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Here's Hoping Herman Cain Will Stay In the Race
FOXNEWS.com ^ | December 2, 2011 | Dr. Alveda King

Posted on 12/03/2011 6:16:49 AM PST by NautiNurse

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I hope Mr. Cain will stay in the race through the GOP primaries. Let the voters decide who our candidate will be, rather than the liberal MSM.
1 posted on 12/03/2011 6:16:51 AM PST by NautiNurse
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To: NautiNurse

this whole chain of events is unfortunate, for Herman Cain, and for the GOP; but if FOX news doesn’t get rid of that fat pasty faced pompous ass Rove, I’m gonna have to throw another TV onto the pile out back!! The GOP (and FNC) need to get rid of pukes like him, not people like Cain.


2 posted on 12/03/2011 6:20:39 AM PST by Segovia
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To: Segovia

Agree. Just finished watching that Rove and he disgusts me more and more everyday. PIG


3 posted on 12/03/2011 6:22:33 AM PST by GoCards (I am a Hobbit)
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To: GoCards
I keep thinking, does he and hannity have something going on with Barney .
4 posted on 12/03/2011 6:25:10 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Newt, Willard, Perry and his fellow supporters)
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To: NautiNurse

Welcome to the United Soviet States of America..where the Pravda State Media “vet” the candidates to the pleasure and needs of the RinoCrat UniParty.

This “election” will be a non-election...featuring the state approved “candidates”-whose only distinction is whether they are black or white.


5 posted on 12/03/2011 6:26:18 AM PST by mo
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To: NautiNurse
Here's another good piece on why he should stay in the race...from a woman who hasn't backed Cain, but does not want the Left to gain another GOP scalp...

Please Mr. Cain, Don't Stop This Train

6 posted on 12/03/2011 6:29:31 AM PST by montag813
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To: NautiNurse

Quite frankly, I don’t care if Cain was boinking these women right up til last Tuesday. (though I don’t believe a single one of them).

I’m just sick to my stomach about the media taking down another Conservative with lies, distortions and double standards.

Somebody has to fight back against this crap!


7 posted on 12/03/2011 6:30:36 AM PST by digger48
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To: GoCards

Stand with Obama/Axelrod attack machine or stand with Herman Cain. There is no middle ground. It is going to get hot. I hope each person here on FR makes the principled choice between these two.


8 posted on 12/03/2011 6:32:00 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Cain: 1st Victim of 2012 Obama Camp's Smear Machine's PROOF OF CONCEPT Effort. Did You Assist Them?)
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To: Segovia; GoCards
I saw him, too......what a puke!

I wish Rove would be the one to "drop out". I could live without ever seeing or hearing from him again!

9 posted on 12/03/2011 6:32:06 AM PST by CAluvdubya (Cain is not the one that called me "heartless" and "inhumane"! MERRY CHRISTMAS!)
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To: NautiNurse
Yes, it will be disheartening if a True American Hero--a man who has prevailed over poverty, cancer, the corporate world, and RACISM--who embodies The American Dream--who has succeeded magnificently and offers to show all people everywhere how they can do it too--who has so much that is good to give to America and all the people of the world--is successfully "lynched" by Democrat politicians using the oldest trick in their sordid armamentum of ancient RACIST ploys: accusations of sexual improprieties by an uppity Black man toward a White woman!
10 posted on 12/03/2011 6:32:26 AM PST by Savage Beast (Herman Cain: American Hero)
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To: digger48

I’ll say it again: The MSM and liberals might be behind this, but when you seeing the RINOs like Rove gleefully squeeling for Cain to drop out, you know the fix is in and they’re working together in some capacity.


11 posted on 12/03/2011 6:32:26 AM PST by bigdirty
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To: NautiNurse
A good article and thanks for posting.

The phrase "rush to judgment" was never more appropriate than when witnessing the recent comments by allegedly intelligent conservatives right here on this forum, concluding that Herman Cain must be guilty of something, never mind that the veracity and trustworthiness of the so-called 'victims' were on a level reserved for used car salesmen and Nigerian scam email writers.

When (and it is only a question of 'when', not if) the actual paymasters and puppeteers behind those lying whores are revealed, we will see the raw obscenity of what the 'Rats and their leftist enablers have created out of what at one time, was honest political discourse.

Meanwhile, we all continue to pray for Herman Cain and his family. They did not deserve this. And I am certain that Herman Cain has been praying for direction in this matter, and he will make his decision based on what the Almighty guides him to do. If he chooses to continue his campaign, I will stand behind him 100 percent, if he should choose to withdraw, I will respect and honor that, and so should everyone else.

It DOES mean that among the remaining candidates, it needs to be understood without equivocation:

Mitt Romney = UNACCEPTABLE.

That is the bottom line.
12 posted on 12/03/2011 6:32:26 AM PST by mkjessup (I stand with Herman Cain!!)
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To: NautiNurse
I have re-thunk my decision to quit supporting him.
I am reversing myself and will support him now.
There are several reasons. here are just a few:
1. Romney.
2. Doodie Newtie.
3. OK lets say all the bimbos were telling the truth. I don't remember any RAPE charge. The one who said he put his hands on her legs, said stop and guess what? He stopped.
4. Is he perfect? NO We only had one perfect man and he got nailed to a tree.
13 posted on 12/03/2011 6:34:56 AM PST by DeaconRed (Everything is broken: And ZERO Just fiddles & blames Bush.)
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To: montag813

that article is excellent.


14 posted on 12/03/2011 6:35:16 AM PST by Fred (On Newt Gingrich - He is a sociopath, but he is our sociopath)
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To: nutmeg; AmericanInTokyo; justsaynomore; Nick Danger; cardinal4; stillafreemind; indylindy; ...

Ping


15 posted on 12/03/2011 6:35:35 AM PST by NautiNurse (Zot! Cut! Slash! --That's the sound of the men workin' on the Cain gang)
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To: NautiNurse
I hope Mr. Cain will stay in the race through the GOP primaries. Let the voters decide who our candidate will be, rather than the liberal MSM.

I'm sorry, NN, but Herman Cain has admitted he never told his wife about the money he gave to Ms. Rice. A man who can keep something like that from his wife is a man who can keep all kinds of stuff from GOP voters. He no longer has the benefit of a doubt to me. And I defended him from the attacks with unfounded allegations. But this is his own admission here.

16 posted on 12/03/2011 6:35:47 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: NautiNurse

does any one know what time we get the news?


17 posted on 12/03/2011 6:36:06 AM PST by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: org.whodat

>>> I keep thinking, does he and hannity have something going on with Barney . >>>

I will require six months of therapy to get over the trauma of the visual image that post caused!!!!!


18 posted on 12/03/2011 6:36:27 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

If he doesn’t stay in, we are back in mccainland. I can NOT support either gingrich or romney. I just can’t.


19 posted on 12/03/2011 6:36:54 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: NautiNurse

Cain (and his surrounding good people) mishandled the fiasco from the start. Submitting to interviews that were usually more than fifty percent discussions of sex charges — his denyin’-denyin’-denyin’ plan — was a huge mistake. Gave the sharks a new bloody limb every few days.
He should have refused outright to talk about it, and said his lawyers would aggressively pursue the accusers in civil court. End of story.
Don’t feed the animals.


20 posted on 12/03/2011 6:41:09 AM PST by Lady Lucky
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To: NautiNurse

I agree. I don’t like how he’s handled these issues - and I think, well, I know, he’s assembled a very flawed team that includes a number of folks who themselves don’t understand what Cain is all about - and the notion of going into a “holding pattern” of 72 hours while you re-assess is just death by amateurism. (If you re-assess, do so in private while publicly you are full speed ahead!).

BUT, he’s a good man and a great story, and I HATE HATE HATE that anyone can be sidetracked by what is obviously a manipulated smear campaign.


21 posted on 12/03/2011 6:41:19 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: dirtboy; NautiNurse
I'm sorry, NN, but Herman Cain has admitted he never told his wife about the money he gave to Ms. Rice.

Wow, Herman also gave money to Condi Rice?

It figures, freakin' RINO was a lousy Secretary of State too.
22 posted on 12/03/2011 6:41:28 AM PST by mkjessup (I stand with Herman Cain!!)
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To: dirtboy
How much money did he help her out with? We don't know.

I truly believe he thought he was helping a friend in need. I don't believe it was huge amounts of money and that is why his wife didn't know.

My husband has been known to help out friends with money from time to time without discussing it with me beforehand. Cain is wealthy and what may seem like a lot of money to you and I is but a drop in the bucket to him and not worth discussion. I believe you can take an innocent situation and make it appear to look bad....that's what has happened here.

I've seen a close relative with stage 4 cancer and they did not have "fooling around" on their mind let alone have a body that would cooperate. This is a sham.

23 posted on 12/03/2011 6:42:18 AM PST by CAluvdubya (Cain is not the one that called me "heartless" and "inhumane"! MERRY CHRISTMAS!)
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To: mkjessup

Wow, I got the last name wrong. Doesn’t change the underlying fact.


24 posted on 12/03/2011 6:44:42 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: NautiNurse
Suddenly, while Mr. Cain is soaring at the top of the polls, proposing to scrap our three million word tax code for a simpler, fairer, pro-growth 9-9-9 plan (getting rid of the tax code would arguably be the largest transfer of power from the government to the people since the U.S. Constitution was ratified. No wonder the establishment resists such an agent of change)...

Pretty much all current Democrats and a frighteningly large number of Republicans will do ANYTHING to stop the transfer of power BACK to the people from the scum sucking government.

25 posted on 12/03/2011 6:45:16 AM PST by Sal (The Progressive AKA Communist media must be destroyed, discredited, and replaced.)
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To: reefdiver

My review of the news located a source reporting the Atlanta campaign HQ event is scheduled 11A-1P today. If anyone has better info, please chime in.


26 posted on 12/03/2011 6:46:43 AM PST by NautiNurse (Zot! Cut! Slash! --That's the sound of the men workin' on the Cain gang)
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To: digger48

here’s what: if Cain did have affairs and put his wife out front to lie a la Hillary for Bill C, i’m off the train. if however this is a giant Chicago smear job, assassinating the character of a decent guy, i’m going to fight like heck for the guy. i’m sick of this kind of stuff and what it says about our culture and morality.


27 posted on 12/03/2011 6:47:23 AM PST by avital2
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To: NautiNurse
First, I bet it is not just Rove; the good old boys club of the GOP; and scared Dems who do not want Cain in the race. I know for a fact that many CPA's and accountants have a huge concern...because with the 999 plan, they will lose a lot of business. Think about that and who else might be behind this smear campaign. However, that said:

There are a couple of things about this recent woman's story of a 13 year affair that have not been discussed and just do not make sense or add up. Yet, no one is asking these questions and, instead people like Rove and many in the media are assuming all the allegations have some truth. But....

(1) IF, and that is a big IF Cain helped her AND had an affair with her, just why would any sensible person expose that relationship when there was a chance that the man could become President and help her even more? It makes no sense if a person is loyal and thankful for any previous help that she received. Obviously she is neither, and her statement that she was concerned about the other women who accused Cain of some sexual harassment, makes no sense either. Why would a person, who is getting money from someone, cut of their own access to funds in order to help women who have already been shown to have lied and who certainly cannot help her? The only answer..ONLY.. is that she is lying also, and someone else promised her money if she said that Cain's help was more than just monetary and that she had an on-going affair. (yeah, right, like through the time that he was fighting and recovering from cancer???)

(2) How did this woman suddenly have a list of text messages ready and waiting to expose unless she had help from others to get this together and had been planning something so she could be paid by one of/some of Cain's enemies? And, how many other people has this woman hit up for money over the years? I am sure Cain is not the only one. Where is that list of text messages, or the names of Other people that she turned to for money? With her record it is most likely that Cain is not the only one she tapped for funds. Is she going to claim affairs with all of them?

(3) If Cain, as he admitted, has been giving her money, (as I am sure others have)...how about someone getting the IRS to investigate her and her bank account. I expect this woman never reported any financial "gifts" as income. And I am sure the money given to here were not considered "loans." Wonder how much money she has begged for and received for which she never paid taxes? This is a woman who should be investigated and made to "spread the wealth" and pay her fair share, ala Obama style.

(4) Obviously she has not been too strapped for cash if she can afford a cell phone and send thousands of text messages. It is apparent this woman is a blood-sucking leech and a slanderer. Her ex-partner took her to court for slander, and won, proving that even the courts (and her family, by the way) have all declared that she is a liar.

I feel so sorry for Cain. He has been hurt by all these allegations and I do not believe he is an unfaithful husband or a man who has done anything these women claim. He might not have become the final candidate, but this campaign against him was engineered to ruin his life, not just his chance at the White House. There are far more people who know him who can attest to his morality, sincerity, kind heart, and decency. Only a few greedy, low-life women have tried to discredit him in a way that is de plorable and slanderous. But the media tempts and encourages people to believe the liars rather than the true friends and co-workers and associates who know Cain's real character and qualities and who have defended him throughout all of these untrue stories.

28 posted on 12/03/2011 6:47:36 AM PST by CitizenM (Obama's legacy will be to be remembered as The architect of the decline of the USA)
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To: CAluvdubya; dirtboy
“How much money did he help her out with? We don't know.”

We don't know because Cain refused to answer to a direct question about it, ‘On advise of council’.

He was asked exactly that in an interview by the ‘Union Leader’, and that was his answer.

29 posted on 12/03/2011 6:48:35 AM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: dirtboy
Wow, I got the last name wrong. Doesn’t change the underlying fact.

Exactly. The lamestream media, the 'Rats and RINOs wouldn't care about the name of any alleged accuser, they just make the charge and let the smear and gossip mongers go wild.

AND, the underlying fact is that you (and others) are racing to judgment on a matter that is strictly between Herman Cain and his wife. It isn't a legal matter, it isn't a matter for moral or ethical tongue clucking, it is between Herman and Gloria Cain.
30 posted on 12/03/2011 6:50:15 AM PST by mkjessup (I stand with Herman Cain!!)
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To: CAluvdubya
I truly believe he thought he was helping a friend in need. I don't believe it was huge amounts of money and that is why his wife didn't know.

I'm sorry, but to me you just should not do that without telling your wife. Your opinion may vary, but for me personally this revelation was not a good one for Cain. And I defended Cain up to this point. Cain's admission opens up, for me, doubts about Cain's veracity on all of this.

Just the fact that Cain didn't come clean to his wife on it before he entered the race is not good. What was he thinking? That a lid would be kept on it? You just don't run for the GOP nomination without making sure your closet is in working order. You deal with this kind of stuff BEFORE you run.

I agree a Dem would have this stuff buried instead of trumpeted in the media. But the double standard is well-known and a given. Newt will be shredded for his affairs if he wins the nomination. But in Cain I see a guy who could have done the damage control and due diligence beforehand and either did not understand or did not care enough to take care of such. And that fits into many other indications that he simply does not understand the nature of the gauntlet that he chose to run.

31 posted on 12/03/2011 6:51:14 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: CitizenM

WELL said FRiend, ***BUMP*** !!!!


32 posted on 12/03/2011 6:53:33 AM PST by mkjessup (I stand with Herman Cain!!)
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To: digger48

Praying for Herman Cain and his family.

As a conservative I want Herman to stay in the race all the way to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.


33 posted on 12/03/2011 6:53:43 AM PST by not2worry
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To: mkjessup
AND, the underlying fact is that you (and others) are racing to judgment on a matter that is strictly between Herman Cain and his wife. It isn't a legal matter, it isn't a matter for moral or ethical tongue clucking, it is between Herman and Gloria Cain.

Oh, bullcrap. A man who can lie to his wife (and as Orwell noted, omission is the most powerful form of lie) can lie to the voters as well. It is HIGHLY relevant in my personal calculus about Cain's worthyness to be the GOP nominee. You can choose to ignore it if you wish. I don't.

34 posted on 12/03/2011 6:54:01 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: NautiNurse
For six unrelenting weeks, Mr. Cain has been the target of attacks on his character. His accusers have yet to prove anything, yet the man has been judged guilty in the court of public opinion without even a semblance of a fair trial.

This right here speaks volumes and not just about the media, but a lot of people on FR as well. I hope he stays in.

35 posted on 12/03/2011 6:54:21 AM PST by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: Beagle8U

The woman is a wealth of information. Why is she not telling us how much money? She doesn’t seem to be holding anything back. Could it be because the amount would seem miniscule by Cain’s wealthy standards? Hmmmm......


36 posted on 12/03/2011 6:55:08 AM PST by CAluvdubya (Cain is not the one that called me "heartless" and "inhumane"! MERRY CHRISTMAS!)
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To: CitizenM
.how about someone getting the IRS to investigate her and her bank account. I expect this woman never reported any financial "gifts" as income.

The recipient of a gift has no responsibility to report the gift (assuming it is a real gift and not someone "giving" you money as a tax cheat to avoid reporting a wage). The giver has no reporting requirements up to $13,000 per person per year before it starts counting against the lifetime gift/inheritance limits.

37 posted on 12/03/2011 6:55:08 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Herman Cain: possibly the escapee most dangerous to the Democrats since Frederick Douglass.)
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To: GoCards

He was sure gloating this morning.


38 posted on 12/03/2011 6:55:50 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (You have entered an invalid birthday)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

I wish I had thought of this before, but if Cain stays in and I hope he does, maybe we could start a mass mailing of physical cards of support to show his family and Mr Cain that we support them and are sympathetic to what is being done to their family.


39 posted on 12/03/2011 6:57:46 AM PST by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
BUT, he’s a good man and a great story, and I HATE HATE HATE that anyone can be sidetracked by what is obviously a manipulated smear campaign.

To paraphrase Clarence Thomas, Cain gave them the hammer to hit him with at this point. This all could have been dealt with before he entered the race. He could have come clean with his wife so she would not get blindsided by him never having told her about giving money to a woman. He didn't. Just what was he thinking? That he could keep this buried, and all that could be insinuated from such? And I defended him against the flood of unsubstantiated allegations. But this is his own words - that he never told his wife about it.

40 posted on 12/03/2011 6:57:49 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: CitizenM
how about someone getting the IRS to investigate her and her bank account. I expect this woman never reported any financial "gifts" as income. And I am sure the money given to here were not considered "loans." Wonder how much money she has begged for and received for which she never paid taxes? This is a woman who should be investigated and made to "spread the wealth" and pay her fair share

Picture this. "Thank you for coming to this pre audit Ms. White. I can tell you that you are in serious trouble with your taxes and may be facing several years in a federal prison unless you can come up with several million dollars.... I would like to offer you a solution however, If you will go on television and read this script I can make ALL of your troubles disappear. You see. you really have no choice here. Either you smear Mr. Cain or you go to prison and we sell your 5 year old daughter to a certain businessman in Thailand...."

41 posted on 12/03/2011 6:58:35 AM PST by Cowman (How can the IRS seize property without a warrant if the 4th amendment still stands?)
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To: CAluvdubya
” Could it be because the amount would seem miniscule by Cain’s wealthy standards? Hmmmm......”

Sorry, that makes no sense at all. If it was only a small amount it would benefit Cain to disclose it. He said his Attorney told to him NOT to answer. Total logic fail on that one.

42 posted on 12/03/2011 7:01:15 AM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: NautiNurse; All
PLEASE SIGN THE PETITION AT THE LINK to tell Mr. Cain to stay in the race, and fight the left-wing smears against his campaign. DO NOT let the Left decide our nominee!

Stand With Cain PETITION



43 posted on 12/03/2011 7:01:59 AM PST by montag813
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To: Cowman

I see reality has left the building.


44 posted on 12/03/2011 7:04:00 AM PST by DTxAg
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To: dirtboy

I give lots of money to lots of charities and or people that I know and don’t know, without telling my spouse. Over 40 years I’m sure it would add up to a considerable amount. There is nothing nefarious about it.

Matthew 6

1 Take heed that ye do not your righteousness before men, to be seen of them: else ye have no reward with your Father who is in heaven.

2 When therefore thou doest alms, sound not a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have received their reward.

3 But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth:

4 that thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father who seeth in secret shall recompense thee.


45 posted on 12/03/2011 7:05:04 AM PST by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: DTxAg
Any administration that would “walk” weapons to drug lords in an attempt to take down the 2nd amendment is capable of anything.
46 posted on 12/03/2011 7:07:38 AM PST by Cowman (How can the IRS seize property without a warrant if the 4th amendment still stands?)
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To: dirtboy

He is a Baptist preacher you ever think that maybe the money he gave was not his but the Lords(TITHES).
Not saying it is or it isn’t. Question then if it is the Lords money what does he supposed to do with it?

Deu 15:19
And the Levite, (because he hath no part nor inheritance with thee,) and the stranger, and the fatherless, and the widow, which are within thy gates, shall come, and shall eat and be satisfied; that the LORD thy God may bless thee in all the work of thine hand which thou doest.

So then what is a Levite.

Numbers 18:6
And I, behold, I have taken your brethren the Levites from among the children of Israel: to you they are given as a gift for the LORD, to do the service of the tabernacle of the congregation.

So then it this was the Lords money he is doing Exactly what he supposed to do. Help the needy and its between him and the Lord NOT him and his wife.


47 posted on 12/03/2011 7:07:48 AM PST by Bailee
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To: C. Edmund Wright
...I know, he’s assembled a very flawed team that includes a number of folks who themselves don’t understand what Cain is all about - and the notion of going into a “holding pattern” of 72 hours while you re-assess is just death by amateurism. (If you re-assess, do so in private while publicly you are full speed ahead!). BUT, he’s a good man and a great story, and I HATE HATE HATE that anyone can be sidetracked by what is obviously a manipulated smear campaign.

On one level I agree with you on not publicly re-assessing, but just think what would happen if he did it that way and got out.

Right here on this forum there would be people who would accuse him of keeping up a pretense just to get more contributions when he 'knew all the time he was getting out'.

Also, he's shooting straight and open with us which is one of the things we like about him. He's not a skank politician playing angles.

We need to find a way to dismantle the filthy and dishonest personal destruction corp and I hope he stays in and leads the way!

48 posted on 12/03/2011 7:08:12 AM PST by Sal (The Progressive AKA Communist media must be destroyed, discredited, and replaced.)
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To: NautiNurse

Agreed. I don’t know if he’s guilty of any of the allegations, but at this point needs to stay in the race. It’s either damaged him, or it hasn’t, and the only real test is going to be counted in votes.


49 posted on 12/03/2011 7:10:23 AM PST by Melas (u)
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To: Cowman

And true believers will concoct any scenario to keep the illusion going. It’s already been explained, White has no tax issues whatsoever in anything Cain gifted to her. If it was more that $13,000 in a year, it was Cain’s responsibility to report it to the IRS.


50 posted on 12/03/2011 7:10:39 AM PST by DTxAg
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