Try defending this piece of garbage from the man I am supposed to respect.
Posted on 11/28/2011 8:47:25 AM PST by TBBT
Newt Gingrich’s surge to the top of the GOP presidential race has given him a nine-percent lead over long-time frontrunner Mitt Romney.
In the first national scientific public opinion poll since Gingrich garnered a key New Hampshire newspaper endorsement, likely 2012 Republican primary and caucus voters favored Gingrich over Romney by a 32%-23% margin, with Herman Cain at 14%, Ron Paul at 6%, Rick Perry 5%, Michele Bachmann 4%, Jon Huntsman 3%, someone else at 4%, and no opinion at 11%
(Excerpt) Read more at pollposition.com ...
This just shows that 55% of the base voters have lost their minds.
Ooooh... it’s a “scientific” phone poll of 499 (not 500, not 498, but 499) Republican voters who said they’d vote in their state’s primary.
I refuse to believe that American voters accept Gingrich’s advocating of amnesty for illegal aliens as a course for this country. It just doesn’t make sense
Pffft. Blog polling. Poll,scmoll.
Pffft. Blog polling. Poll,schmoll.
National polls are meaningless.
You mean like 10 people per state?
Well I guess Obama will win re-election because all the Gingrich hating conservatives will sit out the election with heads up their asses just like 2008 with McCain. They are like a bunch of spoiled brats who throw tantrums when they don’t get what they want. I think I dislike them more than liberals. At least liberals stick together. But they are also mentally deranged.
That may be because it’s not amnesty.
You don’t make sense.
So who is your choice?
be ready for mass-amnesty. I wonder if US citizens are still allowed to vote after Newt is done.
I will never ever vote for that scumbag lying amnesty activist global warming nut
Yes it is.
Perhaps is shows that folks see closing the border and deporting recent illegal immigrants as a great WORKABLE step toward stopping illegal immigration?
Detractors know people are too lazy to read an 11 step plan, so they just throw the “amnesty” lable on it, in hopes of moving support to some loser.
Nice try but if Gingrich goes down in flames as he will if he’s the nominee then it will be for the same reason that McCain did: loss of independents. Unprincipled RINOs and their supporters should stop trying to blame the base for their own shortcomings.
Conservatives don't "hate" Gingrich, he's not important enough to have that strong of a feeling about. We do not want him to be the Republican presidential candidate because he is a progressive, pro-amnesty, pro-single mandate, pro-global warming BS, professional lobbyist who will advance the big idea, big government, liberal cause. On top of that, he is probably the weakest candidate when it comes to defeating Obama. That's all, no hate.
I get plenty skeptical when people start throwing the S-word around. Especially these days.
I can live with Gingrich. I cannot abide Romney.
Gingrich 32% with Herman Cain at 14%.
Does that mean that Herm is within striking distance? Hmmmm maybe not.
Go Newt.......
The DNC and Newt's RINO adversaries are already cooking up their ad campaign that will reveal a lot more about Newt than we know now. His Amnesty Platform is just the tip of the ice berg.
I am active in our Tea Party here in Florida and I don't know where all Newt's support is coming from because it's nonexistent. Those that support Newt all showed up at the Naples Town Hall Meeting and at best his support was about 250 people, the rest were there because they were up in arms about his giving Amnesty to illegals.
Newt whips up more plans and posts them on his site as often as the wind blows in the other direction.
Soon his plan will have 57 steps - one for each State.
I’ve been had too many times by Professional Politicians like Newt. I guess there is no way to get rid of the DC Beltway Politicians that have all of us taking directions rather than our telling them how we, the people, want them to serve us.
Well NO chance I vote for either of these sniveling RINOs ... but watching Romney take it in the teeth on this one is pretty funny.
I disagree with you. IMO, the independents and a lot of conservative vote went with Obama in the last election because we were bamboozled with the charismatic first black president who spoke of transparency, working both sides of the aisle, and the hope and change mantra. Fool me once, shame on you......you know the rest.
God forbid that those of us in a “free republic” are allowed to make up our own mind and vote for the candidate we like. No, we are accused of losing our mind or belittled as “RINOs”. I respect your choice of candidate, try to respect ours.
“I refuse to believe that American voters accept Gingrich’s advocating of amnesty for illegal aliens as a course for this country. It just doesn’t make sense”
Thats because most people realize that Newt is not advocating amnesty. What he is advocating is his 21st Century Contract For America which is conservative and a good plan.
What's Newt's primary slogan going to be: "vote for me, I'm not that other guy you don't like". This is a chance for real conservative to win so let's get one.
Incidentally I don't agree with you, after a daily barrage of Newt's past, which is not the least bit pretty independents and the majority of women will be so turned off to Newt they will hold their nose for the evil they already have, and that's Obama.
Either nomineee will lose to Obama. So, I would rather see Gingrich lose to Obama than Romney lose to Obama. At least, it will be a “center right” candidate who is deeply flawed personally that would have given the election to Obama. Not a “center left” republican who is an in-the-middle mush.
Even if Perry is likely to lose to Obama, I would rather see him fight the conservative cause on most issues and go down with a good fight on the issues. Not personality and flip-flopping confusion. At least, that will set it up better for GOP in 2016.
Abortion used to be the single issue in Republican politics. Now, it appears like immigration has taken its place. Get over it. No candidate will take a hard line on illegal immigrants. They can’t, politically speaking.
Newt unless a better option appears, which I doubt at this point. Wanted Mitch Daniels.
And it’s not blanket amnesty. Just because Romney, Bachman etal shout it doesn’t make it true. Once the borders are secure, which we all agree on, there has to be a plan for the 11M illegals in the country. I may not love all the aspects of his plan, but at least he’s presenting one with carrots and sticks. The others just yell “amnesty” without a realistic plan of their own. Again, only one adult in the room.
But he needs to stop with the sophomoric humor applause lines (telepromptor etc) and start rising to the bar of presidential timber if he’s going to succeed.
Lastly, and I’m not claiming equivalency, but Newt’s career does, in many ways, mirror Churchill’s with the years in the wilderness and being the right person at a critical time. Many have written on this and it makes sense. 2008 or 2016, no. 2012, maybe a huge YES. I’m sure he’d welcome back the bust that Nobama insultingly sent back.
So long as it is not Romney.
There aint none!
Gee, maybe because
A) Immigration is not the number one issue this campaign. The top issue is the country’s economy (jobs).
B) The number 2 issue the global economy (trade), and
C) The number 3 issue is foreign policy (i.e, what to do about Iran, Afghanistan, Libya, Egypt, Syria, etc, etc, etc).
If you look thru the prism of these 3 issues, Newt is clearly the strongest candidate.
The illegal immigration policy is an issue because it came up in a debate, not because it is the thing driving this election. Newt’s plan is one that sounds REASONABLE to everyone except for the idealogs (like you), who want a purist. Since a) no candidate actually is a purist (yes, even MB has waffled on shipping them all out) because b) a purist would be unelectable ... the immigration debate is largely unimportant to deciding which candidate to support.
If you dislike Newt enough to vote for Obama, that’s your prerogative. Your ranting isn’t going to convince me of anything you say though.
Try defending this piece of garbage from the man I am supposed to respect.
What about Cain, Bachmann, or Santorum? I see the latest talking points coming from Newt supporters that independents, which is a crucial voting block will go for anyone but Obama so why not get behind one of these candidates instead of a liberal, globalist flip-flopper?
Nice retort, if I don’t get behind your globalist, flip flopping RINO then I’ll obviously be pulling the lever for Obama. I’m sick of these type candidates the “moderates” keep shoving down our throats. And Newt isn’t even that, look at his record, sitting on the couch with Pelosi? Some of us refuse to be bamboozled.
Yeah. The Rats are sticking together around a damaged POS that is increasingly becoming unelectable. They were destroyed in '10 and '12 doesn't look much better because of Obummer. So you are arguing that we rally around Progressive Newt for continuity sake on the GOP side. Swell.
Maybe because he wasn't advocating amnesty...only the media and his political foes were stating that he did.
But, then, don't let the facts confuse you.
“A) Immigration is not the number one issue this campaign. The top issue is the country’s economy (jobs).
B) The number 2 issue the global economy (trade), and
C) The number 3 issue is foreign policy (i.e, what to do about Iran, Afghanistan, Libya, Egypt, Syria, etc, etc, etc).”
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Do you have a source for his position on B and C?
They think that the Union-Leader's endorsement of Newt caused this big change in nationwide voter opinion? It makes no sense to tie a national change to a New Hampshire newspaper endorsement. And 499 people polled nationwide?
If you look at RCP you will see most of the polls sample in the 400-500 range. The less than half are in the 500-1000 range, with most of those in the lower end.
Dismissing his current written plan and supplanting that with mind reading isn’t a sound basis for decision making.
Who ARE you supporting?
I sent Cain $100 when he was falsely accused of sexual harrassment. I had been leaning his way. I filmed the Cain-Gingrich Debate and posted it on my you tube channel. At the time I thought it was an historical event.
But Cain lost me because of other things. All those years he headed companies it's apparent he never read the newspaper. I guess I just wanted an outsider too much!
I never considered Bachmann a serious candidate. She wasted over $200,000 purchasing the Iowa straw poll she won. If that's what she does with other peoples' money.....no thanks.
Santorum couldn't win an election for dog catcher in Scranton!
The idiot, Bob Casey, cleaned his clock last time.
So....without my first choice, Sarah Palin, in the mix, I've made my choice based on ALL the issues, not just one.
Gingrich was de facto president when Clinton was diddling broads in the White House. He's the only adult left standing who has an appreciation of American history and the skill set with which to put the country back on track.
Mitt Romney always acts like he's had eight cups of coffee to many! He's trying too hard to "make the sale".
I am supporting Herman Cain.
Someone tell me who HAS an immigration plan, and how it is better/more believable than Newt Gingrich’s plan. All the focus is on Newt, but is Romney’s plan better? Bachmann said the EXACT SAME THING as Newt when asked what to do with the 11 million people here. I don’t think Cain’s 9-9-9 addresses illegal aliens, and to the best of my knowledge... that is Cain’s only plan on anything.
I like Tom’s Tancredo’s plan... throw ‘em all out. But.... who running really has a better plan than Newt?
And this was BEFORE the Cainesty announcement!
Newt will certainly get some of those defectors!
-—”....Cain was the choice of 36 percent of Democrats — more than double any other Republican nominee....”-—
It is clear now why Cain is not in fifth place. The Democrats DESPERATELY want us to nominate him.
Let's hope if the GOP is willing to sacrifice the presidency then we don't lose the Senate and the House. But Obama will get to get pick the next Supreme Court Justices.
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