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Obama Legalizes Horse Slaughter for Human Consumption
Technocrati ^ | 11-28-11

Posted on 11/29/2011 4:55:10 PM PST by SJackson

Horse slaughter plants are legal again in the United States. Restrictions on horse meat processing for human consumption have been lifted.

In a bipartisan effort, the House of Representatives and the United States Senate approved the Conference Committee report on spending bill H2112, which among other things, funds the United States Department of Agriculture. On November 18th, as the country was celebrating Thanksgiving, President Obama signed a law, allowing Americans to kill and eat horses. Essentially, one turkey was pardoned in the presence of worldwide media while in the shadows, buried under pages of fiscal regulation, millions of horses were sentenced to death.

Horse slaughter has been prohibited in the United States as funding for inspections of horses in transit and at slaughter houses was non-existent. This worked because the horse meat cannot be sold for human consumption without such inspections. The House version of the bill retained the de-funding language and the Senate version did not. The conference committee charged with reconciling the two opted to not include it. The result is that it is now legal to slaughter horses for humans to eat.

Notwithstanding that 70% of Americans oppose horse slaughter, that President Obama made a campaign promise to permanently ban horse slaughter and exports of horses for human consumption (horses can be sent to Mexico and Canada), that documentation of animal cruelty, slaughterhouse stench, fluid runoff and negative community impact exists, it is taxpayers that will bear the costs!

Wyoming state representative Sue Wallis and her pro-slaughter group estimate that between 120,000 and 200,000 horses will be killed for human consumption per year and that Oregon, Idaho, Wyoming, Montana, Nebraska, North Dakota, Georgia and Missouri, are considering opening slaughter plants.

During these trying times, is the only thing that Democrats and Republicans can agree on is that Americans need to eat horses?

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To: livius; freedomfiter2

I can’t really disagree that this is a good thing. Whether I eat them or not, I’m not really sure where, beyond health, the govenment has a role in the consumption of domesticated animals.


51 posted on 11/29/2011 5:25:57 PM PST by SJackson (Haven't changed the environment, just take a bath. Eat a piece of chocolate. You need one. Michelle)
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To: SJackson
Pony filet anyone?

52 posted on 11/29/2011 5:26:39 PM PST by ari-freedom
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To: SJackson

I wouldn’t exactly suggest a diet of dog or cat, though.


53 posted on 11/29/2011 5:27:04 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: cricket

Horse meat is not Halal.

This is a good law, the situation at present was a horrid tragedy, especially since the recession hit hard and the number of wild horses being adopted in BLS auctions had plummeted.

Congress should never have whored themselves out to the PETA crowd in the first place, sanity wins over the short sighted Utopianism of emotionally unstable “animal lovers”.


54 posted on 11/29/2011 5:27:29 PM PST by JerseyHighlander
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To: ari-freedom

That won’t give you the trots, will it?


55 posted on 11/29/2011 5:27:47 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: ari-freedom
Why shouldn’t people be allowed to eat horses if they want to?

I can't think of any reason.

56 posted on 11/29/2011 5:28:01 PM PST by SJackson (Haven't changed the environment, just take a bath. Eat a piece of chocolate. You need one. Michelle)
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To: SJackson
Well, I guess this will help Seniors, after all, aren't most (thanks to those eeeeevil, greeeeedy, heartless Republicans) relegated to eating dog food?

As an aside, during WWII, my Grandfather had a meat market here in VT and my Mom told me that as result of beef being scarce, he sold horse meat in his store.

Having spent years living in and traveling throughout the Far East (while serving in the USAF in the 60's, including an 18 month tour in Nam) I have no doubt that I ate all kinds of animals (including dog) that one would not normally have on their menu.

I guess if one does not have access to what we are accustomed to eating and/or one has eaten something we might consider strange, for decades--or centuries--some who live in other countries might consider out reluctance (or disgust) over the thought of eating what they do (and enjoy) as being as strange as we do towards their customs.

57 posted on 11/29/2011 5:28:30 PM PST by Conservative Vermont Vet (l)
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To: oneamericanvoice
You are pretty clueless on the concept of economics in general.

Real life is not “My Little Pony.”

Horses die.
Some have defects that kill them, others develop fatal diseases or are attacked and critically injured by other animals.
A lot of them even have to be put down on purpose because (Contrary to make believe world) they are violent tempered and pose a danger to other animals and to their human handlers. This has to be done no matter what is done with the body.

A horse carcass is a huge piece of meat. If it can not be sold for consumption by animals or humans then disposal becomes a pretty hefty financial drain on a small operation.

Have you ever even thought about this? The basics I have given you used to be taught in elementary school.

58 posted on 11/29/2011 5:29:00 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: SJackson

Yeah, we need to get a legitimate fderal government that governs only where given the authority by the US Constitution.


59 posted on 11/29/2011 5:29:21 PM PST by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: liberalh8ter

They aren’t children either.


60 posted on 11/29/2011 5:30:38 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Nachum
Is dog meat next?

Hard to find a reason to say no.

61 posted on 11/29/2011 5:30:38 PM PST by SJackson (Haven't changed the environment, just take a bath. Eat a piece of chocolate. You need one. Michelle)
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To: livius
This is actually a good thing

Yes, I agree. This seems to repeal a bad law, which seemed to be based on the belief that horses live forever and don't need food. Since it is a necessary function, it might as well create American jobs.

62 posted on 11/29/2011 5:32:54 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: oneamericanvoice

Horses and Cows eat grass and have a hoof. Why not? Horsemeat is lean and these are of unwanted horses, not Secretariat.


63 posted on 11/29/2011 5:33:39 PM PST by omega4179 (We can't wait!............. for the end of an error.....1-20-13)
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To: ari-freedom
During the Korean War, our house ate horse meat and thought it was fine steak.

BTW, on the intelligence scale, how do cows and horses compare? How about dogs and horses, or Dolphins and horses? ...

You see, measuring just intelligence level is a trap. Emotions and loyalty/imprinting instincts are factors not counted, yet they are what make horses such loyal beasts and dogs such loyal companions. As a grown up, I wouldn't want to eat a horse or a dog. I have too much love for them to do that.

64 posted on 11/29/2011 5:33:39 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: SJackson
But they're so cute! Photobucket
65 posted on 11/29/2011 5:34:25 PM PST by ladyvet ( I would rather have Incitatus then the asses that are in congress today.)
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To: SJackson

66 posted on 11/29/2011 5:34:49 PM PST by al baby (Is that old windbag still on the air ?)
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To: SJackson; Nachum

The Revolutionary militias in NJ, NY, and Eastern PA were eating dogs during the revolutionary war during thew 2 brutal winters they traversed and camped here.

What can be more American?


67 posted on 11/29/2011 5:36:04 PM PST by JerseyHighlander
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To: SJackson

But don’t even think about drinking unpasturized milk...


68 posted on 11/29/2011 5:38:13 PM PST by moovova (Report my sarcastic, fear-mongering, hate-filled lies to www.AttackWatch.com by clicking HERE.)
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To: muawiyah
Fossilized bones of eohippus, the ancient precursor to the horse, were found here in the New World. The horse evolved on the plains of the American desert. What happened to them that they disappeared, and when the Spaniards re-introduced them, the Indians were amazed? They had no knowledge of such an animal. In prehistoric days, horses disappeared from North America because they were eaten by the ancestors of indigenous peoples. Nothing new under the sun.
69 posted on 11/29/2011 5:39:30 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: JerseyHighlander

I suppose I would have too, though I wouldn’t buy dog at the grocery. Our generations have C and K rats, MCIs and MREs, dog isn’t necessary. But your point about protein is well made, it’s a matter of necessity, and social mores. No matter how hungry, I doubt eating Patton’s Willy or Ikes scotty, name forgotten by me, would have been a safe option.


70 posted on 11/29/2011 5:43:32 PM PST by SJackson (Haven't changed the environment, just take a bath. Eat a piece of chocolate. You need one. Michelle)
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To: Repeal The 17th
“Think so?
I slaughtered this horse last Tuesday.
I’m afraid she’s startin’ to turn.”

One of the funniest scenes from one of the funniest movies!
Did you notice he was using a hoof cleaning tool for a table
knife?

71 posted on 11/29/2011 5:43:44 PM PST by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: SJackson

To a Republican party with a brain in its head in an economy that is collapsing, this is pure headline gold.


72 posted on 11/29/2011 5:44:43 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (Madoff screwed the rich. Bernanke screwed us all.)
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To: JerseyHighlander
Not Halal. . .good; because there are a great many Muslims in the world. . .As for Peta; no fan, for certain. Do love horses, however; and put this up there, say, with legalizing 'dogs' for their meat. I don't know; but do believe, some things should just not be deemed 'practical'.

And speaking of dogs; given how many are similarly; in trouble; i.e. put down; etc ET Al issues.

Will dogs, in fact; be next? Cats? Where do we stop with this?

73 posted on 11/29/2011 5:46:16 PM PST by cricket
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To: SJackson

Horsemeat was and still is a delicacy in Europe. Most horsemeat is imported from the USA and is more expensive than other meats.


74 posted on 11/29/2011 5:46:46 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: SJackson

Some years ago we were given an elderly horse that had been, in its day, a high dollar, high trained animal. Its owner had been injured and was not able to care for the animals so it was put out to pasture with the rest. Due to its age, it was unable to compete and lost a lot of weight.

We had her looking pretty good and one day I walk out to check her only to find her dead.

I would have gladly loaded it and taken to the packing plant if that were an option.

Since the slaughter houses were no longer around, I had 2 options, spend several hundred dollars for an animal disposal company to remove and bury it or drag it to the back of the property and led nature dispose of it.

I guess nature ate well for a few days.


75 posted on 11/29/2011 5:47:26 PM PST by Clay Moore (The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of a fool to the left. Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

Headline is misleading, it’s in Congress. Should Obama sign it, perhaps, but it will be bi partison. Headline shouldn’t have mentioned Obama, imo.


76 posted on 11/29/2011 5:47:49 PM PST by SJackson (Haven't changed the environment, just take a bath. Eat a piece of chocolate. You need one. Michelle)
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To: CrazyIvan

“...Did you notice he was using a hoof cleaning tool for a table knife?...”
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HA!
I’ll have to look for that next time I watch it.


77 posted on 11/29/2011 5:52:41 PM PST by Repeal The 17th
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To: cricket
Will dogs, in fact; be next? Cats? Where do we stop with this?

Maybe we draw the line at bikers, at least helmetless bikers.

Donate their organs, maybe skin, but the real protein, muscle mass, goes unused.

I'm open to these things, but I'd stop at dogs and cats, horses, not a fan so I'd leave that up to horse owners, but the line to be drawn is a collective line, probably best by the states rather than the Feds. Not that I think any states would endorse eating bikers.

78 posted on 11/29/2011 5:53:26 PM PST by SJackson (Haven't changed the environment, just take a bath. Eat a piece of chocolate. You need one. Michelle)
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To: SJackson
This act will make the horses more valuable and in the long run more horses will be treated humanely. Yes, since the slaughter ban on horses the way horses have been treated has deteriorated significantly. The last ten years I've seen horses mistreated, starved, and treated horribly because there was no bottom to the value of a horse.

For those of you who remember, horse meat was also packed by the USDA back in the 1960's and the poor and aged received the meat for free.

79 posted on 11/29/2011 5:54:27 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: SJackson

Well, give credit where credit is due: a deregulatory measure coming from the Obama administration! No longer will the nanny-state tell us we can’t eat horse meat. Now we’ll be able to try all those French, Icelandic, Japanese, Korean and Mongolian dishes that call for horse meat without traveling to distant parts of the world. Well, unless the nanny-staters in your particular state get in the way: evidently some states have state laws forbidding the sale, or perhaps even the consumption, of horse meat.


80 posted on 11/29/2011 5:55:39 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: SJackson

This is horrible as the reliable sources I have read show there is no such thing as humane horse slaughter.


81 posted on 11/29/2011 5:55:55 PM PST by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: SJackson

I ate horse in Ukraine. it was ok but I don’t see too many people liking it. I would not eat it again.


82 posted on 11/29/2011 5:56:47 PM PST by napscoordinator (Anybody but Romney, Newt, Perry, Huntsman, Paul. Perry and Obama are 100 percent the same!!!!!)
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To: Psalm 144

BAck during the bogus ‘beef shortage’ of the 70s, it was for sale in the supermarket in Las Vegas.

Very low fat, and tasty.

Mule isn’t so good.

Took a pass on dog while in the ROK...


83 posted on 11/29/2011 5:58:45 PM PST by ASOC (What are you doing now that Mexico has become OUR Chechnya?)
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To: hinckley buzzard
Plus, some kind of disease or the other. Not enough people here to kill them all. That took thousands of years. Now we can kill anything!
84 posted on 11/29/2011 6:00:54 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: ari-freedom; moovova

I’ll take one of those with a pile of fried potatoes and onions and large, cold glass of raw milk.


85 posted on 11/29/2011 6:02:17 PM PST by Delta 21 (Make your choice ! There are NO civilians.)
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To: cricket

We keep sending rice to the NORK military to feed the prison guards that oversee prison camps where several thousand children are butchered and eaten every year.

Horse meat has been part of human gastronomy going back to the original untamed horses in central Asia highlands.

IN the continental United States, no area of wilderness is more than 18 miles from a road. There is no longer a wilderness for the pretty horses to run wild, and the BLS has been fighting to maintain healthy mustang populations through culling programs for years, and the situation is untenable at current. Saving the mustangs by not culling destroyed the ENTIRE ecosystem, the horse herds ate every piece of vegetation and created desertification in under 20 years in some areas.

As mentioned in an above post in the NYC area there are so many deer due to idiotic anti-hunting regulations that over 30 species of native ground nesting birds no longer exist here, as well as many many other species of flora and fauna. And the prior NJ DEP head is the Obama EPA head, and Lisa P Jackson is an anti-hunting zealot...

The watermelon and emotive enviros can not properly form conservation policy, as they have proven over and over again in the prior four decades. Hopefully Congress will stop whoring themselves out to insane PR campaigns by enviro-idiots in the future.


86 posted on 11/29/2011 6:03:26 PM PST by JerseyHighlander
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To: SJackson
And I'm still waiting for the promised my little pony!

"I'm sorry, sweetie, the President ate it!"

87 posted on 11/29/2011 6:03:35 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: SJackson
I own a very nice horse leather holster for my Glock 19, a Galco Skyops. Horses ARE killed for human consumption in the USA. Not something I particularly want to eat, BUT again, we will be using more of the carcass.
88 posted on 11/29/2011 6:04:00 PM PST by nerdwithagun (I'd rather go gun to gun then knife to knife.)
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To: vladimir998

89 posted on 11/29/2011 6:04:10 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: livius

90 posted on 11/29/2011 6:04:10 PM PST by GreenLanternCorps ("Barack Obama" is Swahili for "Jimmy Carter".)
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To: vetvetdoug

Yes, this is good for the horses. It restores a monetary value to older horses that no longer earn their keep, and will encourage owners to sell them rather than neglect them to die from poor nutrition and declining health.

As mentioned above, far too many horses have been dumped onto public lands by their economically challenged owners. When turned loose, the horses usually die a horrible death within 18 months.

As to which is smarter, the horse or cow, hands down the cow! Horses are really stupid, but mules are a whole nother story. Mules are often smarter than their riders!


91 posted on 11/29/2011 6:04:48 PM PST by wrench
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To: SJackson
Horse slaughter plants are legal again in the United States.

Good.

Better that they are sold for legal slaughter than what is happening now which is people are dumping them.

People can take dogs or cats to shelters. Cows and pigs can be sold for slaughter but what the heck do you do with a unwanted horse, donkey or mule?

92 posted on 11/29/2011 6:06:26 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (*Philosophy lesson 117-22b: Anyone who demands to be respected is undeserving of it.*)
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To: Psalm 144

I wonder how it compares to Bison?


93 posted on 11/29/2011 6:07:13 PM PST by Principle Over Politics (All rights are not created equal.)
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To: SJackson
Not that I think any states would endorse eating bikers.

No probably not. . .especially those; like our Prez; who, according to all vacation pics; prefers to ride a girls bike. . .

Difficult, actually, to imagine Obama on a 'real' man's bike; much less a motor cycle...No, the 'girl's bike'does work. . .but is low on appetite scale.

94 posted on 11/29/2011 6:08:52 PM PST by cricket
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To: SJackson
Millions of "play horses" in this country.

No forage, no feed due to drought.

Cheap-a$$ grass hay that was $4 a bale last year, now $12.

Can't feed 'em, can't sell 'em. The only thing some people can do is to turn them out or shoot them and let them rot where they fall.

The ones that get turned out often wind up coming through a windshield.

This may be the only thing Obama and his bunch have done with which I can agree.

95 posted on 11/29/2011 6:10:42 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: Yankee

Stop! Yer killin me.

I’ve had horse before, very much like steak.
Hey the way Obama has things going we’ll be lucky
to have dog.


96 posted on 11/29/2011 6:12:53 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Principle Over Politics

Horse has a finer grain, is more tender and a touch sweet.

Bison is coarser, can be tough and has a richer flavor than beef.

I like ‘em all.


97 posted on 11/29/2011 6:19:03 PM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: tet68

Young Barry enjoyed dog in many delicious dishes as a child in Indonesia. That’s why Bo peed on his leg, causing Bo to be sent to WV on permanent vaca.


98 posted on 11/29/2011 6:20:17 PM PST by GRANGER
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To: tet68

Young Barry enjoyed dog in many delicious dishes as a child in Indonesia. That’s why Bo peed on his leg, causing Bo to be sent to WV on permanent vaca.


99 posted on 11/29/2011 6:20:25 PM PST by GRANGER
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To: Psalm 144

Thanks!

I had a Bison burger years ago, I think it was in Buffalo Wyoming, and it was the best burger I have ever tasted.


100 posted on 11/29/2011 6:23:17 PM PST by Principle Over Politics (All rights are not created equal.)
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