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LET'S GET REAL: A Newt Gingrich Nomination Would Be A Disaster For The Republican Party
Business Insider ^ | 112811 | Michael Brendan Dougherty

Posted on 11/28/2011 12:32:23 PM PST by Fred

Newt Gingrich is now suddenly the candidate to beat Mitt Romney. And conservatives are said to be "salivating" at the chance of watching him debate President Obama.

But the truth is that a Newt Gingrich nomination would be a disaster for the Republican party: He cannot win.

And it would be a major setback to conservative causes, because Newt Gingrich tarnishes the right's ideals with his obvious corruption.

Let's take those two one at a time.

He cannot win:

The New Hampshire Union Leader credits Newt Gingrich with engineering the 1994 Republican Revolution when Republicans took their first majority in Congress in 50 years and Newt ascended to the role of Speaker.

But Gingrich deserves more credit for ship-wrecking that Revolution. Within just two years, Newt Gingrich shut-down the government and his approval rating dropped to just 25 percent. It never recovered.

By 1997, Gingrich was facing dozens of ethics charges. Although many of them were dismissed, he was fined an unprecedented $300,000 by the House Ethics Committee (still run by Republicans at the time), and admitted to giving "inaccurate, incomplete and unreliable statements were given to the committee." Newt did this precisely during a time he was trying to impeach the president for perjury.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012gopprimary; amnesty; gingrich; mandate; newt2012; newtcare; obamacare; rino; romneycare
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1 posted on 11/28/2011 12:32:32 PM PST by Fred
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To: Fred

Translated from RINO this means that Newt scares the hell out of the Democrats.


2 posted on 11/28/2011 12:33:49 PM PST by MeganC (Are you better off than you were four years ago?)
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To: Fred

His “obvious corruption?” Do they really want to talk about “obvious corruption?”


3 posted on 11/28/2011 12:34:51 PM PST by ponygirl
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To: Fred

Romney is the Dems’ pick for the Rep candidate. Mainly because they know Obama will cream him in the election with the help from the News Media.


4 posted on 11/28/2011 12:35:40 PM PST by wrench
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To: Fred

I am a realist. I think four more years of Obama would be mother of all disasters!

I actually like what I’m hearing from Speaker Gingrich.


5 posted on 11/28/2011 12:36:26 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Fred
By 1997, Gingrich was facing dozens of ethics charges. Although many of them were dismissed, he was fined an unprecedented $300,000 by the House Ethics Committee (still run by Republicans at the time), and admitted to giving "inaccurate, incomplete and unreliable statements were given to the committee." Newt did this precisely during a time he was trying to impeach the president for perjury.

If Clinton was eligible for a third term his impeachment would mean nothing.

6 posted on 11/28/2011 12:36:45 PM PST by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: Fred

And I suppose Mittens Romney would be just peachy as a nomination...

Newts not perfect, but he’s 100 times better than Romney. My only fear about Newt is what I like to call the likability factor. Everyone who wins the Presidency has to have it. I’m not sure that Newt does. Look, I’m thinking as the “Man on the Street” thinks. To many, he’s percieved as not very likable....


7 posted on 11/28/2011 12:37:45 PM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Fred

And who can the Republicans put up that won’t that won’t be a “disaster” ? If it’s going to be a disaster why are the Dems & RINOS so concerned?


8 posted on 11/28/2011 12:37:54 PM PST by jimbobfoster
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To: Fred

Just wait till the Dems. bring out that pic of Romney with his big money buddies and the bills hanging out their pants/mouths/etc.


9 posted on 11/28/2011 12:38:10 PM PST by ConjunctionJunction
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To: Fred

Still into Cain here. I’d really like to see a debate between him and Obama. Sadly, this can’t happen since Obama will not be his party’s nominee.


10 posted on 11/28/2011 12:38:34 PM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Fred

Maybe a disaster is what the Republican Party needs.


11 posted on 11/28/2011 12:39:14 PM PST by Romulus (The Traditional Latin Mass is the real Youth Mass)
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To: Fred

Business Insider definitely leans Left and has made fum of Palin, even running at least one article about her supposed fake pregnancy, for instance. Don’t take their political articles seriously. They are just blather. That site is, however, one of the best at finding interesting and unusual collections of photos occasionally.


12 posted on 11/28/2011 12:40:41 PM PST by Coyote Choir
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To: Fred

they are all the same old same old candidates.

How about Mr West congressman from Fl?


13 posted on 11/28/2011 12:41:13 PM PST by television is just wrong
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To: Fred

It’s IMPORTANT to remember that Gingrich was FORCED OUT by corrupt Repubs wanting to create a campaign money system like the Democrats Shadow Party Organizations.

His return, in spite of the baggage, has a LOT of people in DC fearing revenge.


14 posted on 11/28/2011 12:42:06 PM PST by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: MeganC; fieldmarshaldj
>> Translated from RINO this means that Newt scares the hell out of the Democrats. <<

Katherine Harris supporters said the same thing during her U.S. Senate bid. Every study showed the general electorate had a negative view of her and she'd get killed in the statewide race. They interpted this to mean that "RINOs hate her for no reason" and "she scares the hell out of the Democrats"

On election day in November, she couldn't even muster 40% and handed an otherwise vulnerable Dem (Bill Nelson) a easy landslide re-election. Want to repeat that on the national level with Obama? Nominate Newt.

15 posted on 11/28/2011 12:43:36 PM PST by BillyBoy (Illegals for Perry/Gingrich 2012 : Don't be "heartless"/ Be "humane")
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
And I suppose Mittens Romney would be just peachy as a nomination...

My thoughts exactly... first Bachmann would be a disaster, then Perry, then Cain and now Newt. Truth is that Romney would be the biggest disaster. I could see any supporter of the mentioned vote for another name. I can't say that about Romney. If he gets the nod I believe many will not vote or go third party.

16 posted on 11/28/2011 12:44:07 PM PST by 11th Commandment (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: ConjunctionJunction

Bingo!


17 posted on 11/28/2011 12:44:31 PM PST by stratman1969 (Anyone but Obama or Romney in 2012)
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To: Fred
I've seen almost the exact same headline about every candidate in the race.

Somebody's gotta win the thing.

18 posted on 11/28/2011 12:44:32 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: ConjunctionJunction

Here it is:

Romney’s Smoking Gun Picture

http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/10/romneys_smoking_gun_picture.html


19 posted on 11/28/2011 12:44:43 PM PST by ConjunctionJunction
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To: Fred
Newt Gingrich is now suddenly the candidate to beat Mitt Romney. And conservatives are said to be "salivating" at the chance of watching him debate President Obama.
But the truth is that a Newt Gingrich nomination would be a disaster for the Republican party: He cannot win.

Bull Shit.

20 posted on 11/28/2011 12:45:46 PM PST by JakeS (This would be a good time to read John chapter three 1-21)
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To: Fred

they are running the same old duds cause obama is supposed to be there 4 more years. NO CHOICES!


21 posted on 11/28/2011 12:46:22 PM PST by television is just wrong
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To: cuban leaf

I’m still into Cain too.
Gingrich is a poor second.
Romney requires a vote for a third party.


22 posted on 11/28/2011 12:46:34 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: SumProVita

Agree. We have the chance to elect one of the greatest leaders in years. It will take time to undo all the damage by Obama but Newt will take this nation on the right path...not a single republican running is in Newt’s class.


23 posted on 11/28/2011 12:46:40 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: Romulus

My thoughts exactly. It comes down to packing the House and Senate with people that will adhere to the Constitution, strictly. If we had that in place, O would already be a skid mark in the annals of history. Its not so much O that “scares” me that much, its a willing House and Senate that are letting the Executive Branch “rule”...Change the “power” to the legislative branch with Constitutionalists and O is nothing but a neutered lame duck; same goes for Mittens, Perry, Newt; anyone..


24 posted on 11/28/2011 12:46:57 PM PST by Michael Barnes (Obamaa+ Downgrade)
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To: MeganC
Wrong, the rats have enough files and video on newt that it require ten big trucks to haul. He would be hung out to dry like an old stained pair of his long johns.
25 posted on 11/28/2011 12:47:55 PM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Newt, Willard, Perry and his fellow supporters.)
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To: BillyBoy

Whatever. Just rest assured that there is no scenario in which I cast a vote for Mitt Romney.


26 posted on 11/28/2011 12:48:09 PM PST by MeganC (Are you better off than you were four years ago?)
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To: Fred; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; Gilbo_3; NFHale; ...
RE :"The New Hampshire Union Leader credits Newt Gingrich with engineering the 1994 Republican Revolution when Republicans took their first majority in Congress in 50 years and Newt ascended to the role of Speaker. But Gingrich deserves more credit for ship-wrecking that Revolution. Within just two years, Newt Gingrich shut-down the government and his approval rating dropped to just 25 percent. It never recovered"

Newt doesnt sound quite that brilliant when the rubber meets the road and he is under stress, compared to being on a stage throwing out half-baked ideas that few question. He has been known to blow the whole game by not understanding the game and how to play it, and by talking.

27 posted on 11/28/2011 12:49:33 PM PST by sickoflibs (Cain :"My parents didn't raise me to beg the government for other peoples money")
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To: All

LET'S GET REAL: A Newt Gingrich Republican Nomination Would Be A Disaster For The Republican Party.



Fixed it.
28 posted on 11/28/2011 12:50:12 PM PST by j_k_l
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To: MeganC

Mitt would be bad for the party. Oh Yeah and Rpmney would be better? Right. WTF?


29 posted on 11/28/2011 12:50:25 PM PST by Venturer
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To: Fred

He blames Newt for the Republican Revolution of 1994 foundering. In reality, Bob Dole led a broadside assault against all Revolutionaries in his 1996, telling them to get the hell out of HIS party. A fiery speech by Buchanan had put Dole into the lead going into his convention speech, but Dole’s speech equated reform with extremism.


30 posted on 11/28/2011 12:50:33 PM PST by dangus
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To: JakeS
Gingrich Goes All Romney and Obama

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4NrECZ9a2U&sns=tw
31 posted on 11/28/2011 12:50:46 PM PST by Fred ("The terrorists' want to kill us, so we need to kill them first!" http://hermancain.com)
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To: BillyBoy

ABM
ABO


32 posted on 11/28/2011 12:50:46 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (To fix government, we need a rocket scientist. Oh, wait we have one!)
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To: MeganC

lol. Oh, then you speak RINO?


33 posted on 11/28/2011 12:51:03 PM PST by Obadiah (If Reagan were alive today he'd be spinning in his grave.)
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To: MeganC
Isn't it fun that as soon as a Republican candidate has the temerity to poke his nose out in front, even briefly, he is hit with stuff from the RINO delegation until he starts to collapse? It makes no difference what sort of stuff it is, so long as there is enough of it.

I wonder why that is. /sarc

34 posted on 11/28/2011 12:51:17 PM PST by DanMiller (Dan Miller)
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To: org.whodat

If Newt’s the nominee we’ll have four more years of Obama picking Supreme Court Justices.


35 posted on 11/28/2011 12:52:12 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Fred
Amnesty supporter Newt also supports healthcare mandate
36 posted on 11/28/2011 12:52:45 PM PST by South40 (NO TO RINOS! NO TO AMNESTY! NO TO NEWT!)
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To: sickoflibs

In my own opinion, I think that anyone that sees newt as brilliant has a short elevator cable themselves.


37 posted on 11/28/2011 12:52:59 PM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Newt, Willard, Perry and his fellow supporters.)
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To: Fred

The government shutdown is the example many reach for when thinking Newt would be a disaster. But remember, this was BEFORE Fox News and BEFORE sites like freerepublic where conservatives finally got a voice. Remember when your news came almost exclusively from people like Dan Rather or Peter Jennings and publications like Time and Newsweek? No wonder people turned on the government shutdown like they did.


38 posted on 11/28/2011 12:53:46 PM PST by libertarian neocon
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To: Fred; P-Marlowe; wmfights; Alamo-Girl; betty boop
Well, after a 3.5 year probe, after Newt paid the $300,000 fine, the IRS announced on February 3, 1999, that it found NO IMPROPRIETIES IN THE TAX FILINGS of Gingrich and the sponsoring Progress and Freedom Foundation. The IRS said the principles taught in the course were not of use only in political campaigns. "The ... course taught principles from American civilization that could be used by each American in everyday life whether the person is a welfare recipient, the head of a large corporation, or a politician."

http://www.rightgrrl.com/carolyn/newt.html

75 baseless charges were brought against Gingrich during the Clinton era as a diversionary tactic.

Gingrich was found not guilty by the IRS on an obscure tax charge.

I expect, Cainiacs, if I could have recorded you at the time in the late 1990's that you all would have been calling these charges against Gingrich a witchhunt, baseless, and vindictive.

I'll bet I could find article on Free Republic from the time saying the same thing.

39 posted on 11/28/2011 12:53:58 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: MeganC

You are so right on. Couldn’t agree more.


40 posted on 11/28/2011 12:55:43 PM PST by Sunshine Sister
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To: Fred
It was Newts tactics in congress that forced Clinton to stop spending and try to balance the budget.
It is far to early to say who can or can't be elected and the people should make that choice not a tarnished news agency. After all if they really thought Newt could not be elected they would just keep their mouths shut and let that happen now wouldn't they.
Personally I can think of nothing better than a debate between Newt and Obamma without a script,without a teleprompter and more than 60 seconds to give a complete answer, Obamma would be DOA!
41 posted on 11/28/2011 12:55:47 PM PST by CowboyConservative
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To: Fred

Wrongney < Newt < Cain


42 posted on 11/28/2011 12:56:53 PM PST by snowrip (Liberal? You are a socialist idiot with no rational argument.)
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To: BillyBoy
Very good analysis, which I tend to agree with. The question then becomes when can any Republican not be savaged and relentlessly caricatured by the corrupt MSM (in full collusion with Democrats)?

One by one, every Republican in the last 50 years has been pejoratively caricatured by the corrupt MSM together with Democrats.

Goldwater
Nixon
Ford
Reagan
Quayle
Bush (both)
Palin
Gingrich

and so on...

43 posted on 11/28/2011 12:57:02 PM PST by Obadiah (If Reagan were alive today he'd be spinning in his grave.)
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To: Fred

You mean to say you actually read Business Insider? That takes guts. Or something.


44 posted on 11/28/2011 12:57:27 PM PST by Melchior
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To: jimbobfoster

I think Perry would be our best bet. He’s more conservative than Newt and doesn’t have any real baggage they can use to sabotage him. He’s actually a great speaker and his only real flaw is his debate skills.

Of course, as we proved with his early missteps, the Republican party will be glad to disqualify him without any damaging history. We sure jumped on that one!


45 posted on 11/28/2011 12:57:32 PM PST by Kenny
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
the likability factor. Everyone who wins the Presidency has to have it

Didn't stop Nixon!

46 posted on 11/28/2011 12:58:59 PM PST by Lady Lucky
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To: dangus

Funny how few people remember this historical fact.


47 posted on 11/28/2011 12:59:15 PM PST by Obadiah (If Reagan were alive today he'd be spinning in his grave.)
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To: Fred
The New Hampshire Union Leader credits Newt Gingrich with engineering the 1994 Republican Revolution when Republicans took their first majority in Congress in 50 years and Newt ascended to the role of Speaker.

But Gingrich deserves more credit for ship-wrecking that Revolution. Within just two years, Newt Gingrich shut-down the government and his approval rating dropped to just 25 percent. It never recovered.

Hilarious, this guy has it exactly backwards. It was Newt, not the media that catapulted him to the leadership, the first R house in 40 years, and the only balanced budgets ever produced by the Fedgov. And it was the MEDIA, not Newt, that put his popularity in the gutter because they had to destroy him with relentless attacks and bogus ethics charges, JUST LIKE THEY DID TO SARAH. Anybody who wants to take their side now, and use trumped up charges against one of our own, is as bad as a lying conniving leftist...

48 posted on 11/28/2011 12:59:35 PM PST by ez ("Abashed the Devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton, "Paradise Lost")
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To: Romulus
Maybe a disaster is what the Republican Party needs.

That's what a lot of people who sat out 2008 said. Well, we got one. How's that working out for you? I'd vote for a pet rock over Obama, and I think the majority of the country feels the same way.

49 posted on 11/28/2011 12:59:56 PM PST by BuckyKat (Green = the new red)
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To: Fred
Newt's a self-important gasbag.

He'd be a disaster as a candidate and, God help us, an even bigger disaster as President.

50 posted on 11/28/2011 1:00:04 PM PST by Pietro
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