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Cain to decide on White House bid 'before Monday'
AFP ^ | Dec. 2, 2011

Posted on 12/01/2011 11:08:50 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY

Republican presidential hopeful Herman Cain will decide "before Monday" on whether to quit the race for the White House as claims of a 13-year affair threatened to end a campaign dogged by sex scandals.

Cain, once the front-runner to take on President Barack Obama in November 2012 elections, has denied wrongdoing, saying he was only friends with his latest accuser, Ginger White, who says they had a sexual relationship.

"Before Monday we'll make a decision," Cain said in an interview on Fox News late Thursday, admitting that a flurry of allegations of misconduct had sent his presidential bid "off message."

"It's not fair to my family, it's not fair to my supporters, it's not fair to this campaign, it's every week, now three out of four weeks... we've been hit with another one of these accusations," he said.

"The decision could be we're going to continue with this campaign, full speed ahead. The decision could be we're going to suspend the campaign.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


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To: samantha; rogue yam

You two seem like a matched set. Are you both typing these irrational responses as you are drinking beers and whiskeys packing up your desks at the Cain Train HQ?


101 posted on 12/02/2011 1:06:53 AM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Lazlo in PA
I have been Married for as long as HC has been married. You obviously like having someone keep tabs on you, that shows a lack of trust on someones part. He knows a lot of people and has a busy agenda, and has for many years.

How do you think a man with stage IV cancer is having an affair with that manly looking thing?

If this was you candidate that they were doing this to,you would change your attitude.

102 posted on 12/02/2011 1:07:34 AM PST by samantha (Sarah is our TEAple. leader for America the Beautiful...Go Herman Cain.)
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To: matthew fuller
I guess if you use shuck and jive in referring to HC,and see no problem, you have a problem.
103 posted on 12/02/2011 1:09:28 AM PST by samantha (Sarah is our TEAple. leader for America the Beautiful...Go Herman Cain.)
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To: samantha
Maybe you should read what Newt and Marianne's daughter has said about it...

My mother and father were already in the process of getting a divorce, which she requested.

104 posted on 12/02/2011 1:10:23 AM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: kevao
"You'd never have to answer that charge if Herman Cain were the GOP nominee. But if he goes down, the answer will be, You're racist for being anti-Obama; you're just not comfortable with a black man in the White House."

You just made me realize that it's been a while, a good while since we've had that charge thrown at us from the msm. Every since Herman Cain started climbing up in the charts.

I guess we're going to have that thrown at us again if Mr. Cain would pull out of the running. I pray that he doesn't quit. I do so want to see the day that we have President Herman Cain and his lovely family in the White House.

105 posted on 12/02/2011 1:11:24 AM PST by GloriaJane (Pro Choice = Pro Death - Pro Life = Pro LIFE!)
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To: samantha; matthew fuller

“shuck and jive”

Would you please show any evidence of such?

Links to posts to prove your assertion?


106 posted on 12/02/2011 1:12:07 AM PST by dixiechick2000 (Proud barbarian TEA Party SOB and, apparently, an evil Capitalist.)
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To: wardaddy
Yuk! I have been told many times that I am a good Yankee.

You proved my point in a really disgusting way.

107 posted on 12/02/2011 1:13:16 AM PST by samantha (Sarah is our TEAple. leader for America the Beautiful...Go Herman Cain.)
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To: GloriaJane

108 posted on 12/02/2011 1:14:24 AM PST by GloriaJane (Pro Choice = Pro Death - Pro Life = Pro LIFE!)
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To: samantha; wardaddy

You...TOTALLY...missed his point.


109 posted on 12/02/2011 1:14:44 AM PST by dixiechick2000 (Proud barbarian TEA Party SOB and, apparently, an evil Capitalist.)
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To: mylife
Nailed you because, you are hurting Perry by your attitude about HC. I did not blame Perry for that incident,but I will bet some of his friends are not innocent.
110 posted on 12/02/2011 1:16:32 AM PST by samantha (Sarah is our TEAple. leader for America the Beautiful...Go Herman Cain.)
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To: GloriaJane

What a great graphic!

The only disagreement I have is that lobbyists aren’t the devil.

It’s the dang Congresscritter who sells their votes to lobbyists who I don’t like.

The buck stops there.

I don’t like that they are able to get inside info and trade on it, too.


111 posted on 12/02/2011 1:17:30 AM PST by dixiechick2000 (Proud barbarian TEA Party SOB and, apparently, an evil Capitalist.)
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To: mylife

BS,is what you have.


112 posted on 12/02/2011 1:18:15 AM PST by samantha (Sarah is our TEAple. leader for America the Beautiful...Go Herman Cain.)
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“It’s the dang Congresscritter who sells their votes to lobbyists who I don’t like.”

If there weren’t so many campaign dollars involved, do you think lobbyists would get the time of day from Congresscritters?


113 posted on 12/02/2011 1:19:23 AM PST by dixiechick2000 (Proud barbarian TEA Party SOB and, apparently, an evil Capitalist.)
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To: Lazlo in PA
You miss my entire point, and it is a shame you do not get it. The Rats can do this to any of the GOP candidates,but they need the gullible,partisan cooperation of people like you.

Stop judging HC by yourself. He is a self made millionaire and a decent person that you are helping to destroy with your shoddy detective work. You really don't seem to have any kindness in you.

114 posted on 12/02/2011 1:25:35 AM PST by samantha (Sarah is our TEAple. leader for America the Beautiful...Go Herman Cain.)
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To: dixiechick2000

Thank You!

I don’t like the selling of influence either and this country would be a whole lot better off with out it.

Do away with lobbyists and our congress critters can find out what we want when they have their town meetings. No money changes hands that way. And I think we’d all be a lot better off for it.


115 posted on 12/02/2011 1:27:20 AM PST by GloriaJane (Pro Choice = Pro Death - Pro Life = Pro LIFE!)
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To: dixiechick2000
You wish. I know at least 60 percent more now than I did even two years ago. I still have the video of when Old Newtie took over the Gavel as speaker. Too bad he never grew up.
116 posted on 12/02/2011 1:29:01 AM PST by samantha (Sarah is our TEAple. leader for America the Beautiful...Go Herman Cain.)
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To: mylife

You are hopeless..............................................................


117 posted on 12/02/2011 1:30:26 AM PST by samantha (Sarah is our TEAple. leader for America the Beautiful...Go Herman Cain.)
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To: dixiechick2000
Tragically I bet you would,and the lose in 2012.
118 posted on 12/02/2011 1:32:35 AM PST by samantha (Sarah is our TEAple. leader for America the Beautiful...Go Herman Cain.)
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To: TigersEye

Too close to home for you? Toning down the not so subtle references will help a great deal. Sometimes people are so used to acting that way,they have to be reminded that it is not right.


119 posted on 12/02/2011 1:38:22 AM PST by samantha (Sarah is our TEAple. leader for America the Beautiful...Go Herman Cain.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

Leave it alone.


120 posted on 12/02/2011 1:39:29 AM PST by samantha (Sarah is our TEAple. leader for America the Beautiful...Go Herman Cain.)
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To: TigersEye

Wrong it was not Marianne it was his first wife that has the daughter that spoke out. Hopeless, that is what you are.


121 posted on 12/02/2011 1:42:10 AM PST by samantha (Sarah is our TEAple. leader for America the Beautiful...Go Herman Cain.)
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To: mylife

WHat the heck do you mean “paying this woman”... as in a service?

SERIOUSLY?

He gave this woman money to help her out, paying bills. He has done the same for other people, male and female, according to family and friends.

I have done the same, my husband has done the same. Yes, both of us have given money to help others without telling each other too. It’s not hard to do when you live fairly comfortably. My husband is one of the most generous people I know, and it has never bothered me that he gives money to friends in need.

I CANNOT BELIEVE CONSERVATIVES ARE BEATING THIS MAN DOWN FOR PHILANTRHOPY.

What is wrong with all of you?


122 posted on 12/02/2011 1:42:47 AM PST by justsaynomore (http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: samantha
Now you're accusing me of being a racist? LOL

You're an asshole.

123 posted on 12/02/2011 1:42:58 AM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: dixiechick2000

Look at the thread, and stop being inane.


124 posted on 12/02/2011 1:43:53 AM PST by samantha (Sarah is our TEAple. leader for America the Beautiful...Go Herman Cain.)
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To: dixiechick2000

Go fantasize you are boring.


125 posted on 12/02/2011 1:45:08 AM PST by samantha (Sarah is our TEAple. leader for America the Beautiful...Go Herman Cain.)
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To: TigersEye

Wrong, you need to put the hot toddy away, and stop calling other people what you are yourself.


126 posted on 12/02/2011 1:48:28 AM PST by samantha (Sarah is our TEAple. leader for America the Beautiful...Go Herman Cain.)
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To: samantha
Now you're accusing me of being drunk. Everything you say is based on some unfounded assumption isn't it? LOL

Keep digging that hole, jerk.

127 posted on 12/02/2011 1:50:05 AM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: samantha

“Judging others by your filthy sense of values can hurt a lot of decent people. He is a Millionaire that gives to people in need. I guess you never had the grace to do that, so it is foreign to you.”

Amazing, the naivete of some people. The only one who has a filthy sense of values here is Herman Cain, but I guess that concept is foreign to you.


128 posted on 12/02/2011 2:20:43 AM PST by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: TigersEye

Newtie wanted to be married to Marianne and Callista at the same time. That is sick, and sounds like he wanted to be a Mormon from 120 years ago.

“Speaking of ugly, hateful and unfounded accusations...”

Can’t handle the truth, can you?


129 posted on 12/02/2011 2:24:11 AM PST by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: flaglady47; samantha

Flaglady responded as I would have responded to you Samantha

She saved me the trouble.

Thanks


130 posted on 12/02/2011 2:27:06 AM PST by woofie (It takes three villages and a forest of woodland creatures to raise a child in Obamaville)
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To: flaglady47

Is that the truth? A lot of things have been said about Newt Gingrich and a lot of those things have been debunked as lies. What I can’t handle is hypocrites who smear any Republican candidate that isn’t their own and any FReeper who supports them. Or wild accusations of racism against other FReepers.


131 posted on 12/02/2011 2:32:02 AM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: justsaynomore

If Cain quits, Soros and the media win. I’d rather see him continue and ask the media why they won’t examine Obama as closely as they do the conservatives.


132 posted on 12/02/2011 2:43:59 AM PST by IM2MAD
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To: IM2MAD

Heck, he could be brave and raise the eligibility issue, something no Republican has the will to do. That might shake things up a bit.


133 posted on 12/02/2011 2:46:57 AM PST by IM2MAD
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To: IM2MAD
One might question whether Donald Trump is much of a Republican or even a politician but he did raise the eligibility question. He actually caused the 0bama administration to panic and hastily put out a completely phony BC.
134 posted on 12/02/2011 2:58:24 AM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: kevao

He said he gave her money for “month to month expenses” and some people assume that means he gave her money every month. And then stretch it to “he paid her rent.”


135 posted on 12/02/2011 2:59:10 AM PST by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Gloria warned Herman on Greta weeks ago: If you screw up, “you will stand at that podium alone”. And she meant it. Without her, his campaign is done. Tragic destruction of a fine career and reputation. And for what? Clinton was ON TAPE telling Gennifer Flowers to deny an affair during the NH Primary - and he STILL came in 2nd, and then won the Presidency. All because Hillary has no soul and stood by him and lied, and kept lying and denying right through and beyond Lewinsky (”vast, right-wing conspiracy”). Gloria Cain is no Hillary. She has a soul and a fear of God. What a marvelous First Lady she might have made - in a parallel universe. In THIS one, Liberals are immune to scandal, while conservatives are undone by the slightest hint of one - even an unproven one. Yet Newt is somehow immune to his scandals, because they are no longer “newsworthy”. And so the beat goes on. Progressive Democrats, Progressive Republicans. And as Mark Levin says, we move further away from a Constitutional Republic with every election.


136 posted on 12/02/2011 3:02:55 AM PST by montag813
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To: montag813
Progressive Democrats, Progressive Republicans.

Exactly. There really isn't much of a difference..."meet the new boss..."

137 posted on 12/02/2011 3:10:30 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: flaglady47
"sounds like he wanted to be a Mormon from 120 years ago"

That's not possible.
Newt is only 100 years old.

Are there any sane Cain supporters here?
138 posted on 12/02/2011 3:17:59 AM PST by shimbo
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To: P-Marlowe

Are you celebrating it, sir or ma’am?


139 posted on 12/02/2011 4:01:55 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Cain: 1st Victim of 2012 Obama Camp's Smear Machine's PROOF OF CONCEPT Effort. Did You Assist Them?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Poor Cain. At the pace the media is tearing him down, it won’t be long until his brand reaches/descends to Newt’s level. Well, we still have Perry!


140 posted on 12/02/2011 4:13:08 AM PST by dontgivein
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Ok suckers. Time to move on to another fraud.


141 posted on 12/02/2011 4:26:44 AM PST by Huck (LIBERTY is the object.)
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To: montag813

OK. It’s Friday. D-Day.

Can you imagine how HC must feel right now? He’s been able to discuss this with his wife from a distance, over the phone. Now he has to walk in the front door and look her in the eyes.

I’ve been married for 15 years and have made my share of mistakes. Nothing near the magnitude of this but mistakes none the less. There is no worse feeling than having to sit down next to the wife, and explain my stupidity.
I imagine his nerves are probably peaked....

Taken on face value, what he did was done with very poor foresight. At this point, we don’t know why he felt the need to pay this woman money for rent and such on a monthly basis for 13 years. Was it charity? Maybe. We don’t know what the 60-odd text messages say or even who wrote the majority of them. We currently don’t know much of anything but the speculation that is going around is pretty nuts. That being said, on a human viewpoint, it doesn’t sound good. If this were a friend of mine and he did all of the above, I would have some real deep questions for him. My thoughts would be that there is something deeper to this.
In the mind of voters, HC’s image is now tarnished. A lot of people are looking at this as too much drama. It’s going to be a very big hole for him to crawl out of. It is all going to be based on how he decides to continue.


142 posted on 12/02/2011 5:13:17 AM PST by Snark
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To: AmericanInTokyo; xzins; Outlaw Woman; flaglady47
Are you celebrating it, sir or ma’am?

No. But it is good to know that Cain is not the man we all projected him to be. Unfortunately his wife has just found that out along with us.

You don't pay another woman's rent for years and not tell your wife unless.... [Fill in the blank].

Use Occam's Razor.

143 posted on 12/02/2011 6:06:54 AM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe; AmericanInTokyo; wmfights; Outlaw Woman; flaglady47
You don't pay another woman's rent for years and not tell your wife unless.... [Fill in the blank].

Use Occam's Razor.

I had not heard he had been paying her rent for years without his wife's knowledge. If nothing else, it has the appearance of an impropriety, doesn't it?

I can guarantee you that my wife would not be "thrilled" by it even one little bit.

I need a link on the part about paying rent for years without wife's knowledge. Do you have one?

Really, though, this is not the reason folks have moved away from Cain. It was the foreign policy gaffes, the state immigration gaffe, and the lack of constitutional knowledge that really hurt him. (I wasn't warm and cozy with his pro-choice verbiage - however much denied - even before that.)

The clincher for me was when he did the 3 hour debate with Gingrich and kept asking Newt for the answers. It made clear to me that even Herman Cain thought Newt was the expert in the room. Who was I to disagree with him about himself?

This race is over. Gingrich has risen to the top based on quality communication, debating, handling of the media, and policy substance. The remainder of the conservatives should drop out so Romney will realize that he's been smoked.

144 posted on 12/02/2011 6:27:35 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: samantha

You did not, but Cain did,
and he tried to blame the bimbo eruptions on him as well.


145 posted on 12/02/2011 6:44:03 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: justsaynomore

I did not say he was paying her for a service.


147 posted on 12/02/2011 6:48:04 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: flaglady47
Before marrying Marianne, Gingrich presented his first wife, Jackie Battley, with the terms of their divorce as she lay in a hospital bed recovering from surgery for uterine cancer. Gingrich had pursued Marianne from nearly the moment they met at a January 1980 fundraiser:

http://www.creators.com/conservative/jackie-gingrich-cushman/setting-the-record-straight.html

Newt's daughter by his first wife wrote the letter at the above link in which she said this:

My father, former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich, has been in politics as long as I can remember.

And as long as I can remember, media coverage about him has contained misstatements of facts. The vast majority are simple mistakes that are easily corrected, understood and rewoven into an ongoing storyline.

But one of them seems to have taken on a life of its own, and simple corrections have not sufficed to set the record straight. Why does this happen? I can't be sure, but I suspect that the narrative created by these untruths proves to be so much more compelling and more dramatic than what actually happened that it proves irresistible.

I'm talking about the story of my father's visit to my mother while she was in the hospital in 1980.

For years, I have thought about trying to correct the untrue accounts of this hospital visit. After all, I was at the hospital with them, and saw and heard what happened. But I have always hesitated, as it was a private family matter and my mother is a very private person. In addition, for the four people involved, it was one of a million interactions and was not considered a defining event by any of us.

My mother and I have both recently run into quite a few people who hold an inaccurate understanding of this hospital visit. Many think my mother is dead.

So, to correct the record, here is what happened: My mother, Jackie Battley Gingrich, is very much alive, and often spends time with my family. I am lucky to have such a "Miracle Mom," as I titled her in a column this week.

As for my parents' divorce, I can remember when they told me.

It was the spring of 1980.

I was 13 years old, and we were about to leave Fairfax, Va., and drive to Carrollton, Ga., for the summer. My parents told my sister and me that they were getting a divorce as our family of four sat around the kitchen table of our ranch home.

Soon afterward, my mom, sister and I got into our light-blue Chevrolet Impala and drove back to Carrollton.

Later that summer, Mom went to Emory University Hospital in Atlanta for surgery to remove a tumor. While she was there, Dad took my sister and me to see her.

It is this visit that has turned into the infamous hospital visit about which many untruths have been told. I won't repeat them. You can look them up online if you are interested in untruths. But here's what happened:

My mother and father were already in the process of getting a divorce, which she requested.

Dad took my sister and me to the hospital to see our mother.

She had undergone surgery the day before to remove a tumor.

The tumor was benign.

As with many divorces, it was hard and painful for all involved, but life continued.

As have many families, we have healed; we have moved on.

We are not a perfect family, but we are knit together through common bonds, commitment and love.

My mother and father are alive and well, and my sister and I are blessed to have a close relationship with them both.

My sister and I feel that it is time to move on, close the book on this event and focus on building a great future. We will not answer additional questions or make additional comments regarding this meaningless incident, which occurred more than three decades ago.

As I said, my mother is a private person. She will not give media interviews. She deserves respect and should be allowed to live in peace.

To find out more about Jackie Gingrich Cushman, and read features by other Creators Syndicate writers and cartoonists, visit www.creators.com.

COPYRIGHT 2011 JACKIE CUSHMAN

DISTRIBUTED BY CREATORS.COM

Based on this letter from Newt's own daughter who is also the loving daughter of the wife in the hospital, it is obvious that your last post was based on some glaring errors in fact.

Because of that, and because the points of the article are based on those errors of fact, it is impossible to consider it a relevant article.

148 posted on 12/02/2011 7:06:09 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: PalinPlease

The 50s called. They want your post back.


149 posted on 12/02/2011 7:24:30 AM PST by magritte
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To: xzins

“Dad took my sister and me to the hospital to see our mother.
She had undergone surgery the day before to remove a tumor.
The tumor was benign.
As with many divorces, it was hard and painful for all involved, but life continued.
As have many families, we have healed; we have moved on.”

Note how nowhere does the daughter say what the conversation that took place in the hospital between her mother and father was about. She just says they went to the hospital for the visit. Her comments say nothing about what took place or the topic discussed between them. So your point is moot. I suggest you read the September 2011 Esquire magazine about Newt in its entirety. Then you will know a whole lot more about Newt Gingrich and how he operates. It’s an eye opener.


150 posted on 12/02/2011 7:27:40 AM PST by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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