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"Newt Gingrich Facing GOP backlash Over 'Humane' Immigration Policy" (U.K. Guardian)
The Guardian (United Kingdom) ^ | 24 November 2011 | Ewen MacAskell (in USA)

Posted on 11/23/2011 9:05:05 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo

Conservative activists believe Gingrich's views on illegal immigrants has opened up the field for another GOP candidate...

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; borders; campaign; gingrich; illegalaliens; illegals; immigration; legalization; newtgingrich; openborders; primaries; regularization
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To: Jane Long
Putting 11 million in cattle cars advocated by “plenty of FReepers”? Really? ...

Stop with the sensationalism

Cattle cars eh?
Umm..when is the last time you saw any illegal being deported out of this country in cattle cars?
And you accuse others of sensationalism? Exactly who is sensationalizing here?

41 posted on 11/23/2011 10:19:37 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: campaignPete R-CT

Nobody cares about leftist New Hampshire. Really.


42 posted on 11/23/2011 10:20:02 PM PST by Politicalmom
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To: SmokingJoe
I didn't make the statement regarding cattle cars...I questioned it.

See post #4, of which I was replying to.

43 posted on 11/23/2011 10:24:11 PM PST by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

Hey, I resemble that remark! Just joking. at any rate, thanks for the ground game G-2/advice! ;-)


44 posted on 11/23/2011 10:26:52 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Dislaimer: I am in full support of Mr. Herman Cain for the GOP Nomination for President of the USA)
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To: steve86

Half a trillion might be a bargain if we send them home afterwards compared to keeping them on the public teat.


45 posted on 11/23/2011 10:26:52 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Jane Long

You are right. Apologies.


46 posted on 11/23/2011 10:29:54 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: Logical me

If you like to vote for a used car salesman, fine. Just don’t come home crying to us later when you discover a President Gingrich is as unfaithful to you as he was to his wives.


47 posted on 11/23/2011 10:30:39 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: SmokingJoe

Its a strawman argument. No one is proposing to ship illegals home in cattle cars. They can be put on a plane and their country can be billed for the cost of repatriating them.


48 posted on 11/23/2011 10:33:40 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: newheart
Somehow the concept of “Do justice. Love mercy. And walk humbly with your God” (Micah 6:8) does not line up especially well with the idea of putting 11 million Hispanics into cattle cars (Yes, plenty of Freepers advocate this) and shipping them back to Mexico.

I challenge you to name just one FReeper who advocates putting 11 million Hispanics into cattle cars and shipping them back to Mexico

49 posted on 11/23/2011 10:46:15 PM PST by Isabel C.
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To: goldstategop

Wikipedia’s definition of an open border is “a border that enables free movement of people between different jurisdictions with limited or no restrictions to movement.”

Since Newt believes in securing the border, he doesn’t fit the definition of an open border Republican.


50 posted on 11/23/2011 10:50:15 PM PST by Mari2525
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To: Logical me
Hopefully we won't need your vote.

You didn't need our vote to get McCain thru the primary either...How'd that work out for ya???

You guys are taking the wrong approach...It appears to me that you guys will vote for any Republican who wins the primary...

You'd be wise to support the candidate of those people who will NOT vote for just any Republican who wins the primary...

51 posted on 11/23/2011 11:09:51 PM PST by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: newheart

“Do justice”

They broke the law. Where is the justice for that?


52 posted on 11/23/2011 11:11:13 PM PST by TheZMan (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2794639/posts)
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To: newheart
Somehow the concept of “Do justice. Love mercy. And walk humbly with your God” (Micah 6:8) does not line up especially well with the idea of putting 11 million Hispanics into cattle cars (Yes, plenty of Freepers advocate this) and shipping them back to Mexico.

Stop abusing the Bible with leftist HERESY and HISTORICAL REVISIONISM. Foreign invaders were not given amnesty. They were not treated compassionately. They were killed.

No one is calling for 11 million in "cattle cars". Buses will do, since we are deporting criminals, not murdering people. But such measures are not necessary, for the most part. Criminal invaders self deport from states that enforce laws. They will self-deport from the country.
53 posted on 11/23/2011 11:34:36 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: newheart

I don’t believe in suicide, do you?

My biggest problems with illegals ... other than that they ARE illegal.

1. They come here to steal us blind-— they ride the US gravy train with multiple identities which “impoverished” illegals buy for several thousand dollars each. Vote-crazed candidates do not directly address this outrage—— probably b/c illegals vote several times each, using forged and faked ID’s. - “... but Perry won’t touch it with a ten foot pole since he collapsed over his in-state tuition handouts. Neither can be trusted to do what’s necessary....... cut out ALL benefits.

2. Illegals have no intention of becoming Americans. They pocket all the US benefits they can get, and want to force their culture on the rest of us. NO candidate EVER questions their loyalties........and the threat this poses to US N’tl security.

Do they really care about this country? Do they even understand this country beyond what they can GET from it. Read on.


DID PERRY MAKE A DEAL WITH LA RAZA to place Raza studies (Mexican-American studies) in Texas schools?

Raza studies have been taught in Arizona for a decade...... then they passed a law against it.... but it still goes on.

RAZA STUDIES One of the textbooks used is titled “Occupied America,” which was written by Rodolfo Acuña and includes a speech given by activist and university professor Jose Angel Gutierrez in which he says: “We have got to eliminate the gringo, and what I mean by that is if the worst comes to the worst, we have got to kill him,” (pg. 323). The book also talks about the need for Mexico to re-take seven states in the Southwestern United States.

The following rather shocking quotes are taken directly from Occupied America (pg. 167):

“Supporters would execute all White Males over age 16,” (also known as the Plan of San Diego).

“The Southwest would become a Chicano nation.”

In addition to using taxpayer funds to enforce such polarizing beliefs in Latino children in traditional public schools, the organization known as La Raza operates 100 charter schools across the country.

The following is a select list of La Raza charter schools:

-La Academia Semillas del Pueblo (Los Angeles)

-Atzlan Academy (Tucson, AZ)

-Mexicayotl Academy (Nogales, AZ)

-The Dolores Huerta Prepatory High School (Pueblo, CO)

-Academia Cesar Chavez Charter School (St. Paul, MN)

In 2005 alone, $7.9 million in taxpayer funding was given out to these charter schools in the form of U.S. Department of Education grants. These schools stress Latino culture, the Spanish language, the re-conquest of the American Southwest, the establishment of the mythical Atzlan, and even Aztec math.

Anyone who comes here legally to become a part of the United States I welcome with open arms. To those who want to kill us, I will return the favor.


54 posted on 11/23/2011 11:36:55 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: xzins
When America finally realize that we are not permitted by law to get rid of anchor babies, who are legitimate American citizens, then they’ll realize that we’re not getting rid of their parents, and by extension, their grandparents.
Sorry, but the ersatz kritocrats have not rewritten the Constitution here, yet. The Supreme Court case, United States v. Wong Kim Ark, is about the children of legal immigrants. Congress can strip citizenship from each one of the criminal beneficiaries.
55 posted on 11/23/2011 11:37:34 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: Mari2525
Newt was in congress for 20 years. Never once has he introduced or co-sponsored a bill to enforce current laws. He sabotaged efforts to enforce immigration laws in 1994-6, when many Democrats were open to doing so. So why should we believe his election-year promise?
56 posted on 11/23/2011 11:42:48 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: AmericanInTokyo

U.K. Guardian should mind their own business and take care of their own immigration problems...Just saying.


57 posted on 11/24/2011 12:16:41 AM PST by Goldie Lurks (professional moonbat catcher)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

“Believe me, Newt’s crack wonk team is in full battle dress mode for this one, and will have some clever damage control narrative dusted off and pushed out there”

Is this the same crack team that failed to file the proper paperwork, meaning Newt’s name won’t be on the primary ballot in Missouri?


58 posted on 11/24/2011 12:16:50 AM PST by bwc2221
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To: Logical me
What's your plan?

Operation Wetback

How Eisenhower solved illegal border crossings from Mexico

59 posted on 11/24/2011 2:34:39 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: newheart
Ever hear of the concept of self-deportation? Take away the bennies, the paid public educations, forcing emergency rooms to provide treatment, crack down on emplloyers, and guess what? Most will go back home.

And even then, so what if we have to still deport a few million? Do we give up on jailing lawbreakers because jail isn't pleasant?

I swear, I haven't seen such an outbreak of stupidity on FR in ages. All in the name of trying to spin away Newt's Beltway-addled mindset.

60 posted on 11/24/2011 3:01:58 AM PST by dirtboy
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