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Huntsman to skip Iowa debate, plans NH town hall (will do a Lincoln-Douglas debate with Gingrich)
sfgate ^ | 12/2/2011 | AP

Posted on 12/02/2011 1:15:05 PM PST by TBBT

Former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman is skipping next week's presidential primary debate in Iowa. ABC is to televise the event nationally. Huntsman on Friday says he'll instead have a town hall-style meeting on Dec. 10 in New Hampshire, a state that is central to his political strategy. Huntsman has written-off Iowa and has spent neither time nor money there. Huntsman also has accepted an invitation to do a one-on-one debate with former House Speaker Newt Gingrich in New Hampshire. The two will meet in Windham for a Lincoln-Douglas-style debate with tea party activists on Dec. 12. Gingrich has invited each of his rivals for one-on-one conversations.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa; US: New Hampshire; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: cowardromneyducks; huntsman; jonhuntsman; littlebabymittens; loserromney; newhampshire; newt; romneyalwaysafraid; romneyhiding; romneythechicken; romneythecoward; romneytheweak; romneytheyellow; utah; yellowromneyhides
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Interesting... Romney chickened out of the one on one with Newt... Huntsman figures - I guess - that he's got nothing to lose and it's an opportunity for more face time.

Wonder how Huntsman's performance in NH impacts Romney...?

Wonder if Newt will be able to get any of the others to do the Lincoln-Douglas sit down...?

1 posted on 12/02/2011 1:15:16 PM PST by TBBT
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To: TBBT

Looks like Newt’s gonna do a 1on1 with his future VP. Couple of RINO drek!


2 posted on 12/02/2011 1:19:57 PM PST by bigdirty
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To: TBBT

Strategic mistake on Newt’s part. Letting Huntsman on stage with him one on one raises his stature on a par with Newt’s, albeit just for one night. Why give him a hand up when he is stuck in last place?


3 posted on 12/02/2011 1:20:26 PM PST by ez ("Abashed the Devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton, "Paradise Lost")
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To: TBBT

Maybe Huntsman’s gesture will take votes away from Romney. Wouldn’t it be awesome if Romney finished 3rd in NH?


4 posted on 12/02/2011 1:21:09 PM PST by wolfman23601
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To: ez

Yeah, and Huntsman’s not going to be an ignorant suck-up like Cain was.


5 posted on 12/02/2011 1:22:11 PM PST by Huck (LIBERTY is the object.)
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To: TBBT

Say what you want about Gingrich, his style of campaigning is impressive to watch.


6 posted on 12/02/2011 1:22:21 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper (1/3/2012-Iowa 1/10-Newt Hampshire 1/21-South Carolina 1/31-Florida)
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To: TBBT
Wonder if Newt will be able to get any of the others to do the Lincoln-Douglas sit down...?

Why bother. Everyone knows Newt is good in the debates. The candidates are better served telling Newt to screw and get out there and run their own campaigns. The only one helped by these things is the man pushing them. If Newt thinks he is getting Obummer to one of these, he is more out of his mind than it first appeared.

7 posted on 12/02/2011 1:22:35 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Huck

I agree that was disappointing. Huntsman and Gingrich should be good.


8 posted on 12/02/2011 1:23:48 PM PST by DManA
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To: Huck

Huntsman is a lot sharper than Cain...we’ll see how Newt handles it...better matchup...


9 posted on 12/02/2011 1:24:31 PM PST by magritte
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To: Lazlo in PA

Yes, but if most of the R candidats agree to it, and then Obama won’t, it makes Obama look weak and frightened.


10 posted on 12/02/2011 1:25:01 PM PST by ez ("Abashed the Devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton, "Paradise Lost")
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To: TBBT; All

Get on the SENATE races, we are dead freepers, we are going to see 3rd 4th 5th 6th parties entering the presidential.

GIG IS UP!!! Newt is the head squish...

Support your GOP Senators now...


11 posted on 12/02/2011 1:25:31 PM PST by Fred (Newt Gring(rich) has the tongue OF Obama and the prick of Clinton!)
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To: magritte

Any time Newt has a microphone, it’s a risky situation for him. We’ll see if any news is made. For Huntsman, it’s a no-brainer. Nothing to lose, everything to gain, even though he’ll never catch on with the base.


12 posted on 12/02/2011 1:26:29 PM PST by Huck (LIBERTY is the object.)
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To: TBBT

I would go Hunstman any day compared to the narcissist and pompous a** Newt.


13 posted on 12/02/2011 1:26:42 PM PST by indianrightwinger
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To: ez

“Why give him a hand up when he is stuck in last place?”

He made the offer to all of them.


14 posted on 12/02/2011 1:27:07 PM PST by jessduntno ("They say the world has become too complex for simple answers... they are wrong." - RR)
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To: TBBT

Questionable strategy by Newt. He elevates Huntsman who can really benefit from the exposure, and he also opens himself up to attack from Huntsman - no doubt Huntsman will look for opportunities to draw blood.

However, this setup is right in Gingrich’s wheelhouse. There’s no one better in a debate format than Gingrich - especially one where the moderator’s role is limited and the candidates have free reign more or less.

This will make good TV!


15 posted on 12/02/2011 1:28:40 PM PST by St. Louis Conservative
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To: Fred

You may be on to something with that comment. I hate to agree with it, but there is no choice.


16 posted on 12/02/2011 1:29:00 PM PST by indianrightwinger
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To: TBBT

The only reason I can see for Newt to elevate Huntsman is so that he can cut into Romney’s NH advantage.

Smart gambit on Newt’s part.


17 posted on 12/02/2011 1:30:30 PM PST by Retired Greyhound (.)
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To: Huck

The funny thing is that Huntsman is a pretty conservative fellow...unfortunately, he bit on the “serve your country” China thing with Obama and now is dead to Conservatives...


18 posted on 12/02/2011 1:30:50 PM PST by magritte
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To: ez
...it makes Obama look weak and frightened.

There will be absolutely nothing for him to gain in a debate like this. Obummer would rather be thought of a weak than proved it.

19 posted on 12/02/2011 1:31:45 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: TBBT

As much as I don’t like Newt, I would sit back with popcorn and enjoy a Lincoln-Douglas debate between the Newtster and the Cretin-in-Chief.

The term “fish in a barrel” comes to mind.


20 posted on 12/02/2011 1:34:13 PM PST by Da Coyote (Liberalism - when you absolutely, positively have no ability to produce wealth.)
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To: TBBT

I realized this morning who Huntsman reminds me of: Mr. Rogers.
Oh, and I watched a long news segment on Romney last night, probably 25 or more pictures in different situations flashed during the piece, everyone of these shots he had a white dress shirt on. Has anyone seen Romney in anything but a white shirt and dark pants?


21 posted on 12/02/2011 1:36:54 PM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)
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To: TBBT
Maybe we need a third party, but NOT at this juncture in history...it's too big of a risk to get obama back again.

Remember, without Perot, we would not have had bill clinton....I learned my lesson on that one, but good.
22 posted on 12/02/2011 1:39:54 PM PST by FrankR (What you resist...PERSISTS!)
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To: TBBT

WHO is he?????


23 posted on 12/02/2011 1:42:55 PM PST by THE_RAIDER (http://www.redstate.com/erick/2011/10/05/the-occupy-wall-street-fools/)
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To: Huck
Nothing to lose, everything to gain, even though he’ll never catch on with the base.


24 posted on 12/02/2011 1:43:01 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: magritte

Yeah, I think he’s also into cap and trade, which is not good.


25 posted on 12/02/2011 1:43:49 PM PST by Huck (LIBERTY is the object.)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

“He elevates Huntsman who can really benefit from the exposure”

This is good. Huntsman is more conservative than Gingrich.

Huntsman’s got nothing to lose and will probably go in packed with grenades.

It’s a win/win. Best case scenario: they both self destruct. Worst case scenario: Newt wins and steals Huntsman’s supporters which gives him a 1% bump in the polls.


26 posted on 12/02/2011 1:44:01 PM PST by BarnacleCenturion (Heartless & Inhumane)
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To: Huck

You could have said the same thing about McCain in 2008, however he still won, over the LOUD objections of many conservatives (especially those here on FR).

But it’s different with Huntsman, as Huntsman is FAR more conservative than McCain, and more conservative than Mitt & Newt. He can win.


27 posted on 12/02/2011 2:01:38 PM PST by St. Louis Conservative
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To: magritte

The funny thing is that Huntsman is a pretty conservative fellow...unfortunately, he bit on the “serve your country” China thing with Obama and now is dead to Conservatives...

I agree. But it could be that Huntsman was thinking what a great opportunity for his family to live in another country and with him being Ambassador of China although important I still don’t think it was as bad as Newt sitting down with Nancy over Global Warming. I mean if Huntsman was a complete conservative (I am not sure of his pro-life status), I would support Huntsman over Newt.


28 posted on 12/02/2011 2:04:37 PM PST by napscoordinator (Anybody but Romney, Newt, Perry, Huntsman, Paul. Perry and Obama are 100 percent the same!!!!!)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

He can’t win.


29 posted on 12/02/2011 2:05:33 PM PST by Huck (LIBERTY is the object.)
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To: TBBT

Hey, what does Huntsman have to lose?

I think he is a bigger RINO than any of our other candidates. Hell, folks, he WENT TO WORK FOR HUSSEIN.


30 posted on 12/02/2011 2:17:34 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: TBBT

Geez, Newt, stoop much to conquer? Be better off debating Snakehead or Axelrot...


31 posted on 12/02/2011 2:30:11 PM PST by StAnDeliver (=)
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To: ez
"Why give him a hand up when he is stuck in last place?"

To flood the zone with RINO hamburger ... If Huntz comes off even just ok against Gingrich it hurts Mittens ...

32 posted on 12/02/2011 2:33:23 PM PST by StAnDeliver (=)
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To: St. Louis Conservative
"no doubt Huntsman will look for opportunities to draw blood."

What, by opening a vein and bleeding all over himself? Newt knows Huntsman sux rocks...better sport would have been had debating a Presidential-candidate blast-from-the-past like Buchanan...

33 posted on 12/02/2011 2:38:21 PM PST by StAnDeliver (=)
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To: TBBT

The coward Romney FLED Massachusetts, and
now has fled NH and this debate
to hide like the little girl Mitt really is,
while his surrogates protect him.


34 posted on 12/02/2011 2:39:07 PM PST by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: StAnDeliver

Hunty is gonna stand and deliver.


35 posted on 12/02/2011 2:49:05 PM PST by St. Louis Conservative
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Why not? Huntsman, if he surges, would draw more from Romney than anyone else, IMHO.


36 posted on 12/02/2011 2:53:50 PM PST by RockinRight (If you're waiting to drink until you find pure water, you're going to die of dehydration.)
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To: Diogenesis

You’re gonna knock off the keyword language or get suspended.


37 posted on 12/02/2011 2:59:32 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: TBBT
With THREE debates in Iowa in a 9 day window, there's no reason Huntsman shouldn't skip one with Iowa not part of his "strategy."

I hope Newt stays composed. Huntsman has a knack for groan-eliciting jab attempts.

38 posted on 12/02/2011 3:10:15 PM PST by newzjunkey (Republicans will find a way to reelect Obama and Speaker Pelosi.)
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To: Huck

He is against cap and trade. Look it up. :)


39 posted on 12/02/2011 3:25:53 PM PST by erlayman
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To: TBBT
I think Romney screwed up on this one. Right now, it is Romney vs. Gingrich, and Iowa is fast approaching. If these one-on-one debates became the norm over the next few months, it would set a precedent which could carry forward to the general election. Obama would be crushed in such a one-on-one format, either by Gingrich or Romney.

Does anyone remember the Saddleback debate? Obama one-on-one with Rick Warren was a Obama's worst debate, and McCain's best.

40 posted on 12/02/2011 3:29:42 PM PST by magellan
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To: napscoordinator

He is more conservative than anyone except maybe the lower tier of Bachmann, Paul and Santorum.

Huntsman supports a constitutional amendment to overturn Roe v. Wade

“I sign the bill that would trigger the ban on abortion in Utah if Roe v. Wade were overturned”
June 3, 2011, The Faith And Freedom Coalition Conference, Washington D.C

“I do support a right to life amendment”
Jun 08, 2011, Radio Interview with Hugh Hewitt

“Governor Huntsman supports a federal amendment that would ensure legal protections for the unborn… He’s proud of his record in Utah and will continue to advocate for life on a national level.”
August 20, 2011, Tim Miller, spokesman for Huntsman

Parental notification

“I signed the bill requiring parental permission for an abortion”
June 3, 2011, The Faith And Freedom Coalition Conference, Washington D.C

Embryonic stem cell research

Huntsman supports stem cell research, but not embryonic cells.

“Jon Huntsman is a passionate supporter of stem cell research which is leading to new discoveries that will improve and lengthen the lives of many Americans… He supports federal funding for lines that have a demonstrated history of success — adult stem cells, non-embryonic stem-cells and certain types of embryonic stem cell research. Gov. Huntsman opposes federal funding for new lines that would do harm to embryos”


41 posted on 12/02/2011 3:30:35 PM PST by erlayman
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To: magritte

That’s seriously hilarious. Huntsman says “You want to bring about change in a way that helps your country through public service, I’m there.” and conservatives find a way to use the “serve your country” card to lead the country down a garden path that ends at either Romney or Obama in the White House.

Little wonder the Tea Party candidates have flamed out and Huntsman is the more viable libertarian left in this race.


42 posted on 12/02/2011 3:52:50 PM PST by erlayman
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To: ez; All

Speaking about last place. What about former LA governer Buddy Roemer. Last night I hear him talking about starting a new party, the American something or other. Anyone know about this??


43 posted on 12/02/2011 4:15:29 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: svcw

Don’t forget Mitt’s Perfect Hair. When I was a child, my mother who was stuck at home all day would invite the young Morman missionary men in for a chat. Always suits, white shirts, and perfect hair. I was a preteen and thought they were cute, although my impression was that my mother could out-dicuss them on religious matters.


44 posted on 12/02/2011 4:21:55 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: FrankR; TBBT; All

Remember without Ralph Nader, we probably would not have had President Bush.


45 posted on 12/02/2011 4:24:05 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Did you see this?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/romney-and-gingrich-from-bad-to-worse/2011/12/02/gIQArsM3LO_story.html?hpid=z2

Really enjoyed this column by Will. A seething takedown of Newt, and a casual dismissal of Mitt. And some very strong compliments for Huntsman. I still say he’s got no chance, but you might be interested in this column.


46 posted on 12/02/2011 11:46:08 PM PST by Huck (LIBERTY is the object.)
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To: erlayman
He is more conservative than anyone except maybe the lower tier of Bachmann, Paul and Santorum.

If this is true, why is he regarded as a liberal around here and on talk radio?

47 posted on 12/02/2011 11:52:48 PM PST by Huck (LIBERTY is the object.)
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To: St. Louis Conservative; Retired Greyhound; Diogenesis; RockinRight; newzjunkey; magellan
Questionable strategy by Newt.

Not so... It makes sense. It is win-win for both.

The same people who like Mitt also like Huntsman, so Huntsman will steal from Mitt's support.

And the timing, exactly ONE MONTH before the NH debate,
And the location also NH, so it will get a lot of NH viewers at exactly the same time where voters start paying CLOSE attention to an upconming election.

Should get a lot of NH press coverage. It will play in Iowa TV and MSM as well, since THEY will be only 3 weeks from their caucus.

All of this will also remind voters that Mitt is a coward to not debate Newt. (not presidential material)



( To the Gingrich-haters that troll-n-trash most Gingrich threads; I will try to not address you. Please do not cc or reply to me )
48 posted on 12/03/2011 12:13:49 AM PST by Future Useless Eater (Chicago politics = corrupted capitalism = takeover by COMMUNity-ISM)
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To: Huck

http://www.jon2012.com/index.php/hpress/news/libertarian_case_for_jon_huntsman

No idea. My head explodes with the possibilities. There are conservative that argue there is a conspiracy in the liberal media to get Huntsman nominated because he is the weakest. There are conservative that argue there is a conspiracy in the liberal media to not get Huntsman nominated because he is the strongest. These people must do nothing but believe whatever people tell them to believe.

But there is still time for Huntsman to make his move. He is starting to lock down some key Republican supporters who are taking a second look beyond who the press decides for you to the candidate’s actual track record and platform.


49 posted on 12/03/2011 1:25:30 AM PST by erlayman
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To: St. Louis Conservative

I don’t know, this is one context in which Huntsman can come off as relatively humble and even likable.

I’m not so sure Huntsman is even a bad idea as a candidate, compared to Romney, Newt or Perry.


50 posted on 12/03/2011 1:30:33 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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