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To: gunsequalfreedom
These nukes are not safe.

Nuclear energy is safe when used properly. The issue at Fukushima-Daiichi was an old plant design without safeguards in the event of a natural disaster of the magnitude that struck it. If they had improved the automatic shutdown systems some time over the last 40 years or so, there wouldn’t be an issue right now.

Nuclear energy is the cleanest, most efficient form of energy available to humanity. It makes as much sense to get rid of nuclear power as it does to convert huge tracts of otherwise habitable land into low-efficiency solar or wind farms as the environuts want to do.
17 posted on 11/26/2011 5:24:20 PM PST by Terpfen (Any candidate is better than Obama. Any.)
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To: Terpfen

Nuclear energy is the cleanest, most efficient form of energy available to humanity.


ransomnote: And you are posting this on a thread displaying a map showing the entire nation of Japan coated with radiation?

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If they had improved the automatic shutdown systems some time over the last 40 years or so, there wouldn’t be an issue right now.

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ransomnote: How grand of you to theorize in defense of nuke power. So you have decided your prophesy will exonerate the nuke power industry by implying the old ‘if only the peasants would let the nuke power industry build more and newer plants’!
Incompetence and mismanagement in the nuke power industry is entrenched and heavily defended and is responsible for Fukushim and Chernobyl. TEPCO was in trouble for lying about safety inspections (and publicly admitted it) BEFORE the disaster. TEPCO and Japan ignored research showing that the plant was in a seismically active area and exposed to risk of tsunami etc. Did you read how TEPCO rewarded an employee for concealing a flaw to a containment vessel which allowed TEPCO to save millions of dollars? I did! That vessel was bound for reactor 4 - I wonder what would have happened if it were in place when the earthquake hit - even with modern ‘shutdown’ capacity? What about placing all those nuke plants so close together and spent fuel held aloft so no one can get close enough to keep water in the spent fuel pool as the area becomes more radioactive? If a spent fuel pool fails from continued seismic activity - no one will be able to get near the other spent fuel pools to maintain them. How about the fact that Japan built the worlds largest nuclear power plant in the world without realizing that it was placed atop a seismic fault?
Once something goes wrong - nuke power companies like TEPCO simply refuse to cooperate with the public interest but just circle the wagons and the government helps lie and cover for them because the government is their insurer. Tell me, how is the insurer stepping up to the plate in japan? Did you read that TEPCO asserts that radioactive cesium is the responsibility of the landowner and does not ‘belong’ to TEPCO. I did. These are just a few of the incompetent, vile mismanagement aspects of the nuclear power industry (responsible for Fukushima) that modern ‘shutdown systems’ would not address.


19 posted on 11/26/2011 5:39:44 PM PST by ransomnote
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To: Terpfen
Nuclear energy is safe when used properly. The issue at Fukushima-Daiichi was an old plant design without safeguards in the ...

Were you the one telling me the Fukushima-Daiichi plant was not a problem as it was exploding?

Nukes are inherently unsafe. Conditions that caused the problems at Fukushima-Daiichi might not repeat themselves at another nuke plant in the U.S., but other unforeseen conditions can.

The argument that because conditions do not exist here that were present at Fukushima-Daiichi is fallacious logic.

26 posted on 11/26/2011 7:05:32 PM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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