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LIVE THREAD: Huckabee's Republican Presidential Forum: 8/7 Eastern/Central 5:PM Pacific
FOX NEWS CHANNEL/MIKE HUCKABEE ^ | SATURDAY, DECEMBER 3, 2011 | onyx

Posted on 12/03/2011 4:00:01 PM PST by onyx

Watch the preview for the rules and a little insight about the questions and the questioners.



Short commercial ad first.

Six candidates are participating.



Eddie Haskell Hunstman has declined the invitation.



Herman Cain suspended his campaign today and will not participate.




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TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 6candidates; gopdebate; huckabeegopdebate; idontcheatnownewt; statesrights
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To: altura

Catching up here, or at least trying to ; } and in agreement with your post.

Sarah has been awesome from the get go, but I was always conflicted about her running. I would vacillate between being confident that there was no more damage the StateRunMedia could do to her, and worrying that they didn’t need to, because the so many of the sheeple still actually BELIEVED the meme from 2008!

Herman. Well. I often said that there were things I liked about Herman, and things I didn’t, but what I liked best was the fear that his successes instilled in BOTH the Left and in the Establishment Right. So I sent him $, and stuck solidly with him right up until the minute he admitted that his wife of forty years, knew nothing of his paying some woman,(that she also did not know), for thirteen years... Herman, Herman, Herman. A crying shame, for your family and for the nation. I pray for the healing of your marriage and your family, and that God is indeed, guiding our course.

Perry is next up on my list, and while I do have some serious hesitations, I understand and agree with the “No Perfect Candidate” school of thought.

Newt. As much as I respect and appreciate his knowledge of history, and do so thoroughly enjoy his skewering the Media ;} I just have one heck of a time believing him after so many policy switcheroos and the unbelievable Dede Scozzafava debacle : /

As for the rest, Paul is sharp on domestic, but absolutely terrifying on foreign policy and it seems that for any number of reasons, Bachmann and Santorum are just not catching fire. And neither is Huntsman,(Thank You Lord ;).

TinyPrintDisclaimerTime - All that being said, I think the bumper sticker that we need says, “Anybody but O, and Ro!”, LOL.

May God guide our course.
Tatt


801 posted on 12/03/2011 11:55:23 PM PST by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." DorothyBernard)
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To: BAW

Romney just said, “It’s been an interesting show to watch so far.” That means the candidates are watching in the back room. No CONE OF SILENCE? Hahahahaha, remember Zero complaining about that at the Saddleback debate in 2008?


First thing I noticed when Huck announced the order of the candidates’ appearances! Huck is a Romney supporter and it seems that most of the pundits on FoxNews are as well. Mitt was given the opportunity to hear all of the questions and responses by others so he could (hopefully) come out on top at the end.

Didn’t work for me, as I ranked them Perry, Santorem, Paul, Bachmann, Romney amd Gingrich. My rankings were based on plus/minus regarding whether they responded directly to a question or just blathered (like Newt, Santorem and Mitt) and on my personal bent regarding agree or disagree.

Strange that Santorem came in second on my personal ranking, because he is a smarmy, sanctimonious loser that couldn’t even get re-elected in his own State and endorsed a turncoat GOP Specter. He did, I guess, address the questions asked; however his problems involve always running his mouth and going off onto tangents about social values having nothing to do with the subject. He needs to go start his own church somewhere. .....JMO


802 posted on 12/04/2011 12:09:38 AM PST by octex
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To: onyx

Love ya gentle lady. You take care.


803 posted on 12/04/2011 12:11:21 AM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned.)
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To: Notwithstanding

You need to read up on Gore in 1988. He lost primarily for opposing Jesse Jackson’s anti-Israel stance.

Secondly, Perry was not a “big” supporter of Al Gore. All of the Dem reps signed on one day, but Perry never really did any campaigning for Gore and said he voted for Bush.
http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2011/sep/07/ron-paul/ron-paul-says-rick-perry-was-al-gores-campaign-cha/


804 posted on 12/04/2011 1:15:05 AM PST by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed, not afraid to use it. Cut spending, now,now,now!)
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To: caww

I do have serious problems with how he sees muslims....it sucks IMO and is dangerous for our country to have a Pres. who appeases them...and doesn’t have a strong grasp on their agenda..


That was your comment regarding Perry vs. Muslims, and you have repeated similar statements for weeks.

Can you provide a link or two to FR that would prove that Perry is appeasing Muslims? .....To me, your statements are the equivalent of others who constantly post that Perry is for open borders and amnesty for illegals.


805 posted on 12/04/2011 1:31:35 AM PST by octex
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To: katiedidit1

My support for Gingrich has been re-inforced after watching this forum. If Newt wins Iowa, comes close in NH and wins SC...he will soar. Not a single candidate is on his intellectual level.


His intellect and ability to talk like a blabbering university professor about history and what he has done or would propose to do has NOTHING to do with being a leader of a country that is in dire need of getting out of a deep hole that the Dems have put us in since they took control of Congress in Jan 2007 and the Exec in Jan 2009.

Newt has nothng to offer on most major issues beyond what Conservative candidates have already said; he just pontificates on what should be done in general terms.

I can see Newt possibly having a place in a new admistration, but it would certainly not be as POTUS.


806 posted on 12/04/2011 1:45:25 AM PST by octex
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To: Bokababe

“The Law” really is a great primer on the law and basic public ethics 101. I believe there’s a little bit more room for society to work together to protect inalienable rights through laws and even taxes, but if the country ran strictly by Bastiat’s code, we’d do fine.


807 posted on 12/04/2011 2:19:17 AM PST by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed, not afraid to use it. Cut spending, now,now,now!)
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To: truthfreedom

Perry ran Gore’s campaign for President in 1988 in Texas.


Another huge lie about Perry that you Perry bashers continue to post on any thread about him.

He was a State Rep. in the Texas House at the time and not a campaign manager for Gore in TX. In fact, he and others like him were called the “pit bulls” of the House because they were the “conservative” Dems and opposed the liberal leanings of the progressive Dems. He switched to Repub in 1989.


808 posted on 12/04/2011 2:20:02 AM PST by octex
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Mitt’s delivery was perhaps the most disjointed. And Mr. Perry’s closing was weak.


Everyones’ closing was ridiculous. It was just a stupid way to end the show. How can any candidate say much in one minute to convince anyone they are better than others.

Regarding Mitt... I ranked him 5th tonight on the interviews and Newt was last.


809 posted on 12/04/2011 2:29:03 AM PST by octex
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To: baysider

Fantastic! I love hearing him talk about Sam Johnston, defending life and our soldiers in the Middle East. He does a great job of endorsing Sandoval of Nevada, too.
“God bless ya, and through you, may God continue to bless the great State of Texas!” Amen!


810 posted on 12/04/2011 2:40:48 AM PST by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed, not afraid to use it. Cut spending, now,now,now!)
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To: octex

Pctex...your statement indicates you’re aware of the problem and my concerns...it’s been discussed before on FR., and for that matter since Perry began his run this has been an issue more than covered throughout the internet news sites avaiable to all.


811 posted on 12/04/2011 3:39:31 AM PST by caww
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To: caww

Plans can be bad, eg newt amnesty plan.
Besides, they tell about the judgement and priorities of the candidate.


812 posted on 12/04/2011 4:02:51 AM PST by heiss (heartless and inhumane)
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To: heiss

Newt’s plan on illegals... I am very much supportive of. We’ll differ on what that plan means as I adhere to the Immigration definition of Amnesty....which Newt does not support. No citizenship apart from going thru the laws already established.


813 posted on 12/04/2011 4:07:27 AM PST by caww
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To: mylife

Green energy as it is at this time is simply a revenue bucket to those appointed for Gov. funds...rather like a slush fund in many cases... in most countries..and is not working.


814 posted on 12/04/2011 4:11:54 AM PST by caww
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To: mylife

Global Warming remains a farce...and it will be...they are just regrouping...they’ll call it another name and try to inforce it but not any time soon.


815 posted on 12/04/2011 4:15:29 AM PST by caww
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To: caww

Perry = forcing young children to get VD vaccines without parental consent

Perry = nazi (aka Dem) party member - proud member of the official abortion party and the official big government party and the official public service union party and the official party of Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton (Reagan was a democrat when it was still plausible to be both a patriotic God-fearing constitutionalist and a dem)

Perry = giving hugely expensive benefits to illegal immigrants (stands by the law he signed forcing ridiculously subsidized government colleges to admit illegals as if they were legal Texas residents - tuition at these schools does NOT cover the cost of running them, so inm effect even illegals get thousands of dollars of free stuff if they sign up for Universidad Perry - and of course many illegals probably do not even pay tuition)

Perry = oops


816 posted on 12/04/2011 4:35:32 AM PST by Notwithstanding (1998 ACU ratings: Newt=100%, Paul=88%, Santorum=84% [the last year all were in Congress])
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To: caww

Perry = forcing young children to get VD vaccines without parental consent

Perry = former nazi (aka Dem) party member - proud member of the official abortion party and the official big government party and the official public service union party and the official party of Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton (Reagan was a democrat when it was still plausible to be both a patriotic God-fearing constitutionalist and a dem)

Perry = giving hugely expensive benefits to illegal immigrants (stands by the law he signed forcing ridiculously subsidized government colleges to admit illegals as if they were legal Texas residents - tuition at these schools does NOT cover the cost of running them, so inm effect even illegals get thousands of dollars of free stuff if they sign up for Universidad Perry - and of course many illegals probably do not even pay tuition)

Perry = oops


817 posted on 12/04/2011 4:37:08 AM PST by Notwithstanding (1998 ACU ratings: Newt=100%, Paul=88%, Santorum=84% [the last year all were in Congress])
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To: sanjuanbob

Don’t like Perry’s making the congress part-time.


Why? Texas does quite well by having the State Legislature meet only 140 days every TWO years, unless called into a Special Session by the Governor. As Perry said, they are only paid about $600 a month. Most don’t depend on the “taxpayers” to provide their income. They go back to their districts and run their businesses or work for someone else; they also are able to better assess the intents of their district constituents for various issues that will arise in the upcoming session.

The Fed Legislators use tax payer dollars to fly home, sometimes every weekend, take lobbyist paid junkets to foreign countries for “fact finding”, send out tons of junk mail, live like queens and kings in their lifestyles, etc. ....In spite of all of those benefits, the Fed legislators do little over the course of a year, other than maybe a half dozen significant bills. ....Why do we pay these clowns to have each other voting on naming a Post Office after someone that is unknown outside of the specific area??? ....Why do we sometimes see scenes on CSPAN where there is one person speaking and one person sitting in the big chair and there is no one else in the entire room (while still getting paid for being on the job)???

That’s a vast difference with the Federal Congress, whose members earn a lifetime pension now for only serving one term and a lot of their time is spent on junkets paid for by taxpayers and lobbyists. With their year long “service”, they actually spend very little time in session and it’s their staff personnel who do all of the research, write their speeches and draft the bills. ...Granted, that’s a generalization, and some of the elected in Congress may write their own lines for the public or bills to be presented.


818 posted on 12/04/2011 4:50:20 AM PST by octex
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To: caww

I did check newt and gw.
In 2007, newt publicly supported cap and trade (pbs interview).
He seens to sign on every trendy liberal cause eg amnesty, gw, fairness doctrine, al sharptons initiatives etc.


819 posted on 12/04/2011 4:57:33 AM PST by heiss (heartless and inhumane)
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To: caww

***That’s leadership...right from the get go and Newt’s at the helm of this!***

Great analysis.

Newt’s critics blast him for ‘being’ on all sides of an issue; which is ridiculous. The facts are that Newt looks to experts in science, medicine and energy for input on complex issues and presents them in the open for discussion.

His voting record should be examined along with the debates on which he based his decisions.

Friendly persuasion where possible and full frontal firepower when necessary.


820 posted on 12/04/2011 4:57:48 AM PST by sodpoodle ( Newter the Democrats and newtralize the RINOS - the Senate, House & WHouse)
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To: sodpoodle
Newt "Sybil" Gingrich can be Conservative Newt, Liberal Newt or Socialist Newt.

Here is Socialist Newt...


821 posted on 12/04/2011 5:03:21 AM PST by newfreep (I am a "terrorist". I am Sarah Palin!)
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To: newfreep

Newt’s (lazy)critics blast him for ‘being’ on all sides of an issue; which is ridiculous. The facts are that Newt looks to experts in science, medicine and energy for input on complex issues and presents them in the open for discussion.

His voting record should be examined along with the debates on which he based his decisions.

Friendly persuasion where possible and full frontal firepower when necessary.


822 posted on 12/04/2011 5:11:41 AM PST by sodpoodle ( Newter the Democrats and newtralize the RINOS - the Senate, House & WHouse)
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To: caww

Its a massive job but like you I think Newt will be up to it.


823 posted on 12/04/2011 5:14:20 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: caww

Pctex...your statement indicates you’re aware of the problem and my concerns...it’s been discussed before on FR., and for that matter since Perry began his run this has been an issue more than covered throughout the internet news sites avaiable to all.


Contrary to your presumtions, I am not aware of any problems related to Muslims or your concerns about them and how they could possibly connect to Perry. That’s why I originally asked if you could provide some links to prove your accusations.


824 posted on 12/04/2011 5:17:15 AM PST by octex
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To: onyx

I think your husband was right onyx.The die seemed to be cast for Cain.I’m all in for Newt as well. Its just that having written about him being 80/20 for over 4 years now, I’m always just a little bit apprehensive about Newt....say about 20% of the time.(LOL)


825 posted on 12/04/2011 5:17:44 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: caww

Pctex...your statement indicates you’re aware of the problem and my concerns...it’s been discussed before on FR., and for that matter since Perry began his run this has been an issue more than covered throughout the internet news sites avaiable to all.


Contrary to your presumptions, I am not aware of any problems related to Muslims or your concerns about them and how they could possibly connect to Perry. That’s why I originally asked if you could provide some links to prove your accusations.


826 posted on 12/04/2011 5:18:46 AM PST by octex
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To: Notwithstanding

Total agreement with what you stated.


827 posted on 12/04/2011 5:18:46 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: Notwithstanding

That’s not true about the (Gardasil) vaccination “without parent’s consent.”

The Legislature had given sole authority to the Department of State Health Services to mandate vaccines, just as they already did for Hepatitis B, which is given to newborns and which is transmitted by blood and bodily fluids.

However, it’s always been the law in Texas that we obtain consent for any vaccine from the parents. We already had an “opt out” procedure, but the parent had to write or visit Austin to ask for a certain form with a security seal to request the form for the opt out. The Governor advertised this opt out clause and made it easier for parents to request the form by ordering that the request be available online.

From RP65, the Executive Order in question:

http://governor.state.tx.us/news/executive-order/3455/
“Parents’ Rights.The Department of State Health Services will, in order to protect the right of parents to be the final authority on their children’s health care, modify the current process in order to allow parents to submit a request for a conscientious objection affidavit form via the Internet while maintaining privacy safeguards under current law.”

While the Dem party does endorse abortion, not all members, even today, are pro-aborts. We have a “Democrats for Life” here in Texas who are working within the Party to change the platform. I’ve been a speaker at their annual Convention.


828 posted on 12/04/2011 5:18:48 AM PST by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed, not afraid to use it. Cut spending, now,now,now!)
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To: onyx

If you do make sure you move north of our “Mason Dixon Line” which is called I-4,the badlands are all South.Also it would help if you are bi-lingual as English is fast becoming a second language.


829 posted on 12/04/2011 5:21:48 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: All

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We need Col Alan West in the new Republican administration

View this short video. (start about 1:39)
Col West explains most elequently why Islam is a danger to America:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkGQmCZjJ0k

He is one of the very few with guts enough to lay it on the line.

Watch this where Col West smacks down a smart a$$ muzzie who holds up a Koran and defies him to name where Islam is harmful to the U.S.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkWXEvOenNY

Another time, he made some remarks about Islamofacists and the muzzies demanded he apologize. “Hell, no”, he replied.

He does NOT back down.

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West on illegal immigration:

http://anotherblackconservative.blogspot.com/2010/05/lt-col-allen-west-on-illegal.html

“You want to dig up Charles Martel and ask him why him why he was fighting the Muslim army at the Battle of Tours in 732? You want to ask the Venetian fleet at Lepanto why they were fighting a Muslim fleet in 1571? You want to ask ... the Germanic and Austrian knights why they were fighting at the gates of Vienna in 1683? You want to ask people what happened at Constantinople and why today it is called Istanbul because they lost that fight in 1453? ...
Until you get principled leadership in the United States of America that is willing to say that, we will continue to chase our tail, because we will never clearly define who this enemy is, and then understand their goals and objectives—which (are) on any jihadist website—and then come up with the right (and) proper objectives to not only secure our Republic but secure Western civilization.”
Col Alan West

‘Make no mistake, we are a nation at war against a totalitarian theocratic political ideology that glorifies death rather than celebrating life. To defeat it, we must stay on the offensive. From Afghanistan and Iraq to the Greater Middle East and South America, radical Islam is on the march.
I will work to reestablish American Exceptionalism by growing and modernizing America’s Armed forces to ensure that we are prepared for the strategic challenges ahead. Like President Reagan, I believe that peace is best kept through a strong national defense.”

“And never forget this, my fellow Americans, in 1930 there was a gentleman in Germany that took away private gun ownership, and you know what happened to that population. You must be well informed and well armed because this government that we have right now is a tyrannical government, and it starts with this issue with illegal immigration.”
Col Alan West

“I think that illegal immigration – the operative word is ‘illegal’. It also says here in Article 1 Section 8 that you have to repel invasions. I think that anytime someone is coming across your border and they haven’t been invited, that can be considered what the founding fathers wrote as an invasion into your country
Col Alan West

“See our government wants to castigate us as the enemy. Our President went down and said that the problem is here in the United States of America. Well, you know, let’s face it. Wherever he goes he’s going to apologize for this country. I can’t stand the guy. I absolutely can’t stand him.”
Col Alan West

___________________________

Col West bio:

Lieutenant Colonel Allen West (US Army, Retired) was born and raised in Atlanta Georgia and is third of four generations of military servicemen in his family.
His parents instilled in him a very basic principle, love of God and Country.
In 2004, when it was time to retire from more than twenty years of service in the US Army, he brought his wife and two young daughters to Broward County, Florida, where he taught high school for one year. He then returned to Afghanistan as an advisor to the Afghan army, an assignment he finished in November 2007.

Allen West received his Bachelors degree from University of Tennessee and Masters degree from Kansas State University, both in political science.
He also holds a Master of Military Arts and Sciences from the US Army Command and General Staff Officer College in political theory and military operations.
“Education is the great equalizer,” he says. “With a good education, any child in America can live his dream.” Allen West knows that for our children to live their dreams, they need to be safe.
He has served in several combat zones: in Operation Desert Storm, in Operation Iraqi Freedom, where he was battalion commander for the Army’s 4th Infantry Division, and in Afghanistan, where he trained Afghan officers to take on the responsibility of securing their own country. In his Army career, Col.
West has been honored many times, including a Bronze Star, three Meritorious Service Medals, three Army Commendation Medals (one with Valor), and a Valorous Unit Award. He received his valor award as a Captain in Desert Shield/Storm, was the US Army ROTC Instructor of the Year in 1993, and was a Distinguished Honor Graduate III Corps Assault School.
He proudly wears the Army Master parachutist badge, Air Assault badge, Navy/Marine Corps parachutist insignia, Italian parachutist wings, and German proficiency badge (Bronze award).

Allen is an avid distance runner, a PADI Master certified SCUBA diver, motorcyclist, and attends Community Christian Church in Tamarac Florida. Excellence is a West family tradition. His wife, Angela, holds an MBA and PhD. and works as a financial planner. His oldest daughter, Aubrey, attends Archbishop McCarthy HS and his youngest daughter, Austen, attends Parkway Christian School.
http://allenwestforcongress.com/about

Col. West was bounced out of the military for the aggressive 2003 interrogation of a civilian Iraqi police officer who was suspected of having information about an ambush on American soldiers. When the officer wouldn’t cough up information that would protect American lives, Col. West fired his pistol past the detainee’s head into a clearing barrel. It did not harm the detainee in any way, but frightened him into giving Col. West information about the planned attack.

Not only did this information enable the military to thwart this particular ambush, there were no further ambushes on U.S. forces in this area until Col. West was relieved of his leadership post.

Col. West was asked at his hearing if he would do it again. “If it’s about the lives of my men and their safety, I’d go through hell with a gasoline can.”

In other words, Col. West is a genuine American hero. He should have received another medal for his actions instead of being driven from the U.S. military.

Col. West was a highly decorated officer at the time of this incident, having earned the Bronze Star and the Meritorious Service Medal (two Oak Leaf Clusters) in addition to numerous other awards and decorations.
http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/fischer/101112

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We NEED this smart, experienced, articulate man in the new republican administration- preferably as VP.

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830 posted on 12/04/2011 5:30:30 AM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: hocndoc

Perry’s law requires all kids to get sex disease vaccines - it is mandatory and no parental consent or notice is required. A parent must fill out and submit forms asking the government bureaucrats to not vaccinate their child. This is a typical situation where well-informed God-fearing parents who do object are then on the school’s shit list (of parents who are paying attention).

The official democrat platform since the 70’s has been “I love aborting little babies”. Perry was a proud member of the party while the party standard-bearers have been McGovern, fat Kennedy, Carter, Mondale, revvum Jackson and Clinton (and Ruth Bader Ginsburg), and Ann Richards. The party of Roe v Wade is NOT a conservative party - but it was his party of choice while that choice was convenient.


831 posted on 12/04/2011 5:38:01 AM PST by Notwithstanding (1998 ACU ratings: Newt=100%, Paul=88%, Santorum=84% [the last year all were in Congress])
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To: onyx

I would like to be optimistic. But I don’t see anyone up there with any passion about saving the country.


832 posted on 12/04/2011 5:45:52 AM PST by reasonisfaith (Or, more accurately---reason serves faith. See W.L. Craig, and many others.)
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To: org.whodat
Vt, beats Clemson starting at eight, no question as to which is most interesting.

Uhm, no. VT got caned. Not a good day for you. :(

833 posted on 12/04/2011 5:57:17 AM PST by World'sGoneInsane (Just because you say it doesn't make it true. By repeating it, just makes it propaganda.)
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To: World'sGoneInsane

Actually I was watching ok get beat. And before that LSU lay a stomping on ga.


834 posted on 12/04/2011 6:06:28 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Newt, Willard, Perry and his fellow supporters)
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To: Notwithstanding
When Perrywinkles throw up what Gingrich did in decades past...

You know, you insist on calling Perry supporters "Perrywinkles." You do not have to be derogatory.

835 posted on 12/04/2011 6:14:28 AM PST by World'sGoneInsane (Just because you say it doesn't make it true. By repeating it, just makes it propaganda.)
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To: World'sGoneInsane

“Look, pal. No amount of your ripping on candiates will help your man out of the cellar. You’ve spent a lot of time on FR recently using leftist garbage ripping on our conservative candidates. This is NOT appreciated. Advise you to spend more time promoting the better points of your own candidate and a whole lot less trolling against our conservatives!!”


836 posted on 12/04/2011 6:26:20 AM PST by Notwithstanding (1998 ACU ratings: Newt=100%, Paul=88%, Santorum=84% [the last year all were in Congress])
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To: Notwithstanding
You’ve spent a lot of time on FR recently using leftist garbage ripping on our conservative candidates.

You have me confused with someone else. I don't troll, and I don't call other posters names. I just pointed out to you that the term "Perrywinkle" should be left out.

It's not like I haven't thought to call some posters names, I just refrained from doing so. As a conservative, I prefer to take the higher ground, you should also.

837 posted on 12/04/2011 6:42:07 AM PST by World'sGoneInsane (Just because you say it doesn't make it true. By repeating it, just makes it propaganda.)
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To: sodpoodle

He looks to “experts” on science? So, what you are telling me is that Newt turned to scientists with agendas when he started pushing the global warming hoax? Not a smart man.


838 posted on 12/04/2011 6:46:21 AM PST by chilepup
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To: World'sGoneInsane

That was a direct quote from Jim Robinson’s recent post to you.

Unbunching your panties should make you feel a bit better.


839 posted on 12/04/2011 6:51:50 AM PST by Notwithstanding (1998 ACU ratings: Newt=100%, Paul=88%, Santorum=84% [the last year all were in Congress])
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To: chilepup

Good grief. Everyone was listening to Global Warming scientists until the UEA scandal was exposed.

Is Newt supposed to have ESP on every issue or is it better that he ask questions and start a discussion?

All his decisions are on the public record - including when he was wrong.

As POTUS will he continue to take direction from the people with advice and consent from the House and Senate?

I believe he will.


840 posted on 12/04/2011 6:54:33 AM PST by sodpoodle ( Newter the Democrats and newtralize the RINOS - the Senate, House & WHouse)
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To: World'sGoneInsane

You are a Perrywinkle.
Some are Mittbots.
Some are bong-using Paulbots.

I was open to all but Paul, Romney, Huntsman and Johnson - and now that things have settled out I am willing to support Newt. He is a known quantity who has actually delivered results for conservatives, who has proven leadership and communication skills, and is ready to restore America on day one.


841 posted on 12/04/2011 6:56:23 AM PST by Notwithstanding (1998 ACU ratings: Newt=100%, Paul=88%, Santorum=84% [the last year all were in Congress])
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To: Notwithstanding
This is NOT appreciated. Advise you to spend more time promoting the better points of your own candidate and a whole lot less trolling against our conservatives!!”

Well, then you should heed the advice. Stop ripping Perry supporters (calling them Perrywinkles) and promote the better points of your own candidate (rather than calling Perry a Nazi).

842 posted on 12/04/2011 6:58:05 AM PST by World'sGoneInsane (Just because you say it doesn't make it true. By repeating it, just makes it propaganda.)
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To: sodpoodle

“Good grief. Everyone was listening to Global Warming scientists until the UEA scandal was exposed.”

Good grief. Newt’s ad with Nancy Pelosi was 2007, the same year he said he “strongly supports cap-and-trade”. He lied about that yesterday.
Nobody with meaningful brain activity has been on the GW bandwagon for years.

Joining this sort of liberal trendy causes seems to be the defining element in Newt’s career (Amnesty, “radical rightwing social engineering”, Fairness Doctrine etc).


843 posted on 12/04/2011 7:06:54 AM PST by heiss (heartless and inhumane (just say no to amnesty))
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To: World'sGoneInsane

Obama, Clinton, Gore, Richardson and Senor Perry were all members of today’s nazi(aka dem) party.

The party of abortion. You know, the party that has murdered 50 million innocent babies?

Of course Senor Perry should get credit for bailing after the first 25 million murders.


844 posted on 12/04/2011 7:08:54 AM PST by Notwithstanding (1998 ACU ratings: Newt=100%, Paul=88%, Santorum=84% [the last year all were in Congress])
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To: BunnySlippers

Which primaries do you think Perry can actually win?

He’s in single digits everywhere right now and has done nothing to trend upwards. He’s gonna have to do a lot more than pull out a copy of the constitution.


845 posted on 12/04/2011 7:17:49 AM PST by AdamBomb
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To: AdamBomb

True. I’m just asking if the polls shift, that you consider him.

It’s early.


846 posted on 12/04/2011 7:24:30 AM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: BunnySlippers; All
If anyone missed the forum, here is a link to the entire videos

*VIDEOS* Mike Huckabee / Fox News Republican Primary Forum

847 posted on 12/04/2011 7:34:34 AM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: AdamBomb

Can someone confirm:

In the last 4 presidential primary seasons, did any primary candidate who was polling over 25% but after debating at least once went down to near single digits ever recover to rise up above 25% again?

That seems to be an unlikely situation.

-Gingrich has risen as a result of scrutiny.
-Those who have bursted up high fell under scrutiny (Perry, Bachmann, Cain).
-Romney won’t really allow scrutiny because he is always on script and refuses to reveal how he actually feels about anything (except when he expresses disdain at scrutiny).
-Paul can’t get traction despite 5 years of scrutiny.
-Santorum and Huntsman have not caught on despite scrutiny even though the volatility gave them plenty of chances to break through.


848 posted on 12/04/2011 7:35:40 AM PST by Notwithstanding (1998 ACU ratings: Newt=100%, Paul=88%, Santorum=84% [the last year all were in Congress])
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To: baysider

Thanks for posting that video of Perry campaigning. It was high energy and very right on! My sister told me that he ran through the crowd in Orlando shaking hands when he was here and she could not believe his energy. He did well in the debate tonight.


849 posted on 12/04/2011 8:34:49 AM PST by sheikdetailfeather ("Kick The Communists Out Of Your Govt. And Don't Accept Their Goodies"-Yuri Bezmenov-KGB Defector)
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To: LUV W

“I think after this my line up is Bachmann, Perry and Santorum.”

Did you watch the show after the debate on Fox? It was Judge Jeanine(something or other) and she had the three AG’s on as guests. It was interesting to hear their take on the answers to their questions. The AG from VA said that Bachmann didn’t answer some of the questions, but skirted around them. He said he tried to get her to be more forthcoming, but she wouldn’t. I thought that was interesting. All three of them felt that Newt could not be trusted. Hummmm.


850 posted on 12/04/2011 9:45:51 AM PST by native texan (Hard work, faith, thrift and one more word..."honesty")
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