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Can Cain Mount a Comeback? (Cain on Fox and Friends)
Fox and Friends ^ | 11/28/11 | Fox and Friends

Posted on 11/28/2011 8:07:58 AM PST by justsaynomore

Cain discusses his position in the polls, illegal immigration, and the release of his 999 movie

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 999; cain; hermancain; immigration; polls
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1 posted on 11/28/2011 8:08:09 AM PST by justsaynomore
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To: justsaynomore

He needs a thought that doesn’t include any 9’s.......

It’s become meaningless.


2 posted on 11/28/2011 8:11:58 AM PST by G Larry ("I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his Character.")
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To: justsaynomore

If we don’t want Mitt Romney (and eventually Obama), we better hope so.


3 posted on 11/28/2011 8:12:15 AM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: G Larry
He needs a thought that doesn’t include any 9’s.......

That's his problem. Cain is a one trick pony. He used 999 and his motivational speaking skills to bluff his way this far, but he simply doesn't understand the issues very well. Once he has to venture away from 999 it exposes his policy ignorance and people move away from him.

"I've got all this stuff twirling around in my head" and "we need a leader, not a reader" are simply not sufficient answers to policy questions.

4 posted on 11/28/2011 8:15:56 AM PST by Longbow1969
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To: K-oneTexas; Tucker822; Kartographer; freekitty; carmody; Dead Corpse; MsLady; Publius772000; ...

Pinganator!

999 the MOVIE!
https://www.supporthermancain.com/taxmonster/src/22872

Latest Poll Averages- Iowa Republican Caucus (IA - Cain 22%, Romney 17%, Gingrich 16%)
http://townhall.com/polltracker/candidatepollsummary/iowa-republican-caucus


5 posted on 11/28/2011 8:17:17 AM PST by justsaynomore (http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: Longbow1969

He would be completely unknown, as he would be at the mercy of his advisors, given he acts like he doesn’t care to study the issues. INCREDIBLE arrogance, IMO, for someone to run for Prez and not even try to learn the issues.


6 posted on 11/28/2011 8:18:45 AM PST by PghBaldy (War Powers Res: http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/warpower.asp)
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To: justsaynomore

I certainly pray that he can. Teh last thing we need is insiders slippery Newt. Those insiders, including pundits, love Newt becaue he is one of them, they hate the idea of an outsider breaking thru the ranks and actually changing the way business is done in DC.


7 posted on 11/28/2011 8:21:34 AM PST by midwyf (Wyoming Native. Environmentalism is a religion too.)
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To: PghBaldy
INCREDIBLE arrogance, IMO, for someone to run for Prez and not even try to learn the issues.

Cain thought he could get by with his motivational speaking skills alone. He gambled that he really didn't need to understand policy. And hey, for some folks that is good enough. Never mind that Cain clearly has no grasp of most of the issues he'd have to deal with as President. For many people, ignorance now makes one an authentic conservative.

8 posted on 11/28/2011 8:23:17 AM PST by Longbow1969
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To: justsaynomore

I am still supporting Mr. Herman Cain. I will not allow a SRM/dnc/GOP Establishment initiated smear campaign sway my thinking.


9 posted on 11/28/2011 8:23:52 AM PST by Howie66 (I can see November (2012) from my house.)
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To: justsaynomore

No, he Cain’t....


10 posted on 11/28/2011 8:24:00 AM PST by clintonh8r (Living well is no longer the best revenge. Revenge is now the best revenge.)
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To: G Larry

Cain is a phony who is bluffing us. Perhaps a Cain supporter can explain to a dufus, like I, the difference between profiling and “targeted identification”. http://isearch.avg.com/search?cid={ae157968-1a6d-45fc-a3f5-c18da78d43d4}&mid=2b7deab70c8130c446a46b72b3fceebe-9c44491d38cff258efd08874e83314cc390e2ef0&ds=AVG&lang=en&v=8.0.0.40&pr=fr&d=2011-10-01%2021%3A36%3A08&sap=dsp&q=Cain%2C+profiling%2C+targeted+identification


11 posted on 11/28/2011 8:28:22 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: justsaynomore

Can you tell me the difference between profiling and “targeted identification”?


12 posted on 11/28/2011 8:29:12 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Howie66

Yeah I think there are some surprises waiting for when the actual voting starts.

The media sells their manure to the simpletons but real tea party types aren’t easily fooled.


13 posted on 11/28/2011 8:29:12 AM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: Longbow1969

“Here’s his bio:

* Bachelor’s degree in Mathematics.
* Master’s degree in Computer Science.
* Mathematician for the Navy, where he worked on missile ballistics (making him a rocket scientist).
* Computer systems analyst for Coca-Cola.
* VP of Corporate Data Systems and Services for Pillsbury (this is the top of the ladder in the computer world, being in charge of information systems for a major corporation).

All achieved before reaching the age of 35. Since he reached the top of the information systems world, he changed careers!

* Business Manager. Took charge of Pillsbury’s 400 Burger King
restaurants in the Philadelphia area, which were the company’s poorest performers in the country. Spent the first nine months learning the business from the ground up, cooking hamburger and yes, cleaning toilets. After three years he had turned them into the company’s best performers.
* Godfather’s Pizza CEO. Was asked by Pillsbury to take charge of their Godfather’s Pizza chain (which was on the verge of bankruptcy). He made it profitable in 14 months.
* In 1988 he led a buyout of the Godfather’s Pizza chain from
Pillsbury. He was now the owner of a restaurant chain. Again he reached the top of the ladder of another industry.
* He was also chairman of the National Restaurant Association during this time. This is a group that interacts with government on behalf of the restaurant industry, and it gave him political experience from the non-politician side.
Having reached the top of a second industry, he changed careers again!

* Adviser to the Federal Reserve System. Herman Cain went to work for the Federal Reserve Banking System advising them on how monetary policy changes would affect American businesses.
* Chairman of the Kansas City Federal Reserve Bank. He worked his way up to the chairmanship of a regional Federal Reserve bank. This is only one step below the chairmanship of the entire Federal Reserve System (the top banking position in the country). This position allowed him to see how monetary policy is made from the inside, and understand the political forces that impact the monetary system.
After reaching the top of the banking industry, he changed careers for a fourth time!

* Writer and public speaker. He then started to write and speak on leadership. His books include Speak as a Leader, CEO of Self, Leadership is Common Sense, and They Think You’re Stupid.
* Radio Host. Around 2007—after a remarkable 40 year career—he
started hosting a radio show on WSB in Atlanta (the largest talk radio station in the country).
He did all this starting from rock bottom (his father was a chauffeur and his mother was a maid). When you add up his accomplishments in his life—including reaching the top of three unrelated industries: information systems, business management, and banking”

http://www.israpundit.com/archives/40345


14 posted on 11/28/2011 8:29:39 AM PST by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: justsaynomore

Hahahahaha.....He continues to make confusing statements on policy (such as his new stances that immigration should be left to states) and idiotic videos like this one (http://youtu.be/jneGy5tz3Io).

What come back.


15 posted on 11/28/2011 8:31:47 AM PST by indianrightwinger
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To: justsaynomore

I love Herman but its starting to look a lot like Newt. Momentum is the key factor this close to the first three primaries. As long as its not Mitt.


16 posted on 11/28/2011 8:32:34 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Longbow1969; PghBaldy

Baloney. Cain has said he is learning foreign policy. All he has said is he doesn’t need to know EVERYTHING about foreign policy.

He is well versed on many issues, anyone who takes the time to look past the smears - they will see that.

http://www.cainblog.com/
2005-2010 Commentary - http://economicfreedomcoalition.com/press-opinion.asp
2011 Commentary - http://www.thinkersvoice.com/content/cainscommentary


17 posted on 11/28/2011 8:33:07 AM PST by justsaynomore (http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: Howie66
How about Cain's own words? He tries to convince us there is a difference between profiling and "targeted identification".

He also waffles on abortion, TARP and gun rights and these are his own words. http://theiowarepublican.com/2011/do-we-really-know-who-herman-cain-is/

18 posted on 11/28/2011 8:33:33 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: justsaynomore

Nope...


19 posted on 11/28/2011 8:33:59 AM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~.. Newt/Palin-Bolton-2012."got a lot swirling around in my head.")
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To: justsaynomore

To sit there and say Cain doesn’t understand the issues, as some posters say, is simply ridiculous. He gives great answers most of the time. He has had some bad moments, too.

As an outsider, this is the criticism he would need to overcome to be a viable candidate. As a political newcomer, he simply has to show a level of competence on both domestic and foreign issues that would allow people to be comfortable with his entering the White House. No one has even a sliver of the competence on the issues as Newt. The next tier are probably Santorum, Bachmann and Paul, as they have had their hands in the day to day Federal government decision-making. None of the governors have a high level of experience with many of the policy areas of the federal government, although they do have significant executive political experience that lends important skills to get things done in DC, and do deal with some of the policies on the state level and in dealing with Federal mandates and programs.


20 posted on 11/28/2011 8:34:26 AM PST by ilgipper (Everything you get from the government was taken from someone else)
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To: Longbow1969
"Cain thought he could get by with his motivational speaking skills alone. He gambled that he really didn't need to understand policy"

It worked for Obama.....

21 posted on 11/28/2011 8:35:30 AM PST by circlecity
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To: G Larry
He needs a thought that doesn’t include any 9’s.......

999 is inter-related. One step at a time is the best approach. Cain has turned around failing businesses; the national economy needs the same approach. The economy needs to be fixed, then everything will follow.

CAIN/2012

22 posted on 11/28/2011 8:36:10 AM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord!)
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To: keats5

Excellent bio. And, that is why it is so sad to see himself look like a fool on public policy issues. Time and again. He should go back to private sector or try to become a politician on a smaller stage.


23 posted on 11/28/2011 8:36:18 AM PST by indianrightwinger
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To: PghBaldy
INCREDIBLE arrogance, IMO, for someone to run for Prez and not even try to learn the issues.

I'll take Cain's grasp of the issues anytime.

Single payer mandate: Cain = NO, Romney = YES, Gingrich = YES>

Amnesty for illegal aliens: Cain = NO, Romney = YES, Gingrich = YES

Spending taxpayer money on global warming: Cain = NO, Romney = ?, Gingrich = YES

Cain not only understands the issues, unlike the other two top tier candidates, he holds the correct, conservative position on them.

24 posted on 11/28/2011 8:36:35 AM PST by Prokopton
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To: Howie66

I also continue to support Cain. Noot and the rest are Washington insiders and will give America a wink and a nod as they continue the same old thing in Washington


25 posted on 11/28/2011 8:38:01 AM PST by Rooivalk
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To: justsaynomore

So far Cain is still a better option than Romney or Gingrich, IMHO.


26 posted on 11/28/2011 8:38:22 AM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Longbow1969

ou apparently are only listening to sound bites rather than full interviews and speeches. I am still for Cain.


27 posted on 11/28/2011 8:38:27 AM PST by Nifster
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To: indianrightwinger

He never said all of the immigration should be left to the states. Empowering the states is part of his FOUR POINT plan, which he has been promoting since day one:

Cain’s plan:

Secure the border, enforce the laws on the books, promote the path to citizenship (starting with coming here legally) AND empower the states what the Federal government can’t do.


28 posted on 11/28/2011 8:38:51 AM PST by justsaynomore (http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: keats5

Sure, sure...

Let me ask you this - if Mr. Cain is so smart and capable, how come he doesn’t have a government job?

Lord knows the government always keeps an eye out for smart people!


29 posted on 11/28/2011 8:39:00 AM PST by headsonpikes (Mass murder and cannibalism are the twin sacraments of socialism - "Who-whom?"-Lenin)
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To: justsaynomore

My support for Herman cain never dwindled.

The basis for my support is his honest and decency, not because he’s a policy wonk or an intellectual.

Nothing has changed, and I won’t be voting for anyone else.


30 posted on 11/28/2011 8:39:00 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: indianrightwinger

Cain has always said that handling illegal immigration should be handled by the states. Contrast that with Newt’s blanket amnesty plan.


31 posted on 11/28/2011 8:40:47 AM PST by Rooivalk
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Newt is being pushed by the lame stream media and the GOP checked pants crowd. When Chuckie Schumer and B J Clinton like Newtie for prez then I say NOOOOOOOOOOOO


32 posted on 11/28/2011 8:41:06 AM PST by Nifster
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To: justsaynomore

Cain has my vote in March along with my families vote. Allowing a few states to go first is a severe injustice.


33 posted on 11/28/2011 8:41:26 AM PST by Sybeck1 (Mitt Romney, a piss poor choice)
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To: stars & stripes forever

It doesn’t matter whether it is the majic exlixor to cure all ills, it does NOT communicate a message that resonates with the voters.

It is not a substitute for thinking on his feet and providing substantive answers to questions.

It is NOT a foreign policy response!


34 posted on 11/28/2011 8:42:43 AM PST by G Larry ("I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his Character.")
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To: keats5

Having watched the two man debate/conversation - it was clear that Newt and Herman would be a perfect team in the WH.

Herman and Newt bring so many strengths to a broken Nation. Brains, mutual respect, optimism, redemption, faith, practicality, vision, experience, success,failures, lessons learned and love of the Constitution.


35 posted on 11/28/2011 8:43:40 AM PST by sodpoodle ( Gingrich-Cain 2012)
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To: indianrightwinger

EDITORIAL: Cain’s foreign policy

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/nov/24/cains-foreign-policy/

FOREIGN POLICY

“My foreign policy is an extension of the Reagan philosophy. My philosophy is peace through strength and clarity. We must clarify who our friends are; clarify who are enemies are; and stop giving money to our enemies. We need to tell the rest of the world who our friends are and that we stand with our friends... If you mess with Israel, you mess with the United States of America.” - Herman Cain
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGAtrSVgyb0
______________

From Herman Cain’s website:

The primary duty of the President of the United States is to protect our people. In fact, it is the principal duty of a limited federal government. They must ensure that our military and all of our security agencies are strong and capable.

Unfortunately, national security has become far too politicized with our elected officials using the issue as a means to polarize our country as the “war hawks” and the “peace doves.” In response, the safety and morale of our brave men and women in uniform are often at risk for political gain. The judgment of our military experts on the ground is often underutilized in exchange for political purposes. National security isn’t about politics. It’s about defending America.

While diplomacy is a critical tool in solving the complex security issues we face, it must never compromise military might. Because we are such a free and prosperous people, we are the envy of the world. Many regimes seek to destroy us because they are threatened by our ideals, and they resent our prosperity. We must acknowledge the real and present danger that terrorist nations and organizations pose to our country’s future.

Further, we must stand by our friends and we must not be fooled by our enemies. We should never be deceived by terrorists. They only have one objective, namely, to kill all of us. We must always remain vigilant in dealing with adversaries.

We must support our military with the best training, equipment, technology and infrastructure necessary to keep them in a position to win. We must also provide our men and women in uniform, our veterans and their families with the benefits they deserve for their tremendous sacrifice. These heroes have served us. We must never forget to serve them.

Cain discusses foreign policy in interviews:

with Dick Morris - http://www.dickmorris.com/blog/herman-cain-interview-on-new-ideas-to-tame-iran-dick-morris-tv-lunch-alert/

with Bill O’Reilly:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJjAJeyYhAg

Cain’s Position on Israel: http://dailycaller.com/2011/08/28/the-u-s-must-stand-with-israel/

Summary of Foreign Policy Stance:
http://www.hermancain.com/the-issues

Values Voters Speech:
http://www.therightscoop.com/herman-cain-brings-the-house-down-at-values-voter-summit/

Seeing Green in Red China
December 3, 2005
By Herman Cain
http://www.economicfreedomcoalition.com/news/press-opinion-120305.asp

Back to Terrorism Reality: Islamic Fascists are the Enemy
July 9, 2007
By Herman Cain
http://www.economicfreedomcoalition.com/news/press-opinion-070907.asp

Anatomy of World War III
July 26, 2006
By Herman Cain
http://www.economicfreedomcoalition.com/news/press-opinion-072606.asp

Cain’s Foreign Policy Team
http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2011/10/26/raising_cain_inside_herman_cain_s_new_foreign_policy_team#.TqhMZVVMvei.facebook


36 posted on 11/28/2011 8:44:31 AM PST by justsaynomore (http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: justsaynomore

I’m voting for Cain for one central reason - He brought companies back from the brink and he’ll try to do the same with the government.

He also does not care about the meaningless machinations of political wonkish speak, he thinks big picture.

I think the problem with him is that his staff tries to limit his opining in order to keep him away from gotcha moments. I don’t want him to triangulate and circumlocute like Obama. I want concise, to the point answers that Obama does not know how to provide.


37 posted on 11/28/2011 8:47:59 AM PST by struggle
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To: DTogo
So far Cain is still a better option than Romney or Gingrich, IMHO.

I agree.

38 posted on 11/28/2011 8:54:28 AM PST by frogjerk (America: Innocent until accused or considered being accused by an anonymous party)
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To: G Larry

Yeah, he be a real dummy, don’t he?

/s


39 posted on 11/28/2011 8:54:43 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: chris37

Cain is a bright, successful businessman.

That doesn’t confer Presidential breadth on the man.

He simply doesn’t have answers for critical questions.
“I’ll consult the experts” doesn’t cut it!

The GOP won’t nominate “hope & change”!


40 posted on 11/28/2011 9:05:19 AM PST by G Larry ("I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his Character.")
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To: G Larry
It is NOT a foreign policy response!

I do not have a problem understanding Herman Cain when he talks about foreign policy. His policy is much like Ronald Reagan's. Carry a big stick.

It does not take a rocket scientist to understand Herman Cain. That may be your problem. He does not speak "politician."

41 posted on 11/28/2011 9:05:58 AM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord!)
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To: struggle
The reason to support Governor Romney (aside, of course, from his good hair) is that he is the closest thing to President Obama and will, if elected, help to preserve the status quo. Change? Bah. Humbug.
42 posted on 11/28/2011 9:06:17 AM PST by DanMiller (Dan Miller)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Apparently it means he’s not going to be searching old white American nuns in airports, when the real threat is people coming from middle eastern countries.

You can call that racial profiling. But it doesn’t make sense to inconvenience us all when you know the needle in the haystack that you are searching for is really in that lump of hay off to the left.


43 posted on 11/28/2011 9:06:45 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: indianrightwinger
"Hahahahaha.....He continues to make confusing statements on policy (such as his new stances that immigration should be left to states) and idiotic videos like this one (http://youtu.be/jneGy5tz3Io).

What come back."

Some states are already making laws against illegals & the illegals are fleeing those states in droves.

There is nothing confusing about what Cain actually said. He said that there are laws already on the books to gain legal citizenship & those laws should be followed.

I am a Cain supporter. He's a decent & logical man & a Conservative. I like that about him!!

44 posted on 11/28/2011 9:10:09 AM PST by LADY J ( Change your thoughts and you change your world.. - Norman Vincent Peale))
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To: Sybeck1

You are totally right. We need a national primary rather than a system that is controlled by a few early states deciding which candidate is the front runner.


45 posted on 11/28/2011 9:10:19 AM PST by killermosquito (Buffalo, Detroit (and eventually France) is what you get when liberalism runs its course.)
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To: DTogo

Herman Cain is also leaps and bounds ahead of Ubama.


46 posted on 11/28/2011 9:11:52 AM PST by Howie66 (I can see November (2012) from my house.)
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To: sodpoodle

I remain on the Cain train too. Let Gingrich be the policy wonk and Herman be the business manager.

In the manufacturing world, I think its just fine if a manager wants to dabble in technical minutia but he/she needs to leave the heavy lifting to the pros - the engineers etc. Same thing in govt. - give me someone with a good moral compass and conservative bent as a leader.

There are plenty of govt policy grunts available to tune a strategy. And frankly, I only care about foreign policy to the extent it affects the health of the USA. I don’t need alot of philosophical arguements to know the world would be better off if Achmedinijaad(sic) ceased to exist. And I wouldn’t care about the nuanced effect that might have on how Ubeckbeckabeckastan perceives my country.


47 posted on 11/28/2011 9:12:17 AM PST by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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To: justsaynomore

Unless all Cain’s “negatives” go away (and I don’t think they will), he’s jinxed pretty much even as someone’s VEEP choice. HOW LONG will the egos of the “also-rans” —and by now I think we know who they all are-—keep getting in the way of the process of getting behind ONE or TWO candidates?
I’m convinced that the internecine sniping is just what the MSM wants, since it all tends to lead back to Romney, their candidate, who interestingly, no longer seems to partake of any of it.


48 posted on 11/28/2011 9:14:11 AM PST by supremedoctrine
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To: justsaynomore

Unless all Cain’s “negatives” go away (and I don’t think they will), he’s jinxed pretty much even as someone’s VEEP choice. HOW LONG will the egos of the “also-rans” —and by now I think we know who they all are-—keep getting in the way of the process of getting behind ONE or TWO candidates?
I’m convinced that the internecine sniping is just what the MSM wants, since it all tends to lead back to Romney, their candidate, who interestingly, no longer seems to partake of any of it.


49 posted on 11/28/2011 9:14:27 AM PST by supremedoctrine
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To: Nifster

“When Chuckie Schumer and B J Clinton like Newtie for prez then I say NOOOOOOOOOOOO”

Thats the plan. Don’t fall for it.


50 posted on 11/28/2011 9:15:24 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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