: That’s just never going to happen.

Better to close the border, enforce the laws already on the books, remove the incentives for coming here, and allow the numbers to fall via attrition.


99 posted on 11/22/2011 8:35:28 PM PST by TBBT
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat

“Is there anyone left standing to trump ozero?”

Buddy Roemer


100 posted on 11/22/2011 8:35:28 PM PST by mouske
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