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Cain: Wife didn't know about friendship, ‘financial assistance' to Ginger White
Union-Leader ^ | 12-1-2011 | John DiStaso

Posted on 12/01/2011 1:58:15 PM PST by smoothsailing

Cain: Wife didn't know about friendship, ‘financial assistance' to Ginger White


Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain is questioned by New Hampshire Union Leader publisher Joe McQuaid in Manchester Thursday. David Lane
MANCHESTER - In his most candid interview since the latest allegations emerged, Herman Cain adamantly maintains that he and Ginger White were no more than friends. He told the New Hampshire Union Leader that in about 70 text messages she sent him between Oct. 22 and Nov. 18, she was "asking for financial assistance. She was out of work and had trouble paying her bills and I had known her as a friend."
By JOHN DiSTASO
Senior Political Reporter
MANCHESTER - Herman Cain acknowledged Thursday that he repeatedly gave Ginger White money to help her with "month-to-month bills and expenses" without telling his wife.

In fact, the embattled presidential candidate said, his wife, Gloria, "did not know that we were friends until she (White) came out with this story."

In his most candid interview since the latest allegations emerged, Cain adamantly maintained that he and White were no more than friends.

He told the New Hampshire Union Leader that in about 70 text messages she sent him between Oct. 22 and Nov. 18, she was "asking for financial assistance. She was out of work and had trouble paying her bills and I had known her as a friend.

"She wasn't the only friend who I had helped in these tough economic times, and so her messages to me were relating to ‘need money for rent' or whatever the case may be. I don't remember all the specifics."

Cain said White, who has alleged that she and Cain had a 13-year extramarital affair, told him that she did not have a job and was unable to get financial help from her family, "and that quite frankly, I was the only person who was a friend at the time - and I underscore ‘friend' - that was in a position to help her.


"I'm a soft-hearted person when it comes to that stuff. I have helped members of my church. I have helped members of my family.


"And I know a lot of other people who had done the same thing, and sometimes, quite frankly, it was desperation," Cain said.


Cain said that in 17 reported text messages back to her, he would respond with messages such as, "What are you doing to get a job?"


Cain said he did give Ginger White money, although he would not say how much on the advice of counsel.


And, he acknowledged, "My wife did not know about it, and that was the revelation. My wife found out about it when she went public with it.


"My wife now knows," Cain said. "My wife and I have talked about it and I have explained it to her. My wife understands that I'm a soft-hearted giving person."


He said his wife "is comfortable with the explanation that I told her."


He said he told his wife about White only after White went public.


Cain said that in retrospect he should have told his wife about his friendship with White, "but retrospect doesn't necessarily change what's going on now."


He also said his wife "did not know we were friends until she (White) came out with this story."


He said White did not threaten to go public with the allegation of an affair if Cain did not give her money, "nor was there any indication that there might be blackmail or anything like that.


"I thought I was helping a friend, end of story," he said.


Cain said the two "struck up a friendship" many years ago when she attended a conference in Louisville, Ky., where he was the keynote speaker.


Cain said he does not know why White has gone public with the allegation.


"But I have very strong speculation that someone offered her a lot of money," Cain said. "I was helping her with month-to-month bills and expenses and somebody _ this is speculation only _ offered her a lot of money.


"And one of my objectives is to clear my name and my reputation," Cain said.


(This story will be updated throughout the evening.)


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New Hampshire
KEYWORDS: cain; cainaffair; cainswife; gingerwhite; gloriacain; hermancain
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To: sodpoodle

Cain isn’t the only one that is Naive.


101 posted on 12/01/2011 2:50:49 PM PST by Venturer
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

I wonder how his “reassessment” is going.


102 posted on 12/01/2011 2:50:56 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~.. Newt/Palin-West-2012."got a lot swirling around in my head.")
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To: mick

Fair point. I’m 20 years his junior. Maybe it’s a generational thing. But it’s all a moot point now. The damage has been done. And if it was all completely innocent and this has been a character assassination, I’m sorry for HC.


103 posted on 12/01/2011 2:51:17 PM PST by ktupper
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To: circlecity

>> Yeah. I’m thinking there were lots of $500 payments - always following a couple hours time with Ginger.

It’s possible that’s why, in 13 years of financial aid, she could never get back on her feet... cause whenever Herman came calling, there she was on her back again. :-)


104 posted on 12/01/2011 2:52:21 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: ktupper

I don’t. He brought this on himself and its better we find this out now. Imagine he got the nomination and this all came out a few weeks before the GE?


105 posted on 12/01/2011 2:53:12 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Ms White is interviewing Stephanopolis very soon and should hit the big time. You can also be guaranteed that this admission will also accompany the interview.

So much for Cain’s attack dog attorney shutting this one down.....


106 posted on 12/01/2011 2:54:46 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: Secret Agent Man

My husband would never give any person money on a monthly basis without telling me.

Sure, he’d give a cup of coffee to a homeless guy, or give $25 to United Way (ugh) at work.

But not sending her regular stipends over several months, as seems to be the case here.

Now, we are not millionaires. Maybe their marriage is different. But it doesn’t seem normal to me.


107 posted on 12/01/2011 2:55:46 PM PST by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: GloriaJane

—Cain is now down to 6% in Florida. It is 50% Gingrich, 19% Romney, 6% Cain.—

Well, it seems like that just isn’t a fear he needs to have.


108 posted on 12/01/2011 2:56:28 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~.. Newt/Palin-West-2012."got a lot swirling around in my head.")
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To: GlockThe Vote

Don’t go there, one John Edwards is enough.....


109 posted on 12/01/2011 2:57:07 PM PST by sunmars
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To: Gator113

“Reassessment” Code word for “How can we turn this one around into several million more in donations?


110 posted on 12/01/2011 2:57:16 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: SatinDoll
"No good deed goes unpunished."

No it doesn't . Cain told Cavuto he had helped many people with grocery and rent money. I doubt he told his wife about each and every one.

111 posted on 12/01/2011 2:57:29 PM PST by moehoward
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To: Nervous Tick

Or maybe Herman has a heart and decided to take care of someone less fortunate. You know, like Christian person would do.


112 posted on 12/01/2011 2:58:10 PM PST by TBall
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To: GlockThe Vote

It’s been reported that White has one child. I wonder how old the child is??


113 posted on 12/01/2011 2:58:49 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~.. Newt/Palin-West-2012."got a lot swirling around in my head.")
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To: smoothsailing

I was putting fuel in my truck the other day and some young lady came up and said she had run out of gas and needed some fuel, I gave her a few bucks, but we did not have sex on the fuel island. Guess I must be some sort of pervert.


114 posted on 12/01/2011 2:59:01 PM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Newt, Willard, Perry and his fellow supporters.)
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To: moehoward

Bridge for sale.........


115 posted on 12/01/2011 2:59:52 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: mick

You’re missing the point. On purpose - I believe.

FTA: Cain said that in retrospect he should have told his wife about his friendship with White, “but retrospect doesn’t necessarily change what’s going on now.”

Cain KNEW he shoulda told the missues. Scratch that. Cain KNEW he shoulda never had that sorty of “friendship” in the first place.

I understand what you are saying about being generous and giving money only to have it backfire. I do. Been there - done that. But using Cain’s own words here....

In “retrospect”... he shoulda not done it.


116 posted on 12/01/2011 2:59:58 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: TBall

Did he text all those people at 4am as well over 13 years?


117 posted on 12/01/2011 3:00:37 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: Tennessee Nana
“Herman Cain is a multi millionaire

If he gave a person in need a $20 or even a $100 I doubt if he would miss it or think he had to report it to Momma...

Mrs Cain probably gives money here and there to good causes to that Herman doesnt demand to know about..

Its called trust...

He knows Gloria wont give money to Planned Parenthood behind his back..

She trusts him to not be sponsoring “girlfriends””

I would never give $20 to anyone (other than our daughter) without mrs riverdawg’s knowledge. We can certainly afford to give money to help people, and we do, but we keep each other informed about such transfers and almost always discuss them in advance.

It's called a marriage ...

118 posted on 12/01/2011 3:00:52 PM PST by riverdawg
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

$$$$


119 posted on 12/01/2011 3:01:03 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~.. Newt/Palin-West-2012."got a lot swirling around in my head.")
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To: writer33

The crime is the stupidity! What stupidity I suppose depends on how enamered one is with “their” candidate.

Sounds like the stupidity was that any of all this was never going to surface.

Even Ron Paul has some really great ideas, but he sure as heck ain’t going to get the nom, same here.

Hope the next Pres, makes him Fed Chairman or something similar, but far as GOP Nom, that train has left the station.


120 posted on 12/01/2011 3:01:17 PM PST by X-spurt
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To: mick
I agree Mick. I guess I'm another old school guy too. Alot of folks are being awfully pretentious here in their judgments.
121 posted on 12/01/2011 3:01:29 PM PST by 07Jack
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To: sunmars

At this point i would not be surprised if a porn film surfaces with Herm in it.


122 posted on 12/01/2011 3:01:38 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: org.whodat

“I was putting fuel in my truck the other day and some young lady came up and said she had run out of gas and need some fuel, I gave her a few bucks, but we did not have sex on the fuel island. Guess I must be some sort of pervert.”

Not a good analogy. She remained a stranger to you, there wasn’t ongoing communication, it was done in public, it was a one time thing.


123 posted on 12/01/2011 3:01:43 PM PST by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: jessduntno; Gator113; Beagle8U

“Brace yourself for the incoming flood of apologies and “gee, maybe you were right” notes.”

First of all, my apologies to any and all who may have thought I questioned their veracity or integrity.

I was one who argued forcefully on Herman’s behalf on this and other matters of contention. Until this article, I had seen nothing verifiable that indicated whether Mr Cain’s wife knew or not. In fact there were statements attributed to Cain’s campaign staff posted on FR which indicated his wife and family did know. It is my nature to believe in the honor of a candidate I back unless something proves that this is not the case. Having said that I must admit I am disappointed in Mr Cain and will have to reconsider my support for him.


124 posted on 12/01/2011 3:02:06 PM PST by Ozymandias Ghost
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To: jessduntno
Brace yourself for the incoming flood of apologies and “gee, maybe you were right” notes.
 
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125 posted on 12/01/2011 3:02:53 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: mick
And sometimes I told my wife and sometimes I didn’t....for no other reason that I forgot about it. it isn’t what our life was about. And sometimes the person in question would call my home and then I would have to talk about it...until she would just tell me to stop being such a soft touch...even if it was a younger woman.....end of story. But then my wife is a grown up, like Cain’s wife, from a different generation, I guess.

If you imagine that for a wife, being "grown up" means not expecting your husband to be accountable for his actions, you are sorely mistaken. Quite the contrary: having an "adult" and "mature" marriage relationship means that both spouses are accountable to each other - and are able to trust each other because they are "transparent" with each other.

The fact that you have not been "transparent" with your wife regarding giving money to "younger women" is certainly nothing to boast about, and may have hurt her more than you realize.

it isn't what our life was about...

I suspect the truth is that it isn't what YOUR life was about. Though you offer it as some kind of justification for Cain's actions (as well as your own), the truth is that we cause hurt and disappointment if we do not "honor" our spouse by being "transparent" in all that we do.

[Flame away - but what would be really interesting would be for you to run what I've said by your wife and include her response in your reply]

126 posted on 12/01/2011 3:03:34 PM PST by tjd1454
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To: GlockThe Vote

No he died many years before the text, but he was from Memphis.


127 posted on 12/01/2011 3:04:48 PM PST by TBall
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To: Responsibility2nd

You said, “Busted. I don’t care how “innocent” the situation is. If your wife ain’t in the loop on something like this....”

Let me finish that thought for you, you know she wouldn’t like it or approve and you have reason for her not to know about it because you may just be expecting something other than thank you and want to keep that option open on the side.

Bad news for Herman, good news for us to find out sooner than later.

And he never considered this a problem lurking in the wings?

Life is tough, it is tougher when you are stupid.


128 posted on 12/01/2011 3:06:08 PM PST by Sequoyah101 (Half the people are below average.)
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To: Ozymandias Ghost

Changing your support for Mr Cain was never our intent. Looking at the reality of who and what Cain was from the start is what seemed to escape so many who support him so blindly. And they sent him money. Lots of it, based on not much at all. Really!.......Not much at all, from the start.


129 posted on 12/01/2011 3:06:38 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: TBall

I just am thankful this is all coming out now rather than later.

Another electoral disaster averted. Herman Cain is a real idiot to have run knowing this was all out there and not telling his wife beforehand.


130 posted on 12/01/2011 3:06:48 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: GlockThe Vote

LOL..Good one there.
I’m a Cain supporter but I have to admit that made me laugh.


131 posted on 12/01/2011 3:07:28 PM PST by 07Jack
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To: 07Jack

I am A B O I like Cain, but these things are a disaster in our quest to defeat obama.


132 posted on 12/01/2011 3:09:41 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: Persevero; org.whodat
“I was putting fuel in my truck the other day and some young lady came up and said she had run out of gas and need some fuel, I gave her a few bucks, but we did not have sex on the fuel island. Guess I must be some sort of pervert.”

Not a good analogy. She remained a stranger to you, there wasn’t ongoing communication, it was done in public, it was a one time thing.

Excellent rejoinder. I am frankly amazed to see how people can refuse to admit the obvious in their determination to make light of indiscrete behavior.

133 posted on 12/01/2011 3:10:29 PM PST by tjd1454
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To: GlockThe Vote
No scary movies either, not during the Christmas season.
134 posted on 12/01/2011 3:12:00 PM PST by Esther Ruth
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To: HereInTheHeartland

“At best he’s a moron”

Yep. So far it looks to be the whole ‘13-year affair’ thing is falling by the wayside, as Ms. White can’t seem to verify any of that stuff. Seems like the typical pattern of all the other ladies - make outrageous claims to get the headline and no following proof.

What she only seems to have is phone records from this fall, unless I’m confused about the timeline, that mostly looks like she was initiating and he responding. It makes this really smell like a setup.

Point is he fell for it. Didn’t tell his wife. Cavalier in the middle of a Presidential campaign where he is the frontrunner. Not thinking of the consequences of his actions.

That’s as bothersome as if he actually did something, which I’m not sure he did. I truly don’t get it.


135 posted on 12/01/2011 3:12:56 PM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
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To: Sequoyah101

You finished my thought perfectly.

Now. If this was a one time gift - no problem. But if this acquaintance developed into a friendship and more money was given over 13 years...

That is a problem. As the whole world now sees.


136 posted on 12/01/2011 3:12:56 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: GlockThe Vote
If Cain was squeaky clean he would not be able to get past the machine. I hate the media.
137 posted on 12/01/2011 3:14:58 PM PST by TBall
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To: wolfman23601

I disagree. Cain is a very wealthy man. If I was giving an amount that would put a dent in our checking account (like help with rent), I’d have to explain myself. But peeling off a couple of bills off a roll of 100’s isnt much of a big deal to a millionaire. If I was a rich person I’d love to be able to give very large tips to service people and such, so long as it didn’t have a real effect on my finances.


138 posted on 12/01/2011 3:15:19 PM PST by jdub (A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government.)
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To: smoothsailing

Burnt toast


139 posted on 12/01/2011 3:17:24 PM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) No RINO's)
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To: GloriaJane

I agree...you can tell that all these ‘women’ who have come forward on this type of slime, is what it is....PHONY!!!!!

I believe in Herman Cain, I hope he doesn’t quit....Billy Boy Clinton did FARRRRRR worse!!!


140 posted on 12/01/2011 3:19:36 PM PST by HarleyLady27 (How's that change treatin ya now?)
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To: CajunConservative
Let's see, Ginger is no spring chicken. I think she's 46 or thereabouts. 13 years ago she'd been 33.

A wealthy man with a position of responsibility should have been able to get a goodly number of twenty-somethings lined up at his door.

So what was this old gal's hook?

141 posted on 12/01/2011 3:20:04 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: HarleyLady27

Come on - don’t be a dope. Cain is done - this is insanely dumb on his part.


142 posted on 12/01/2011 3:20:33 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: Free Vulcan
At the time wasn't he being distracted by the two other women?

You know this is being worked through somebody's library of sexual fantasies ~ first, the unnamed sin, but the woman was "bothered by it" ~ made her feel "uncomfortable". Then the furtive grope in a no parking zone near one of Washington DCs busiest intersections Now, the "13 year affair".

Yet, all the complainants have legal problems, or they are serial sexual harrassment complainers.

It's pretty clear somebody is using these women ~ but that first one from INS? She's the one with a Clinton connection. So maybe it's somebody Obama believes to be in his camp who is actually doing this on behalf of Hillary.

David Axelrod is my candidate ~ and that's because of his ever increasingly complex and overtly sexual innuendo.

Next, "rape" rape!

143 posted on 12/01/2011 3:25:34 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: GlockThe Vote
I was sexually harrassed by Hillary Clinton shortly after she and Bill married.
144 posted on 12/01/2011 3:27:01 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Maybe she outperformed her looks?


145 posted on 12/01/2011 3:27:21 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: smoothsailing
You’re kidding, right?

Did Herman Cain commit a crime? I'm not talking about poor judgement. I'm talking about a crime.

146 posted on 12/01/2011 3:29:14 PM PST by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: GlockThe Vote

I,for one, was giving Herman the benefit of the doubt. I still want proof, but, his latest statement makes me very angry. If I were his wife, I’d be furious. Apparently, she stayed home taking care of the home and kids and he was out gallivanting while CEO - having dinner and drinks with other women. Gloria isn’t well enough or doesn’t even want to campaign with and for him. Possibly, Herman was lonely on the trail while CEO, and had women companions to fill the gap, and he flashed that million-dollar smile and money their way. Bad mistake and totally naive, as far as I’m concerned.

I think he’s done, sad to say. and I’m still giving him the benefit of the doubt about having an “affair.”


147 posted on 12/01/2011 3:31:05 PM PST by Catsrus
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To: smoothsailing
Herman Cain acknowledged Thursday that he repeatedly gave Ginger White money to help her with "month-to-month bills and expenses" without telling his wife.

In fact, the embattled presidential candidate said, his wife, Gloria, "did not know that we were friends until she (White) came out with this story."

It does not matter WHAT the relationship was, Cain is done with this revelation.

Game over!

148 posted on 12/01/2011 3:32:24 PM PST by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free)
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To: sirchtruth

Didnt you get the memo - obama is pissing himself scared over Cain.


149 posted on 12/01/2011 3:36:38 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: Tennessee Nana

and george did it once. not over and over and over again over more than a decade.


150 posted on 12/01/2011 3:43:14 PM PST by annelizly
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