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Newt Gingrich holds town hall meeting in Naples (Packed, overflowing room!)
News Press ^ | 11-25-2011 | Bob Rathgeber

Posted on 11/25/2011 5:57:36 PM PST by TitansAFC

Is Newt Gingrich the latest flavor of the month among the candidates pursuing the Republican nomination for president? Or is he a real candidate who can beat the supposed frontrunner Mitt Romney?

If the reaction from his appearance Friday in Naples is even the slightest indication, then the former Speaker of the House will indeed challenge Romney for a spot on the ticket to face President Barack Obama next November.

At least 800 people crammed into the Hilton Hotel for a townhall meeting. The ballroom was jammed to the gills and loud speakers were added in the the hallways to accommodate those who weren’t allowed into the room.

He was a commanding presence at the lectern. He spoke for 39 minutes without notes and not once in his talk did he even utter one “uh.”

Gingrich speech was aimed at Obama and not his GOP opponents. He used his background as a history teacher to pepper his speech with historical milestones and repeatedly referred to the presidential race of 1860 between Abraham Lincoln and Stephen Douglas.

It was then that the two candidates held seven three-hour debates with no moderator, just a time keeper. As he has done in other speeches, Gingrich said that if he is nominated, he will challenge Obama to a series of Lincoln-Douglas-type debates.

He said he has a plan that would force the president into debating.

“You see,” Gingrich said, “when Lincoln challenged Douglas and he at first declined, Lincoln began following Douglas where he was speaking and the next day would answer Douglas. It didn’t take Douglas too long to agree to debate.

“So when I am nominated, I will let the White House be my schedule maker. Where ever Obama goes is where my schedule goes. I won’t show up the next day though, I will be there four hours after he speaks.”

In a speech interrupted by applause more than a dozen times, that brought the loudest and most sustained ovation.

In a debate last Tuesday, Gingrich spoke out about his immigration position, and he said, was misinterpreted by his GOP opponents. He said the tenents of his immigration plan are “Control the border, English is the official language of the United States, and it’s baloney, if anyone suggests that I favor amnesty for 11 million illegal immigrants.”

He said the government should make it easier for visitors to get visas. “It should be easier to disspell someone who is not desirable.”

Gingrich said his immigration stance hasn’t changed recently. “Check the transcripts of some debates. I said the same thing at the Reagan Library debate.”

Asked why the brouhaha now on immigration, he said it’s because he’s now running well in polls and his opponents are worried.

In essence, Gingrich appears to be setting himself up as the anti-Romney candidate, someone the tea party can turn to.

Barry Willoughby, founder of the Naples tea party movement, admitted that he has been skeptical about Gingrich, but is being won over to a degree.

“I’ve been following him lately and have been very impressed. I wasn’t that enthusiastic at first.

“The question remains ... is he electable. Does he have too much baggage.”

That also concerns Hal Molhoek of Naples.

“He has a firm grasp of the fact. He makes a lot of common sense. He knows the pulse of the country.

“I’m still not sure. I am a little concerned with his baggage.”

What would a townhall meeting be without an appeal for votes?

“Florida could be the decisive primary. If I win Florida I will be the nominee. I hope to do very well in Iowa and respectably in New Hampshire. We are the favorites in South Carolina. Right now I think Iowa is a jump ball,” he said.

“And, if you know anyone in Iowa, tell them to vote for me.”


TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; amnesty; bordercontrol; englishonly; gingrich; newt; obama
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To: writer33; napscoordinator

How is he to compete with Obama when Obama gets 30,000
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Newt’s not the nominee yet. When he gets the nomination, then the crowds will be huge. This is just a Primary run. Obozo is the President for goodness sakes and spoke recently in a hall that was only half full. Last time he was in Detroit, he couldn’t even get a decent crowd there. You’re comparing apples and oranges.


101 posted on 11/25/2011 10:35:24 PM PST by no dems (Why do you never see "Obama" bumper stickers on cars going to work in the morning?)
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To: Grunthor; TitansAFC

Grunthor: If you want to get technical, it more correctly would have been: “...the Debate this past Tuesday.” And you are incorrect as well: When you say “this Tuesday” that carries the connotation of the “upcoming” Tuesday, not the past Tuesday. Do you need to get a life, Bro.??? LOL... just messin’ with ya.


102 posted on 11/25/2011 10:39:27 PM PST by no dems (Why do you never see "Obama" bumper stickers on cars going to work in the morning?)
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To: GOP_Harley_Guy

So Newt is ‘90s and you don’t want to go back there? Well, hell, Reagan was ‘80s and I’d go back there in a heartbeat.


103 posted on 11/25/2011 10:43:23 PM PST by no dems (Why do you never see "Obama" bumper stickers on cars going to work in the morning?)
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To: moonhawk

LOL... anyway, she’s not all that.


104 posted on 11/25/2011 10:43:29 PM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: ThermoNuclearWarrior; All
because of his illegal immigration comments.......I do believe it will cost him the nomination.
Well, that sucks the big one. He is the only one who has come up with a logical solution to a very, very, very complex problem. If we Conservatives don't quit being so friggin' narrow-minded and "Johnny-one-note", we're gonna send our nominee into the General Election so wounded and bloodied, he will be no match for Obozo. We're pulling defeat from the jaws of victory.
105 posted on 11/25/2011 10:47:15 PM PST by no dems (Why do you never see "Obama" bumper stickers on cars going to work in the morning?)
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To: TitansAFC

Whether you think Newt is a rhino or historian or a politician, he is an excellent speaker just don’t ask him any poignant questions and don’t expect any Reganisk quotables from him.


106 posted on 11/25/2011 10:49:07 PM PST by Razzz42
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To: TitansAFC

Rick Santorum might surprise us coming out of Iowa. I like Rick, but the guy has the charisma of a foot stool.


107 posted on 11/25/2011 10:50:21 PM PST by no dems (Why do you never see "Obama" bumper stickers on cars going to work in the morning?)
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To: Clemenza
Fatboy Newt has about as much a chance of getting the nomination as I do of bedding Scarlett Johanssen.
I told Scarlet what you said and she said that's not so. She said Newt's chance of getting the nomination was 10,000 times better than your chance of ever getting her in bed.
108 posted on 11/25/2011 10:54:00 PM PST by no dems (Why do you never see "Obama" bumper stickers on cars going to work in the morning?)
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To: Iron Munro
Since his presentation of his amnesty plane he probably would have had an even better turnout in Immokalee

It will be nice when people stop swallowing the media and opponent hype parroting the sound bite and listen to what he has been outlining as his immigration stance all along - starting with POINT ONE: Close the border.

Anyone whose honest knows there is NO way to deport 12-14 million people, especially in this day and age of bleeding hearts that would tie each and every case up in courts for years.

Newt's plan is to put thousands of troops on the border along with more fencing in the main cross over areas and other viable detection methods. First, he says, is to STOP THE FLOW.

Then you systematically tackle the rest. more recent cross overs, criminals and gang members get deported FAST - no more "catch & release."

Those that have been here for decades, worked and raised families, decent people, can stay BUT - READ WITH COMPREHENSION - Do NOT get citizenship and cannot vote and will be kept track of.

He will move the job of tracking out out gov't hands and put it into outfits that know how to track objects.

English will be the official language of this country.

Of course, honest people can research his web site and read his whole plan. And they can ask other candidest who spout off talking points they think the public wants to hear: "Just what are your step by step plans on immigration?

109 posted on 11/25/2011 10:54:10 PM PST by maine-iac7 (A prudent man foreseeth the evil,... but the simple pass on, and are punished. Prov 23:3 KJV)
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To: tumblindice

Your Post #40 really did make me LOL!!! Thanks.


110 posted on 11/25/2011 10:55:53 PM PST by no dems (Why do you never see "Obama" bumper stickers on cars going to work in the morning?)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

He has a big ego. Anyone who runs for President has a big ego.


111 posted on 11/25/2011 10:57:40 PM PST by no dems (Why do you never see "Obama" bumper stickers on cars going to work in the morning?)
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To: Apollo5600
I myself will keep working for an actual conservative candidate, of which we have quite a few.
Yes we do have quite a few. My choice, after Newt, is Herman Cain. I love Rick Santorum, but the guy is so bland. Obozo's charisma would make him look like a Sad Sack.
112 posted on 11/25/2011 11:00:47 PM PST by no dems (Why do you never see "Obama" bumper stickers on cars going to work in the morning?)
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To: montag813

Who is your candidate montag813?


113 posted on 11/25/2011 11:02:10 PM PST by no dems (Why do you never see "Obama" bumper stickers on cars going to work in the morning?)
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To: TitansAFC
Speaker of the House will indeed challenge Romney for a spot on the ticket to face President Barack Obama next November.

Of course! My family members were together over Holiday and discussed our preference for Pres. for the first time since the primary race began....interesting is all but one is gravitating for Newt...and that was with no prior discussions about him but all have watched the debates and take their vote seriously. This was great news for me!

114 posted on 11/25/2011 11:11:57 PM PST by caww
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To: TitansAFC
The ballroom was jammed to the gills and loud speakers were added in the the hallways to accommodate those who weren’t allowed into the room....Newt was a commanding presence at the lectern.

When a candidate has something 'of substance' to say people want to listen. When people understannd there might be hope after all...they will be there to learn more.

115 posted on 11/25/2011 11:16:21 PM PST by caww
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To: TitansAFC

He said he has a plan that would force the president into debating........

“So when I am nominated, I will let the White House be my schedule maker. Where ever Obama goes is where my schedule goes. I won’t show up the next day though, I will be there four hours after he speaks.”

Oh this is going to be fun!!!.... LOL....ya gotta love Newt for being a hound when it comes to Obama! He isn’t going to make it comfortable for the man who has brought our country down. I love it!

Newt’s going to expose Obama for exactly what he is!...and in full view of the audiance.


116 posted on 11/25/2011 11:21:41 PM PST by caww
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To: GBA
I'm willing to hear him out and give him a chance to change my opinion one way or another. I remember the glory days of the Reagan Revolution and long for a return to a better way. Newt was a part of it and knows how it's done.

I was where you are now a few weeks back....not sure now why I began to look closer except in the debates he addressed issues head on....he WANTS this Presidency and after investigating Newt's past it's clear that he means business about ousting Obama and changing the trajectory this nation is on.

When his campaign seemed to be falling apart he rose above it and just kept on keeping on.....now that's a victory in itself and against all odds. That also got my attention...he's a fighter and willing to do so and that's what our nation needs. It clearly showed he means business.

I'm tired of people who want the title of President but unwilling to develope a convincing plan, and in many cases no plan at all.....Newt's got them and putting them out there for us to see...like it or not....he's going for this and that fully armed.....I want someone to fight for this nation, Newt will do that...I am convinced.

117 posted on 11/25/2011 11:34:37 PM PST by caww
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To: BobL
Wow. I guess he is the best hope of Illegals, and they appear to really want to hear what he has to say.

Well there's a couple ways you can take this....One...he's going to need their votes and all the candidates will be appealing to them. Two....it's an excellant way to offset the black majority vote for BO...so that our side wins!

118 posted on 11/25/2011 11:40:28 PM PST by caww
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To: altura

Perry is too accomodating to the muslim community...his state is full of them and he doesn’t see them anymore of a threat then he does the hispanics coming in.


119 posted on 11/25/2011 11:43:35 PM PST by caww
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To: no dems; onyx

Rotflol....now that was a perfect comeback! hahahaha


120 posted on 11/25/2011 11:47:21 PM PST by caww
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To: CelesteChristi

My sister- in-law wrote from Florida when Newt and Cain were both there....but like you learned it after the fact or she would have been there. Sorry you missed Newt....:(

I am happy to share my family members are fast coming into Newt’s court now...and that without my imput! Makes me glad!


121 posted on 11/25/2011 11:52:56 PM PST by caww
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To: no dems
Who is your candidate montag813?

I like Cain, and still think he could be the secret sauce to defeat Obozo. But he may not be able to recover. If Newt wins I will get behind him 100%, however. If Newt crashes and Romney too for some reason, then it is possible some new candidiates may come in before June. This whole crew seems unfinished somehow. I am sure I'm not alone in feeling we are missing some great would-be nominee out there somewhere.

122 posted on 11/26/2011 12:03:45 AM PST by montag813
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To: montag813

I’m not alone in feeling we are missing some great would-be nominee out there somewhere.
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We are, and you wanna know why? People like Jim DeMint, Sarah Palin and others won’t run because if the media doesn’t crucify them, their fellow Conservatives will if they don’t toe the line every step of the way.


123 posted on 11/26/2011 12:44:07 AM PST by no dems (Why do you never see "Obama" bumper stickers on cars going to work in the morning?)
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To: maine-iac7
It would be an election season to enjoy - watching that little Caesar get whittled down to a grease spot on the stage.

LOL!

I'd love to see a Newt priority be VOTER FRAUD also.
* border control
* english only as national language
* voter ID required

124 posted on 11/26/2011 5:13:57 AM PST by b9 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_hd23sdf4CE)
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To: maine-iac7
English will be the official language of this country.

That alone would cause immediate self-deportation,
especially here in San Diego!

Wow, would I love to see ENGLISH spoken here!!!!
No more bilingual classrooms.

Asians, especially, assimilate fast because they have to.

125 posted on 11/26/2011 5:34:18 AM PST by b9 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_hd23sdf4CE)
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To: no dems

I notice that sometimes in puff pieces the writer, if they bring up any negative that the candidate was involved in or said, tries to make it seem like “old news.”

Reading that line gave me that feeling. If I was wrong, I am not too big of a man to admit it.


126 posted on 11/26/2011 5:42:23 AM PST by Grunthor (pro-illegal alien "conservatives" piss me off.)
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To: no dems

“He is the only one who has come up with a logical solution to a very, very, very complex problem.”

They broke the law. Both parties want to reward them for it. What’s so complicated?


127 posted on 11/26/2011 5:48:47 AM PST by Grunthor (pro-illegal alien "conservatives" piss me off.)
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To: not2worry

You always know who the smartest, most humane person is when Newt’s in the room, he’s the one with the big neon sign on his head.


128 posted on 11/26/2011 5:48:50 AM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: no dems

“if they don’t toe the line every step of the way.”

How about if they are with us on all of the big issues and 90% of the smaller issues?


129 posted on 11/26/2011 5:51:14 AM PST by Grunthor (pro-illegal alien "conservatives" piss me off.)
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To: maine-iac7
One wonders if the posters that keep saying these half truths do so deliberately or because they don't’ do due diligence research?

How can you call it half-truths, I've listened to him speak? I don't know how it's jealously either, there are many smart people in DC who are well respected.

If Gingrich is the nominee then we will be stuck with four more years of Obama picking Supreme Court Justices; primary voters may be willing to overlook such arrogance but many in the general will not.

130 posted on 11/26/2011 5:58:13 AM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: no dems
He has a big ego. Anyone who runs for President has a big ego.

True but the ones who flaunt it don't last long.

131 posted on 11/26/2011 6:00:14 AM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: TitansAFC
In a debate last Tuesday, Gingrich spoke out about his immigration position, and he said, was misinterpreted by his GOP opponents. He said the tenents of his immigration plan are “Control the border, English is the official language of the United States, and it’s baloney, if anyone suggests that I favor amnesty for 11 million illegal immigrants.”

There's a lot of morons running around here with egg all over their faces. All I got to say to them is, pipe down sparky.

132 posted on 11/26/2011 6:13:21 AM PST by ez ("Abashed the Devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton, "Paradise Lost")
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To: ez
English is the official language of the United States,

That's demagoguery and Newt knows it. Such a bill would never get through the Senate but it makes for easy red meat that a lot of primary voters fall for apparently.

133 posted on 11/26/2011 6:24:03 AM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: caww

“Well there’s a couple ways you can take this....One...he’s going to need their votes and all the candidates will be appealing to them. Two....it’s an excellant way to offset the black majority vote for BO...so that our side wins! “

While it’s true that Newt may need to pander to minorities to get the votes, a CONSERVATIVE will not, as the base will come out, and the base will vote Republican. A non-conservative, like Newt, besides demoralizing the base (like McCain did) also has to worry about a Third Party coming from the right...which WILL happen this time.


134 posted on 11/26/2011 6:54:25 AM PST by BobL (Send Rove a Message, VOTE CAIN, no matter what)
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To: no dems

I quite agree.


135 posted on 11/26/2011 7:10:45 AM PST by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!)
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To: maine-iac7
It will be nice when people stop swallowing the media and opponent hype parroting the sound bite and listen to what he has been outlining as his immigration stance all along - starting with POINT ONE: Close the border.

That might be nice.

But your dilema is how to spin it to those of us who actually watched and listened to the debate and heard every word Newt spoke.

Hmmm....

And here is a news flash to your POINT ONE:

Closing the border is a seperate issue from the granting of amnesty. Don't conflate the two.

Allowing people who broke the law entering and broke the law working here under bogus identities to remain here legally is amnesty no matter how you or anyone else attempts to parse the word.


136 posted on 11/26/2011 7:16:57 AM PST by Iron Munro (Ben Raines For President)
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To: caww

We can get a fair amount of the black vote as well - put Herman on the ticket.


137 posted on 11/26/2011 7:20:39 AM PST by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!)
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To: llandres

Yes, I do think Herman will have a possible roll down the road here...if he rises above the thicket he’s fallen in....either or he does appeal to some...but on a whole the black vote still remains in Obamas court...especially those who love the handouts.


138 posted on 11/26/2011 11:08:19 AM PST by caww
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To: Iron Munro
Allowing people who broke the law entering and broke the law working here under bogus identities to remain here legally is amnesty no matter how you or anyone else attempts to parse the word.

It doesn't take much to understand they've broken the law...but 'Amnesty is citizenship' in relationtion to Immigration LAw... and that is not what Newt wants nor does he support that.....a close look at his plan and his invite by others to tweek it so their won't be Amnesty is open for all to contribute instead of just moaning and groaning why it won't work.

139 posted on 11/26/2011 11:11:32 AM PST by caww
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To: caww
Herman Cain on Illegal Immigration




If you're thinkin like me - Let's drain the swamp in D - C...Go Cain.
140 posted on 11/26/2011 7:05:34 PM PST by Fred ("The terrorists' want to kill us, so we need to kill them first!" http://hermancain.com)
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To: Fred
Fred...although it's admirable Cain spoke of what needs to be done, this is common knowledge for most and is the same ol problem for years and years. He needs a plan of “how” to effectively address those problems....he doesn't have one.

The laws that are in place obviously aren't working because the whole system of immigration is antiquated and filled with so much bureaucracy any lawyer can find loopholes and means to stall the process. It has to be changed and the only way for that is development of what that would be. Cain didn't mention “how”.

Mentioning securing the border is a given and nothing new about that...we all know this has to be done..but again Cain offered no details how he would secure it.

Cain has needed to up his game for some time now and simply has not offered more than is generally known...and this without concrete direction...or specifics to getting the job done.

No doubt he means well..he just isn't where he needs to be to go to the next level....and we are seeing this on a consistent.

141 posted on 11/26/2011 9:05:50 PM PST by caww
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To: caww

That is what the liberals all keep saying. Only a fool listens to liberals and Rinos


142 posted on 11/26/2011 9:55:00 PM PST by Fred ("The terrorists' want to kill us, so we need to kill them first!" http://hermancain.com)
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To: caww; All

To all Newt supporters, time to come clean.

You support Obamacare as Newt does and you support Amnesty as Newt does.

Be proud of your support and make your case as to why Obamacare is good for us and Amnesty.

Say it I am a proud supporter of Newtcare and Amnesty.


143 posted on 11/26/2011 9:58:40 PM PST by Fred ("The terrorists' want to kill us, so we need to kill them first!" http://hermancain.com)
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To: Fred

Fred...get off your high horse and be civil about this without putting yourself in the catagory of those who play the tactics of the name blame game...you should be above that nonesense.

There’s not a single Newt supporter who is for Obamacare and you well know that so quite talking out your rear. You can be more than irritated that we are not in Cain’s court...that’s fine...we all have the right to choose who we support.

But it’s getting pretty nasty on these threads and those who beat on fellow Freeper individuals who are discussing the candidates, who genuinely want those discussions are going to vacate this place if it continues as is. Some have already done so for how thick the riduculous responses are.

At some point a truce has to ensue....can you be first?


144 posted on 11/26/2011 10:28:06 PM PST by caww
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To: no dems

Newt is no Reagan.

Newt is so yesterday as well.

I look forward, not back.


145 posted on 11/27/2011 11:19:27 AM PST by GOP_Harley_Guy
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To: Clemenza

Who do you like?


146 posted on 11/28/2011 12:58:07 PM PST by angcat (NEW YORK YANKEES!)
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To: TitansAFC; napscoordinator
I was looking for some other comments, and stumbled across this one.

So, are you running the Santorum ping list yet? He seems to have shown "real movement" after all.....

147 posted on 02/18/2012 7:58:24 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: GOP_Harley_Guy
Nominate Newt, and you’re making a mistake — replaying the ‘90s all over again

You mean the 1990's when Conservatives had real power?

So, I guess you'd prefer to nominate Santorum and replay the '50s.

148 posted on 02/18/2012 8:12:29 AM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Fred

Fred, Fred, Fred ..... have you ever met the truth? Try it. Posting truth might enhance your credibility.


149 posted on 02/18/2012 8:20:17 AM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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