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Newt Gingrich holds town hall meeting in Naples (Packed, overflowing room!)
News Press ^ | 11-25-2011 | Bob Rathgeber

Posted on 11/25/2011 5:57:36 PM PST by TitansAFC

Is Newt Gingrich the latest flavor of the month among the candidates pursuing the Republican nomination for president? Or is he a real candidate who can beat the supposed frontrunner Mitt Romney?

If the reaction from his appearance Friday in Naples is even the slightest indication, then the former Speaker of the House will indeed challenge Romney for a spot on the ticket to face President Barack Obama next November.

At least 800 people crammed into the Hilton Hotel for a townhall meeting. The ballroom was jammed to the gills and loud speakers were added in the the hallways to accommodate those who weren’t allowed into the room.

He was a commanding presence at the lectern. He spoke for 39 minutes without notes and not once in his talk did he even utter one “uh.”

Gingrich speech was aimed at Obama and not his GOP opponents. He used his background as a history teacher to pepper his speech with historical milestones and repeatedly referred to the presidential race of 1860 between Abraham Lincoln and Stephen Douglas.

It was then that the two candidates held seven three-hour debates with no moderator, just a time keeper. As he has done in other speeches, Gingrich said that if he is nominated, he will challenge Obama to a series of Lincoln-Douglas-type debates.

He said he has a plan that would force the president into debating.

“You see,” Gingrich said, “when Lincoln challenged Douglas and he at first declined, Lincoln began following Douglas where he was speaking and the next day would answer Douglas. It didn’t take Douglas too long to agree to debate.

“So when I am nominated, I will let the White House be my schedule maker. Where ever Obama goes is where my schedule goes. I won’t show up the next day though, I will be there four hours after he speaks.”

In a speech interrupted by applause more than a dozen times, that brought the loudest and most sustained ovation.

In a debate last Tuesday, Gingrich spoke out about his immigration position, and he said, was misinterpreted by his GOP opponents. He said the tenents of his immigration plan are “Control the border, English is the official language of the United States, and it’s baloney, if anyone suggests that I favor amnesty for 11 million illegal immigrants.”

He said the government should make it easier for visitors to get visas. “It should be easier to disspell someone who is not desirable.”

Gingrich said his immigration stance hasn’t changed recently. “Check the transcripts of some debates. I said the same thing at the Reagan Library debate.”

Asked why the brouhaha now on immigration, he said it’s because he’s now running well in polls and his opponents are worried.

In essence, Gingrich appears to be setting himself up as the anti-Romney candidate, someone the tea party can turn to.

Barry Willoughby, founder of the Naples tea party movement, admitted that he has been skeptical about Gingrich, but is being won over to a degree.

“I’ve been following him lately and have been very impressed. I wasn’t that enthusiastic at first.

“The question remains ... is he electable. Does he have too much baggage.”

That also concerns Hal Molhoek of Naples.

“He has a firm grasp of the fact. He makes a lot of common sense. He knows the pulse of the country.

“I’m still not sure. I am a little concerned with his baggage.”

What would a townhall meeting be without an appeal for votes?

“Florida could be the decisive primary. If I win Florida I will be the nominee. I hope to do very well in Iowa and respectably in New Hampshire. We are the favorites in South Carolina. Right now I think Iowa is a jump ball,” he said.

“And, if you know anyone in Iowa, tell them to vote for me.”


TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; amnesty; bordercontrol; englishonly; gingrich; newt; obama
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To: GBA

Newt is actually fun to listen to. He is glib and articulate and knows a lot about a lot of things, including things not related to politics.

He has a million ideas and would implement some good ones and some bad ones.

I’ll take him over the others, but Rick Perry is the best candidate running. He does have the occasional pause and an ‘uh’ here and there, but we know what he would do because he’s done it in Texas.


51 posted on 11/25/2011 7:08:22 PM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: Graewoulf
Newt, you left out how YOU are going to pay for the 2.6 Trillion dollars in entitlement payments to these 11 million illegal aliens.

Newt will just make the 1% pay their fair share /SARCASM Squared
52 posted on 11/25/2011 7:10:19 PM PST by federal__reserve (Only Herman Cain could break up Barack's 95% black voting block down to 75-80%.)
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To: TitansAFC

Go Newt!!!!!!!!!!!!


53 posted on 11/25/2011 7:24:23 PM PST by DungeonMaster (Now we be president again !)
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To: TitansAFC
He was a commanding presence at the lectern. He spoke for 39 minutes without notes and not once in his talk did he even utter one “uh.”

He comes across like a confident if arrogant professor. The problem is, it is an illusion. He is a corporate whore, who will sell out the base in favor of the Chamber on illegal alien amnesty. He is the king of crony capitalists, having netted $115 million in just 6 years to sell his influence with his former colleagues. He isn't the first politico to cash in, but the first to make the jump, and then have the gall to run for office - the presidency, no less. He is a dead candidate walking. Debates with Obama? He would be 20 pts down before they even began. thankfully he won't make it that far, as he unzipped his fly on illegals this week. He is done.

54 posted on 11/25/2011 7:25:01 PM PST by montag813
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To: sanjuanbob

They both support mandates and amnesty - Obama will make that real clear in Newt’s special debates and so will the evil DNC machine...


55 posted on 11/25/2011 7:30:17 PM PST by Fred ("The terrorists' want to kill us, so we need to kill them first!" http://hermancain.com)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

“If he were half as smart ..”

Example of.... smart:

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/11/14/brutal-cain-blanks-on-libya-supports-collective-bargaining-for-public-employee-union/


56 posted on 11/25/2011 7:32:27 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~.. Newt/Bolton-2012."got a lot swirling around in my head.")
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To: TitansAFC

http://www.newt.org/


57 posted on 11/25/2011 7:33:05 PM PST by campaignPete R-CT (I will go back to New Hampshire to campaign.)
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To: TitansAFC

Go Newt!!!!!!!!!!!!


58 posted on 11/25/2011 7:37:13 PM PST by DungeonMaster (Now we be president again !)
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To: Gator113

The difference is in the arrogance of it. Even if Newt is “smart” I don’t need him telling me that all the time. Someone who does that either has an ego bigger than their head or is insecure.


59 posted on 11/25/2011 7:38:19 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: altura

He’s probably probably the smartest guy up there, and most dont like his personl life issues, but when looking at the big picture- romney is a Rino- Cain, who I like just doesnt know anyting about the rest of the world, however Newt would be smart to put him in a position to get job creation going. Perry has dug his own grave. We must pick the best of what we have and economic issues trumps mewts personal issues


60 posted on 11/25/2011 7:55:10 PM PST by mriguy67
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To: mriguy67

Studying this from all angles since day one. conclusion: Romney wins. Reason: conservatives will never settle on the only person with a breath of chance to win the primary. Looking at the second rate folks running, I don’t see anyone in that pack who has anything going for them except Newt. He does have baggage, but nothing that can’t be overcome by his intellect. Splitting the conservative vote will hand the primary to Mitt in every state. It’s either Newt or Romney unless Sarah somehow trumps the system.


61 posted on 11/25/2011 8:03:35 PM PST by WVNan (!)
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To: TitansAFC

HOW’S this folks...

GINGRICH/PALIN ‘12 IS THAT THE DREAM TEAM WE ALL WANT and LOVE?


62 posted on 11/25/2011 8:04:01 PM PST by flat
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To: TitansAFC

Douglas beat Lincoln.


63 posted on 11/25/2011 8:15:28 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: flat

It may come to that. Target Dec 4.


64 posted on 11/25/2011 8:18:53 PM PST by WVNan (!)
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To: mriguy67

Perry has not dug his own grave. He has the money and the will to fight on. Don’t count him out.

The Dallas Morning News took off on him this morning because he led the fight in Texas against sanctuary cities, even called a special session, but couldn’t get it passed.

He also mandated sonograms before abortions and got tort reform passed in Texas so doctors and businesses won’t be persecuted by frivolous lawsuits.

the Dallas Morning News thought those 3 priorities for Rick were just awful. I don’t think so.


65 posted on 11/25/2011 8:22:03 PM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: WVNan

You may be happy with either “Romney or Newt”, I myself will keep working for an actual conservative candidate, of which we have quite a few.


66 posted on 11/25/2011 8:26:28 PM PST by Apollo5600 (Cain 2012)
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To: WVNan

Everyone wants conservatives to unite behind one candidate.

However, everybody also wants that to be THEIR candidate.

Eventually one of the candidates will win. You may be right that if all the conservatives split their vote, it will leave Romney sittin’ pretty, but what can we do?

I can’t switch over to Cain. I can’t support Newt with all my heart although I would vote for him.

I can’t convince everyone to vote for Perry even though he’s obviously the best candidate.

So what can we do? It may end up being Newt.


67 posted on 11/25/2011 8:27:12 PM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: GOP_Harley_Guy
When are the other candidates going to bring up Newt's embarrassing party before principle debacle in the 2009 New York Congressional special election? That wasn't very long ago, and showed how untrustworthy the man is. He was on the same side as the log cabin republicans in endorsing the extremely liberal Republican candidate Dede Scozzafava(who was liberal even in comparison to other RINO’s), while almost all Conservatives, such as Sarah Palin and Fred Thompson, were endorsing the Conservative party candidate Doug Hoffman.

Everyone was angry with Gingrich back then, and saying he just ruined any chance at the Presidency he had with such a stupid endorsement. Then to no ones surprise the liberal Dede Scozzafava dropped out of the race, and endorsed the democrat candidate who went on to win a close election. There was no reason for Gingrich to have ever endorsed Scozzafave, because no Conservative could support a candidate like that and have principle.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dede_Scozzafava

http://www.hermancain.com/

68 posted on 11/25/2011 8:48:13 PM PST by ThermoNuclearWarrior (Support Herman Cain in the Republican Primary! Donate and Campaign for Herman Cain!)
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To: TitansAFC

Yeah, but did all those Italians in Naples understand anything he said?


69 posted on 11/25/2011 8:50:08 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: altura
I think that's pretty much what I'm saying. The conservative vote will be split so many ways, Romney walks in. Unless we can agree on one candidate other than Romney, he's it, and agreeing just is not going to happen.

Do you recall one of Sarah's last interviews with Hannity? She made a statement near the end of that interview that really caught my attention. She said, this is not going to be a "normal" election. this is going to be a very unusual election. Mark my words, it's going to be a VERY UNUSUAL election." Maybe not her exact words, but paraphrased. It was her emphasis that was so strong on the very unusual. I can't find the interview now, but her statement and the way she said it sure has stuck with me. It sounded like she knew something she wasn't telling.

70 posted on 11/25/2011 8:52:39 PM PST by WVNan (!)
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To: TitansAFC
He spoke for 39 minutes without notes and not once in his talk did he even utter one “uh.”

Obama would have to suck on a 'breathalyzer' in a debate with Newt.

71 posted on 11/25/2011 8:59:23 PM PST by eddie willers
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To: TitansAFC

Well, unless you were there the Naples News, a very liberal newspaper for this part of SWFL, didn’t report that the reason for the outpouring of attendance was due to the outrage of folks wanting to raise their voices against Newt’s Amensty Plan.

This was a Town Hall event, not his fundraiser. It was to be held at the Naples News Office Building on Vanderbilt Drive but the turn out started early and they had to move it to the Hilton down the road.

Most of the people were angry! There were, no doubt, Newt supporters who got seats and were the supporters in the crowd applauding and giving Newt standing O’s.

The paper then had an online poll, with the ability to vote only once. 58% said THEY WOULD NOT VOTE FOR NEWT. 39% SAID THEY WOULD VOTE FOR NEWT. The rest were UNDECIDED.

One of the chants that started with some of the group was pretty sweet:

Newt’s a little teapot short and stout
Tip him over and crap pours out

Your’s truly from God’s Waiting Room in SWFlorida


72 posted on 11/25/2011 9:00:43 PM PST by not2worry
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To: TitansAFC

PR at work. Too bad he won’t ever do any of the things the constitution states.


73 posted on 11/25/2011 9:00:55 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: WVNan

I’ll don’t know. At least Newt can ‘appear’ to be an alternative. Mitt’s just an old crustier, stiffer, whiter version of hussein in my book. And I think he’ll be eviscerated by the lib press and pundits.


74 posted on 11/25/2011 9:05:34 PM PST by moehoward
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To: Iron Munro

I’m not a fan of any candidate granting legal status to ANYONE here illegally. But, what candidate is going to throw them all out? Nobody. So........ for Michele Bachmann to criticize Newt after saying this in a previous debate is pure hypocrisy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiveQh7tx6I&feature=youtu.be

The media, as well as the Gingrich campaign, should be ALL OVER this. She would lose that whole 5% support she does have.


75 posted on 11/25/2011 9:07:06 PM PST by jageorge72 (http://www.newtvsobama.com)
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To: Iron Munro
LOL and if it were in Immokalee he would have had to use his Spanish, however, if he spoke to them using his usual Professor lingo none of them would have understood what he heck he was staying.....
76 posted on 11/25/2011 9:07:44 PM PST by not2worry
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To: lonestar
These guys have no clue about the conservative movement in Naples! The greater percentage of folks were there to blast Newt on his immigration plan.

I didn't see Governor Rick Scott there - but I could imagine the Great Charlie Crist being there supporting Newt. They share the same political philosophy.

77 posted on 11/25/2011 9:13:48 PM PST by not2worry
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To: TitansAFC

It was very similar to the townhall forum we attended a few weeks ago in Duluth, GA. The place was packed. Newt is very impressive in person and he sees the big picture. Like him or not he has a vision for America and he is very good at articulating it.


78 posted on 11/25/2011 9:14:58 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: TitansAFC
Is Newt Gingrich the latest flavor of the month among the candidates pursuing the Republican nomination for president?

I sure hope so. Unless the GOP voters are suffering from senility, I just don’t see how a pro-amnesty-global-warming-adulterer and liberal sympathizer like Newt can become the GOP nominee. Didn’t Perry catch so much grief for his in-state tuition plan, despite the plan having been kicked around the Texas legislature for a long time before winding up on his desk? The legislature was pushing for that bill and would continue to press the issue despite whatever Perry would do. And in any event, Perry opposes amnesty and wants the border secure, something Newt never cared much about?

I think the mentality of the GOP electorate nowadays is to nominate a glib, fast talker who can beat Obama with his verbal style and someone who sounds good no matter what he says. In what can be referred to as style over substance, it seems that as a voting block the GOP is betting on 'style.'

I don’t see how I could possibly vote for Romney or Newt. I think I will just have to sit out this election, as whether Romney or Newt wins the GOP nomination, Obama will most likely win the election.

79 posted on 11/25/2011 9:17:05 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: TitansAFC

You’re doing a great job Titans- Thanks!


80 posted on 11/25/2011 9:17:42 PM PST by matthew fuller (I stand with Leroy!)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

Fundamentally, you don’t understand, I’ve have experience working in the Reagan administration, I was the Speaker of the House, I, I, I, I, I, want to know you are inhumane for not wanting to house 12 million illegals in your state, send them to school, pay for their food, clothing and shelter and pay for it too!

As my dear late mother would have said, What an arrogant SOB.


81 posted on 11/25/2011 9:17:46 PM PST by not2worry
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To: not2worry

That’s rather funny, because there were a few Freepers there, and it was videotaped. Nobody saw anything of the kind, but you’re just sure the majority of people were there to protest, so it must be true.

The Miami Herald reported nothing that you said, either. Neither did WINK News, News Press, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, CNN, Newsmax, or the Freepers in attendance whom I have spoken to.

All of those sources reported the same thing: The crowd was there to support Newt, and enthusiastically so.

If you’re going to live out some fantasy that the venue had to be changed to hold gobs of angry Newt protesters, you should provide some support for your claims.

And really, an online poll? Really?


82 posted on 11/25/2011 9:18:28 PM PST by TitansAFC (Cain's answer on how to handle illegals who broke FEDERAL law? Let the states take care of it. Punt!)
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To: TitansAFC

Newt definitely has the “big mo” going for him now now.


83 posted on 11/25/2011 9:20:10 PM PST by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
I don't understand how you can read a article on T/R and determine the demographics of the crowd. Why are you so sure the listeners were Hispanic.Even if they were you should remember they vote.While you are all running around throwing out numbers with no basis in fact, the Hispanic people have found a person they could vote for.
84 posted on 11/25/2011 9:21:04 PM PST by BooBoo1000 ("Think for yourself")
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To: TitansAFC
And really, an online poll? Really?

I suspect any online poll that doesn't show Ron Paul winning with 92%

85 posted on 11/25/2011 9:22:05 PM PST by eddie willers
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To: eddie willers

LOL Too true!


86 posted on 11/25/2011 9:29:12 PM PST by TitansAFC (Cain's answer on how to handle illegals who broke FEDERAL law? Let the states take care of it. Punt!)
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To: TitansAFC

Hi—
Put me on the list (for now...). I want someone like Newt—but just not sure. Maybe the more I read the more I will be convinced.
Thanks


87 posted on 11/25/2011 9:29:45 PM PST by fatfertile
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To: BooBoo1000

Dude ????????


88 posted on 11/25/2011 9:32:11 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Victoria Delsoul

No matter how glib Newt is he will never beat Obama. Newt will never bring in swing voters and Independents.

He is a loser.


89 posted on 11/25/2011 9:32:41 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: BobL
Wow. I guess he is the best hope of Illegals, and they appear to really want to hear what he has to say.
(hopefully they brought their kids to translate)

You don't know much about Naples FL, do you?

90 posted on 11/25/2011 9:33:23 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: BobL

Naples, especially those who would be showing up at the Hilton, is mostly older white folks at their retirement or vacation condos. Immokalee, on the other hand, might have a sizable number of illegals.


91 posted on 11/25/2011 9:37:05 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ

More than you, brain-child...

http://www.203kforum.com/entry.php/54-The-%28Hosing-Bubble%29-Biggest-Looser-Naples-FL


92 posted on 11/25/2011 9:39:52 PM PST by BobL (Send Rove a Message, VOTE CAIN, no matter what)
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To: vladimir998; All
FINALLY!!! Someone gets it.

It's BRILLIANT.

Can't yo u just see the game - the nation would be watching, really paying attention. The press would be drawn in, like it or not, like they tagged along behind Sarah's bus tour, and obama is already sweating bullets. He's damned if he doesn't debate and done if he does - head to head with New who can speak for hours without even ONE teleprompter or "ah" or "Ummm" and who knows our history and Constitution verbatim...

It would be an election season to enjoy - watching that little Caesar get whittled down to a grease spot on the stage.

93 posted on 11/25/2011 9:57:01 PM PST by maine-iac7 (A prudent man foreseeth the evil,... but the simple pass on, and are punished. Prov 23:3 KJV)
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To: fatfertile

You have mail! Welcome.


94 posted on 11/25/2011 10:10:45 PM PST by matthew fuller (I stand with Leroy!)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest; All
you say: “If he were half as smart as he thinks he is then he wouldn't have been thrown out as Speaker. “

One wonders if the posters that keep saying these half truths do so deliberately or because they don't’ do due diligence research?

He was head and shoulders smarter than most of the pols in DC - ever hear of jealously? And as to all the ethics charges, put this in your pipes and...

"The demRats charged him with 84 ethics charges, true. He was a thorn in their sides, a very real threat to their existence. But how many people have bothered to research what the results of all those charges were? How many of those charges stuck?

ZERO....per:

Democrats filed 84 politically motivated ethics charges against Gingrich. All of them were found to be without merit. The last three were dismissed on Oct. 10, 1998. The fact is, not a single ethics charge filed against Speaker Gingrich was ever found to be based in fact — not one. Gingrich was cleared of any and all wrongdoing.
The fallout in the case resulted in an IRS investigation and a federal court case. Ultimately, Speaker Gingrich was cleared of any wrongdoing by the bipartisan House Ethics Committee, the IRS and a federal judge.” [1]

http://www.conservapedia.com/Newt_Gingrich

Hopefully, honest FREEPERS will cache this link and use it when others make mention of ‘Newt's ethics charges.”

95 posted on 11/25/2011 10:23:19 PM PST by maine-iac7 (A prudent man foreseeth the evil,... but the simple pass on, and are punished. Prov 23:3 KJV)
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To: Clemenza

“Fatboy Newt has about as much a chance of getting the nomination as I do of bedding Scarlett Johanssen.”

Scarlett will be sweating bullets after Iowa, New Hampshire, and South Carolina....


96 posted on 11/25/2011 10:26:04 PM PST by moonhawk (Broken Heart(less) Hobbit for Sarah...Now for Newt)
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To: TitansAFC

We have got to make sure that this guy is our nominee. Herman Cain is my second choice.


97 posted on 11/25/2011 10:29:31 PM PST by no dems (Why do you never see "Obama" bumper stickers on cars going to work in the morning?)
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To: Parley Baer

If you haven’t seen these - I think you will find them informative - for a starter.

This was in 2009, BTW

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xi9Kkpk-1So&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ceqhimfT_o&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIq08hWtris&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYu0sXrAD9Q&feature=bf_prev&list=PLC7D974B6FCC388CF&lf=results_main

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtjfMjjce2Y&feature=related

and there’s always his current web site -

http://www.newt.org/solutions

these just scratch the surface.


98 posted on 11/25/2011 10:31:31 PM PST by maine-iac7 (A prudent man foreseeth the evil,... but the simple pass on, and are punished. Prov 23:3 KJV)
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To: napscoordinator

Heck Sarah Palin filled stadiums.
______________________________________________________________

Earth to napscoordinator....Earth to napscoordinator.... HELLO!!! Sarah isn’t running. That’s a moot point. Do I wish she would have run? Hell yes; I love her. But, she’s not running. Can we move on Bro.?


99 posted on 11/25/2011 10:31:34 PM PST by no dems (Why do you never see "Obama" bumper stickers on cars going to work in the morning?)
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To: GBA

If you haven’t seen these - I think you will find them informative - for a starter.

This was in 2009, BTW

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xi9Kkpk-1So&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ceqhimfT_o&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIq08hWtris&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYu0sXrAD9Q&feature=bf_prev&list=PLC7D974B6FCC388CF&lf=results_main

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtjfMjjce2Y&feature=related

and there’s always his current web site -

http://www.newt.org/solutions

these just scratch the surface.


100 posted on 11/25/2011 10:34:14 PM PST by maine-iac7 (A prudent man foreseeth the evil,... but the simple pass on, and are punished. Prov 23:3 KJV)
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