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Mark Steyn: Newt as the Republican presidential candidate is extremely dismaying to me."
Hugh Hewitt.com ^ | December 1,2011 | Hugh Hewitt

Posted on 12/01/2011 3:37:44 PM PST by Hojczyk

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To: WestSylvanian

“Another concern for me—his age.”
If the debates prove anything it is that he is sharp as a tack. The other stuff I heard Salvage saying on his show too. Of course Johnson wasn’t exactly pretty either and he won. My fear is that Newt will not get the women’s vote.


61 posted on 12/01/2011 6:53:22 PM PST by willk
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To: Hojczyk

rock soild support of 25% is not so hot

75% of the people DONT WANT HIM no matter how “solid” it is


62 posted on 12/01/2011 6:53:42 PM PST by Mr. K (Physically unable to profreed <--- oops, see?)
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To: PjhCPA
But now I have no clue who to support.

Draft Jim DeMint. Or Paul Ryan. Right now since the media has decided I can't have Herman Cain, my choices are Bachmann, Santorum or a write-in. I know more than a few Freepers who won't vote for either Myth Romney or Newt Mexico.

63 posted on 12/01/2011 6:53:59 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Why, yes. I AM in a bad mood.)
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To: GeronL
“Both positions are equally bad. I don’t know if Newt is “more liberal” than Romney since both of them flip flop so often its a coin toss as to who is more liberal on any given day.”

Mitt has sounded very conservative in the debates and interviews. Yea. I know he is a politician. But you have to keep in mind he was Gov. of one of the most liberal states. If he doesn't do what he says we can always dump him in 4 years. I just think he is our best bet to beat Obama.

64 posted on 12/01/2011 7:02:08 PM PST by willk
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Why did Newt go soft on racial preferences back in the 90s? He talked tough about it, but once he was Speaker and could actually push strong legislation, he became as worthless as every other Republican on this issue. He could have pushed for a strong, popular anti-preferences bill that would have been hard for Clinton to veto, but instead decided that defending the interests of poor-middle class whites wasn’t worth being called a racist.

I would love to hear him asked about this. I would love to hear him reconcile his support for mass immigration and its looming massive collision with racial preferences.


65 posted on 12/01/2011 7:10:35 PM PST by Aetius
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To: willk

“Mitt has sounded very conservative in the debates and interviews. Yea. I know he is a politician. But you have to keep in mind he was Gov. of one of the most liberal states. If he doesn’t do what he says we can always dump him in 4 years. I just think he is our best bet to beat Obama.”

You’re not even presenting half the story, or even enough of it for my taste. I really, really, despise Gingrich, and do not feel the guy belongs in the place where he was whilst he committed his worst attrocities: D.C. Politics, when people hear about the allegations against Herman Cain, those against Newt will be the same allegations - on steroids. Mitt does sound bad, but his closet is tame compared to Gingrich. As much as I hate to say it, I would never vote for Gingrich to be our candidate for his acts of declaring divorce while his wife was still in the hospital. Yeah, even if I were to get a divorce I would wait till my wife was off the bed and off her life support before I asked for any notion. It lacks any shred of decency what Newt did, and it makes almost half of all the Democrat politicians look tame. I will never join Mitt’s religion, nor do I care for it, but I know Newt Gingrich for the hypocritical scumbag that he is, and also was. If we have to lose this election on the presidential ticket, I will at least go with the cultist over the man who was a complete hypocrite about his Christianity. I can’t, in my own good conscience, trust a man who can’t respectfully divorce his wife.

Some people mention flaws that Obama can exploit in Gingrich. Those aren’t just flaws, in terms of campaigning, Obama will pretty much drop the 50-megaton bomb on Newt Gingrich, as the skeletons in Gingrich’s closet are an order of magnitude worse than Obama’s in terms of the truth that’s out there to know about him, not just conspiracy theories, he treats his succeeding wives and his children like scum, plain and simple, plus he lies repeatedly about his Conservativism, and he sat around in the D.C. Beltway, and he brought a great deal of the S%^& that fell on conservativism throughout the 90s and 2000s.

Even now, the real serious issue is that he hasn’t proven himself neccessarily all that redeemed, especially when he’s getting back into his politics. As for voting Catholic, tell me about it, I’ve seen plenty of them run for office, but plenty of them are all about as corruptible.

As for Romney, I agree with you on making him a one-termer. Newt Gingrich figured earlier this year that he wasn’t all so interested in politics, what? He broke his good ol’ promise again! Don’t worry about Gingrich, because either Obama will take him down as soon as he gets the nomination, or we simply get someone who, with his record of breaking promises, including that to not be as concerned with politics anymore, this year, I feel like I can trust him as a politician, as much as I can trust a guy who calls himself clean of alcoholism while his breath smells like whiskey


66 posted on 12/01/2011 7:57:51 PM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: willk

My fear is that Newt will not get the women’s vote.

Don’t fear it, assume it. The moment Newt gets any nomination, Obama and his team will be all over him about his string of marriages, it will be demoralizing and degenerating to most of us. Not just because he cheated on his wife, but because he dumped her in the hospital - yes, you heard me, he dumped her in the hospital. I hate to say that some political tickets deserve to lose, but if Newt gets elected, it opens the door for all sorts of disgrace on the rest of us on the right-wing, I know we can get smeared for various issues regardless. But please, for whatever is decent, nobody should in their right mind, ever go for Gingrich, it’s suicide.


67 posted on 12/01/2011 8:09:02 PM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: chris37

Newt has serious flaws which will be exploited by the left, no doubt about it.

The flaws are an Achilles’ Heel in the election. Yeah, vote for a guy who declares divorce while his wife is in the hospital, vote for a guy who admits that politics was corruptive to his religion March of this very same year, then he’s up and at it again. Really, Newt, you want to admit something was so bad for you and your three marriages, then go back at it! Yeah, it’s so easy to vote for Newt. I love him as a fellow brother under God, but I can’t vote for Newt in any political office in this land, he just doesn’t belong there, and there’s just too much liability to him.

IMO, Obama wants us to choose Newt, because he will get up and say,”Hey, ladies and gentleman, I have the most amazing story about Mr. Gingrich you can ever hear, I know adultery is such a casual word out here in the beltway, but have you ever heard of a man who cheated on his wife, then divorced her before she could even leave her hospital bed?!!! Well, yes, my fellow Americans, he is here, he’s in style, and his name’s spelled G-I-N-G-R-I-C-H. I guarantee you that Obama will say something along these lines shortly following Gingrich’s nomination.

Vote how you may wish, but I already know what Gingrich means, and for all I dislike about some candidates in particular, I won’t throw away my principles to give political office to a man who doesn’t belong in politics anymore. I don’t care if Santorum, or my last choice is someone who should not be made, but I will not support Gingrich in politics.


68 posted on 12/01/2011 8:27:56 PM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: Morpheus2009

Mark Steyn atttacks whoever is not Mitt Romney.

He was miserable this week as a guest host on Rush. He sounded like a broken record attacking all the other candidates except Mitt Romney. It got so bad at times, that a caller called the show just to confront Steyn about his obvious case of selective criticism!


69 posted on 12/01/2011 8:33:15 PM PST by o2bfree
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To: LibLieSlayer

But at the same time, I am not going to be taken in to just agree with certain candidates, and Newt Gingrich is someone I just can’t trust, at least in politics. I love him as I should love any other human being from scum to saint, but I just can’t support a guy with rampant bouncing checks, failure to pay his child support while fairly wealthy, and dumping his wife in the hospital. I don’t care if the people I support don’t win in the primaries, I just can’t vote for Gingrich, and don’t care what people may think of me for doing it. If the GOP wants to commit suicide with Gingrich, go ahead, but I will support whatever candidates are the lesser of two evils for Congress instead for this election season, if I have to deal with the shame of seeing a candidate get the nomination only to get smeared and kicked out with loads of laughter from the Obama administration on how he just played us all up.


70 posted on 12/01/2011 8:33:20 PM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: Morpheus2009

There’s just something about the man...

Arrogance.

And all the conservative lemmings are marching right over the cliff.

Sadly, from what I can tell, America is about to be done in by her own people, of which there are three groups-

1. The Evil.

2. The Stupid.

3. Those of us whom are outnumbered significantly by groups 1 and 2.

The End.


71 posted on 12/01/2011 9:10:27 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: normy

Excellent post normy.

I’m close to sidling up with your boy’s posse.


72 posted on 12/01/2011 11:55:28 PM PST by bigoil (Study Thy Nixon)
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To: Morpheus2009
You are not alone... too many of us stand against any progressive candidate for the party to win... and if they alienate us with a progressive... well the end of today's republican party will be at hand... and those that run it... control it... will own the defeat. WE have warned them for far too long.

LLS

73 posted on 12/02/2011 5:29:39 AM PST by LibLieSlayer ("Americans are hungry to feel once again a sense of mission and greatness." Ronaldo Magnus)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
RD, I have been on FR for months promoting Perry, I just figured people kinda knew. Sorry about that.

I don't mean to trash Newt like that but that is how he is going to be seen by the majority of the public. That's just how the American public is.

I support Rick Perry because when all is said and done he has the very best record of everyone running and that is how we are going to beat Obama. We must put the guy up against Obama who we can say,

"yes he might be xyz, but he created more jobs than you did, he has military experience and you don't, he ran the 13th largest economy in the world and it prospered while you ran the 1st largest economy into the ground.

We have to have a record to run against Obama, not a personality or a policy wonk and Perry has the record. It makes a voter consider what he is voting for. With Mitt or Newt you are voting for ideas or suggestions but with Perry your voting for him doing in the USA for the economy what he has done in Texas. That is tangible that a voter can hold on to.

74 posted on 12/02/2011 6:15:22 AM PST by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: basil
Rick Perry.

Prospered the 13th largest economy in the world and created jobs while Obama destroyed the largest economy in the world.

Ex-Military and CIC of a 20k military in Texas.

Proven fiscal responsibility.

Proven job creation.

Proven social conservative.

I mean Perry has a record to run against Obama. No one else does and when you go up against the billion dollar machine you better have more than personality, looks or policy knowledge. You better have a record to show the voter.

75 posted on 12/02/2011 6:19:50 AM PST by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: normy

I think Rick is fine—no problem with him at all! I was just so enthralled with Cain-—and now I think the media has brought him down so that he doesn’t stand much of a chance. That is shameful, but it is what it is.

I’ve said it before and I’ll repeat it now—whoever our Republican nominee is, I’ll vote for him—even if I have to hold my nose (Romney, Newt) to do it.

Any pubbie is thousands of times better than obammy.......IMHO


76 posted on 12/02/2011 6:46:36 AM PST by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: Hojczyk

Actually, the thought of anyone in the declared field being the Republican presidential candidate is extremely dismaying to me.


77 posted on 12/02/2011 6:56:41 AM PST by RichInOC (Palin 2012: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg
Draft Jim DeMint. Or Paul Ryan. Right now since the media has decided I can't have Herman Cain, my choices are Bachmann, Santorum or a write-in. I know more than a few Freepers who won't vote for either Myth Romney or Newt Mexico.

Being from Wisconsin I'm a huge Ryan fan. Bachmann's too goofy. I could support Santorum. I used to listen to him on the radio. But he doesn't have a prayer.

I will vote for the Republican (not matter who they are) against Obama. I will not waiste my vote on a third party candidate.

78 posted on 12/02/2011 7:04:19 AM PST by PjhCPA (Anybody but Obama or Romney or Newt (crap....what's left?....crap))
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To: GeronL
Better them than another more liberal Sotomayor or Kagan.
79 posted on 12/02/2011 7:13:01 AM PST by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: PjhCPA
Bachmann's too goofy.

Being from Minnesota, I can tell you she's not. She's simply marginalized by a media who is petrified of a strong conservative woman.

That said, I did not favor her run for President since she needs more time to develop a national following and traditionally we do not elect Presidents from the House of Representatives.

I do wish Ryan would have run, though, despite all of that. I think he could have bucked the trend.

80 posted on 12/02/2011 10:14:28 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Why, yes. I AM in a bad mood.)
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