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Meeting with wife may be key to future of Cain bid
AJC/Ass Press ^ | December 1, 2011 | STEVE PEOPLES

Posted on 12/01/2011 4:31:42 AM PST by upchuck

He's plotting an aggressive campaign schedule across several states, but Herman Cain has begun to outline a possible exit strategy from the race for the Republican presidential nomination.

The former business executive, facing a woman's allegation of a 13-year extramarital affair, says a heavy emotional toll on his family — particularly his wife, Gloria, who he has not seen since the charge surfaced — could force him to call it quits. The shift comes as a growing chorus of would-be allies suggests he is no longer a viable presidential contender and Cain himself says fundraising has suffered.

Cain, a top-tier candidate just weeks ago, says he'll decide in the next "few days" whether to abandon his White House bid, but not before he meets with his wife.

"Since I've been campaigning all week, I haven't had an opportunity to sit down with her and walk through this with my wife and my family. I will do that when I get back home on Friday," Cain told reporters gathered at his New Hampshire campaign headquarters Wednesday night. "I am not going to make a decision until after we talk face to face."

Cain said he had spoken to his wife only by phone since Monday, the day an Atlanta television station reported the woman's accusation. Since then, aides have crafted a packed campaign schedule with stops in Ohio, New Hampshire, Tennessee, South Carolina and Georgia and prepared to launch a fresh round of TV ads in Iowa.

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To: PizzaTheHut

Did she say 13 yr, she meant 16 yr. Nice find! She’s a big fat liar.

Pray for Cain


51 posted on 12/01/2011 5:36:30 AM PST by bray (The Tea Party Occupies their Mind)
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To: Savage Beast
These thugs would be politically powerless if it were not for a complicit newsmedia and a brainless, gullible public.

Bears repeating.

52 posted on 12/01/2011 5:38:30 AM PST by Mygirlsmom (Disgusted with it all.)
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To: 1776 Reborn

In for a good ass whipping? Why is that? Because some woman “claimed” an affair and “claimed” documents which she refuses to show? Cain denied any sexual contact and said he helped this woman out financially over the years, something the woman herself admitted to in an interview last evening with Stehanopalib?

Win or lose Cain needs to stick by this denial if it is true and only he and the woman know if it is. She, like all the others haven’t a shred of evidence to back up anything they say and as far as Cain it is impossible for him to prove he did not have an affair since one cannot prove a negative.

Win or lose the primary he should stick it out until the very end and keep his head high and message clear. To quit the race will signal to many his absolute guilt and the media knows this. It will also encourage this same action by the sleazy media in the future, while a Cain refusal to buckle in the face of lies will be a lesson to others on whom this disgraceful tactic is used to stay the course and if innocent never quit.

My opinion is in the face of all of these allegations, not a one of which has produced a shred of proof to back them up, it is the media which is being hurt more then is Cain.


53 posted on 12/01/2011 5:39:17 AM PST by 101voodoo
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To: upchuck

Cain’s campaign is on death watch, but if Ginger White is the reason, it’s the wrong reason. Her unsubstantiated accusation says NOTHING about him. If any of his supporters abandon him because of that, it says a great deal about them.
The accusers and their enablers have manipulated the political process in an evil way.
If Cain is innocent (and he is fully entitled to the presumption of innocence) he should be suing for slander/libel, and fast.
Given that Ginger White has already been adjudged a libeler in one court, it should be a slam dunk.


54 posted on 12/01/2011 5:40:51 AM PST by Lady Lucky
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To: upchuck
..and the wonderful GOP consultants, strategists and general hacks who are taking this opportunity to show their support by putting an ice pick into Herman Cain

They would rather throw another election rather than change the status quo...

55 posted on 12/01/2011 5:41:27 AM PST by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: upchuck

56 posted on 12/01/2011 5:41:33 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Tennessee Nana
I doubt that Willard will have women coming forward to make allegations ______________________________________________ Why not ???

Oooh! Oooh! Let me answer this one!

Because Romney has been annointed by the MSM to be the GOP Candidate. : D

57 posted on 12/01/2011 5:43:14 AM PST by LoveUSA (God employs Man's strength; Satan exploits Man's weakness.)
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To: Travis McGee

You think Cain is toast?.....that surprises me from you.


58 posted on 12/01/2011 5:48:41 AM PST by Guenevere (....We press on.....)
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To: LoveUSA
Clinton “moved” on and he was guilty as Hell—why can't Cain who has no credible evidence against him do the same?

Clinton is an evil person, so is Hillary...it comes easy.
59 posted on 12/01/2011 5:49:31 AM PST by freebird5850 (Of course Obama loves his country...it's just that Cain loves mine!)
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To: Tennessee Nana

There hasn’t been a hint of other women in any of Romney’s previous campaigns, so that’s why I don’t think we’ll see any this time. That said, in no way do I want Romney. I just used him as an example of a boring, buttoned-up candidate.


60 posted on 12/01/2011 5:54:49 AM PST by CASchack
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To: Guenevere

The text messages are going to do him in. I believe Herman, who I greatly admire, is today planning the most graceful exit possible.


61 posted on 12/01/2011 5:55:40 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: CASchack
I know that the allegations appear to be questionable, but why is it that Cain is the only candidate who is being hit with these allegations?

They tell you who they fear the most (hint: it's whoever they see as the biggest threat to Bamster, at the time).

62 posted on 12/01/2011 5:57:02 AM PST by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: driftdiver

“At what point do you challenge the accusers instead of questioning the integrity of Cain?”

I’d say sue them for any future earned income, but I could just see the spin the msm would put on that-—how a good Christian man could do that to those poor disturbed women is SO mean and vindictive, blah, blah, blah.


63 posted on 12/01/2011 6:05:08 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

” If David Axelrod can gin up a scandal campaign like this out of his apartment building, no conservative is safe. And I thought this stuff didn’t matter anymore. “

You don’t care about any conservative. You’ve mouthed off about everyone...especially Perry. You guys just don’t know who to blame, do you? Axelrod. Weeks ago with the sexual harrassment crap, you blamed Perry even though the claims had been filed over a decade ago. Then there was Rove, Romney, the media, his critics, etc....not to mention the “sluts.”.
In the blame game, does the name Cain ever occur to you?

Whoever they may be, do you think their best ammo would be used up just to get him out of a primary race? As far as I’m concerned, this is all poetic justice, true or not, for all the disrespect and hate you have poured all over our other candidates. And yes, Virginia, somewhere in a lot of states in the nation, an illegal alien scholar is going to graduate from college having only paid in-state tuition. Twenty-five percent of those graduates will be Asian.


64 posted on 12/01/2011 6:10:07 AM PST by FryingPan101 (Perry/Palin)
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To: FryingPan101

Lima Mike Alpha, over.


65 posted on 12/01/2011 6:12:13 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: FryingPan101

Well played.


66 posted on 12/01/2011 6:16:47 AM PST by magritte
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To: cuban leaf
why is it that Cain is the only candidate who is being hit with these allegations?

If they can't attack the message, they'll attack the messenger.

67 posted on 12/01/2011 6:22:21 AM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord!)
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To: upchuck
RL Burnside has a blues song out called "It's bad you know".
One of the lyrics is "I just went on and told her"
Seems to fit here. . . . . .
He also has another song very fitting of the times. "Everything is Broken."
68 posted on 12/01/2011 6:24:00 AM PST by DeaconRed (My Hat Don't Hang on the same Nail to Long. I am a CAT adjuster.)
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To: driftdiver

This + 1000!


69 posted on 12/01/2011 6:26:56 AM PST by 728b (Never cry over something that can not cry over you.)
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To: driftdiver

What I want to know is...

This latest one has a child or children - how old?

Who was the father(s)?

Where was the child(ren) when she claims she was running around flying here and there with Herman? Seems whoever was babysitting would be able to collaborate her story if it was true.

Was she married?

And what about the rumor floating around the net that she was in fact a lesbian?

Too many questions are not being asked by the MSM and FOX - they don’t get personal enough with the accusers but instead drag Herman and his sweet wife thru hell reporting allegations without proof.

I’m waiting for the MSM & FOX to report on these accusers bank account balances and any new deposits made recently....

I know, I won’t hold my breath on that one.


70 posted on 12/01/2011 6:29:50 AM PST by Grumpybutt (When it gets too much, turn it all off and turn to God - for only HE has the real plan.)
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To: Lady Lucky
"already been adjudged a libeler in one court"

By default. She didn't bother to show up for court and lost by default.
Herman has a good (if there is such a thing) Attorney in Mr. Wood. He takes names and kicks butt. He will probably make her wish she was never born before it's all over. Plus she probably would miss court again and loose by default, again.

72 posted on 12/01/2011 6:30:14 AM PST by DeaconRed (My Hat Don't Hang on the same Nail to Long. I am a CAT adjuster.)
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To: Voter#537
By default. She didn't bother to show up for court and lost by default.

If you had a leg to stand on and hop downtown to court with, would YOU let yourself be adjudged guilty of libel?

73 posted on 12/01/2011 6:37:55 AM PST by Lady Lucky
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To: Ann Archy

When did dumbass Obama ever have a better command of foreign policy before usurping the presidency?


74 posted on 12/01/2011 6:38:17 AM PST by meatloaf (I've had it with recycling politicians in any way shape or form. Toss 'em out!)
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To: CASchack

Romney is still a useful idiot for the Democrats...

IF he was to be the GOP nominee the stories would be trotted out..

His continued membership in a sexist religion..

His fatal accident in France when a woman died..

His belief in an afterlife harem full of young willing concubines with him as the resideent sheikh..

Gloria Allred and her beevy of accusers..Any bimbo who wants some money..she found some for Herman Cain..she can also for Romney..

What makes you think that Romney of all people wouldnt get the same treatment ???


75 posted on 12/01/2011 6:45:16 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Dead Eye Lane

Why is that? Because he doesn’t play dirty?


76 posted on 12/01/2011 6:45:27 AM PST by meatloaf (I've had it with recycling politicians in any way shape or form. Toss 'em out!)
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To: CASchack
I know that the allegations appear to be questionable, but why is it that Cain is the only candidate who is being hit with these allegations?

My take....the black vote. The subliminal message is that Herman Cain does not just cheat on his wife, he cheats with white women.

I am not painting with a broad brush, I am talking about a particular segment of the black community. If Obama loses that voting block, he is toast.

77 posted on 12/01/2011 6:46:26 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: CASchack
but why is it that Cain is the only candidate who is being hit with these allegations?

One at a time, once they're done with them, they'll move on to Newt....and then onto Perry.....until Romney is the only one standing, and then after he get nominated, they'll move onto him, as well. When they came for Herman Cain, I did nothing because I wasn't a Cain Supporter.....

78 posted on 12/01/2011 6:48:59 AM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: samtheman

We’ll have to disagree on that. I look at the 999 plan as a start. The CBO hasn’t looked at it. As a businessman and President, Cain will reassess, adjust and move on.


79 posted on 12/01/2011 6:54:12 AM PST by meatloaf (I've had it with recycling politicians in any way shape or form. Toss 'em out!)
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To: CASchack
I keep hearing how good Herman Cain is at picking good people. If we just compare Obama's campaign people to Cain's, I wouldn't agree with you. Obama had that smarmy Axelrod to make things happen, as well as Plouffe. The people Cain had in place to deal with the allegations (at least initially) and his foreign policy gaffes were not up to the task of dealing with the media and changing the discussion.

Herman Caine has a long history of assembling successful teams to accomplish difficult missions. I would be willing to trust that his team will improve with time and with an increase in support on the national level.

Barack Obama has no history at all of solving problems other than winning two political elections and those seem to have been done on the backs of some expert teams that were assembled by folks who wanted Obama to carry their water.

80 posted on 12/01/2011 6:58:21 AM PST by tentmaker
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To: samtheman; meatloaf
I contend that in a hypothetical debate between the TOTUS and Herman Cain, that Cain would in fact be another James 'Buster' Douglas (if one could possibly picture 0bama as being (har har) 'Mike Tyson'), it was during the Clinton years that Cain took Billigula to the cleaners during a public discussion on health care, and the universal consensus is that he cleaned Clinton's clock, and he did it with facts.

There is another reason why Herman Cain may in fact be the ONLY candidate that should be nominated by the GOP, and here is why:

Let's presume that Herman Cain is run out of the race, or fails to win the nomination come convention time, here is what you can expect from the 'Rats in the Fall 2012 campaign:

"Herman Cain ran for the Republican nomination for President, but those rich white boys sent him to the back of the bus, just like they want to do with YOU!"[targeted at the black electorate]

But let's assume that whoever the RINO is that gets nominated chooses Herman Cain as their running mate for VP?

Then the 'Rat attack goes like this:

"The Republicans want you (black voters) to vote for a ticket where the black man isn't GOOD enough to be at the head of the ticket, he's standing to the side, letting whitey run the campaign, vote Democrat, we already CHOSE and ELECTED a black man as President!"

See how that works? Who do you think it is that is terrified of Herman Cain? It is the LIBERAL/LEFT establishment, the 'Rat Party, their radical enablers and supporters throughout the lamestream media, why would they be in such a lather about Herman Cain? Do you see these kinds of attacks directed at Mitt-Witt, Newt, etc?

They (and the 0bama regime) are terrified of Herman Cain because Cain cannot and will not be controlled, and has the potential to begin a Moses-like exodus of his fellow black Americans from the 'Rat party plantation, and in the 'Rat view of the world, THAT must be prevented at all costs.
81 posted on 12/01/2011 6:58:47 AM PST by mkjessup (I stand with Herman Cain!!)
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To: mkjessup

It seems like you are saying that “we have to nominate a black candidate once we have a black candidate, otherwise we will be labeled as racists”.

Are you really saying that?


82 posted on 12/01/2011 7:05:21 AM PST by samtheman
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To: CASchack

“The people Cain had in place to deal with the allegations(at least initially) and his foreign policy gaffes were not up to the task of dealing with the media and changing the discussion.”

I absolutely agree, CASchack. He was in trouble out of the gate due to the ineptness of his handlers. I met some of them at a fundraiser in Green Bay...nice, young, good looking “kids” who meant well but didn’t have enough experience.
And how hard is it to get a foreign policy expert to brief Cain and drill him day in and day out while on the campaign trail on his bus?


83 posted on 12/01/2011 7:06:00 AM PST by Mountain Mary (One Nation Under God...There I said it.)
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To: meatloaf

You are right. 999 is a start.

It’s already changed.

What is it now?

909?
333?

I’ve lost track.


84 posted on 12/01/2011 7:07:13 AM PST by samtheman
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To: mkjessup

Cain cannot and will not be controlled,
______________________________________________

One of the reasons I dont believe he has molested, or sexually propositioned any women or had an affair..

Herman Cain is too disciplined and in control of himself to be the type to give in to temptation ..


85 posted on 12/01/2011 7:08:42 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: HamiltonJay

Agree HamiltonJay. I’ve been attacked on other threads for saying same.
Bottom line is that we are hungry for a candidate who we can support and some of us thought Cain was that guy.

And he has proven that he isn’t up to the task. Better now than if he had become our nominee.

Interesting that many of my family and friends didn’t know who Cain was...and still don’t.

If he survives this latest scandal, he can be useful going forward to raise funds for other Conservatives, including the GOP nominee for POTUS.
Maybe he’ll even have a speaking gig at the convention. Hope so!


86 posted on 12/01/2011 7:12:48 AM PST by Mountain Mary (One Nation Under God...There I said it.)
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To: Reagan69
I'm not sure it's the Dems. There are a lot of Republicans who have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo. They have already picked our candidate and they will stop at nothing to protect and promote that candidate.

On the other hand, I would not be surprised if this is a joint effort by members of both parties. And the media, including Fox,, are accomplices.

87 posted on 12/01/2011 7:15:34 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: mkjessup

I agree with how the attack will play out if cain isn’t nominated.

“They (and the 0bama regime) are terrified of Herman Cain because Cain cannot and will not be controlled, and has the potential to begin a Moses-like exodus of his fellow black Americans from the ‘Rat party plantation, and in the ‘Rat view of the world, THAT must be prevented at all costs.”

That’s one of the prime reasons Cain needs to be the GOP nominee. The GOP has the opportunity to divide the Black vote and deprive the Democrats of a part of their most loyal voters. Currently the GOP just wants the power no matter what the costs or the effects on America as a republic.


88 posted on 12/01/2011 7:17:43 AM PST by meatloaf (I've had it with recycling politicians in any way shape or form. Toss 'em out!)
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To: All

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2814614/posts

Cain’s accuser is a lesbian. Her ex says the accuser never mentioned Cain.


89 posted on 12/01/2011 7:23:17 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

Oh, come on. That’s like saying that a married man never told his wife about having a girlfriend on the side.


90 posted on 12/01/2011 7:27:32 AM PST by CASchack
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To: cuban leaf

Sadly, we continue to allow the major parties to pick our leaders for us. We the People just don’t count anymore.


91 posted on 12/01/2011 7:30:59 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: CASchack

Ahh so you’ll trust the word of a proven low life.

good to know


92 posted on 12/01/2011 7:31:12 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Travis McGee

Then why is there a thread on FR stating that Cain’s attorney is requesting to see the phone records of this woman?


93 posted on 12/01/2011 7:45:08 AM PST by Guenevere (....We press on.....)
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To: Lady Lucky
If one had any brain at all they would show up for a court date. Loosing by default is STUPID STUPID STUPID.
It can't be appealed Nothing can be done except pay up and weep.
94 posted on 12/01/2011 7:57:04 AM PST by DeaconRed (My Hat Don't Hang on the same Nail to Long. I am a CAT adjuster.)
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To: samtheman
It seems like you are saying that “we have to nominate a black candidate once we have a black candidate, otherwise we will be labeled as racists”.
Are you really saying that?


I'm saying that we ALL have to recognize that if for some reason Herman Cain is NOT the nominee, nor on the ticket as VP candidate, that the 'Rats will use that like a sledgehammer. They will do a 180 degree turn and the Herman Cain who today is an 'Uncle Tom', a 'Step n' Fetchit', etc., will be immediately transformed into the second coming of Martin Luther King, just you wait and see.
95 posted on 12/01/2011 8:15:14 AM PST by mkjessup (I stand with Herman Cain!!)
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To: CASchack

Cain is the only one BECAUSE the liberal left and the moderate right have ‘race’ issues. They actually believe the stereotypes that have been propagated in the past about the voracious sexual appetite of the dak skinned races. Cain is a huge threat to them much more so than any ‘white’ guy or gal


96 posted on 12/01/2011 8:17:47 AM PST by Nifster
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To: mkjessup

So what that MEANS is, in effect, that now that ONE of our candidates is black, then we MUST choose him because if we don’t then the “rats will use that like a sledgehammer”.

So once we have ANY black candidate then we have NO OTHER CANDIDATES, by your reasoning.

That is so far beyond simple Affirmative Action that I think you’re on the verge of a brand new principle: Affirmative PreDestination.

No thanks.

I think I’ll stick with picking candidates the old fashioned way: evaluating each one as an individual.

But have at it. You might actually get famous for being the first one to come up with this if it catches on.

It is a novel idea. Just don’t sign me up.


97 posted on 12/01/2011 8:21:08 AM PST by samtheman
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To: samtheman
Don't misread what I'm saying here. I am not at all advocating that we MUST nominate Herman Cain because he is black, far from it. I'm saying that BECAUSE Herman Cain is black (and especially because he IS conservative), we have to be mindful of the sorts of attacks that will be launched at the Republican Party IF he is not the nominee, nor on the ticket. Nothing more and nothing less.

For example, if Colin Powell had ended up as the nominee in '96 or even 2000 as VP to GWB, there would not have been any sort of furor because his liberal RINO credentials were already pretty much in order, so far as the lamestream media was concerned.
98 posted on 12/01/2011 8:30:08 AM PST by mkjessup (I stand with Herman Cain!!)
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To: mkjessup
Don't misread what I'm saying here. I am not at all advocating that we MUST nominate Herman Cain because he is black, far from it. I'm saying that BECAUSE Herman Cain is black (and especially because he IS conservative), we have to be mindful of the sorts of attacks that will be launched at the Republican Party IF he is not the nominee, nor on the ticket. Nothing more and nothing less.
I understand the distinction and to a certain extent I agree with it. All things being equal, I would choose the black conservative over the white conservative in a primary contest.

But the key thing is "all things being equal".

No 2 human beings are ever "equal".

So there are a lot of factors that go into the choice and only one of them (and not in the top 5, in my opinion) is "the race of the conservative candidate".

99 posted on 12/01/2011 8:54:35 AM PST by samtheman
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To: upchuck

IMO, as long as the Cains have been married, his wife knows if he had a 13-year affair. She KNOWS. As vindictive as Ginger White appears to be, if nothing else, she would have made sure of it just to cause problems. If these allegations are lies, Gloria will insist that Cain stand and fight to the end. If they are even somewhat true, no doubt, they will realize that there is no real defense and he will bow out, maybe not until after Iowa, but he will drop out.


100 posted on 12/01/2011 9:11:32 AM PST by Proudcongal
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