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Cain: Wife didn't know about friendship, ‘financial assistance' to Ginger White
Union-Leader ^ | 12-1-2011 | John DiStaso

Posted on 12/01/2011 1:58:15 PM PST by smoothsailing

Cain: Wife didn't know about friendship, ‘financial assistance' to Ginger White


Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain is questioned by New Hampshire Union Leader publisher Joe McQuaid in Manchester Thursday. David Lane
MANCHESTER - In his most candid interview since the latest allegations emerged, Herman Cain adamantly maintains that he and Ginger White were no more than friends. He told the New Hampshire Union Leader that in about 70 text messages she sent him between Oct. 22 and Nov. 18, she was "asking for financial assistance. She was out of work and had trouble paying her bills and I had known her as a friend."
By JOHN DiSTASO
Senior Political Reporter
MANCHESTER - Herman Cain acknowledged Thursday that he repeatedly gave Ginger White money to help her with "month-to-month bills and expenses" without telling his wife.

In fact, the embattled presidential candidate said, his wife, Gloria, "did not know that we were friends until she (White) came out with this story."

In his most candid interview since the latest allegations emerged, Cain adamantly maintained that he and White were no more than friends.

He told the New Hampshire Union Leader that in about 70 text messages she sent him between Oct. 22 and Nov. 18, she was "asking for financial assistance. She was out of work and had trouble paying her bills and I had known her as a friend.

"She wasn't the only friend who I had helped in these tough economic times, and so her messages to me were relating to ‘need money for rent' or whatever the case may be. I don't remember all the specifics."

Cain said White, who has alleged that she and Cain had a 13-year extramarital affair, told him that she did not have a job and was unable to get financial help from her family, "and that quite frankly, I was the only person who was a friend at the time - and I underscore ‘friend' - that was in a position to help her.


"I'm a soft-hearted person when it comes to that stuff. I have helped members of my church. I have helped members of my family.


"And I know a lot of other people who had done the same thing, and sometimes, quite frankly, it was desperation," Cain said.


Cain said that in 17 reported text messages back to her, he would respond with messages such as, "What are you doing to get a job?"


Cain said he did give Ginger White money, although he would not say how much on the advice of counsel.


And, he acknowledged, "My wife did not know about it, and that was the revelation. My wife found out about it when she went public with it.


"My wife now knows," Cain said. "My wife and I have talked about it and I have explained it to her. My wife understands that I'm a soft-hearted giving person."


He said his wife "is comfortable with the explanation that I told her."


He said he told his wife about White only after White went public.


Cain said that in retrospect he should have told his wife about his friendship with White, "but retrospect doesn't necessarily change what's going on now."


He also said his wife "did not know we were friends until she (White) came out with this story."


He said White did not threaten to go public with the allegation of an affair if Cain did not give her money, "nor was there any indication that there might be blackmail or anything like that.


"I thought I was helping a friend, end of story," he said.


Cain said the two "struck up a friendship" many years ago when she attended a conference in Louisville, Ky., where he was the keynote speaker.


Cain said he does not know why White has gone public with the allegation.


"But I have very strong speculation that someone offered her a lot of money," Cain said. "I was helping her with month-to-month bills and expenses and somebody _ this is speculation only _ offered her a lot of money.


"And one of my objectives is to clear my name and my reputation," Cain said.


(This story will be updated throughout the evening.)


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New Hampshire
KEYWORDS: cain; cainaffair; cainswife; gingerwhite; gloriacain; hermancain
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To: GloriaJane
I'd say she has a blue dress hidden away. He's being cautious becaue he knows the possibilities.

He'll be gone before the end of the week. His attorneys will tell him to quit....and his money is drying up.

Obama was oh so hoping he would get the nomination. All his Dem loyalists and the 95% black vote would stay with Obama.

51 posted on 12/01/2011 2:21:48 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

Not telling his wife is not a good thing.

There still is a big difference between this and a sexual affair. My only point is that if this is what the woman says publicly and it’s not true, then Cain’s lawyer needs to go after her big time.

If this happens, he, IMHO, can stay in. If he leaves it as it is, I think he’s out, slowly or quickly, but out.


52 posted on 12/01/2011 2:21:59 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: smoothsailing

Buh bye...convicted by the MSM and in the court of public opinion.


53 posted on 12/01/2011 2:21:59 PM PST by ZippyTheGreat (The Revolution is in progress!)
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To: smoothsailing

Buh bye...convicted by the MSM and in the court of public opinion.


54 posted on 12/01/2011 2:22:17 PM PST by ZippyTheGreat (The Revolution is in progress!)
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To: smoothsailing

Cain has blown his opportunity. None of these allegations are important except for his steadfast denials. He should have just indicated that he made mistakes or misunderstandings in each case. He could have moved on without going to war in each case. The idea that he gave this woman money over the years just as a good soul does not pass the laugh test. I do not care if he did have an affair. I do not like dishonesty however.


55 posted on 12/01/2011 2:22:24 PM PST by businessprofessor
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To: smoothsailing
He said his wife "is comfortable with the explanation that I told her."

Riiiiiiight!

56 posted on 12/01/2011 2:23:04 PM PST by windsorknot
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To: writer33

You’re kidding, right?


57 posted on 12/01/2011 2:23:17 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: Tennessee Nana

Bridge for sale........


58 posted on 12/01/2011 2:23:26 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: mick

Give me a break. A man in Cain’s position couldn’t possibly tell his wife every person he’s befriended.

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BS. You don’t think that sometime in this 13 year friendship the name “Ginger White” would not have surfaced in the Cain household?

Come on. I KNOW you’re not that naive.


59 posted on 12/01/2011 2:23:26 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: GlockThe Vote

And Cain did not realize this was going to come out?

I think this is the part that upsets me. With all the allegations being made about him lately, it seems he would have IF NOTHING ELSE told his wife about this White person, if it was all innocent, on the basis that he can fairly well assume that news will be coming out about any woman he has talked to in the past 20 years. So he has dropped in my regard for him, that he either didn’t foresee this coming, didn’t head it off somehow. ?? Makes you wonder what it will be next week.


60 posted on 12/01/2011 2:25:09 PM PST by NEMDF
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To: smoothsailing

If Adultery mattered with conservatives Newt would not be up in the “polls.” If Amnesty mattered with conservatives Newt would be down with the claimed “polls” of Perry. If Corp Cronyism mattered Newt would be down in the polls. I refuse to believe so-called polls that go against common sense. The fact is they are forcing otherwise good people to not vote for who they want because they are being lied to about who is doing well and can get elected.


61 posted on 12/01/2011 2:25:21 PM PST by Mechanicos (Why does the DOE have a SWAT Team?)
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To: smoothsailing

“Nice guys finish last.”


62 posted on 12/01/2011 2:25:26 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: smoothsailing

I’m going out on a limb here, but I just don’t think he can hang onto that 9% in the polls....

Maybe I’m wrong.... we shall see.


63 posted on 12/01/2011 2:26:00 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~.. Newt/Palin-West-2012."got a lot swirling around in my head.")
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To: Barney Gumble

>> If we gave $10 for a fundraiser at work

There’s a BIG difference between a one-time gift to help someone past a rough spot and paying a single woman’s monthly maintenance bills.

If you don’t understand that difference, I’ll bet Mrs. Gumble can help you figure it out. :-)


64 posted on 12/01/2011 2:26:09 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Responsibility2nd; Truth29; littleharbour; writer33
Busted. I don't care how "innocent" the situation is. If your wife ain't in the loop on something like this....

If he was supporting another woman financially and emotionally without telling his wife, then he was being very dishonest with her and should not be supported by anyone who respects the sanctity of marriage.

Exactly. Glad to see some of you willing to call a spade a spade on these Cain threads amidst all the lame excuses people are giving as to why there was "no problem whatsoever" with a married man carrying on a 13-year "friendship" which included financial benefits (red flag!), and who didn't bother to tell his wife.

Either he is utterly insensitive and clueless about his responsibility towards his wife, or he is not telling the whole truth about the nature of the relationship.

His story doesn't quite add up as to why he would be helping this woman, and talking to her rather frequently all hours of the day or night - UNTIL you add in a sexual component. Oh - I get it now...

Where’s the crime?

You are asking the wrong question - and I suspect deliberately obfuscating the issue. No one here is claiming that Cain committed a "crime." The issue is whether or not the allegations regarding a sexual affair are true or not. I hope they are not, but so far his explanation doesn't add up IMHO.

65 posted on 12/01/2011 2:27:57 PM PST by tjd1454
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To: smoothsailing

66 posted on 12/01/2011 2:28:58 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Gator113

I’ll tell you now, no man keeps on giving a woman money every month for no reason.

Sorry Herman but your time is up. Cains finished.


67 posted on 12/01/2011 2:29:26 PM PST by sunmars
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To: Tennessee Nana

and George wasnt running for office...

and he didn’t do it for thirteen years....


68 posted on 12/01/2011 2:29:37 PM PST by jessduntno ("They say the world has become too complex for simple answers... they are wrong." - RR)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I starting to sound to me like this chick was just a prostitute.


69 posted on 12/01/2011 2:29:47 PM PST by circlecity
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

I’m looking forward to his cartoon movie on THIS. LOL


70 posted on 12/01/2011 2:30:18 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~.. Newt/Palin-West-2012."got a lot swirling around in my head.")
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To: Barney Gumble
I think we view his actions through our eyes. In our world, giving someone say $500 for rent is a big deal. If we gave $10 for a fundraiser at work, we may not tell our wives. To Cain, perhaps $500 is like $10 is to us. It would help his case, if he said “over the last X years, I’ve given $y to this many people”

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I don't think so. Thankfully, I'm pretty well off. My wife doesn't manage our finances and I regularly support organizations without necessarily asking permission. If it's significant, say $5000, I usually let her know about it. If it's a regular thing, as in something on my heart or hers, the other knows about it.

But there is a vast difference between supporting an organization, a cause, and a person. And there is a even bigger difference between supporting a person and supporting a person of the opposite sex. My wife trusts me and I trust her. And because we trust each other, you can bet that I'm not going to even have the appearance of hurting her by attaching myself to supporting someone else in that way without her being told by me.

At least that's my view on it. Clearly, it's not HC's. But HC is finding out, his view on this is not close to the mainstream Conservative view. His fundraising has dried up and he is taking a hit in the polls.
71 posted on 12/01/2011 2:30:34 PM PST by ktupper
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To: Barney Gumble
I think we view his actions through our eyes. In our world, giving someone say $500 for rent is a big deal. If we gave $10 for a fundraiser at work, we may not tell our wives. To Cain, perhaps $500 is like $10 is to us. It would help his case, if he said “over the last X years, I’ve given $y to this many people”

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I don't think so. Thankfully, I'm pretty well off. My wife doesn't manage our finances and I regularly support organizations without necessarily asking permission. If it's significant, say $5000, I usually let her know about it. If it's a regular thing, as in something on my heart or hers, the other knows about it.

But there is a vast difference between supporting an organization, a cause, and a person. And there is a even bigger difference between supporting a person and supporting a person of the opposite sex. My wife trusts me and I trust her. And because we trust each other, you can bet that I'm not going to even have the appearance of hurting her by attaching myself to supporting someone else in that way without her being told by me.

At least that's my view on it. Clearly, it's not HC's. But HC is finding out, his view on this is not close to the mainstream Conservative view. His fundraising has dried up and he is taking a hit in the polls.
72 posted on 12/01/2011 2:30:57 PM PST by ktupper
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To: ktupper
“But it doesn’t speak well for HC’s judgment, IMO, if he’s a married man and giving another woman money and his wife doesn’t know a thing about it.”

Couldn't have said it better. And Newt's “judgment” is even more questionable, but the fix seems to be in for him to be the Republican nominee. Newt's current story about his well-known marital affairs reminds me of a line from a popular song last year: “I've done some things but that was the old me.”

73 posted on 12/01/2011 2:31:32 PM PST by riverdawg
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To: D-fendr
"I did not have sex with that woman".....

This all sounds so familiar. Bubba and Monica exchanged gifts throughout their "non-sex" relationship.

The difference....I think Hillary and 100 other "loyalists" knew. I don't think Cain has that type of following.

74 posted on 12/01/2011 2:32:07 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Gator113

“Heck, over the past 2 days, several of the Cain’s FR people have been insisting she knew... so all was well.”

Brace yourself for the incoming flood of apologies and “gee, maybe you were right” notes.


75 posted on 12/01/2011 2:32:20 PM PST by jessduntno ("They say the world has become too complex for simple answers... they are wrong." - RR)
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To: circlecity

Well Ginger White sure does sound like something you’d find on a street corner and i don’t mean selling candy floss.


76 posted on 12/01/2011 2:32:20 PM PST by sunmars
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To: littleharbour
If his intentions were entirely honourable, then it’s something he would have proudly shared with his wife.

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No one with half a brain, especially in his position in business and in his congregation of 14,000, would be passing cash off to anyone without there being an accounting for it, a paper trail, without there being “witnesses” so as to guard his reputation in every way possible, so there would be no questions at all about the nature of the gift. Scripture says conduct above reproach -

77 posted on 12/01/2011 2:33:19 PM PST by Esther Ruth
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To: Tennessee Nana
IIRC, Gloria brought this female up in Greta's interview, a week before the Atlanta station aired the story. And the jumping for conclusions to murder Herman Cain's name still have no proof of moral wrong-doing to hang their swan dives upon, well, other than the word of very questionable females who are telling us whom not to vote for, just as the DNC would advise conservatives, again..
78 posted on 12/01/2011 2:33:30 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Gator113

Cain is now down to 6% in Florida. It is 50% Gingrich, 19% Romney, 6% Cain.


79 posted on 12/01/2011 2:35:56 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: sunmars
"Well Ginger White sure does sound like something you’d find on a street corner and i don’t mean selling candy floss."

Yeah. I'm thinking there were lots of $500 payments - always following a couple hours time with Ginger.

80 posted on 12/01/2011 2:36:20 PM PST by circlecity
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To: SatinDoll
No good deed goes unpunished.

Indeed, it always does! "Down on her luck" donee finds her big meal ticket screwing over longtime donor! In any event, Cain is toast as a primary candidate!

Now any REPUBLICAN political candidate better not be paying anything to an individual, however needy! "DEMOCRAT political candidates..., proceed as always!

81 posted on 12/01/2011 2:36:47 PM PST by ExSES (the "bottom-line")
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To: smoothsailing
Not good.
Now...for all of those who are vigorous defenders of Mr.Cain,and say,"This doesn't prove anything",you are quite wrong.

Think about it a moment.

You are a nice,compassionate,"soft-hearted" person.You help people all the time.These people normally would come forward to say "thanks" at some point,right? A phone call here,a thank-you card there....many,if not all of which,your spouse would notice at some point,particularly being a public or prominent figure,whether in the business or political world...
But, text messages at four in the morning...knowing someone for 13 years,someone of the opposite sex,and you have been "helping" this person for all of those years,without your spouse knowing about it-or you bothering to mention it to her/him at any time during that period of time...This doesn't strike a chord of suspicion with you?

Sorry but no dice. I think Cain got busted,he hasn't defended himself in a distinct,timely or definitive manner,and he is done.Were I his wife,the marriage could not survive.If he could pull off this kind of deception with the woman he swore to God to be faithful to for 13 years,you couldn't put anything past him. And although he's not married to me,and doesn't owe me anything,he is running for POTUS,supposedly to do a better job than the Marxist that's in there now.But that's based on a promise,and by voting for him, i'm putting my full faith and support behind him. I can't do that for someone I can't trust.
82 posted on 12/01/2011 2:37:22 PM PST by gimme1ibertee ("Criticism......brings attention to an unhealthy state of things"-Winston Churchill)
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To: smoothsailing

Is there anyone who still believes something wasn’t going on here?? Herman’s going to be squirmin’ when Mrs. Cain raises some tomorrow.


83 posted on 12/01/2011 2:37:33 PM PST by bigdaddy45
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To: mick

“Good Christian man”


Christian marriage - the two become one flesh. It is to be the most intimate and closest of relationships. I have no relationships, male, female, business entity, or otherwise for 13 years that my wife doesn’t know about at least in passing.

It doesn’t pass the smell test for my view of a Christian marriage. And it’s not passing the smell test for the donors or voters. His candidacy is done.


84 posted on 12/01/2011 2:38:02 PM PST by ktupper
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To: Sacajaweau
"Obama was oh so hoping he would get the nomination. All his Dem loyalists and the 95% black vote would stay with Obama."

No. obama is terrified of Herman Cain getting the nomination. Because obama knows that Herman Cain can and hopefully will if he stays in the race, take enough of the black vote away from obama to win.

Because there are going to be a whole lot of blacks that will see the miracle of the second black President.

Imagine that! Two black Presidents back to back! And you tell me that obama could win against Herman Cain? Not a chance.

85 posted on 12/01/2011 2:38:10 PM PST by GloriaJane (Pro Choice = Pro Death - Pro Life = Pro LIFE!)
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To: Esther Ruth

LOL You believe that?

Cain is done -thankfully we are learning all this nonsense now.


86 posted on 12/01/2011 2:38:25 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: ktupper
But there is a vast difference between supporting an organization, a cause, and a person. And there is a even bigger difference between supporting a person and supporting a person of the opposite sex. My wife trusts me and I trust her. And because we trust each other, you can bet that I'm not going to even have the appearance of hurting her by attaching myself to supporting someone else in that way without her being told by me.

Well put. One could in fact argue that in such circumstances, where the nature of the relationship could easily be misconstrued, a husband would be especially careful to inform his wife. IMHO the whole story doesn't add up - until you add in a sexual component.

87 posted on 12/01/2011 2:38:33 PM PST by tjd1454
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To: Responsibility2nd

Naive my ass. The guys a rich man who had thousands of employees and contacts and has probably given help and money to hundreds of people in his long career. I have been in business for over 40 yrs on two continents and I can tell you I have helped plenty of people off the cuff. Some become pain is the asses and call and try to keep the gravy train going. Some take it and move on. And sometimes I told my wife and sometimes I didn’t....for no other reason that I forgot about it. it isn’t what our life was about. And sometimes the person in question would call my home and then I would have to talk about it...until she would just tell me to stop being such a soft touch...even if it was a younger woman.....end of story. But then my wife is a grown up, like Cain’s wife, from a different generation, I guess.


88 posted on 12/01/2011 2:38:42 PM PST by mick (Central Banker Capitalism is NOT Free Enterprise)
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To: riverdawg

I don’t know, my grandfather did the same thing. He was a wealthy man and pretty much took care of a woman who had troubles. My grandmother did not know about it for years, but was able to understand when she learned about it. I remember going to my grandfather’s funeral and the woman was there. My mom explained to me who she was. My grandfather was just being a good person and helping out someone who needed it.


89 posted on 12/01/2011 2:38:42 PM PST by TBall
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To: ktupper

Well afterall, his wife did vote for Obama and is a Democrat, so she is pretty Liberal. Gullable, or something, but mostly....... clueless.


90 posted on 12/01/2011 2:40:56 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: smoothsailing

Thanks smooth, another “Bunker Buster”, “MOAB”, “JDAM”!

And right on target.


91 posted on 12/01/2011 2:43:06 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Herb is so done. What a train wreck. Did he not realize this would come out? and not to tell his wife before running?

What a dope.


92 posted on 12/01/2011 2:43:44 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: Nervous Tick

LOL... My wife owns her own shotgun. I own a backhoe and she knows how to run it. We have 5 acres and a forested area. But I would be grateful if she didn’t just wound me and let the chickens finish me off.... alive.


93 posted on 12/01/2011 2:44:36 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~.. Newt/Palin-West-2012."got a lot swirling around in my head.")
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To: sunmars

Yep... it sure looks over from here.


94 posted on 12/01/2011 2:47:04 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~.. Newt/Palin-West-2012."got a lot swirling around in my head.")
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To: smoothsailing

I was putting fuel in my truck the other day and some young lady came up and said she had run out of gas and need some fuel, I gave her a few bucks, but we did not have sex on the fuel island. Guess I must be some sort of pervert.


95 posted on 12/01/2011 2:47:09 PM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Newt, Willard, Perry and his fellow supporters.)
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To: GloriaJane

I can assure you that Obama isn’t the least bit “terrified” of Herman Cain getting the nomination. Cain is done.


96 posted on 12/01/2011 2:47:31 PM PST by bigdaddy45
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To: ktupper

Well that’s fine for you. But Herman Cain is a very rich and well traveled man who has met literally thousands of people in his life and knows some of these people I am sure off and on again for over 20yrs. You couldn’t possible tell your wife every “relationship” you had because that would be all you would be talking about. frankly I don’t want to know all the people my wife has a “relationship” wife. Why would I??
When you are pure and without guile and guilt you don’t need to share everything. It is called a mature trusting marriage where I come from.


97 posted on 12/01/2011 2:49:46 PM PST by mick (Central Banker Capitalism is NOT Free Enterprise)
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To: GlockThe Vote
Like I said further back, watching Cain on Cavuto, it was all lies from democrats trying to take him out to get Obama elected, someone else just picking on poor me, everything the woman said was totally false in every way, he never knew her very well, and on and on.

Cain can't even remember his own words that come out of his mouth.

Pure and stagnant Denial.

98 posted on 12/01/2011 2:49:51 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: org.whodat

Really? Did you also exchange phone numbers so you could keep doing it for the next 13 years?


99 posted on 12/01/2011 2:49:56 PM PST by bigdaddy45
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To: org.whodat

one time is one thing - this was over 13 years!

How is he going to explain this to his wife. Especially thr 4am texts!

Maybe Herb has a kid with her?


100 posted on 12/01/2011 2:50:02 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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