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Michele Bachmann takes another swipe at Newt Gingrich over illegal immigration
desmoinesregister | 11/26/2011 | Jason Noble

Posted on 11/26/2011 3:12:59 PM PST by TBBT

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; bachmann; newt
Fair article and from the Des Moines Register (Iowa) no less.

Bachmann = desperate, frustrated, petty, little ankle biter?

Bachmann = dishonest?

Bachmann = hypocrite?

1 posted on 11/26/2011 3:13:01 PM PST by TBBT
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To: TBBT

Bucket brigade for Romney.


2 posted on 11/26/2011 3:14:17 PM PST by Jukeman
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To: TBBT

Bachmann = Somebody’s VP?


3 posted on 11/26/2011 3:14:28 PM PST by txhurl
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To: TBBT

Yet she says nothing about Romney’s abysmal record on immigration? Examples:

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/281066/romneycare-funded-health-care-illegal-immigrants-katrina-trinko
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rr6-CcOJPw

So disappointed that she has become an ankle biter for Romney.


4 posted on 11/26/2011 3:20:44 PM PST by Lady4Liberty (Watch Romney endorse Obama's radical liberal agenda: http://youtu.be/i1fThdWagJ4)
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To: TBBT

Can you refute what Bachmann is claiming?

It’s always attack the messenger from Newt supporters. Unfortunately he’s got a record a mile long when it comes to pandering to illegals and his Chamber of Commerce donors. I don’t need her to say anything.


5 posted on 11/26/2011 3:21:39 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

Here is what Bachmann has to say about it.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/greghengler/2011/11/25/debate_flashback_when_bachmann_supported_a_non-deportation_approach_to_illegal_immigration


6 posted on 11/26/2011 3:25:28 PM PST by Perdogg
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To: TBBT

I like Michelle. She’s truly a great Conservative voice in the US congress. But just once, I’d like to see her go after Romney on something. She’s gone after Perry, Cain and now Newt...but not Romney. What’s the deal Michelle?


7 posted on 11/26/2011 3:26:06 PM PST by 07Jack
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

Don’t need to refute anything when pointing out a case of “the pot calling the kettle black.”


8 posted on 11/26/2011 3:26:52 PM PST by TBBT
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To: Perdogg; TBBT
The difference here is an actual record. Gingrich's goes back to the 1980s where he has either voted for amnesties or hamstrung the then INS.

Bachmann does not have that history of illegal alien pandering. We might not even have these problems today if not for Newt and his handiwork in the 1990s. I really don't need him telling me he's going to "fix" a problem that he had a great part in creating.

9 posted on 11/26/2011 3:32:24 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: TBBT
Bachmann never actively worked to derail enforcement of illegal immigration laws as a member of the House. Gingrich used his power as Speaker to do so.

https://www.numbersusa.com/content/nusablog/beckr/november-23-2011/gingrich-shows-compassion-illegal-aliens-he-helped-stay-rooted-us.ht

You Newt-Nuts are worse than the Perry Fangirls.

10 posted on 11/26/2011 3:33:11 PM PST by bwc2221
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To: TBBT

It simply appears that she is trying to prove Jimmy Fallon right. How sad...


11 posted on 11/26/2011 3:34:49 PM PST by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: TBBT
“Dishonest ... hypocrite” - perhaps the two best words that describe Newt Gingrich.
12 posted on 11/26/2011 3:34:59 PM PST by bwc2221
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To: bwc2221

Would you rather have Romney? Because that’s what you’re going to get...


13 posted on 11/26/2011 3:37:01 PM PST by TBBT
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To: 07Jack
She’s gone after Perry, Cain and now Newt...but not Romney.

Which could only help Romney. What's up with that?

14 posted on 11/26/2011 3:45:03 PM PST by South40 (Just say NO to amnesty. Say NO to Newt!)
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To: South40
Which could only help Romney. What's up with that?

Romney/Bachmann 2012?

No other reason I can see.

If this is the case then..............

.....FUMR/FUMB.

15 posted on 11/26/2011 4:00:48 PM PST by Eaker (Nothing even remotely praising Romney should be posted because one should stick to the truth.)
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To: TBBT
Would you rather have Romney? Because that’s what you’re going to get...

Do you have a convincing argument that it would be better under Gingrich than Romney? I'm not so sure. Both have and would support mandated health care. Both have, and would, support some form of Amnesty. Both have and would continue to support big government and big spending. Gingrich appears to be more wacky when it comes to the environment. Neither are trustworthy or honest.

The choice between them is no choice at all.

16 posted on 11/26/2011 4:02:33 PM PST by Prokopton
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To: Eaker
If this is the case then.............. .....FUMR/FUMB.

If this is the case I agree.

17 posted on 11/26/2011 4:04:44 PM PST by South40 (Just say NO to amnesty. Say NO to Newt!)
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To: TBBT

“Would you rather have Romney? Because that’s what you’re going to get...”

It’s kind of like choosing between a major heart attack and cancer isn’t it.

Neither is a conservative and either will screw us in a heartbeat to appease the special interests. This was the year I was hoping not to hold my nose.


18 posted on 11/26/2011 4:14:04 PM PST by bwc2221
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To: Prokopton
Would you rather have Romney? Because that’s what you’re going to get...

Do you have a convincing argument that it would be better under Gingrich than Romney? I'm not so sure. Both have and would support mandated health care. Both have, and would, support some form of Amnesty. Both have and would continue to support big government and big spending. Gingrich appears to be more wacky when it comes to the environment. Neither are trustworthy or honest.

The choice between them is no choice at all.


I don't need a convincing argument that one would be better than the other. My main point is that if Newt is successfully taken out - you will get Romney. Now everybody is going to have to pick one or the other. Will it be Newt or is Romney going to win by default?

I'm sure many will argue that one of the others can - and perhaps will - win. It's my opinion that it's highly unlikely that any of the others will be able to stop Romney. Bachmann, Perry, and Cain, have all flown high only to eventually crash and burn. I don't believe any of those will experience a phoenix like resurrection. The fact that the electorate has already taken those candidates for a spin and has found them wanting, makes their resurgence even less likely. Santorum and Huntsman never even got off the ground. Paul is a nutcase and will not be the nominee.

Time is also a factor. There's not allot of time left to test drive another Not Romney candidate. Newt may very well be the last best chance to stop Romney.

Yes there was Huckabee and Iowa. Of course as we all know there was no GOP nominee Huckabee, let alone President Huckabee. Still, if another candidate has a chance - a remote chance - of being the next Not Romney, then it may be Santorum. Maybe Bachmann too, but even less likely. At least that's how I see it.

So if you are asking me - I will gladly pull the lever for Newt before I would pull it for Romney. I believe that this is what the choice has come down to. For me there is no question which way to go.
19 posted on 11/26/2011 4:55:59 PM PST by TBBT
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To: South40; 07Jack
I find it strange myself. Romney's the biggest RINO in the race (except for Huntsman) but she won't touch him. With each "flavor of the month" who's risen in the polls (Perry, Cain, etc.), she's went after them vigorously trying to tear them down. And yet Mitt is somehow excused from it all.

It's a shame because I liked Bachmann and was my personal favorite a few months ago. But I really don't understand her campaign decisions.

20 posted on 11/26/2011 4:59:00 PM PST by pcottraux (Alvin Greene/Basil Marceaux 2012)
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To: pcottraux

It’s not really that hard to understand. The 20-25% that support Romney are RINOs, and they will never support anyone else besides maybe Huntsman. Bachmann’s interests are best served by attacking those that could bleed support to her.


21 posted on 11/26/2011 5:01:35 PM PST by PAConservative1 (Myth, Ricardo, and AmNEWTsty - NON STARTERS!)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

Then the washed up has-been starts talking about “separating families”...that sounds more like the ACLU or La Raza. If anyone dares to tell me that crap I’m going to tell them that I have been separated from my political representation.JOIN THE FRIGGIN CROWD!!!!!


22 posted on 11/26/2011 5:03:55 PM PST by magna carta
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To: TBBT
I don't need a convincing argument that one would be better than the other.

Why not? If there's no difference, what's the point of the whole discussion?

23 posted on 11/26/2011 5:04:12 PM PST by Prokopton
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To: pcottraux

Candidates choose their VP running mates in part by what help that VP running mate can bring to the ticket. Romney is going to have a tough sell to conservatives. Having somebody like Bachmann as a VP would help Romney seal the deal. Bachmann appears to be keeping that option open - if not outright operating as a stalking horse - by keeping her gloves off Romney.


24 posted on 11/26/2011 5:08:26 PM PST by TBBT
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To: bwc2221; All

The last remaining non-Romney candidate left at the end will get most of the votes supporting all the non-Romney candidate.

This non-Romney “to-be-named” candidate is currently scoring about 50%.

Romney will retain his 22% or so establishment-type supporters. Those who vote for anything with an R on it.

The establishment machine will have to resort to extreme tactics bordering on illegality to make Romney the nominee.

Because a sizeable chunk of the electorate is utterly fed up with the Republican as well as the Democratic party machines.

At the convention, this non-Romney will gain a lot of momentum as the “loyal R” voters obediently support them and the working, tax-paying voting base suddenly becomes very excited about the possibility of the breath of fresh air brought in by someone looking to at least attempt to do battle with the lobbyist-politician machine.

I found these videos of Michele Bachmann to be very informative:

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/michelebachmann

Also, primary source information on Michele can be found via govtracker...

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/person.xpd?id=412216

And look at her list of top 100 contributors at opensecrets.org ! [lol] Ha ! A lot of “bigtime lobby interests there” - NOT ! It’s all from individuals, a smattering of yocals and tiny amounts. And most of them work for rather ho-hum small to medium companies. No wonder I agree with her positions on the issues - Jimmy Stewart didn’t have a contributor list as good as this.

http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/contrib.php?cid=N00027493&cycle=2012&type=I&newMem=N&recs=100

More from opensecrets.org - donor demographics (M/F and amount)... the smaller donation amounts signal support from the average Joe, larger donation amounts signal support from wealthier types...

Newt...
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres12/donordemCID.php?cycle=2012&id=N00008333
Michele...
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres12/donordemCID.php?cycle=2012&id=N00027493

Research - to find things out for yourself - don’t base your voting preference on emotion !

Just the facts, ma’am, just the facts.


25 posted on 11/26/2011 5:08:55 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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To: TBBT

Ask Bachman, if you’re not helping yourself, and she is not, whom is it you are helping? Hmmmmm? The duck thing— if it walks like, and quacks like ........?


26 posted on 11/26/2011 5:12:47 PM PST by RitaOK (Rasmussen- the polling standard for accuracy.)
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To: magna carta
Then the washed up has-been starts talking about “separating families”...that sounds more like the ACLU or La Raza.

This is good that Newt made his intentions known early, hopefully he goes away now.

27 posted on 11/26/2011 5:34:19 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: magna carta
Then the washed up has-been starts talking about “separating families”...that sounds more like the ACLU or La Raza.

This is good that Newt made his intentions known early, hopefully he goes away now.

28 posted on 11/26/2011 5:35:26 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

yes....


29 posted on 11/26/2011 5:48:51 PM PST by magna carta
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To: TBBT

All of the above. She has gone off the rail. I thought a lot of her in the beginning but she’s exposed a side of her that is not at all attractive.


30 posted on 11/26/2011 5:51:22 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: TBBT

Good point, which sort of makes sense from a business-side view of politics. But Bachmann always struck me as an idealist, who would put beliefs and principles above everything else.

I get that she’d try to bleed votes and support, because it’s politics, and that’s the name of the game. But still, she almost comes across as a leech rather than a serious player.

I might get flamed for saying it, but I completely agree with you on Gingrich, btw. I’m still hoping Cain will rebound but my instincts tell me he’s finished, and Gingrich is the last real hope we have to beat Romney. He has a colorful past but you can’t deny his experience. I’ve done some thorough research on his background and record and I think he’s traditionally been a lot more conservative than people here are giving him credit for. I won’t mind if he gets the nomination, and I’d sure take him over Romney, or especially Obama.


31 posted on 11/26/2011 6:19:49 PM PST by pcottraux (Alvin Greene/Basil Marceaux 2012)
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To: PAConservative1

True, and that makes sense from a business-like standpoint of politics. But I had always thought of her as more of an idealist. She’s coming across as a leech, which is very much beneath her.

I wouldn’t mind her as president (she was my first pick early on in the race), but she’s got a LONG way to go.


32 posted on 11/26/2011 6:26:01 PM PST by pcottraux (Alvin Greene/Basil Marceaux 2012)
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To: TBBT

Comments are a waste of time, we will get some one less than desirable whether we vote or not.


33 posted on 11/26/2011 6:27:18 PM PST by itsahoot (Throw them all out!)
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Do you always throw water on the one that points out your zipper is down. Everything she has said is true.


34 posted on 11/26/2011 6:49:48 PM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Newt, Willard, Perry and his fellow supporters.)
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To: pcottraux
Good point, which sort of makes sense from a business-side view of politics. But Bachmann always struck me as an idealist, who would put beliefs and principles above everything else. She is - above all else - a politician.

I might get flamed for saying it, but I completely agree with you on Gingrich, btw. I’m still hoping Cain will rebound but my instincts tell me he’s finished, and Gingrich is the last real hope we have to beat Romney.

Yes... You should be ready for flaming. Your continued support for Cain is admirable, but I think your instincts are most likely correct. Personally, I've always thought Cain was alright (caveat - assuming he's not guilty of the allegations). But, I never thought he was a good candidate. That's my opinion, and opinions vary. I think your conclusion is rational - not just because it agrees with me - and many others may be coming to the same realization.

Love or hate it - if they knock out Newt, we will have Mitt. That's they way I see it...
35 posted on 11/26/2011 7:02:20 PM PST by TBBT
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To: org.whodat

My zipper is never down... Unless of course I’m taking off my pants.


36 posted on 11/26/2011 7:05:27 PM PST by TBBT
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To: TBBT

That’s one of the reasons that I’m pretty much on full lurker mode nowadays. These campaign seasons get really nasty. People tend to get a little too emotionally invested. I personally think people have to keep an open mind and not become dead-set that one candidate is “America’s Only Hope.” In the end, only one of these people is going to get the nomination. And I like all of them except Huntsman and Romney, so I would be happy if any of them got it.

Every non-Romney candidate except for Paul, Huntsman, and Santorum has exploded to the top, then flamed out. It’s been an ugly, volatile race. Like you, I see Gingrich as the last viable option, unless Santorum pulls something miraculous at the last minute (which I sorta doubt).


37 posted on 11/27/2011 5:47:44 AM PST by pcottraux (Alvin Greene/Basil Marceaux 2012)
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To: pcottraux

Maybe she is trying to clear the way of the other candidates in her hope of taking on Romney at the end.


38 posted on 11/29/2011 4:30:44 PM PST by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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