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Cain to End Candidacy Tomorrow? (Major Announcement tomorrow.)
Big Government ^

Posted on 12/02/2011 11:35:32 AM PST by sunmars

Embattled presidential candidate Herman Cain is inviting his top supporters and donors to Atlanta on Saturday for a meeting in which he will give them advance word of whether he intends to continue his campaign, sources close to the campaign said Friday.

One supporter who has been summoned to the private session said he believes that Cain is likely to announce he is ending his candidacy.

Another who has been invited to the morning meeting says attendees have been told he has made no decision, but wanted to meet with some of the supporters to express his gratitude.

Several sources indicated that Cain is likely to announce his plans publicly at a news conference after the meeting. Cain had already scheduled an event on Saturday — the grand opening of his national headquarters in his hometown of Atlanta, as well as the announcement of his campaign’s freshly minted senior leadership team for the state of Georgia.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: bigbucks; cain; cainwreck; conspiracy; gingrich; hermancain; newt; rinovictory; wehangseparately
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To: sunmars

If Cain drops out, the Obama-Axelrod Smear Machine will turn to their next victim, flush with victory.


201 posted on 12/02/2011 6:54:16 PM PST by Arthur McGowan (In Edward Kennedy's America, federal funding of brothels is a right, not a privilege.)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

I haven’t forgiven Cain for tring to blame Rick Perry. He knew darn well Rick Perry had nothing to do with the leaks but he continued to blame him.

Cain was extremely ugly to Perry all along from dissing him as a racist on Meet the Press to his insistance that Perry was responsible for his babe problem.

I don’t feel much sympathy because my candidate has been unfairly accused of stuff that he actually didn’t do.


202 posted on 12/02/2011 6:57:05 PM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: Arthur McGowan
If Cain drops out, the Obama-Axelrod Smear Machine will turn to their next victim, flush with victory.

I'm not so sure. I think they believe they can beat either Gingrich or Romney and will leave them alone until the general. If someone like Perry would pick up steam again, I think they might go after him.

203 posted on 12/02/2011 6:58:43 PM PST by Prokopton
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Yes, Perry would be a fine president.

He has a proven record of accomplishment in Texas and is a hundred percent conservative.

I cannot understand why so many people on this forum have dismissed him.

You’d better believe there is nothing in his past to trip him up, or the dems, libs and lib press in Texas would have discovered it long ago.


204 posted on 12/02/2011 7:03:54 PM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: altura

And the media-Chicago thugocracy can do to any of them exactly what they did to Cain.

You don’t seem to get it. It doesn’t even matter who the candidate is or what they’ve done. What matters is what lies the Obama people can get to stick. As long as we step right into the doo-doo they put in our path, it’s all going to end badly.

I’m not idolizing Cain or any candidate. Everybody is fallible. I just see the marriage of the media and Axelrod’s Chicago as dangerous to the very existence of this nation, and I see nobody who is willing to take them head-on.

To be truthful, as I watch what’s going on I see a lot of people who make me fear that this nation has never been as great as I thought it was. Maybe we’re just a pitiful sack of excrement and we should be glad that the place is coming to ruins.

How’s that for good cheer.


205 posted on 12/02/2011 7:04:40 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

Well, you may have noticed that, in Perry’s case, no bimbo came forward.


206 posted on 12/02/2011 7:05:51 PM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: Prokopton

So anybody who doesn’t have videotapes of every minute of their life isn’t prepared - because if there’s any one minute that is unaccounted for, the creeps and crooks can invent some heinous act and claim that you did it then - and unless you can prove them wrong you are just as guilty as if you had actually done what they claimed.

Right?


207 posted on 12/02/2011 7:10:11 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

They can try to bring any candidate down and I’m sure they will.

And, I’m really sorry because I can read your hurt and disappointment, but they could not have brought Cain down if there was nothing there.


208 posted on 12/02/2011 7:12:04 PM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: TennesseeProfessor
"What does surprise me is that everyone who is dropping their support for Cain for his possible affair is moving to Newt who definitely had one."

They are dropping because his campaign is floundering, not"because he had an affair." It still is not clear that he had an affair. She has no pics? She can't name time and place in the last 13 years? How come the press in all these appearances NEVER ASKS these obvious questions. Without her giving specifics, there is no way to prove an affair actually occurred. I communicate with women many times a day without telling my wife. So what? It's business and connections that one keeps up in his line of work. The only thing on him is that he (the guy with the rather large allowance because he's rich) gave her some money. That's it. Should he have told his wife? Yes.

209 posted on 12/02/2011 7:13:07 PM PST by cookcounty (2012 choice: It's the Tea Party or the Slumber Party.)
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To: Yaelle
"I hope he rips the biased MSM a new one!",

That is what I would like to see.

210 posted on 12/02/2011 7:14:51 PM PST by cookcounty (2012 choice: It's the Tea Party or the Slumber Party.)
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To: altura
in Perry’s case, no bimbo came forward.

Well, they aren't done throwing them at Cain yet.

They would wait until Perry has the nomination before they start destroying him.

211 posted on 12/02/2011 7:14:51 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: cardinal4
"Im sick about this. I dont like any of the other candidates. This is the Elites way of saying “Romney!”

Laura Ingraham this morning was in a near panic that the primaries might begin without the nominee already being decided, and the nominee might end up being selected by the people instead of the the press and pundits which she believes is their God-given right. Dartmouth girl, she thinks she's superior to the rest of us. Her and Harvard Hugh, both of them in a snit. I used to like them, but they're just Ivy League elitist snobs like the rest.

WHY do we have to have the nominee selected 10 freaking months before the election? If I could wave my wand and have one Constitutional Amendment pass (other than the Life Amendment), it would be that no primaries take place before June. The Eternal Campaign is not a good idea.

212 posted on 12/02/2011 7:24:21 PM PST by cookcounty (2012 choice: It's the Tea Party or the Slumber Party.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

They can’t destroy Perry with bimbos.

They can distort his record, which has been done in spades, but he can refute that with the truth.

Rick Perry has fought the dems, the libs and the lib press in Texas and none of them has been able to find a bimbo.

And have you seen Anita? She’s adorable.


213 posted on 12/02/2011 7:32:42 PM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: altura

I liked Perry also, but I don’t want to be a part of a party that basically turned its back on a conservative and gave us a choice between two different CINOs.

I’ll go third party or just ignore politics altogether if Cain gets done in like this, before even a single vote is cast.


214 posted on 12/02/2011 7:33:54 PM PST by Apollo5600 (Cain 2012)
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To: altura
They can’t destroy Perry with bimbos.

Well of course they can. Nobody says it has to be true. Just cast doubt in the minds of voters...and pay off the lying ACORN operatives.

And have you seen Anita? She’s adorable.

Yes she is...all the more reason they can. See if they can get her fretting, wondering if it's true.

Sad.

Perception is everything.

215 posted on 12/02/2011 7:39:27 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: butterdezillion
anybody who doesn’t have videotapes of every minute of their life isn’t prepared - because if there’s any one minute that is unaccounted for, the creeps and crooks can invent some heinous act and claim that you did it then - and unless you can prove them wrong you are just as guilty as if you had actually done what they claimed. Right?

You have to have an honest assessment of your weaknesses and failures and prepare on how your going to confront the accusations when they, inevitably, come out. This is a high stakes war. If you don't want to train and prepare and then fight, stay at home.

216 posted on 12/02/2011 7:41:34 PM PST by Prokopton
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To: cookcounty

“I hope he rips the biased MSM a new one!”,
That is what I would like to see.


The time to do that was THE instant that the first allegation was dropped. Let it be a lesson to future candidates (who have nothing to hide). I’ve been a big Cain supporter but I know how I would have responded if I was him and I was innocent of the charges. The gloves would ‘ve been off immediately. Herman still has his gloves on.


217 posted on 12/02/2011 7:52:45 PM PST by Mr. Fabtastic (Cain is rapidly gaining on Fred Gwynne as my favorite Herman.)
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To: Apollo5600

Americans don’t elect rank amateurs president. They have always demanded some experience in getting elected to public office for their presidents. Why in the world would you think Cain was an exception? Victorious leadership in war is the only exception. And I am not talking about the Pizza Wars.

And why in the world would Cain think he can start at the top?


218 posted on 12/02/2011 7:54:49 PM PST by arrogantsob (Obama must Go.)
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To: cookcounty

Laura Ingraham? The same one who claims to be conservative yet often turns over her show to her ‘good pal’ Tammy Bruce, the pro abortion lesbian? That Laura Ingraham?


219 posted on 12/02/2011 7:57:16 PM PST by Mr. Fabtastic (Cain is rapidly gaining on Fred Gwynne as my favorite Herman.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Politics is a profession and demands professionals. In America it has ALWAYS been a profession. Plato called political science the highest art.

Leadership has to arise and survive through political struggle, Cain had none of the experience necessary to stay credible.

People are so desperate for conservatives that they will grasp on any new face even those which will be of on lasting consequence. Cain couldn’t even win a Senate seat from Georgia. Why in the world would serious people think he could win the nomination?

He had best go away quietly.


220 posted on 12/02/2011 8:00:22 PM PST by arrogantsob (Obama must Go.)
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To: JohnBovenmyer

You are living in a dream world. No one feared Cain least of all Obama. It reeks alright but from Cain’s stinking mess.


221 posted on 12/02/2011 8:02:36 PM PST by arrogantsob (Obama must Go.)
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To: arrogantsob
Americans don’t elect rank amateurs president. They have always demanded some experience in getting elected to public office for their presidents.

So from that comment, I deduce that you consider community organizing acceptable experience to be POTUS?

222 posted on 12/02/2011 8:03:12 PM PST by SamAdams76 (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: arrogantsob
yo arrogant!!!

Just how in the he!! did B. Hussein Obama get elected??? what experience did he have?? clue us in PLEASE...

If Cain should drop OUT...that would be the primary reason NO ONE should donate hard earned dollars to Politicians..let them earn those donated dollars...

I refuse to donate anything to anyone until it comes down to ONE person..The media in this country should hang their heads in shame... For the first time in my 69 years I am truly ashamed of what has become of our Political System and the pussies who make up this Government!!!!!!!!!!!

223 posted on 12/02/2011 8:04:51 PM PST by haircutter
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To: Yaelle

I am more concerned about his lack of knowledge in foreign affairs such as that leading him to think Syria exported oil as he stated during the last debate. His proposed solution to the Syrian crisis was hysterically nonsensical.


224 posted on 12/02/2011 8:06:24 PM PST by arrogantsob (Obama must Go.)
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To: Arthur McGowan
First of all, he is not dropping out.

And secondly, yes, the Obama/MSM/Axelrod vicious ad hominem attack machine--thereupon megaphoned and amplified by the RINO establishment--is now going to go after the next conservative candidates in earnest. They will just have to multi-task their skullduggery with Herman Cain still in the race, but others also in contention, needing such salacious personal attacks and the attempted erosion of their base support through mudslinging and Goebbels "Big Lie". Sad to say, the next "frozen targets" may not get much solace from me, if their supporters were so jubiliant at the first individual hanging, over the last six weeks. They will just go down the the line and character assassinate each GOP candidate one by one. To even let them get past Victim Number One in the first place, by countenancing it in any way or assisting it, should be a scourge of shame upon conservatives for many years. We are not talking Larry Craig here. We are not talking Jon Hinson. We are talking unvalidated hearsay ginned up by a horrific liberal power elite machine, backed up by the likes of GLORIA ALLRED, ESQ. That tells you something right there.

All along, people (including Freepers) had one of two choices on this thing on how to react. To either stop it in its tracks and send it packing for the rest of the 2012 season, or embolden it and enable it, to prove that it as a method works to those who concocted it as a desperate last ditch attempt to keep Obama as our Overlord for four, or maybe even more years--under Martial Law.

What else is there left to say? Really.

225 posted on 12/02/2011 8:17:39 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Cain: 1st Victim of 2012 Obama Camp's Smear Machine's PROOF OF CONCEPT Effort. Did You Assist Them?)
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To: sunmars

I hope he stays in. I can understand if he doesn’t particularly because of the hell it is putting his wife and kids through...but I hope he stays in because I feel the charges are bogus and giving in will embolden those who would find anyone to accuse others of these types of things and try and ruin their credibility and campaigns...and thus choose who aour candidates are.


226 posted on 12/02/2011 8:22:41 PM PST by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: altura

Many of us do not particularly enjoy being labeled as “heartless” when all we do is simply oppose taxpayer funded benefits for illegal aliens (tuition breaks, etc), or the contents of say the Governor’s on-record comments to the racist, anti-American “La Raza” organization. We had that kind of judgmental moderate diatribe shoved in our faces by the likes of John McCain, Lindsay Graham and George W. Bush under the auspices of “Compassionate Conservatism” and I will be straight with you to let you know their are millions of bedrock Conservative GOP members who do not appreciate the insinuation nor the charge very much at all.


227 posted on 12/02/2011 8:23:28 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Cain: 1st Victim of 2012 Obama Camp's Smear Machine's PROOF OF CONCEPT Effort. Did You Assist Them?)
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To: stillafreemind

You’re just lashing out cuz you know you didn’t do one thing for Cain except bloviate. Easy to hide behind your user name, isn’t it, safm?
A man’s character is reflected by his actions and from what I can tell, you prefer to sit on your mother’s couch with oatmeal dripping down your shirt, watching TV. LOL.


228 posted on 12/02/2011 8:33:21 PM PST by Mountain Mary (One Nation Under God...There I said it.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
The thing is, other candidates could be white as the driven snow with respect to woman-problems.

Does not matter.

THEY WILL MAKE IT UP.

THEY JUST DID. And it seems to be working.

This is their enabling. This is their emboldenment. This is what I mean by "they established their proof of concept". They had an attack model with its first test. They watched to see if it would stick and damage somebody even if ginned up, Soviet-like. (This was common under Stalin and others to remove people from public life).

And another thing about that Laura Ingraham. She is really walking on thin ice. I am considering doing an extensive thought piece on FR as a "Vanity" taking this individual's own words calling for a more "moral America" in her now meaningless, hypocritical best sellers, in the context of her own recent verbal behavior before millions in a live audience on the Herman Cain character assassination/mudslinging matter(s), against the context of larger biblical principles. This one really needs to go to a retreat for a week and reflect on her salacious mouth upon the reputations of others and their families and our open electoral political system where the "Great Unwashed" People not the Elites (like her of course) should choose.

229 posted on 12/02/2011 8:34:08 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Cain: 1st Victim of 2012 Obama Camp's Smear Machine's PROOF OF CONCEPT Effort. Did You Assist Them?)
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To: ichabod1

I disagree with perry on immigration but newt is worse. I wish perry could get back up there. I prefer him to Romney and newt. I hold out some hope that Cain will live to fight another day.


230 posted on 12/02/2011 8:35:58 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: arrogantsob
I am more concerned about his lack of knowledge in foreign affairs such as that leading him to think Syria exported oil as he stated during the last debate

Oops! Syria does export oil. You should be concerned about your own embarrassing lack of knowledge. Wow you look stupid
231 posted on 12/02/2011 8:39:25 PM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: AmericanInTokyo; All

Take your pick:

1) The big lie.

2) Perception is everything.

3) The ends justify the means.

4) Don’t defeat your opponent...destroy him.


232 posted on 12/02/2011 8:40:09 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: haircutter

“Just how in the he!! did B. Hussein Obama get elected??? what experience did he have?? clue us in PLEASE...”Sure, I’m always happy to educate. Urkel had multiple elections to the Illinois legislature (a hotbed of wisdom and foresight) and one to a statewide office, the US Senate. One of my criticisms, in addition to him being a Commie crook, was that he did not have enough political experience to be president. He had less than the average president and it shows every day.

Cain has far less than even Urkel. He has NONE. Not good.

Urkel’s elections were attained with the standard RAT tactics of destroying your opponent by having them removed from the ballot or forcing their withdrawal by having (somehow) divorce records unsealed and made public thereby attacking a family and ballot box stuffing by deadbeats and professional election thieves. But they were elections and stand as victories. And they are examples of thousands upon thousands of elections held throughout the history of this county. Elections wherein votes used to be bought for a drink, wherein votes were/are brought out of Old folks homes from people who don’t know what their names are, out of Public Housing where they do what the Precinct Captain says, the Union where they just do what the Labor Bosses say.

But as ludicrous as all this is, it is still the best system available. Cain means little in such a background so don’t get hysterical over his demise.

People elect winners. Cain has never won.

Learn a little history of this nation’s politics and you will find that it was never the rosy scenario you apparently see it in. Politics for a hundred years revolved around the right of one group of men to actually enslave another group of men. It wasn’t even disguised. And it was even bare knuckle. The Great Hamilton was murdered in a “duel” because of his political actions. Newspapers made no bones about which party or candidate it supported and gleefully used any material available to destroy the opposition. The Great Hamilton had an old affair dredged up by Jefferson’s minions and had his political life ruined irrevocably. Madison lost an election one time because he refused to provide a barrel of whiskey to the polling place on election day.

Class warfare emerged clearly by 1800 when Jefferson led attacks on the banks and the “aristocracy”. Class warfare has always worked on the ignorant or envious voter. Nothing new.

Our problems today are great and our people’s ability to recognize them and support viable solutions to them is small. Herman Cain is a symptom of the utter desperation people feel and the willingness to follow a man without a particle of experience in dealing with those problems.

There is a reason I call the media the “Treason Media”. But with Cain all it did was follow the trail a little. It rarely uncovers anything of its own volition. It happily reported what fell in its lap about Cain but consistently refuses to investigate Urkel’s background.


233 posted on 12/02/2011 8:45:51 PM PST by arrogantsob (Obama must Go.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

post 225 - Extremely well said.

Template is now set by the enemy and validated by our side.

It’s not Cain they are laughing at tonight it is us.


234 posted on 12/02/2011 8:46:27 PM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: Arthur McGowan

Said Smear Machine would have waited till Cain got the nomination before nailing him to the Wall. Doesn’t seem like this is the source of the slime.

And as Mr. Dooley said “Politics ain’t beanball.”


235 posted on 12/02/2011 8:48:12 PM PST by arrogantsob (Obama must Go.)
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To: arrogantsob
I am more concerned about his lack of knowledge in foreign affairs such as that leading him to think Syria exported oil as he stated during the last debate. His proposed solution to the Syrian crisis was hysterically nonsensical.

I guess you didn't read the article and FR thread about Royal Dutch Shell ceasing operations in Syria due to European sanctions.

236 posted on 12/02/2011 8:49:09 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: over3Owithabrain

Syria is a net importer of oil. Saddam provided much of its needs until his overthrow. Iraqi oil is exported through Syria I believe. And was.


237 posted on 12/02/2011 8:51:22 PM PST by arrogantsob (Obama must Go.)
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To: haircutter
Just how in the he!! did B. Hussein Obama get elected???

We ran John McLame against him. Need I say more?

238 posted on 12/02/2011 8:53:13 PM PST by kevao
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To: ROCKLOBSTER; arrogantsob

You mean today’s news? We were talking Cain at the past debate buddinski. And there are other oil companies in Syria. They export oil - Cain right, arrogantsob WRONG

So nice try defending arrogantsob who made himself look extremely stupid while calling Cain dumb.


239 posted on 12/02/2011 8:53:59 PM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: arrogantsob

Dude you were wrong. Just admit it.

In your pompous haste to call Cain dumb you stepped in it and showed your azz.

Another keyboard know it all lol


240 posted on 12/02/2011 8:56:54 PM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: SamAdams76

I understand that most people know little of the real Urkel but some of us do know that his “community organizing” was mainly directed at organizing his election to the offices he held prior to winning the presidency.

It is a form of precinct work which is standard practice in American politics.

Urkel’s presidency has reflected the weakness of that experience which was basically extortion.


241 posted on 12/02/2011 9:00:55 PM PST by arrogantsob (Obama must Go.)
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To: over3Owithabrain

You are correct as was Herman. Syria does export a small amount of oil it appears mainly for the foreign exchange. Ironically it might not hurt for that oil to stay in Syria so I still don’t believe sanctions would work. And the EU just put them on.

“You should be concerned about your own embarrassing lack of knowledge.” I am, I was misinformed by mysterious people. “Wow you look stupid.” Unfortunately, it wasn’t the first time and won’t be the last.


242 posted on 12/02/2011 9:06:12 PM PST by arrogantsob (Obama must Go.)
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To: over3Owithabrain
You mean today’s news?

Yes

We were talking Cain at the past debate buddinski.

I know.

And there are other oil companies in Syria. They export oil - Cain right, arrogantsob WRONG

Nice work Sherlock

So nice try defending arrogantsob

WRONG, go back and read it. I was making the point that they had been exporting oil. not defending SOB.

who made himself look extremely stupid while calling Cain dumb.

Right, and now you've made yourself look stoopid by attacking me.

243 posted on 12/02/2011 9:06:47 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Nope. See 242.


244 posted on 12/02/2011 9:09:25 PM PST by arrogantsob (Obama must Go.)
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To: over3Owithabrain

Rocky wasn’t defending me just educating me.


245 posted on 12/02/2011 9:11:03 PM PST by arrogantsob (Obama must Go.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Cain has never been elected to public office. Hence his shockingly dismal vetting experience. Blind faith and wishful thinking can’t cover a presidential candidates weaknesses. Sadly he remains guilty till proven innocent. Tango Sierra!


246 posted on 12/02/2011 9:16:05 PM PST by Broker (Beware of Community Organizer in Chief!)
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To: arrogantsob; ROCKLOBSTER

mea culpa accepted, arrogant. Anybody can get a fact like that wrong. But shows we should be careful calling candidates dumb so cavalierly.

lobster = i offer you my mea culpa. thought you were addressing me initially I read the reply name wrong. my bad


247 posted on 12/02/2011 9:23:15 PM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: over3Owithabrain

My statement was based on the situation as it existed around the time we were starting to go after Saddam so my knowledge of that had not been updated since then. Now that is definitely stupid. It wasn’t yesterday.

And who knows if it was just media BS in any case but it was definitely claiming Syria was dependent on a deal worked out with Saddam for its oil needs. Maybe as part of the “Oil for Peace” program the UN allowed. In reality it was the “Oil for Palaces” program and, of course, completely corrupt.

Cain is not dumb by any stretch. He is not politically experienced and that is not good. I would take him over Urkel a thousand times over.


248 posted on 12/02/2011 9:33:14 PM PST by arrogantsob (Obama must Go.)
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To: CARTOUCHE
When you run inept campaigns you get ignored as well you should.

Everyone laughed at Newt for running an inept campaign. And yet, he's now the frontrunnner.

Everyone lauded Robomney for running a slick, professional campaign and he can barely get above 20% in the polls despite running for five years and spending 10s of millions of dollars.

Methinks you should revisit your "logic".
249 posted on 12/02/2011 9:43:43 PM PST by Antoninus (Take the pledge: I will not vote for Mitt Romney under any circumstances. EVER.)
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To: Hunton Peck

Run as a third party candidate.


250 posted on 12/02/2011 9:47:12 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (To fix government, we need a rocket scientist. Oh, wait we have one!)
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