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Posted on 11/30/2011 1:15:25 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
Republicans who don't want to vote for Mitt Romney had rallied behind the Atlanta businessman, but his campaign has been rocked by accusations of an affair. And the former House speaker has a marital track record of his own.
...Gingrich has vaulted into the top tier on the basis of his performance in televised debates, which have largely driven Republican voter preferences this year...
But an indication of discomfort in some quarters over Gingrich's rise came Tuesday when a new attack on the former House speaker surfaced online from a group calling itself Iowans for Christian Leaders in Government.
...."Newt is famous for being all over the board," Cary Gordon, an influential pastor from Sioux City, Iowa, told the Des Moines Register. "He is admirable in many ways, but I won't back him. I don't trust him."
Cain, for his part, told senior staff members in a Tuesday conference call that he was assessing whether the affair allegations "create too much of a cloud" for his campaign to continue.
.....Grubbs seemed bothered by a statement released Monday by Cain's attorney, Lin Wood, who said a candidate's "private sexual life" is not the business of the public or the media.
The tone of Wood's remarks also dismayed Richard Land, an evangelical leader who is president of the Southern Baptist Convention's Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission.
"What I read into it was, he wasn't denying the allegation, but it didn't involve sexual harassment so it didn't rise to the level of being discussable," Land said. "Mr. Cain is running as the family values candidate, and when you're the family values candidate, you better understand you are asking to be judged by a different standard."
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“YES WE CAIN!”
Amen, brother!
Neither the poster of this thread nor the ‘Lamestream’ media types who wrote this article can even being to understand the belief, hopes, hearts and minds of people who support a candidate like Cain.
Both have shown nothing but utter disdain for both Herman Cain and his supporters.
That said I suggest that the words of both should be given the weight they deserve which are worth about the same as those that fly across Bammy’s teleprompter.
I guess your remarks are also directed to the religious leaders quoted — which makes up the bulk of the article???
As for your slam at me, I find you (and the others who circulate in packs on FR) easy enough to spot — posters who can’t defend their candidate (or are only here to disrupt the GOP nominee selection) so you smear the messenger.
Thanks for proving my point. As far as religious leaders quoted most wouldn’t know Christ if he stood before them surrounded by the Twelve Apostles.
As far as me slamming you I was merely pointing out to those who would read the thread that you and the writers of the article have history of treating Herman Cain and his supporters with contempt and scorn and therefore they need to read your words with your disdain in mind.
Well, maybe in LA, but probably not in flyover country. Herman Cain having some strange ex-friends is no reason to abandon him as a possible candidate yet.
Is that right? Have I been on Herman Cain threads? I don't need you to lie about me. I do not slam Cain supporters. You are really giving posters a look into your heart.
I really don't get this position. No disrespect intended, but I really have a hard time understanding this. The biggest threat to America as we know it (as many have said in these forums) is the type of leadership our current President brings.
There is no doubt the establishment and MM are giving us the “polished turd” on a platter. We do have time to refuse it, and should do all we can during the primaries. However, once a candidate is chosen we need to jump into the battle and defeat the current threat together. Then we need to hold the Repubs to the fire, and if they bail on conservatism then we begin a new movement for a new party.
Choosing NOT to vote because our “perfect” candidate is not the nominee is to choose to stay out of the fight. If a RINO is selected as the nominee at least we can stall the demise of our nation as we work for a better solution.
Choosing NOT to vote IS a vote for our current President. Campaign now, vet now, struggle for your candidate, but in the end of this process our children owe it to us to stay in the fight. These are ONLY battles now, but the WAR is on the horizon and we need to continue staying in the fight. I cannot see the honor in giving up the fight just because. As many say on these forums it doesn't matter who wins because we are all doomed, that the barbarians are at the gates, maybe so, but stalling tactics have, in the past, proven effective to saving many who would have been lost. A vote for some of these candidates in the general election will NOT be preferrable but it will be a stalling tactic. It's like the movie "Braveheart" where the Scottish army is about to run away and Wallace says, "Aye, fight and you may die. Run , and you'll live... at least a while. And dying in your beds, many years from now, would you be willin' to trade ALL the days,from this day to that, for one chance, just one chance, to come back here and tell our enemies that they may take our lives, but they'll never take... OUR FREEDOM!" Let's not "RUN" away but into the fray and stay frosty!
It’s a sinking feeling of dread. I have it too.
I’ll take Perry over Gingrich, if it comes to that.
Well said, AF.
Problem for me with a Rino will be that I refuse to put the time and energy in that I usually do in presidential campaigns.
Donation directly to candidate? Either not at all or minimal.
And I predict that others will follow suit.
Watch the RNC contributions evaporate in ‘12 and they have only themselves to blame.
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Newt has profitted, richly, by being on every side of every issue. Even Jack Abramoff says he’s corrupt. And who would know better?
I've noticed that there is no mention of Perry in any news coverage. The reporters will mention Romney & Gingrich (both are establishment candidates) then Bachmann, Santorum & Paul (no money behind them). Cain gets mentioned but it is almost always with a reference to his declining status. It's as though they want to act like Perry doesn't exist.
From what I've seen polling is not going well for Perry either. We really need a good result in SC & FL. If not I'm worried we will end up with the inside the beltway candidate. Right now everyone seems to think Gingrich will beat obama easily but I see a lot of turn offs with him. His personal life. His success as a lobbyist/consultant. His spending big dollars on his wife. Physically he is heavy. His debate skills have been promoted so much one misstep and it will appear that obama bested him. Finally, he gives obama a target for his anti-DC campaign being an inside the beltway guy.
In the end this is my biggest concern with Newt.
The one issue that I won't compromise on is Pro-Life. Because of that Romney and Cain were eliminated early. If any of the other candidates were nominated I would vote for them over obama. Perry is by far the best conservative running. I can look at his record and reasonably expect that his administration would be conservative. Newt might be transformational, but into what?
Even Jack Abramoff says he’s corrupt. And who would know better?
I wouldn't trust what some low life criminal says.
Dump the alleged adulterer in order to support the admitted adulterer? Decisions, decisions...
Well there is always Ron Paul at least he is in double digits. Too bad he’s crazy on foreign policy, otherwise he is very good on issues.
I totally get that but (there's always a 'but', isn't there?) He's already done his term in prison so it's not like he's looking to get a reduced sentence or anything.
So true.
I have to admit, I've lost quite a bit of interest in the race now. The media has its share of blame, but the bigger disappointment (for me) is us. Too many of us flock behind the flavor of the month candidate. We lose perspective about who has the best proposals, the best record, integrity, focus, and commitment.
We focus too much on likeability, smarts, charisma, and style.
I've been behind one candidate since July. That hasn't changed. I can tell from reading this forum just about daily for 4-5 months that perhaps half the people here have shifted from one candidate to the next, some as many as 4 different candidates.
That's really indicting.
They keep churning out lies and garbage. Cain supporters are NOT considering AmNewtsty, period.
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