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Obama Legalizes Horse Slaughter for Human Consumption
Technocrati ^ | 11-28-11

Posted on 11/29/2011 4:55:10 PM PST by SJackson

Horse slaughter plants are legal again in the United States. Restrictions on horse meat processing for human consumption have been lifted.

In a bipartisan effort, the House of Representatives and the United States Senate approved the Conference Committee report on spending bill H2112, which among other things, funds the United States Department of Agriculture. On November 18th, as the country was celebrating Thanksgiving, President Obama signed a law, allowing Americans to kill and eat horses. Essentially, one turkey was pardoned in the presence of worldwide media while in the shadows, buried under pages of fiscal regulation, millions of horses were sentenced to death.

Horse slaughter has been prohibited in the United States as funding for inspections of horses in transit and at slaughter houses was non-existent. This worked because the horse meat cannot be sold for human consumption without such inspections. The House version of the bill retained the de-funding language and the Senate version did not. The conference committee charged with reconciling the two opted to not include it. The result is that it is now legal to slaughter horses for humans to eat.

Notwithstanding that 70% of Americans oppose horse slaughter, that President Obama made a campaign promise to permanently ban horse slaughter and exports of horses for human consumption (horses can be sent to Mexico and Canada), that documentation of animal cruelty, slaughterhouse stench, fluid runoff and negative community impact exists, it is taxpayers that will bear the costs!

Wyoming state representative Sue Wallis and her pro-slaughter group estimate that between 120,000 and 200,000 horses will be killed for human consumption per year and that Oregon, Idaho, Wyoming, Montana, Nebraska, North Dakota, Georgia and Missouri, are considering opening slaughter plants.

During these trying times, is the only thing that Democrats and Republicans can agree on is that Americans need to eat horses?

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1 posted on 11/29/2011 4:55:14 PM PST by SJackson
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To: SJackson

Tastes like chicken./s


2 posted on 11/29/2011 4:57:49 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: SJackson

I had 2013 in the pool for when the USA becomes an official 3rd world nation. Damn!


3 posted on 11/29/2011 4:59:11 PM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: SJackson

“is the only thing that Democrats and Republicans can agree on is that Americans need to eat horses?”

Is there any serious argument FOR the government telling us what meats we can and cannot consume?


4 posted on 11/29/2011 4:59:16 PM PST by Grunthor (Pro-illegal alien "conservatives" piss me off.)
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To: SJackson
A shallow and ill researched screed worthy of PETA.

The only real story here is Obama trying to jump in and take credit for congress repealing a mess they had ill advisedly made.

5 posted on 11/29/2011 4:59:49 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Iowa Granny; Ladysmith; Diana in Wisconsin; JLO; sergeantdave; damncat; phantomworker; joesnuffy; ..
If you’d like to be on or off this Outdoors/Rural/wildlife/hunting/hiking/backpacking/National Parks/animals list please FR mail me. And ping me is you see articles of interest.

It's been a couple years since we visited this topic. At the time I think the issue was shipping horses to France, where humans eat them.

Can't blame Obama till he signs the bill, but he's written about eating dog in Indonesia, so this shouldn't be an issue.

Personally I'm not a horse fan, but I certainly wouldn't eat one for various reasons. I suppose eating horse doesn't have to be illegal, but I always wonder about the impetus to changes. Is there a "let's eat horse" lobby? Do they want horse as an ingredient on Iron Chef?

6 posted on 11/29/2011 4:59:51 PM PST by SJackson (Haven't changed the environment, just take a bath. Eat a piece of chocolate. You need one. Michelle)
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To: SJackson

Paging PETA!


7 posted on 11/29/2011 5:00:19 PM PST by FES0844
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To: SJackson

Just because Americans don’t eat horse meat is no reason to ban slaughterhouses from processing horses for export. Such bans merely lead to the export of live horses who are then slaughtered in Mexico and then Mexican’s end up with jobs that Americans could definitely use right about now.

Oh, and when you live on a ranch you discover that “wild horse” is how you say ‘pigeon’ in the country.


8 posted on 11/29/2011 5:00:28 PM PST by MeganC (No way in Hell am I voting for Mitt Romney. Not now, not ever. Deal with it.)
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To: SJackson

A Muslim Holiday special?


9 posted on 11/29/2011 5:00:38 PM PST by cricket (Obama - Be Gone! (Newt could make it happen))
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To: SJackson

Read the labels on the hamburger and dog food contents, very, very carefully!


10 posted on 11/29/2011 5:00:38 PM PST by Noob1999 (Loose Lips, Sink Ships)
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To: SJackson

This is disgusting! I’ll eat alot of things, but I draw the line at horses. What’s next? Dogs and cats? And people say he’s compassionate!


11 posted on 11/29/2011 5:00:50 PM PST by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: SJackson

I guess they cannot print food stamps fast enough to keep up with Obama’s give-away programs....


12 posted on 11/29/2011 5:01:16 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: Grunthor
Is there any serious argument FOR the government telling us what meats we can and cannot consume?

No, and yes. Don't know if this crosses the threshold, but practically the politician that supports the right to eat cats and dogs will lose. Horses, who knows.

13 posted on 11/29/2011 5:03:28 PM PST by SJackson (Haven't changed the environment, just take a bath. Eat a piece of chocolate. You need one. Michelle)
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To: SJackson
It is about time they corrected this.
Under the old laws older or unwanted horses were often left to starve to death. With the economy in shambles people could not afford to keep horses around. It got to the point that you couldn't even give a good horse away. With the restrictions in place some people just turned them out on government land and fed the coyotes and mountain lions.There have been a dozen cases in this area where horses were found dead or nearly dead of starvation. Even the people who originally supported this wanted it overturned. I don't know where you got that 70% figure but it sure isn't true around here.
14 posted on 11/29/2011 5:03:46 PM PST by oldenuff2no (Rangers lead the way...... Delta, the original European home land security)
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To: SJackson

“Wilbu-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r! Put down the chain saw!”


15 posted on 11/29/2011 5:04:12 PM PST by dynachrome ("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")
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To: SJackson

16 posted on 11/29/2011 5:04:34 PM PST by South40 (Just say NO to pro-ILLEGAL alien RINOS!)
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To: SJackson

The propaganda said that slaughtering horses for dog food had been made illegal. Maybe that was a lie. If you want European style steak tartar, go back to Italy. This is not Europe.


17 posted on 11/29/2011 5:04:46 PM PST by familyop ("Don't worry, they'll row for a month before they figure out I'm fakin' it." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: SJackson

Can I get fries with that?


18 posted on 11/29/2011 5:04:50 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: SJackson

Obama Legalizes Horse Slaughter for Human Consumption


19 posted on 11/29/2011 5:06:08 PM PST by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: SJackson

As much as we all like horses, this is a good thing. Here in OK, hay and grain prices coupled with the bad economy have forced people to turn their horses loose. You can’t give horses away anymore. I don’t know how many free horses I have turned down this fall. Taking them to the live stock auction used to get you at least $100, now even young but unbroken horses bring less than the $10 auction fee.


20 posted on 11/29/2011 5:06:18 PM PST by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: MeganC
Just because Americans don’t eat horse meat is no reason to ban slaughterhouses from processing horses for export

Or domestic consumption. I guess it's a values thing. I've no real position either way, other than to note that if most American's oppose horse slaughter, haven't a clue, then there's no reason to change. Same position on dogs and cats.

21 posted on 11/29/2011 5:08:11 PM PST by SJackson (Haven't changed the environment, just take a bath. Eat a piece of chocolate. You need one. Michelle)
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To: oneamericanvoice

Back in the day (1970’s) I bought canned horse meat in the generic aisle in the supermarket.
It made great chili & other dishes while camping. Tasted good too.


22 posted on 11/29/2011 5:08:23 PM PST by LFOD (Formerly - Iraq, Afgahnistan - back home in Dixie.)
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To: Noob1999

look for Flicka, Fury, Silver, Scout, Trigger etc;..


23 posted on 11/29/2011 5:09:11 PM PST by SF_Redux (Sarah stands for accountablility and personal responsiblity, democrats can't live with that)
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To: SJackson

As a longtime horse owner, this disgusts me. Horses are not cows.


24 posted on 11/29/2011 5:09:33 PM PST by liberalh8ter
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To: vladimir998

Actually it tastes like a cross between beef and venison.

I had it in Russia and it was pretty good.


25 posted on 11/29/2011 5:10:55 PM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: SJackson

This is actually a good thing (and I say this as a horse owner). It used to be legal here, and slaughterhouses were humane (well, as much as they can be) and the horses were also scanned for chips indicating that they were owned and may have been rustled from a field. When US slaughterhouses were made illegal, horses were then taken to the closest ones, in Mexico, which is both a longer trip and where conditions are probably pretty horrible.

Horses that are sent to slaughter are sometimes old work horses, but often are untameable horses (such as mustangs that somebody has bought way too late to domesticate), dangerous horses with a history of attacking human beings, and deformed or permanently injured horses from institutional settings (breeding farms, for example).

It would be much better for them to be sent to local slaughterhouses that followed US practice and also checked them to see if they were branded or chipped and if the owner was aware that the horse had been sent there. Horse rustling is still a big thing in rural areas where people leave horses out in distant pastures near the road.


26 posted on 11/29/2011 5:10:55 PM PST by livius
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To: South40

That’s not right Willburrr.


27 posted on 11/29/2011 5:11:37 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: Don Corleone
The REAL CHOICE here is whether or not we want to allow owners to just turn their older or injured horses loose to starve to death in National Forests and state parks ~ which has been what was going on.

I think it's better to slaughter these animals than to leave it up to the owners to starve them.

Anyone who disagrees with me on this matter is SICK.

28 posted on 11/29/2011 5:11:36 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: cricket
Am wondering too; will this be sitting in next bin; next to hamburger in the meat case at grocery? Will the Gov decide that it is more healthy; and promote horse meat and serve this in schools for health benefits? The 'horse' is as close to a 'sacred cow' as we can get. So; IMHO; an altogether disgusting development.

Can only imagine the law suits and 'issues' when people find that the meat served up; was not what it was supposed to be and we are all on alert for 'buyer beware'.

29 posted on 11/29/2011 5:12:12 PM PST by cricket
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To: liberalh8ter
It is highly probable the first horses to be domesticated were intended to be used as a source of meat.

Back in the day horses were so small a large man could not possibly ride one. You will see them teamed together to pull small chariots which were built as light as possible.

The modern horse is a product of selective breeding for larger, stronger animals.

30 posted on 11/29/2011 5:14:32 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: SJackson

Mrs Hogwallop up and R-U-N-N-O-F-T.

She must have been lookin’ for answers.

Possibly. Good riddance, as far as I’m concerned.
I do miss her cooking, though.

This stew’s awful good.

Think so?
I slaughtered this horse last Tuesday.
I’m afraid she’s startin’ to turn.


31 posted on 11/29/2011 5:15:37 PM PST by Repeal The 17th
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To: oldenuff2no
Excellent point..Going slightly astray, in the suburbs of the Metro NYC area, the deer population is out of control, and has been for years, because there are no natural predators, and because hunting is not allowed, other than bow, and that, only in some municipalities.

As a result, each winter, tens of thousands of deer are killed by either starvation, being hit by autos, trains, and other vehicles...and causing hundreds of human deaths and tens of million in damages, taken down by wild dogs..and sually left to die a horrid death.

People in suburbia suffer form the Bambi syndrome..don't want the "cute" deer hunted, so they unwittingly condemn thousands to awful deaths.

Instead, hunting would raise revenues via sale of licenses, spare many deer from starvation , result in a stronger herd, and many hunters would gladly donate an extra kill to be used to feed hungry families. Venison is gaining in popularity, especially as it's very low in fat content...

32 posted on 11/29/2011 5:15:41 PM PST by ken5050 (Support Admin Mods: Doing the tough, hard, dirty jobs that Americans won't do...)
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To: SJackson

Why shouldn’t people be allowed to eat horses if they want to? People eat pig, lobster and all kinds of other critters.


33 posted on 11/29/2011 5:16:05 PM PST by ari-freedom
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To: SJackson; All
Folks, you're falling into the trap of assuming Obama is thinking like we do. He's a manipulative marxist dictator wannabe.

He's doing this for the exact same reason he's blocking new pipelines and drilling, and forcing mass public transit down our throats....

HE'S DOING THIS BECAUSE A POPULACE THAT CANNOT MOVE, CANNOT REVOLT !

Horses would be very useful in case of Civil War II, don't you think ?

34 posted on 11/29/2011 5:17:34 PM PST by SENTINEL (Romney is to Conservatism what Mormonism is to Christianity.)
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To: SJackson
Well, France, Italy--same thing.

Horse meat faces ban in Italy
The Telegraph
By Nick Pisa in Rome
6:20AM GMT 08 Feb 2010
Excerpt:
"Italy is the largest consumer of horsemeat in Europe with more than 48,000 metric tonnes eaten every year and it is a common dish among youngsters because of its high iron content."


35 posted on 11/29/2011 5:17:34 PM PST by familyop ("Don't worry, they'll row for a month before they figure out I'm fakin' it." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: oldenuff2no

On a trip not long ago on I-70 ~ we saw DOZENS of starving horses on public lands within sight of the highway ~ all the way from DC to Indianapolis.


36 posted on 11/29/2011 5:18:20 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: cripplecreek
That’s not right Willburrr.

A certain fast food is making plans as we speak, Tentatively it's going to be called a McMr.Ed

37 posted on 11/29/2011 5:19:22 PM PST by Focault's Pendulum (Moose Alert!!!! Get some sleeves!)
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To: vladimir998
Looks like meat

38 posted on 11/29/2011 5:20:33 PM PST by ari-freedom
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To: cricket

I’d imagine the local LA Mart is going to have it back there between the QUAIL EGGS and SNAKE


39 posted on 11/29/2011 5:20:37 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: cricket
will this be sitting in next bin; next to hamburger in the meat case at grocery? Will the Gov decide that it is more healthy; and promote horse meat

Didn't work for buffalo.

Then again, if Michelle is a fan of horse.....

with fries.....

I'm told in France the best fries are cooked in horse fat.

In deference to our French allies, I'm going to resist the temptation to post horse receipes.

40 posted on 11/29/2011 5:20:45 PM PST by SJackson (Haven't changed the environment, just take a bath. Eat a piece of chocolate. You need one. Michelle)
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To: SJackson

There is no reason to ban horse meat for human consumption. Horses are commodities. If you want to keep a horse as a pet, fine. But don’t limit other people’s freedom.


41 posted on 11/29/2011 5:20:52 PM PST by namvolunteer (Trying to adhere to liberal rules of engagement when they have no rules is suicide. - Maelstrom)
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To: SJackson

Sarah Jessica Parker better lay low, if she knows what’s good for her.


42 posted on 11/29/2011 5:21:06 PM PST by Yankee (Welcome to Obama's Fourth Reich.)
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To: Focault's Pendulum

I’ll take a number 3 Shetland meal please.


43 posted on 11/29/2011 5:21:30 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: SJackson

Is dog meat next?


44 posted on 11/29/2011 5:22:16 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: MeganC
Such bans merely lead to the export of live horses who are then slaughtered in Mexico....I thought we banned export for slaughter a few years ago. Could be wrong, that's based on some threads a few years ago, and the issue was export of wild horses rounded up by whatever government agency rounds them up.
45 posted on 11/29/2011 5:23:02 PM PST by SJackson (Haven't changed the environment, just take a bath. Eat a piece of chocolate. You need one. Michelle)
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To: MeganC

Oh, and when you live on a ranch you discover that “wild horse” is how you say ‘pigeon’ in the country.

LOL


46 posted on 11/29/2011 5:24:42 PM PST by Chickensoup (In the 20th century 200 million people were killed by their own governments.)
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To: Nachum

Before obama leaves the WEhite House you might be glad to get some dog meat to eat.


47 posted on 11/29/2011 5:25:09 PM PST by sport
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To: SJackson

Congress passed the law, but Obama gets the kudos. Figures!

It’s more likely to happen humanely if it’s done in the states. People were still consuming horse meat, and the abbatoirs were in Canada and Mexico.

Now when you want to cook a winner, it can be 100% domestic.


48 posted on 11/29/2011 5:25:14 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: SJackson

Yee haa, Trigger to the plate!!
This is a good deal.
There are so many horses running loose and starving.
The drought in TX had horses being sold at sale barns for less than $20.
Prime stock, but could not be kept due to food cost.
The scum let them loose on others property to die of starvation.
There needs to be a market for the overabundance of horse and livestock.
Too many of the feel good girls let their ponies run loose on others land, only to suffer a horrible death.
It’s not Disney land out there, you well intentioned goofballs.
Life gets in the way of free range horses!


49 posted on 11/29/2011 5:25:36 PM PST by 9422WMR
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To: SJackson

How endearing.


50 posted on 11/29/2011 5:25:57 PM PST by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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