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Herman Cain 2012 drop-out decision: 'Leaning toward' campaign suspension
Politico ^ | 12/02/11 | Maggie Haberman & Reid Epstein

Posted on 12/02/2011 6:39:28 PM PST by freespirited

Multiple sources familiar with the discussions told POLITICO Friday that Herman Cain is “leaning toward suspending the campaign,” in the words of one, who stressed no decision has been made.

“He’ll probably get out, but nothing’s been decided,” another source said.

The one-time leader in the Republican presidential polls is scheduled to address supporters at the opening of his Georgia state headquarters Saturday. He was set to meet with his wife Friday to discuss the future of his candidacy at the end of a week at which he and aides repeatedly said he was “reassessing” his candidacy.

Cain himself has sounded conflicted about the decision, saying in interviews this week that he was eager to spare his wife and family any further pain. But at events in Michigan, Ohio and South Carolina this week, he’s taken a defiant tone.

The source cited the toll the period that began on Oct. 30 has taken on his family — something Cain has discussed publicly over the last few days.

The two options he’s weighing are “continuing forward with the campaign, or suspending the campaign,” the first source said.

But Cain may still decide to fight, the source added. Either way, Cain has made clear he is not conceding the allegations against him are true, and also that he plans to keep fighting to clear himself somehow, although it’s not clear what form that would take.

What’s also become clear is that some of Cain’s advisers want him to keep going.

Cain’s campaign spokesman J.D. Gordon pushed back on the rumors that the candidate would likely leave the race, saying, “I don’t know where they are getting their information.”

Gordon referred back to Cain’s comments on Fox News on Thursday night that he’d make a decision by Monday and at a town hall on Friday, where he said he’d announce his future plans on Saturday.

“I don’t have anything to add from what Mr. Cain said in Rock Hill, S.C., and on the Sean Hannity program,” Gordon said.

Cain aides were preparing for a campaign through the Iowa caucuses as recently as Thursday night, when the candidate’s Iowa chairman Steve Grubbs says he met with campaign manager Mark Block in Des Moines. Grubbs said they even submitted a campaign mobile app to Apple for approval on Friday.

Cain’s schedule is filled well into next week, with plans to campaign in Oklahoma on Monday and to speak at the Republican Jewish Coalition forum on Wednesday. The national campaign also just launched the Women for Herman Cain group, naming Cain’s wife Gloria, as its head.

“We were planning the campaign for the rest of the month. We have a lot of work to do,” Grubbs said. “We’ve got all sorts of things going on, so I would be real disappointed if he did drop out.”


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KEYWORDS: cain; cainscandals; enemedia; gopprimary; hermancain; politico; pollutico; quitter
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To: meatloaf
I wish he would stay in the race.....he's not perfect, but he's not an evil nazi born of questionable heritage.....

God bless you Hermain Cain...

51 posted on 12/02/2011 7:37:53 PM PST by cherry
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To: not2worry

That’s pretty much how I feel too, except that I would think long and hard before voting 3rd party. Anybody would be better than Obama, and if Obama wins again I truly believe that it will spell the end for this country. The communist-Islamist takeover will be completed within his 2nd illegal term of office.

Right now I can’t stand to listen to the so-called “conservative” talkers who have poo-poohed the rule of law and thrown under the bus any of us who care about the lawlessness that the whole system has shown in protecting somebody we know is guilty of crimes to cover up his own ineligibility for office.

Right now I’m sick of all the candidates.

Right now I’m worse than sick of the lying media and the Axelrod Chicago that sleeps with them. I’m sick of their love-juices squirting all over the US countryside while the rest of us gag at their prostitution and corruption.


52 posted on 12/02/2011 7:40:11 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: freespirited

Well, in the face of the world saying he’s going-I’ll stick by 1st opinion- he’ll stay. (Forever the optimist) -:)

And, for anybody for 26 secs of comic relief

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY-zmJ1VCQI


53 posted on 12/02/2011 7:40:17 PM PST by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, than to consent to wrong.)
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To: chris37

Considering that is my sentiment as well, it’s reasonable to conclude a lot of folks are feeling the exact same thing. So the GOP turn their backs on Cain, in the name of pure political power and having an establishment guy, and as a result lose the Presidency and the nation. Sounds prophetic... and extraordinarily depressing. But I’m not going to play their game anymore either.


54 posted on 12/02/2011 7:41:09 PM PST by Apollo5600 (Cain 2012)
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To: dfwgator

No problem whatsoever.


55 posted on 12/02/2011 7:42:45 PM PST by tnlibertarian (Things are so bad now, Kenyans are saying Obama was born in the USA.)
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To: Apollo5600

>> So the GOP turn their backs on Cain, in the name of pure political power and having an establishment guy, and as a result lose the Presidency and the nation. Sounds prophetic...

The thing about prophesy is, to be a credible prophet you have to have a track record. Do you? If so, please link to it.

Otherwise you’re not really a prophet. I mean, *anyone* can *guess*... maybe you shouldn’t brag yourself up as a prophet. After all these things CAN be checked.


56 posted on 12/02/2011 7:45:51 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: chris37
Wouldn't it be great if he came out with his wife, both of them spitting mad at all this and vowing not to be driven out.

I pray for a rousing and fiery speech tomorrow.....Cain style!

Prayers up!

57 posted on 12/02/2011 7:46:28 PM PST by CAluvdubya (Cain is not the one that called me "heartless" and "inhumane"! MERRY CHRISTMAS!)
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To: Nervous Tick

Have you stopped beating your wife yet? Huh? Did you do it, or no? What about that one?

He said he helped her financially. It was reported (though I don’t know on what basis) that her texts were asking for money. And his responses - when he responded to about every 5th text of hers - were to ask if she had tried to get a job. When those texts are released we will see how accurate the claims are. But he has never said that he “paid off a bimbo for 13 years”.

Sounds just like what my husband deals with as a pastor. And no, I don’t know everybody he helps.

Now go and tell everybody that my husband has admitted to paying off bimbos without telling me about it. That seems to be about the quality of thought you’re up to.


58 posted on 12/02/2011 7:46:33 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Nervous Tick

Is that nervous tick you got come from all the heroin you’ve been shooting up while posting on this forum?


60 posted on 12/02/2011 7:50:30 PM PST by Apollo5600 (Cain 2012)
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To: Westbrook

I could reluctantly vote for Gingrich, but I also agree that I don’t think he has a snowball’s chance of winning the general election. This is the way the stupid party works.....they always make sure the “it’s my turn next” guy always gets his “turn”.

As I’ve stated in the past, the ballot box has become and absolutely worthless lost cause.


61 posted on 12/02/2011 7:51:26 PM PST by MachIV
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To: Westbrook

“Concerning the destruction of the country, better that it should be done in one fell swoop, rather than by a thousand cuts.”

Better for whom?


62 posted on 12/02/2011 7:52:45 PM PST by Magic Fingers
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To: butterdezillion

I am seeing that it really riles you Cain Train passengers when reasonable people embrace a reasonable and obvious conclusion from indisputable facts put forth by Mr. Cain himself.

Very strange, cult-like behavior. You’d never give Obama the same benefit of the doubt. Would you? But Cain? Why, the man can do no wrong!

Very strange.


63 posted on 12/02/2011 7:52:49 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: tnlibertarian
saw Herman pass out at 31 Flavors last night
Because he's the flavor of the weak?
/s
64 posted on 12/02/2011 7:52:54 PM PST by PalinPlease
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To: Apollo5600

It’s pretty clear you’re out of ammunition when the best you can do is to make fun of a screen nick.


65 posted on 12/02/2011 7:54:54 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Nervous Tick

Exactly!


67 posted on 12/02/2011 7:57:12 PM PST by X-spurt
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To: Nervous Tick

It’s pretty clear you wouldn’t be as purposely obnoxious as you are if we were all in person discussing this. I guarantee it with how childish you are in obsessively ridiculing people randomly.


68 posted on 12/02/2011 7:59:56 PM PST by Apollo5600 (Cain 2012)
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To: Westbrook
The only reason I would vote for Paul is that... I am a friggin' nutcase.
69 posted on 12/02/2011 8:00:38 PM PST by neocon1984
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To: Tzar

It’s Politico that started this whole process weeks ago. They’ve successfully brought Cain down. And it’s Politico who’s laughing tonight — at all of us.


70 posted on 12/02/2011 8:00:54 PM PST by kevao
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To: justsaynomore; tnlibertarian
You're right. We have no idea if Herman Cain is dropping out.

But during the phase when FR members were talking about the payments to the two women by the National Restaurant Assocation, this attorney was watching hundreds of FR posters write things like "my best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who said that anytime a payment is called severance it proves there wasn't really any harassment!"

And i just face-palmed, as you're doing now.

71 posted on 12/02/2011 8:02:12 PM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: chris37

Why don’t you hate him for giving money to a woman for 13 years w/o his wife’s knowldge?


72 posted on 12/02/2011 8:02:24 PM PST by Lou Budvis (Newt/Marco '12)
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To: Nervous Tick

Good Lord, he never claimed to be a prophet. Somebody drank too much Gotcha Juice apparently.


73 posted on 12/02/2011 8:02:32 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: FourPeas
Politico’s unnamed sources have said a lot of things about Mr. Cain. Thus far they’ve proven to be wildly biased and inaccurate.

Politico never meant to prove anything, only to bring down Cain. Mission accomplished.

74 posted on 12/02/2011 8:02:44 PM PST by kevao
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To: ResponseAbility

75 posted on 12/02/2011 8:06:33 PM PST by BagCamAddict (If we let them run Cain out of town, they will do it to EVERY GOP candidate from now on.)
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To: obama; All

Hey listen up:

Herman Cain did not have a 13 year sex-romp with that lesbian, with the neck.


76 posted on 12/02/2011 8:07:13 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: Apollo5600

What’s random about responding to other posters in an opinion forum? That seems rather targeted to me.

And if we’re going to discuss “childish” — what could be more childish than your poking fun at a screen name instead of responding with a substantive argument?

Incidentally, *both* of your last two posts are completely devoid of any real content or any real argument to advance your position. I guess you define “obnoxious” as “doesn’t agree with my views”.

Do you realize that words have meaning? Or do you just string them together willy-nilly? I can point you to some good dictionary websites if you’d like. I think they might help you.


77 posted on 12/02/2011 8:07:31 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: butterdezillion

>> Good Lord, he never claimed to be a prophet.

“Considering that is my sentiment as well, it’s reasonable to conclude a lot of folks are feeling the exact same thing... Sounds prophetic...


78 posted on 12/02/2011 8:11:18 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: chris37

There’s a slow burn in me too. I don’t know who is behind this smear against Herman Cain but I hope it turns back on them. I hope they suffer all the pain they wanted to put on Mr. Cain plus 7 x 7!

I hope Mr. Cain stays in it because I want to vote for him now, after they’ve done this to him, more then I’ve ever wanted to vote for any one.


79 posted on 12/02/2011 8:11:38 PM PST by GloriaJane (Pro Choice = Pro Death - Pro Life = Pro LIFE!)
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To: Nervous Tick

If Cain is guilty, then so be it.

But man, you gotta get your facts straight if you’re gonna lynch someone:

Ginger White says the money was only for the last 2.5 years.

Now I realize that even a couple months worth of giving money to “another woman” is enough to hang Cain in many people’s eyes. But let’s not be guilty of doing what the media does. If it was 2.5 years, then it was 2.5 years, not 13 years. Let’s get our facts right.


80 posted on 12/02/2011 8:12:29 PM PST by BagCamAddict (If we let them run Cain out of town, they will do it to EVERY GOP candidate from now on.)
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To: BagCamAddict

>> But man, you gotta get your facts straight if you’re gonna lynch someone:

Fair enough. (Although I’m not out to “lynch” anyone.)

relationship for 13 years (by cain’s admission)
payments over 2.5 years (source please?)

Is that accurate?


81 posted on 12/02/2011 8:15:05 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: butterdezillion

I agree!!


82 posted on 12/02/2011 8:15:36 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: freespirited

They pulled this sh** on Thompson in 2008. The GOP needs an enima. FR as well, too much politico pimpin’t goin on.


83 posted on 12/02/2011 8:16:35 PM PST by Dead Dog
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To: freespirited

They pulled this sh** on Thompson in 2008. The GOP needs an enima. FR as well, too much politico pimpin’t goin on.


84 posted on 12/02/2011 8:16:49 PM PST by Dead Dog
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To: Westbrook
Concerning the destruction of the country, better that it should be done in one fell swoop, rather than by a thousand cuts.

+1 to this. This country is probably already to far gone to save. $16 trillion debt, $120+ trillion in unfunded liabilities, and God knows how many untold trillions our central bank has "printed" and shuffled to banks throughout the world in the past three years.

Only *drastic* austerity measures will save us now, and none of the candidates are proposing anything like what is needed. IMO, a currency collapse is guaranteed to occur within the next two or three years. When it all goes down, it's probably best a Democrat be in charge to get the blame.

85 posted on 12/02/2011 8:19:01 PM PST by kevao
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To: chris37

Death by a 1000 allegations.
I’m as PO’d as you.

If, by improbable chance, Cain is guilty of helping out a ‘bimbo,’ and his wife forgives him - well I’m sure that Steve Croft and 60 Minutes will take about a dozen camera retakes where Herman takes Gloria’s hand, and they look America in the eye and say, “Mistakes were made.”

Wait, I think I’ve seen this movie before! It didn’t end well, and I had nightmares for eight years.

I don’t know about your state, Chris37, but I have the luxury of living in a state that hasn’t voted for a democrat presidential candidate in ages. I don’t have to vote for Newt or Romney or any rino, because the state will do it; and I can vote 3rd party or just go fishing and enjoy my personal rino rebellion.


86 posted on 12/02/2011 8:19:24 PM PST by A'elian' nation (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred. Jacques Barzun)
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To: butterdezillion; All
"I’ll plug my nose and vote for anybody but Obama.."


87 posted on 12/02/2011 8:19:35 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: butterdezillion

no. My guess is it will be quite funny. There is enough material there for a good skit unless the writers are brain-dead.


88 posted on 12/02/2011 8:19:42 PM PST by plain talk
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To: Nervous Tick
I can only speak for myself here, but I may very well speak for a number of other people:

It's not that the man can do no wrong.

It's: What are our choices?

Let's just say for a moment that adultery is a deal-breaker for an individual voter on the GOP side. So that means Gingrich is out.

What are you left with that has ALL of these elements:

1. Conservative values, not flip-flopping.

2. Ability to LEAD this Country, including We The People, as well as Congress.

3. Ability to win the general election against Obama.

Who has all three of those?

Speaking again, only for myself, I don't care if Cain did cheat on his wife relative to voting for him for President. (I care relative to his wife and family, but not relative to my vote.) I am not choosing a candidate based on his sex life. I am choosing based on what I want the next President to accomplish.

89 posted on 12/02/2011 8:20:29 PM PST by BagCamAddict (If we let them run Cain out of town, they will do it to EVERY GOP candidate from now on.)
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To: chris37

Ouch.... Looks like we won’t be exchanging Christmas cards.

You really should try decaf.


90 posted on 12/02/2011 8:21:19 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~.. Newt/Palin-West-2012."got a lot swirling around in my head.")
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To: Nervous Tick

You think and act like an Obot.


92 posted on 12/02/2011 8:23:33 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: freespirited; All
A MUST READ tonight, for Cain fans (and even detractors):

Please Mr. Cain – Don’t Stop This Train!

If anyone has connections to the Cain campaign, please email them this excellent piece.

93 posted on 12/02/2011 8:24:59 PM PST by montag813
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To: Nervous Tick

Source: Ginger White’s own statement, in video interview with AH Lawrence O’Donnell. One of these two videos (can’t remember which one, sorry):

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/45519034#null

http://thelastword.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/12/01/9153668-ginger-white-apologizes-to-cains-wife

Is that accurate? Who knows. It’s what she said. She also said the sex trailed off during that time. She didn’t explicitly say there was no sex during that 2.5 years, but it was somewhat implied.


94 posted on 12/02/2011 8:28:43 PM PST by BagCamAddict (If we let them run Cain out of town, they will do it to EVERY GOP candidate from now on.)
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To: BagCamAddict

>> Let’s just say for a moment that adultery is a deal-breaker for an individual voter on the GOP side. So that means Gingrich is out.

If that’s the criteria, then Cain is out too. But (for me anyway) it’s the LYING more than the adultery (although I’m not happy with the adultery of Gingrich and Cain either).

>> What are you left with that has ALL of these elements:
>> 1. Conservative values, not flip-flopping.
>> 2. Ability to LEAD this Country, including We The People, as well as Congress.
>> 3. Ability to win the general election against Obama.

As to 1.: Cain is a dissembler, and dissembling is not a conservative value.
As to 2.: Others have PROVEN ability to lead a state (Perry) and a Congress (Gingrich). Cain led a division of a food company; not chopped liver, but not a direct track record either. Too, good judgment is required to lead. Cain has shown major lapses in judgment.
As to 3.: That can be only conjecture at this point — for ALL the candidates. All of the candidates, frankly, have pros and cons. But an advantage to Perry and (unfortunately) Romney is their cash on hand and their robust ground game. Cain cannot boast of such. (Admittedly, neither can Gingrich.)


95 posted on 12/02/2011 8:30:53 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: BagCamAddict

Lots of fake numbers being thrown around by liars and frauds on this site.

When the story first broke I has people swear to me here that it was Cain himself who sent the 61 texts to White.

I said over and over we didn’t know the breakdown let’s wait for facts and they said no they know it for a fact let’s hang Cain right now.

One day later it became clear the vast majority of the texts were FROM White TO Cain.


97 posted on 12/02/2011 8:32:17 PM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: butterdezillion
You think and act like an Obot.

perry polisher, not an obot

98 posted on 12/02/2011 8:33:53 PM PST by farmguy
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To: Nervous Tick
But (for me anyway) it’s the LYING more than the adultery

If lying is a deal breaker for you, then I suspect you may eventually end up rejecting all the remaining candidates by the time it's all said and done.

99 posted on 12/02/2011 8:34:50 PM PST by kevao
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To: BagCamAddict

I found out this year that my husband has been helping a gal who keeps coming back to the Ministerial Association for money, probably for the past 2 or 3 years. I found out because I was at church for Bible study when she showed up again. She interrupted Bible study to talk to him. I knew something was wrong when he rolled his eyes before going out to talk to her. Afterwards I asked who she was and he explained that she had been skipping about from one pastor to another, one Ministerial Association to another, and to the Community Action offices telling each of them a different lie. Nobody knew how to help her and she just kept coming. So he had been dealing with that for the past 2-3 years and had helped her from what cash he had on hand at various times. She was probably about 30 and was good-looking but he was definitely not interested in seeing her at all. They both obviously knew she was lying.

I suppose that makes my husband an adulterer, huh?


100 posted on 12/02/2011 8:34:57 PM PST by butterdezillion
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