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Gingrich: Poor kids don't work
CBSNews.com ^ | December 1, 2011 | staff reporter

Posted on 12/02/2011 6:18:45 AM PST by Daffynition

At a campaign stop in Des Moines, Iowa Thursday, GOP presidential candidate Newt Gingrich said children in poor neighborhoods have "no habits of working," no one around them works and they get cash illegally.

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To: ZX12R
"It's not a job problem, it's a culture problem."

Right. Jobs Americans won't do, and all that. Do you people ever poke your noses outside your house?


51 posted on 12/02/2011 6:48:42 AM PST by CowboyJay (Generic Republican - 2012. He's the only 'electable' candidate.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

Newt is responsible because of his compromising with the Democrats all the time, reaching across the aisle. Or have you forgotten


52 posted on 12/02/2011 6:49:22 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Beagle8U

Sorry about the double post.


53 posted on 12/02/2011 6:49:44 AM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: yldstrk
These poor kids are living in a concrete maze with parents who are children themselves.

Ever seen “Blind Side”? sheesh. what a bunch of self righteous fools. The social programs (ineffectual and foolishly administered) are not what is breaking the economy.

The "social programs" are what enables the "parents who are children themselves" to keep having children. You say it's not breaking the economy. How can you have a healthy economy with a population that doesn't know how to work, and is actively hostile to the idea that they should learn how?

54 posted on 12/02/2011 6:50:20 AM PST by tacticalogic
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To: cripplecreek

I agree with you. More freedom is the right answer, government jobs is not.


55 posted on 12/02/2011 6:51:13 AM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Beagle8U

Bingo!

We have a nail which has just been hit upon the head!

“Who would want to work in America? This is what the taxpayers are paying for!”


56 posted on 12/02/2011 6:51:52 AM PST by BwanaNdege (“Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address” - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: RockinRight
He’s not saying this to say they’re inherently lazy or “bad people”, he’s (correctly) saying that due to the welfare society, fatherlessness, etc...that they don’t know anything else. They don’t see successful people to look up to.

Yes that headline is a typical MSM distortion. I'm not a Gingrich supporter, but it's very disappointing to see Freepers repeating the MSM's calumnies.

And BTW Gingrich is right - there isn't a culture of work in the 'hood.

57 posted on 12/02/2011 6:52:13 AM PST by jtal (Runnin' a World in Need with White Folks' Greed - since 1492)
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To: GeronL

He didn’t say all poor kids were lazy criminals. I am sure he will have to explain himself at some point, but I believe he is speaking of the underlying culture that has been bred. Obviously some escape, but the vast majority do not.


58 posted on 12/02/2011 6:52:16 AM PST by wolfman23601
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To: GeronL
most kids - those with more, those with less - do not and will not work.

When the kids are poor this is a bigger problem because the parents do have the means to provide the gadgets and bling that kids want, so guess who they look to?

One size never fits all but he's right.

59 posted on 12/02/2011 6:52:54 AM PST by NativeSon
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To: ZX12R
Welfare, food stamps, drug dealing, and theft make them a good living right where they are. It's not a job problem, it's a culture problem.

They don't know how to work, they know how to get money, and they're not the same thing.

60 posted on 12/02/2011 6:53:48 AM PST by tacticalogic
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To: tacticalogic

The problem is government in our hair and government created an environment that is hostile to business. Believe me, I work with these people and when they can get jobs, they are ecstatic. However, there are so few jobs, and then there is another issue:

When a person does get a job, sometimes they think “this is how the wealthy got theirs” and corruption occurs, cheating on expense accounts, relieving the employer of their excess office equipment, embezzlement, hand in the till WE NEED GOD BACK IN OUR WORLD


61 posted on 12/02/2011 6:56:25 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: BwanaNdege

If you add up what she is talking about it is over $1000 a month in cash and free everything. Over a $1000 a month to party on and get your every need covered free, all without ever working.


62 posted on 12/02/2011 6:57:17 AM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: CowboyJay
A couple grand in moving expenses by the time you figure in rental and utility deposits? That, and places with a job or two are in pretty short supply - unless you're talking about picking up and moving to Asia.

When I moved to California for work a few decades ago, I stayed on an old friend's couch for a month until I settled in.

If you go to an area where there are college students, you can always find a furnished room in a house fairly cheap. Particularly if you show up in June, when the graduating class is moving out, and leaving behind old furniture and stuff.

63 posted on 12/02/2011 6:57:23 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
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To: Daffynition

They’re doing to him what they did to Sarah, and to Herman (and others). They’re taking things out of context, and presenting their spin with a raised eyebrow.

And we’re falling for it. Again.

They’ll destroy EVERY SINGLE Republican candidate by election time, and we’re enabling it. We’ll be left with Mitt, who will lose in the general election.

Yes, Republicans are the stupid party. Attacking our own, based on faulty “evidence.”


64 posted on 12/02/2011 6:57:41 AM PST by Theo (May Rome decrease and Christ increase.)
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To: Daffynition

He’s right. Part of this is because they don’t have working role models, but part of it is because they live in devastated neighborhoods (let’s not get into exactly who devastated them) and there aren’t any of the little jobs we used to do when we were kids - shoveling snow, walking dogs, paper route, delivering groceries, etc.

So the idea of giving them some useful work they can do at school, where they have to go every day anyway, is a good one. Kids at a certain age love to work and they love to show how responsible they are and what a good job they can do - and get praised and compensated for it. That’s what builds good work habits.

One of the reasons it’s hard for poor adolescents, particularly blacks, to get hired is by the time they are teenagers, they have developed absolutely no work habits and employers know that things like showing up on time, staying for a full shift, doing a job well and cooperating with coworkers are going to be things that are completely unknown to them, because they’ve never even done the basic kid-jobs before.


65 posted on 12/02/2011 6:59:47 AM PST by livius
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To: NativeSon

The answer is not giving them government jobs.


66 posted on 12/02/2011 7:01:37 AM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Sacajaweau
"We shoveled drives, cut lawns, had a newspaper route, sold worms, gathered golf balls.... "

Same here, but these days illegals cut the yards and do the paper route. And the golf balls are all from China and to cheap to go hunting for. That does leave worms thou, but the profit is probably a lot better on selling other stuff.

67 posted on 12/02/2011 7:04:57 AM PST by jpsb
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To: Daffynition
Here we go folks......Newt is on top, he must be destroyed.

*There can be only one!

And "they" have picked Slick Mitt to be that one



















*for Highlander fans

68 posted on 12/02/2011 7:05:32 AM PST by CAluvdubya (Cain is not the one that called me "heartless" and "inhumane"! MERRY CHRISTMAS!)
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To: CowboyJay
A couple grand in moving expenses by the time you figure in rental and utility deposits? That, and places with a job or two are in pretty short supply - unless you're talking about picking up and moving to Asia.

I'm not feeling sorry for someone who is given a free education with multiple opportunities for vocational training, apprenticeships and/or internships. There are jobs out there for people who aren't afraid to start at the bottom and work their way up. And it doesn't require a drastic move to start out in one of these entry-level jobs and earn the money to finally escape the gubmint plantation. They don't even need to give up much in government hand-outs at first.

This culture of government dependence has got to be destroyed, and these slaves must be set free to provide for themselves.

70 posted on 12/02/2011 7:07:15 AM PST by EricT. (Is a country that would re-elect Baroke Hussein Owebama really worth saving?)
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To: GeronL
The answer is to cut out all the free stuff, EBT cards, school breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

Go back to nothing but section 8 housing, and gov surplus food that they have to pick up once a month. Good luck trying to sell that for cash.

I doubt you would see so many wanting to spend a lifetime on that.

71 posted on 12/02/2011 7:07:54 AM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: yldstrk
When a person does get a job, sometimes they think “this is how the wealthy got theirs” and corruption occurs, cheating on expense accounts, relieving the employer of their excess office equipment, embezzlement, hand in the till WE NEED GOD BACK IN OUR WORLD

That's still consistent with what Gingrich is saying. They didn't get the job to work, they got the job to get money. Giving someone a job doesn't give them work habits. What's missing is a sense of vocation that makes getting up and going work everyday important to them, because it's what they do.

It's not that complicated, and it doesn't require a global cosmological event to have it.

72 posted on 12/02/2011 7:08:14 AM PST by tacticalogic
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To: Daffynition

How long before we start hearing about Newt wanting to abolish child labor laws and the exploitation of children by greedy capitalists?


73 posted on 12/02/2011 7:10:10 AM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: Daffynition

In my youth, I had a paper route delivering newspapers door to door. And, as a courtesy to my customer’s, I collected these same newspapers and sold them to the local recycle yard. You have to think outside the box.


74 posted on 12/02/2011 7:13:47 AM PST by woodenickel
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To: GeronL

First he is correct as to the problem. Second I heard him tell Greta about this, he wants programs that give inner city kids practical work experience.

CBS is the worst.


75 posted on 12/02/2011 7:15:38 AM PST by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: flaglady47
Before marrying Marianne, Gingrich presented his first wife, Jackie Battley, with the terms of their divorce as she lay in a hospital bed recovering from surgery for uterine cancer.

I'm a Cain person but I feel we really need to stick to the truth here and not perpetrate the LSM lies. This bit of information about Newt is not the truth as per his daughter. She wrote a book and in it stated that this incident is a fabrication.

76 posted on 12/02/2011 7:16:21 AM PST by CAluvdubya (Cain is not the one that called me "heartless" and "inhumane"! MERRY CHRISTMAS!)
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To: Daffynition

Hey, it is what it is.


77 posted on 12/02/2011 7:16:33 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: CowboyJay
Right. Jobs Americans won't do, and all that. Do you people ever poke your noses outside your house?

Do you really think the unemployment numbers fluctuate with the economy, in the areas he's talking about?
78 posted on 12/02/2011 7:16:58 AM PST by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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To: EricT.

I live near Asbury Park, NJ which has a huge underclass. While the males all sell drugs and laze in the front yards of their rentals, their female relatives are working in the giant supermarkets that dominate the area. They work in all the pizza and chicken joints. The point is, that even if your block is a “hellhole,” help is often just a few streets away.

I agree with Newt on this. Why can’t a kid be a packer at Foodtown?


79 posted on 12/02/2011 7:18:07 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Let's have a Cain Mutiny!)
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To: CAluvdubya

“This bit of information about Newt is not the truth as per his daughter. She wrote a book and in it stated that this incident is a fabrication.”

Gee, I wonder why his DAUGHTER might have done that. Could it be because her father is running for President and she wants him to win? Naw, ....


80 posted on 12/02/2011 7:18:52 AM PST by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

Never ever trust CBS. Newt is trying to help inner city kids with jobs not hand outs. His statement is not foolish unless we want to now enter fantasy land that all is well in the cities. Just incredible.


81 posted on 12/02/2011 7:19:27 AM PST by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

Ah! Someone else who remembers this classic series!


82 posted on 12/02/2011 7:19:30 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Let's have a Cain Mutiny!)
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To: tacticalogic

Yeah, well, our culture has come to worship the wrong things.

I am so tired, I don’t know how to fight it with my own kids thinking sex and money is everything and I find myself also wishing for no money stresses, what ever happened to altruism, loyalty, living for others, refusing to take unfair advantage....people think you are daft if you say those things.........


83 posted on 12/02/2011 7:19:30 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: CAluvdubya

P.S., if you are a Cain person, then you have chosen one candidate who is an alleged adulterer, and are defending another one (Newt) that is a known adulterer, 2 times over. Nice choices on your part.


84 posted on 12/02/2011 7:20:21 AM PST by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: cripplecreek

By Newt’s definition you weren’t poor.


85 posted on 12/02/2011 7:20:28 AM PST by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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To: yldstrk

Can you believe now the media will portray Newt as dissing poor kids when he is talking about getting them job skills? And some on here will now pretend Newt Gingrich is blaming the kids he’d like to help. Or that it’s his fault. Oy.


86 posted on 12/02/2011 7:24:30 AM PST by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: flaglady47
if you are a Cain person, then you have chosen one candidate who is an alleged adulterer, and are defending another one (Newt) that is a known adulterer, 2 times over. Nice choices on your part.

okay, gotcha...the truth matters not to you, it's the allegation that's important.

Bless your heart....

87 posted on 12/02/2011 7:24:35 AM PST by CAluvdubya (Cain is not the one that called me "heartless" and "inhumane"! MERRY CHRISTMAS!)
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To: Williams

He wants more government. He wants government make-work jobs.

I am sure he thinks a government jobs program for kids will put a man on mars or something.


88 posted on 12/02/2011 7:26:41 AM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: rwilson99

I doubt anybody in the race really knows what poor is.


89 posted on 12/02/2011 7:27:18 AM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: miss marmelstein

LOL! I remember this series when it was in re-runs on CBN television. My local ABC station has a channel on their digital subcarrier that carries classic TV shows and The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis comes on at 6:30am. LOL


90 posted on 12/02/2011 7:27:44 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (You have entered an invalid birthday)
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To: RockinRight

I am sure Newt will come up with a government program to solve this. Newt is not a conservative on ANY issue. Frankly, he is a leftist on every single domestic issue.


91 posted on 12/02/2011 7:28:18 AM PST by Gipper08 (www.travishankins.com...a real CONSERVATIVE)
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To: Daffynition
Here is something newt said today on abc... and it should concern every one of you. He was asked about his not attacking other republican candidates and newt made his statement again and he then... EXACTLY AS mccain did... he said that he "WOULD BE THE NOMINEE"... and that this coming election WOULD NOT BE A REFERENDUM ON obama... it would NOT BE ABOUT obama... that he was not going to attack obama etc etc etc... same as mccain did. We know exactly how that worked out for mccain. newt is embracing the failed politics of the high road... just like Bush and his “NEW TONE” garbage.

I had to read post after post by those trying to rationalize mccain... they said the high road is the right path... that we are better than the dims... well that is a false premise... you cannot win a fight without landing blows and if you refuse to fight... you will get the crap beat out of yourself.

If newt is nominated... he will be destroyed in the media while he will refuse to fight obama down in the gutter where obama lives.

AS RICK FLAIR SAYS... AND RICK IS A WINNER AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN... “TO BE THE MAN... YOU GOTTA BEAT THE MAN”. You cannot beat a political opponent by refusing to point out his weaknesses and failures... and with obamao... those are huge and are both PERSONAL and POLITICAL. I cannot believe how blind some Conservatives are.

LLS

92 posted on 12/02/2011 7:28:51 AM PST by LibLieSlayer ("Americans are hungry to feel once again a sense of mission and greatness." Ronaldo Magnus)
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To: cripplecreek

I don’t know about the others but I think Cain and Bachmann know what it’s like being poor.


93 posted on 12/02/2011 7:29:59 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (You have entered an invalid birthday)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

I’m old enough to remember it on its initial run.

Work? WORK????


94 posted on 12/02/2011 7:31:20 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Let's have a Cain Mutiny!)
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To: CAluvdubya

okay, gotcha...the truth matters not to you, it’s the allegation that’s important.

Newt’s adulterous affairs are well documented, for years now. I see you have your blinders on.


95 posted on 12/02/2011 7:32:06 AM PST by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: jtal

Bingo Bingo Bingo. CBS is the worst and some Freepers need to get their heads out of their asses.

Which is it now? Gingrich is a flaming liberal but he insults poor people for not working?

Reality: he is talking about getting kids some work for $$ experience rather than a handout. CBS is evil and will use pretzel like logic to deny the kids such help. Now Newt is their enemy for wanting to help them develop good work habits!


96 posted on 12/02/2011 7:32:33 AM PST by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: EricT.
"I'm not feeling sorry for someone who is given a free education with multiple opportunities for vocational training, apprenticeships and/or internships"

Back in the 80s or early 90s, I'd have agreed with you. The job market in this country just isn't what it was twenty (or even five) years ago.
97 posted on 12/02/2011 7:33:07 AM PST by CowboyJay (Generic Republican - 2012. He's the only 'electable' candidate.)
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To: flaglady47
P.S., if you are a Cain person, then you have chosen one candidate who is an alleged adulterer, and are defending another one (Newt) that is a known adulterer, 2 times over. Nice choices on your part.

Seems to me that we expect more out of today's politicians personal lives than our nation's founders could have mustered.
98 posted on 12/02/2011 7:34:00 AM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: cripplecreek
I doubt anybody in the race really knows what poor is.

I would wonder how many of the so called poor in this country, really knows what poor is.
99 posted on 12/02/2011 7:34:42 AM PST by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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To: Beagle8U

Uh section 8 housing is a cancer esp under Obama.


100 posted on 12/02/2011 7:35:05 AM PST by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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