Skip to comments.Herman Cain 2012 drop-out decision: 'Leaning toward' campaign suspension
Posted on 12/02/2011 6:39:28 PM PST by freespirited
Multiple sources familiar with the discussions told POLITICO Friday that Herman Cain is leaning toward suspending the campaign, in the words of one, who stressed no decision has been made.
Hell probably get out, but nothings been decided, another source said.
The one-time leader in the Republican presidential polls is scheduled to address supporters at the opening of his Georgia state headquarters Saturday. He was set to meet with his wife Friday to discuss the future of his candidacy at the end of a week at which he and aides repeatedly said he was reassessing his candidacy.
Cain himself has sounded conflicted about the decision, saying in interviews this week that he was eager to spare his wife and family any further pain. But at events in Michigan, Ohio and South Carolina this week, hes taken a defiant tone.
The source cited the toll the period that began on Oct. 30 has taken on his family something Cain has discussed publicly over the last few days.
The two options hes weighing are continuing forward with the campaign, or suspending the campaign, the first source said.
But Cain may still decide to fight, the source added. Either way, Cain has made clear he is not conceding the allegations against him are true, and also that he plans to keep fighting to clear himself somehow, although its not clear what form that would take.
Whats also become clear is that some of Cains advisers want him to keep going.
Cains campaign spokesman J.D. Gordon pushed back on the rumors that the candidate would likely leave the race, saying, I dont know where they are getting their information.
Gordon referred back to Cains comments on Fox News on Thursday night that hed make a decision by Monday and at a town hall on Friday, where he said hed announce his future plans on Saturday.
I dont have anything to add from what Mr. Cain said in Rock Hill, S.C., and on the Sean Hannity program, Gordon said.
Cain aides were preparing for a campaign through the Iowa caucuses as recently as Thursday night, when the candidates Iowa chairman Steve Grubbs says he met with campaign manager Mark Block in Des Moines. Grubbs said they even submitted a campaign mobile app to Apple for approval on Friday.
Cains schedule is filled well into next week, with plans to campaign in Oklahoma on Monday and to speak at the Republican Jewish Coalition forum on Wednesday. The national campaign also just launched the Women for Herman Cain group, naming Cains wife Gloria, as its head.
We were planning the campaign for the rest of the month. We have a lot of work to do, Grubbs said. Weve got all sorts of things going on, so I would be real disappointed if he did drop out.
He is guilty of hiding something from his wife that she should have known about.
There are people who call our home straight from the phone book without ever going to the Ministerial Association. If my husband isn’t home at the time I give them his cell phone number. His cellphone is owned by the church and he has it so that he can always be available; it’s not a secret in any way. Somebody could call our home, get me on the phone, and get my husband’s cellphone number - and I might never know who they were, what they wanted to talk to him about, or what came of it.
And usually it’s not because my husband is specifically hiding anything from me, although sometimes he has to hide things from me because he can’t break confidence with the person he counseled. Most of the times it’s just that we’re busy and he doesn’t have time to tell me every detail of his day. I think sometimes he feels like he’s a sucker so he doesn’t want to tell me about it. lol. But then, I feel like a sucker when I buy plywood or embroidery floss for my after-school job and would rather not tell him about that too. lol. (Dave Ramsey will cure us both, I’m sure. lol)
I am interested in how White was involved with the National Restaurant Association. Seems like all these women were from that time period and they all thought that Cain would help them out of the goodness of his heart - which wouldn’t be the case if he was known as a womanizer. Instead, that picture fits with what a poster here who has lived in Atlanta for 20 years has said Cain’s reputation has always been until these allegations - that he is a generous person. Which is what his wife says about him also, and what he says was the reason for giving White financial help.
There are people who will see evil even in the Son of God having his feet washed by a penitent woman. Could you imagine what Politico would say about Cain having his feet washed and dried by the tears and hair of a woman? lol.
But that was the Son of God - the sinless one, who alone is able to love perfectly and purely.
And the Pharisees called Him a friend of prostitutes and tax collectors. “Doesn’t He know what kind of a woman is touching him?”
For some reason the Son of God cared more about helping that woman than about helping Himself and His own reputation. Would He meet the test of what it means to “not even give the appearance of evil”?
Just talking alone with the Samaritan woman at the well would have put Jesus WAY on the bad side of the society He lived in. It didn’t stop Him. Why do you think that is? Didn’t He care that He could be giving somebody a reason to think badly of Him?
Which 2 1/2 years was it that Cain helped White financially? Do we know?
Pretty much what I expect him to try to do. He’s opening a new headquarters tomorrow according to several sources - who opens an HQ on the day that they’re announcing a campaign suspension?
Beyond that, if Cain is to have any hope at all, he’s going to have to spend the entirety of the next month in Iowa and South Carolina. There’s absolutely zero reason for him to be spending any time, especially in FRIGGIN’ DECEMBER, in Ohio or Oklahoma or Alabama. That shows a fundamental lack of understanding for how this whole thing works.
I’m done with this conversation with a brick wall.
Mr. Cain stated that he never texted her at 4:30 am. Perhaps she texted him at 4:30 am because she was in some crisis and needed help.
But it doesn’t matter does it?
The seeds of doubt were sewn, and they grew in your mind.
Any of the women who have been helped by my husband could falsely claim that he was paying them for services rendered. That just goes with the territory. That’s why we have libel laws - to protect against that kind of thing. It would be a he-said-she-said thing.
Most situations go through the Ministerial Association. But sometimes they are out of money, have already given their limit for that person, or aren’t available at the time. In those instances when the crisis doesn’t fall neatly into the schedule, my husband has to make a choice, knowing that whatever he does to the least of these, he does to the Lord.
If the Lord needed gas to get to work in the morning so the family could become self-sustaining, and you were the only person around to help, would you do it? And then who would you go tell all about your act of charity? Again, most of the time my husband tells me but not all the time, depending on how busy we are.
He didn't say he "paid her off". He said he gave her money(and there was no time period mentioned either), there is a world of difference. I guess you are like a dimwit and the truth is just something you use when it suits you.
I have given people, some of them women, money before and didn't tell my wife because it was my spending money and we didn't tell each other how we spent our walking around money and it was of no consequence. Using your criteria, I "paid these people off".
So, this is the vetting process?
Being personally destoryed?
When was Obama personally destroyed?
When are the other GOP candidates going to be personally destroyed?
Do not tell me what I need to do, I’m going to tell you what I’m going to do.
I’m going to make you and those like you stand alone against your enemy like you made Herman do.
Draw and quarter him then.
My husband refers whenever he can. But church resources are very limited. Our church has hardly anything in a social welfare fund, and they will only use it for members. Members don’t come to Pastor for help; non-members do.
The Ministerial Association functions only on donations, and by summer they were full out of funds. They had a fund-raiser (the first they’ve ever had) to help raise funds this fall. But in that between time, my husband knew there weren’t any funds to use so it was pointless to ask. And the Ministerial Association has a limit on how much they will pitch in for any one person/family. I think it’s $50 a year. That doesn’t pay an electric bill, which is what a lot of the people who ask for help need help with. When you see that the economy is doing badly, what that means for a pastor is that there will be weekly requests for help and not many donations to cover those requests. A soft-hearted person has a hard time turning away people in real need, and lots of pastors are soft-hearted guys who want to do for others what they would gladly do for Jesus. That’s just a fact.
My husband is the vice-president of the local Lions Club but they don’t have much money either and their money has to be allocated at their meetings which are about once a month - and mostly go toward the corporate projects and a few local projects. Not to individuals.
Just so long as you know what your values/beliefs are.
There are far too many here that are flitting from candidate to candidate looking for a ‘savior’. Which tells me that they have no idea what their values/beliefs even are... as the candidates actually have differences.
A good example is seeing all the Cain supporters start to flock around Newt. I mean, just how conservative is a person if they can switch over to Newt?
Another thing that factors in here is that Cain considered this gal a friend. A friend he knew from the NRA. I’ve got friends from work that I have pitched in to help. A good friend of mine would die before she would ask a church for help. But I’m her friend, and she would be able to receive help from me just as she would be glad to give help to me if the tables were turned. That’s what friendship is. I have guys I work with where it’s the same way.
Most the time I would tell my husband, but it might depend on how busy we are and how much I pitched in. We know and trust each other’s discretion after 20 years of marriage. We see eye-to-eye on stuff like that. Mostly we do what we can and trust that somehow God will provide for our needs also. And He always has.
It would seem some people have a hard time dealing with that simple fact, it is at the very least, extremely poor judgment on his part.
The fact is that Cain hid this from his wife for 13 years and destroyed his own credibility.
So I guess I was clear enough this time?
Libel laws can't undue the damage done to one's reputation.
Giving gas money to an individual is one thing, giving money to a woman for 13 years is something else.
You clearly have a hard time with context.