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Former Business Partner: Ginger White Never Mentioned Herman Cain
ABC News ^ | 112911 | LAURA REDDY

Posted on 11/29/2011 1:35:58 PM PST by Fred

The female bodybuilder who once ran a bicycle business with latest Herman Cain accuser Ginger White says the Atlanta woman never mentioned the Republican presidential candidate, who she says was her lover for 13 years.

"His name has never come up," said Kimberly Vay, who told ABC News that she and White were former business partners.

But Vay, who filed and won a libel lawsuit against White, refused to comment directly when asked whether she considers White's accusations about Cain credible. "When you see the details of my lawsuit," said Vay, "they will speak for themselves." She then referred ABC News to her attorney.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cain; falsewitness; gingerwhite; hermancain; hightechlynching; mudslinging; smears; threat
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To: frogjerk

...another good question I just saw on another thread...how did Herman carry on with this woman while battling stage 4 colon cancer?


151 posted on 11/29/2011 6:18:22 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: little jeremiah
////sarc

No, snark.

152 posted on 11/29/2011 6:22:19 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: Fred

If Herman Cain got the Repbulican nomination can you imagine what would happen to all of the claims of racism? Well I supposed Dems being Dems, a little thing like having a black candidate would not stop them. Tehy simply must destroy im, and I am not sure they are not having help from Republican political insiders. I will have to hold my nose if I have to vote for Newt.


153 posted on 11/29/2011 6:44:44 PM PST by midwyf (Wyoming Native. Environmentalism is a religion too.)
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To: little jeremiah

I choose right now to ignore the sexual allegations against Cain. Those are not my reasons for opposing him.

His policy positions have rubbed me the wrong way: on life, on foreign policy, on the constitution, on the role of the president, on a new revenue source, and on immigration/citizenship I believe he has been weak.


154 posted on 11/29/2011 6:51:19 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: colorado tanker

If there were plenty of MSM articles/news stories about 0bomba’s background, it should be child’s play for you to find a few links and post them to prove your point.


155 posted on 11/29/2011 7:36:09 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: xzins

Cain is not a favorite of mine. My favorite is, well I don’t have one. I just hope that Romneypuke is not forced upon us.


156 posted on 11/29/2011 7:36:42 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: who knows what evil?; conservatism_IS_compassion; frogjerk
Where were all these vapid twits when Cain ran for office in Georgia?

Only recently, when the stakes have become magnitudes higher, have there been "interested parties" dragging hundred dollar bills through the trailer parks and paying for the likes of Allred.   Thus, these flaps have nothing to do with facts or these women's--and I use that term as loosely as it properly applies to them--non-financially-related "honor."

HF

157 posted on 11/29/2011 7:37:56 PM PST by holden
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To: austinaero

Absolutely sickening, but he’s not quitting and he’s pushing back; moving forward with his campaign!


158 posted on 11/29/2011 7:44:25 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC:DONATE MONTHLY! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: FR_addict

I want to know the content of the libel suit too. Mass emails etc.


159 posted on 11/29/2011 7:51:09 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: DoughtyOne
I will say that I don’t see any of our candidates being as bad as John McCain though.

I look at it this way: Perry is as bad as McCain; Newt and Romney are worse.

160 posted on 11/29/2011 8:01:12 PM PST by Ingtar
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To: Forward the Light Brigade
If she was having a secret affair she wouldn’t talk about it.

I wonder how many FR women would agree with that statement. My wife thinks it's one of the most naive things she's ever heard said about a woman :)

161 posted on 11/29/2011 8:05:12 PM PST by kevao
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Fred.


162 posted on 11/29/2011 8:06:42 PM PST by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: colorado tanker
lawsuit by default

Possible, but highly improbable. You must receive notice and if proper notice isn't given the verdict can be reversed with a single hearing. If her good name wasn't worth fighting for on her own part, why should we believe her?

Doesn't the meme black men = sex maniacs make you think liberal? Liberals are always pushing this theme. Look at Hollywood, television, music and radio shows. You'll be hard pressed to find one with a positive black male.

163 posted on 11/29/2011 8:08:07 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Fred

Why no women coming out about Obama (even liars)? Didn’t he know/like any girls.


164 posted on 11/29/2011 8:13:00 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Either Obama can beat any GOP candidate or no GOP candidate.)
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To: Fred

These little Harpies are a dime a dozen at conventions and trade shows, hired by vendors to wear lots of perfume and makeup and very little clothes to draw men to the displays...


165 posted on 11/29/2011 8:13:33 PM PST by tubebender (I always wanted to be somebody, but now I realize I should have been more specific.)
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To: DoughtyOne

nice


166 posted on 11/29/2011 8:33:22 PM PST by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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To: onyx

I’m not that computer savvy, but can emails be faked?

We all know if even one smoking gun piece of evidence was produced by this parade of harpies, that’s all it would take to bring Cain down. That would be the lead story. Hasn’t happened yet, and looks less likely with each new accuser.


167 posted on 11/29/2011 8:34:51 PM PST by drierice
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To: kevao; Forward the Light Brigade

Very, very few women could keep such a secret. And this lady bodybuilder and White were business partners (is that all???) for 13 years.


168 posted on 11/29/2011 8:37:10 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade
If she was having a secret affair she wouldn’t talk about it.

The affair wasn't secret from people in HER world (if it existed), it was secret from people in HIS world, like Cain's wife. But White would be more than free to talk about it with HER girlfriends.

My sister had an affair with a married man (yes, she's morally challenged), and she talked about it with me and with HER friends. It was HIM who had to stay on the down low and keep his story straight with HIS wife, because he was the one who was married. My sister was single and didn't have to keep any secret because she didn't travel in the same circle as the wife.

IF there was an affair here, it would be CAIN who had to keep his mouth shut, not White.

And being the somewhat "public figure" that Cain was during this so-called affair, are we to believe (as she tells it) that Cain flew her to meet him when he was doing speaking engagements out of town, and he didn't think anyone would see him with another woman and report back to his wife of 43 years? Come on.

169 posted on 11/29/2011 9:00:24 PM PST by BagCamAddict (How about you post in support of YOUR candidate, instead of trashing all the others??)
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To: BagCamAddict

I also don’t get why any woman would want to go on National TV and tell the world she had an affair with a married man, period. Yes, a woman might tell about being sexually harassed, because in that case she’s an innocent victim. But it’s another matter entirely to step forward to voluntarily announce her own moral failings in such a public arena.

What woman would want her parents, aunts, uncles, co-workers, neighbors or children knowing about this? For the women out there, what might make you consider making a public statement like this?

The only thing I could think of would be blackmail or desperately needing money to survive. In either of those cases, truth would be irrelevant.


170 posted on 11/29/2011 9:09:07 PM PST by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: who knows what evil?

Did his stage 4 colon cancer indeed coincide with this alleged affair? I wonder if the timing could be nailed down.


171 posted on 11/29/2011 9:13:06 PM PST by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: Fred; a fool in paradise

Ginger has never been the same since she quit drumming with Cream!


172 posted on 11/29/2011 9:15:40 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: drierice

I guess everything can be faked. Emails can be faked, (but both both sender and recepient have copies) and text messages would be very difficult because both sender and receiver would have a copy and I think the carrier (AT&T) or whatever company would also have a copy if needed.


173 posted on 11/29/2011 9:20:23 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC:DONATE MONTHLY! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: Fred

Wow


174 posted on 11/29/2011 9:22:38 PM PST by The Mayor ("If you can't make them see the light, let them feel the heat" — Ronald Reagan)
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To: Future Useless Eater

This all reminds me of when old Larry Flint tried to bribe anyone w/a million dollars if they could find out if there was anything about GWB having an affair. There was some woman who came forward about an ex-roommate of hers getting help w/having an abortion. This woman claimed her roommate was a girlfriend of his, (before he met Laura)and that she overheard the woman talking on the phone w/someone. (supposedly Bush).

Anyway, the woman was wrong! Her friend was talking on the phone about being pregnant, (I guess)but it wasn’t Bush. The roommate claimed he was the dad and he was going to help her decide what to do about the baby! Then, they tracked the friend/roommate down somehow, and asked her to verify it one way or the other. Either or that, she herself called to clear it up. She said Bush couldn’t have helped her, the baby wasn’t even his!

She was going out with someone else, and she said that there wasn’t a baby between them at all, because she and George never had ‘relations’! She and George were just good friends. I remember that it sure blew up in ol’ Larry Flint’s face!


175 posted on 11/29/2011 10:32:11 PM PST by dsutah
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To: kevao; Forward the Light Brigade

No way would she have kept this a secret! She’s supposedly having an affair with a high powered (rich) executive/radio host/politician who was good to her, took her on trips, etc. This would simply be too juicy to keep to herself.

Cindie


176 posted on 11/30/2011 12:43:34 AM PST by gardencatz (I'm lucky enough to live, walk & breathe among heroes! I am the mother of a US Marine!)
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To: Fred

So if the leftists want to get rid of a Black conservative, all they have to do is get disturbed women to lie. I wonder how much $$ these women are getting?


177 posted on 11/30/2011 1:03:57 AM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: keats5

“Did his stage 4 colon cancer indeed coincide with this alleged affair? I wonder if the timing could be nailed down.”

Hannity said that Cain had Stage 4 cancer during this time.


178 posted on 11/30/2011 1:17:42 AM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: keats5
I also don’t get why any woman would want to go on National TV...

The question is answered easy enough by accessing the interview she did with Atlanta's FOX 5.

Excerpt:

White was worried a political tsunami was headed her way. So, she decided to head it off, by confessing she was involved in a 13-year-long affair with presidential hopeful Herman Cain.

Everything else aside, it seems reasonable to me, especially since there was no indication that counsel was present.

179 posted on 11/30/2011 1:22:34 AM PST by csense
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To: Mike Darancette
In Obama's case, it was men. Google Donald Young, the openly gay choir director at TUCC.

After a few of them were murdered execution style, the rest (excepting Larry Sinclair) deciding to button it up.

180 posted on 11/30/2011 4:22:11 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: onyx

Hey, you got something against “Black Noise”? Huh!!


181 posted on 11/30/2011 6:25:19 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (.Are they stupid, malicious or evil?)
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To: Jabba the Nutt
Hey!

Good to see you and heck no!!!

:)


182 posted on 11/30/2011 6:28:12 AM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC:DONATE MONTHLY! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: Fred

In God we trust. All others Bring Data (in this caes, evidence of said affir).

What, no CONCRETE evidence?

Thought not.

Next.........


183 posted on 11/30/2011 7:43:11 AM PST by roaddog727 (It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
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To: Politics4US

I don’t believe she had an affair with Cain.”””

Nor do I.

I think she was looking for a Sugar Daddy to help pay her way thru life.

She snookered him into believeing that he was giving advice to a woman who wanted to ‘be in a business of her own’’.

I don’t trust a single word out of her mouth.

Another thingL

HOW COME EVERY ONE OF THE WOMEN CAIN IS ACCUSED OF BEHAVING IMPROPERLY WITH HAS A SERIES OF FINANCIAL PROBLEMS?????


184 posted on 11/30/2011 7:53:39 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: justsaynomore

Cain’s campaign paid the $10,000 filing fee in Nevada for the caucuses (primary elections) just yesterday. Friday is the deadline for such filings.


185 posted on 11/30/2011 7:56:42 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: umgud

I will bet you dollars to doughnuts that Gloria Allred is behind the scenes
on this one also, the libs are not stupid they know Gloria is toxic to us.
Gloria has been hinting of another surprise on several Fox shows!!!
This has this witches fingerprints all over it!!!!!!


186 posted on 11/30/2011 8:15:05 AM PST by Kit cat (OBummer must go)
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To: csense

Why would a political tsunami be headed her way? Until this, she was a nobody.


187 posted on 11/30/2011 9:32:05 AM PST by LevinFan
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To: little jeremiah

Sorry. I’m not going to do your research for you. Buh, bye.


188 posted on 11/30/2011 9:40:31 AM PST by colorado tanker
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To: 1010RD
You must receive notice and if proper notice isn't given the verdict can be reversed with a single hearing

That's just naive. Lots of stuff happens in the judicial system that isn't supposed to happen. We just don't know enough facts right now to be making the judgments people are making.

189 posted on 11/30/2011 9:43:09 AM PST by colorado tanker
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To: Lucky9teen

Sounds like someone switched to the other team, got dumped there as well, then lashed out. (Hey, she was a ‘basketball wife’... must have been used to the good life).

Business partners can be brutal, but that’s real personal, not business.

I like how she knew about her tastes and her shooting up (when did she see that), but never disclosed she saw Cain to her friend, ever.

Some ‘friend’. I also note if these accusations came out about Obama, black people from Eden to the untouchables in India would be raising hell. Feel the silence.

Alright, distraction over; Where the hell are ‘the young guns’ and Boehner while our country’s getting destroyed?


190 posted on 11/30/2011 9:54:55 AM PST by AliVeritas (Pray. God's will be done. Occupy updates at Verum Serum and Urban Infidel.)
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To: moovova

Wow, even her nipples have muscles!


191 posted on 11/30/2011 10:01:48 AM PST by jaydubya2
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To: colorado tanker

You made the claim that 0bama was “vetted” by the MSM and everyone knew about his radical past, sayings, actions, associations, etc.

You made the claim.

You can’t back it up.

It’s not my job to back up your claim.


192 posted on 11/30/2011 10:14:05 AM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: jaydubya2
Wow, even her nipples have muscles!

I wasn't gonna say that... ;-)

193 posted on 11/30/2011 10:38:22 AM PST by moovova (Report my sarcastic, fear-mongering, hate-filled lies to www.AttackWatch.com by clicking HERE.)
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To: Future Useless Eater

To one degree or another, I agree with your comments, questions, reasoning.

I think you’re on the right track here.


194 posted on 11/30/2011 11:13:28 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Romney, Newt, any chance whatsoever you might sometime pander to U.S. Citizens vs the illegals?)
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To: Ingtar

Ingtar, I’m not inclined to argue with you over this. I’ve done quite a bit of searching to come to the conclusion I have. McCain has partnered with the worst political players in our nation, and perhaps the world when you include Soros.

Others are undesirable to be sure, but McCain’s evil actions really are in a class of their own.

http://www.hotr.us/mccain/mccainagain.html


195 posted on 11/30/2011 11:17:58 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Romney, Newt, any chance whatsoever you might sometime pander to U.S. Citizens vs the illegals?)
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To: teeman8r

Thank you.


196 posted on 11/30/2011 11:21:31 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Romney, Newt, any chance whatsoever you might sometime pander to U.S. Citizens vs the illegals?)
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To: colorado tanker
Lots of stuff happens in the judicial system that isn't supposed to happen.

Naivete is believing that it cannot be undone. The judicial system is aware of its faults and works to avoid them. If the libel judgement is by default it would be and could be reversed. Unless the defaulting party doesn't want to.

197 posted on 11/30/2011 2:53:29 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD
Of course it can be undone.

She may have just learned about it and not done it yet. She may not want to spend the money. She may have settled up with the plaintiff so she's not worried about it. She may be negotiating about it right now. Lots of possibilities.

198 posted on 11/30/2011 2:59:52 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker

So you’d let your client gear up to go national with a story that has serious implications in a Presidential race without first cleaning up her messes? Get serious.

The theme across all the Cain ‘women’ is that they’re heavy users of the judicial system and the ‘system’ in general. The game is to wound, not to kill. Eventually, when all the ‘truth’ comes out. Cain will be out of the race and so wounded that he cannot support the nominee during the real fight, the one to unseat Obama.

The goal is to re-elect Obama, anyway and anyhow. Capice?


199 posted on 11/30/2011 3:06:40 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: onyx

Hey, I just noticed that your handle is ‘onyx’. Funny with my “accusation”.


200 posted on 11/30/2011 4:34:24 PM PST by Jabba the Nutt (.Are they stupid, malicious or evil?)
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