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Coburn Blasts Gingrich, Found His Leadership ‘Lacking’ as House Speaker
The Hill ^ | 12/04/11 | Erik Wasson

Posted on 12/04/2011 8:43:32 AM PST by BarnacleCenturion

Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) said Sunday that he cannot support GOP presidential frontrunner Newt Gingrich because the former House speaker lacks leadership skills.

“I am not inclined to be a supporter of Newt Gingrich’s having served under him for four years and experienced his leadership. Because I found it lacking often times,” Coburn said on Fox News Sunday. The Oklahoma senator served in the House of Representatives from 1995 to 2001.

“There’s all kind of leaders, leaders that instill confidence and leaders that are somewhat abrupt, leaders that have one standard for the people that they are leading and a different standard for themselves,” he said. “I will have difficulty supporting him for president of the United States.”

Coburn in March said that he was looking for a president that would unite the country and raised questions about Gingrich’s confrontational style.

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1 posted on 12/04/2011 8:43:33 AM PST by BarnacleCenturion
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To: BarnacleCenturion
“I will have difficulty supporting him for president of the United States.”

Wow, Newt must have really pi$$ long and hard on his Wheaties!

Coburn feels the same way about Newt as I (and many other conservatives) feel about Romney.

2 posted on 12/04/2011 8:49:05 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

....”Gingrich is going to need to convince people he has changed. Conservatives must be ready to forgive him his sins. And as conservatives come to terms with Gingrich’s sins, they are going to be confronted by a man named Tom Coburn who wrote a book called Breach of Trust and a man named Robert Novak who wrote the foreword to that book. One excerpt will be particularly troubling to conservative activists currently enamored with Newt’s debating skills.


Gingrich either felt that he could not use his office to control spending or was not willing to lose his office to control spending. This goes to the heart of the matter: If your decisions are based on not losing a position, you cannot effectively serve the best long-term interests of the country.

Sen. Tom A. Coburn M.D.; John Hart. Breach of Trust: How Washington Turns Outsiders Into Insiders (Kindle Locations 1283-1285). Kindle Edition.


If Newt can withstand the rehashing of Tom Coburn’s book — a book that portrays Gingrich as talking the talk, but betraying the talk once in office — we may have our anti-Romney. If not, I think Rick Perry may yet have a second coming if he is ready. I say that having asked many callers to my radio show who are Cain supporters where they would go. Most say Newt. The others Perry. And if Newt implodes? They almost always say they’d go to Perry — Romney is rarely their choice.

Some excerpts from Breach of Trust below the fold.


Coburn made his presence felt immediately. It became clear to him that Speaker Gingrich, House Majority Leader Armey and the rest of the Republican leadership were not what they pretended to be. They were revolutionaries in name only, content to take possession from the Democrats of the machinery of government and then run it virtually unchanged. That froze in place the system of pork barrel spending that young Woodrow Wilson described in Congressional Government more than 130 years ago.”

Sen. Tom A. Coburn M.D.;John Hart. Breach of Trust: How Washington Turns Outsiders Into Insiders (Kindle Locations 55-58). Kindle Edition.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2813969/posts


3 posted on 12/04/2011 8:50:44 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: BarnacleCenturion

How the hell did we get into a situation with two flip flopping creeps as front runners?


4 posted on 12/04/2011 8:52:59 AM PST by montag813
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
And if Newt implodes? They almost always say they’d go to Perry — Romney is rarely their choice

"IF" Newt implodes? That's like saying IF the Sun rises tomorrow morning.

5 posted on 12/04/2011 8:55:07 AM PST by montag813
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Coburn is sour grapes.

Newt undoubtedly told the firebrand nuc em all congressman coburn to simmer down. The fact that newt didn’t conform to coburn’s precise bomb delivery plan is now said to be a lack of leadership.


6 posted on 12/04/2011 8:58:07 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: montag813
"How the hell did we get into a situation with two flip flopping creeps as front runners?"

Because when Santorum endorsed Specter in 2004 at the behest of his president and party, he committed an egregious unforgiveable error and needed to be entirely removed from consideration from the outset of the campaign.

When Newt endorsed Scozzafava in 2009, sat on the couch with Nancy, and cheated on his wives, he just committed small lapses in judgment for which he's apologized and we should just "move on."

7 posted on 12/04/2011 9:01:06 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

I know well another person who served as a Conservative in the House with Newt. He says the same things about Newt; that he can become a loose canon and that he is considered unorganized and unpredictable; a solo player. I have heard the same things from insider Senate staff who also work with conservatives.

I think we will be hearing a LOT more of this anti-Newt talk from the R’s...

As the scrutiny goes deeper than his obvious well-spoken and knowledgeable persona, I think his stock will fall.


8 posted on 12/04/2011 9:01:16 AM PST by JustTheTruth
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Coburn endorsed Alan Keyes in the 2000 Republican presidential primaries.

‘Nuff said.


9 posted on 12/04/2011 9:01:45 AM PST by jessduntno ("They say the world has become too complex for simple answers... they are wrong." - RR)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

I know well another person who served as a Conservative in the House with Newt. He says the same things about Newt; that he can become a loose canon and that he is considered unorganized and unpredictable; a solo player. I have heard the same things from insider Senate staff who also work with conservatives.

I think we will be hearing a LOT more of this anti-Newt talk from the R’s...

As the scrutiny goes deeper than his obvious well-spoken and knowledgeable persona, I think his stock will fall.


10 posted on 12/04/2011 9:02:13 AM PST by JustTheTruth
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To: BarnacleCenturion


This Tom Coburn?
11 posted on 12/04/2011 9:06:23 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Sen. Tom Coburn (R-OK), was scored by the Washington Post on the percentage of votes on which a lawmaker agrees with the position taken by a majority of his or her party members. The scores do not include missed votes. Their summary:
Voted with Republican Party 82.8% of 290 votes.


12 posted on 12/04/2011 9:06:56 AM PST by jessduntno ("They say the world has become too complex for simple answers... they are wrong." - RR)
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To: jessduntno

Coburn is a helluva lot more conservative than Newt.


13 posted on 12/04/2011 9:09:35 AM PST by bigdirty
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To: jimbo123
Yeah, a picture is worth a thousand words, isn't it?

(Photo with Pelosi on couch ommitted to prevent overuse)

14 posted on 12/04/2011 9:09:41 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

The real crux is we have a field of flawed candidates and folks take turns further beating them down. At this rate we won’t have anyone left standing who is deemed pure enough for the position. It looks like I need to go back to considering my toaster for the position....


15 posted on 12/04/2011 9:10:52 AM PST by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

PRESS ADVISORY

January 28, 2000

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Contact: Connie Hair
Phone: 818-512-3432

Coburn Endorses Keyes for President

MANCHESTER, N.H. - U.S. Rep. Tom A. Coburn (R-OK) today endorsed Ambassador Alan Keyes for the Republican nomination for President, calling him “the one candidate for President who actually understands what is wrong with our country and who has the vision, the courage, and the clarity of principle to put it right.”

Coburn is a practicing physician who has earned a reputation as a leading budget hawk during his three terms in Congress.

Coburn declared that “Keyes has shown repeatedly that he has a better grasp on the issues...than any other candidate.” But Coburn decided to announce his support for Keyes not on the basis of any specific issue, but because of Keyes’s “recognition that national leadership in our day is not about policies and not about political solutions to political problems. It is a matter of moral leadership to address a moral crisis.”

Comparing Keyes to Abraham Lincoln, the Oklahoma Congressman declared that “Alan Keyes has the capacity to ignite among us another rebirth of freedom.”

“Some people tell me Alan Keyes has little chance to be elected President,” acknowledged Coburn. “But my heart and my conscience tell me that Alan Keyes is the man who should be President. And to my way of thinking, doing right means doing what your heart and your conscience tell you.”

Coburn is the first Member of Congress to endorse Keyes for President. Dr. Coburn’s prepared statement is reprinted below:

“It is clear to me that Alan Keyes is the one candidate for president who actually understands what is wrong with our country and who has the vision, the courage, and the clarity of principle to put it right.

Ambassador Keyes has shown repeatedly that he has a better grasp on the issues – the foreign policy, the fiscal policy, the social policy and all the rest of it – than any other candidate. But choosing a president is not a scholarship contest. The mere fact that he knows more about the issues than any other candidate is not what qualifies Mr. Keyes to be our President.

The real difference Alan Keyes brings to this campaign is his recognition that national leadership in our day is not about policies and not about political solutions to political problems. It is a matter of moral leadership to address a moral crisis.

Alan Keyes is the one man who has come forward to pose the proper question: what are we doing with the liberty that has been bequeathed to us by God through the sacrifices of our forebears, and what should we be doing with it?

Like Abraham Lincoln, Alan Keyes has the capacity to ignite among us another rebirth of freedom. He will bring us together as a nation by reminding us of what it is that makes us one nation. Alan Keyes will be a great President because the Presidency is not merely a matter of issues and policies but of moral leadership.

Some people tell me Alan Keyes has little chance to be elected. My heart and my conscience tell me Alan Keyes is the man who should be President. And to my way of thinking, doing right means doing what your heart and your conscience tell you, not what someone else tells you.

That is why I am proud to announce my endorsement of Alan Keyes for President of the United States.”

Paid for and authorized by Keyes 2000.


16 posted on 12/04/2011 9:13:38 AM PST by jessduntno ("They say the world has become too complex for simple answers... they are wrong." - RR)
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To: bigdirty

Coburn is a helluva lot more conservative than Newt.

See post #16


17 posted on 12/04/2011 9:15:08 AM PST by jessduntno ("They say the world has become too complex for simple answers... they are wrong." - RR)
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To: JustTheTruth
Bill Clinton Praises Newt Gingrich
18 posted on 12/04/2011 9:17:27 AM PST by BarnacleCenturion (Heartless & Inhumane)
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To: Joe 6-pack




Is this the same Tom Coburn who voted for TARP? Or is this a different Tom Coburn?
19 posted on 12/04/2011 9:20:38 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

In May 2011, the Senate Ethics Committee identified Coburn in their report on the ethics violations of Senator John Ensign. The report stated that Coburn knew about Ensign’s extramarital affair and was involved in trying to negotiate a financial settlement to cover it up.


20 posted on 12/04/2011 9:21:22 AM PST by jessduntno ("They say the world has become too complex for simple answers... they are wrong." - RR)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
Coburn is known to have a warm personal relationship with President Obama.

That explains it.

21 posted on 12/04/2011 9:21:59 AM PST by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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To: jessduntno

Coburn’s vote for TARP was conservative?


22 posted on 12/04/2011 9:26:24 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123
"Is this the same Tom Coburn who voted for TARP?"

TARP? ROTFLMAO!!

"In 2008, he (Gingrich) hailed John McCain's efforts in the crafting of the TARP legislation: Gingrich put out a statement hailing McCain's eleventh-hour intervention. "This is the greatest single act of responsibility ever taken by a presidential candidate and rivals President Eisenhower saying, ‘I will go to Korea'. Eisenhower's pledge was enough to reassure voters that if elected he would find a way to resolve the Korean conflict. McCain's high-octane involvement in the bailout is meant to convey the same sense of stature and leadership, and to provide cover to reluctant Republicans to support a deal that runs counter to everything they thought they stood for...here was Gingrich, in all his infinite political (un)wisdom, hailing McCain's idiocy as if it were both statesmanlike and genius."

23 posted on 12/04/2011 9:26:38 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: JustTheTruth

On May 24, 2007, the US Senate voted 80–14 to fund the war in Iraq. Coburn voted nay. On October 1, 2007, the Senate voted 92–3 to fund the war in Iraq. Coburn voted nay. In February 2008, Coburn said, “I will tell you personally that I think it was probably a mistake going to Iraq.”


24 posted on 12/04/2011 9:33:11 AM PST by jessduntno ("They say the world has become too complex for simple answers... they are wrong." - RR)
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To: jimbo123

Coburn’s vote for TARP was conservative?

Heh heh heh...

On May 24, 2007, the US Senate voted 80–14 to fund the war in Iraq. Coburn voted nay. On October 1, 2007, the Senate voted 92–3 to fund the war in Iraq. Coburn voted nay. In February 2008, Coburn said, “I will tell you personally that I think it was probably a mistake going to Iraq.”


25 posted on 12/04/2011 9:34:37 AM PST by jessduntno ("They say the world has become too complex for simple answers... they are wrong." - RR)
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To: Joe 6-pack

So you supported Coburn’s TARP vote?


26 posted on 12/04/2011 9:36:11 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: jessduntno

Coburn is also good buddies with Dick Durban. So it’s no surprise that he refused to support our troops in Iraq.


27 posted on 12/04/2011 9:37:49 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

Of course not. You agreed with Newt’s hailing of TARP? (I mean, his views before he changed his views. Hard to pin a guy down to one side when he tends to flip flop.)


28 posted on 12/04/2011 9:43:36 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Humm let’s see just WHERE IS the “Colburn Government Reduction Act of ANY YEAR”??? Bueller, Bueller, Bueller...! This guy(Colburn) runs his mouth alot but produces NOT MUCH!


29 posted on 12/04/2011 9:46:22 AM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Coburn the Gyno-RINO is not someone to be taken seriously.


30 posted on 12/04/2011 9:47:51 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: US Navy Vet

Coburn proposed massive tax increases as a member of the so-called bi-partisan “Gang of Six”. He’s a RINO and a member of Team Romney.


31 posted on 12/04/2011 9:51:17 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Everyone knows Newt’s sins. If they support him, its for two reasons. They remember the glee with which he used to beat the snot out of Clinton back when he was implementing his “Contract for America” and the way Clinton was forced to back down time and time again and then claim credit for what Gingrich forced him to sign.

And they see his obvious willingness to fight when he’s on the debate stage, and his command of detail, and his ability to run rings around his opponents.

They will have to forgive the fact that, once Clinton had the goods on him, he went weak in the knees during impeachment. They’ll have to forgive his support for Scozzafava, when he was being (as he often is) too clever for his own good. They’ll have to forgive his acceptance of Global Warming as settled issue (though as I recall his approach was to try and show that the free market was the solution to this non-problem). They’ll have to forgive his faithlessness as a husband; the fact that he didn’t lie under oath about it doesn’t buy him much credit. We know his enemies will make a lot of hay about him going after Clinton when he was having his own affair.

This guy has a lot of baggage and he has disappointed a lot of people. But what I wouldn’t give to see him running rings around Obama on the debate stage.

I have said any number of times that my favorite four were Bachmann, Santorum, Cain, and Newt in no particular order. Cain has imploded, Bachmann and Santorum are getting stronger all the time, and I like them more and more as they go along. Newt? He’s always going to be problematic. But I have to say I love it when he steps up to the podium and opens up another broadside against the Obamists; no one does it as well as he does.


32 posted on 12/04/2011 9:52:25 AM PST by marron
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To: BarnacleCenturion

In April 2011, Coburn spoke to Bloomberg TV about Obama, saying, “I love the man. I think he’s a neat man. I don’t want him to be president, but I still love him. He is our President. He’s my President. And I disagree with him adamantly on 95% of the issues, but that doesn’t mean I can’t have a great relationship.”


33 posted on 12/04/2011 9:53:13 AM PST by jessduntno ("They say the world has become too complex for simple answers... they are wrong." - RR)
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To: jimbo123
"Coburn the Gyno-RINO is not someone to be taken seriously."

See, that's not how a conversation works. You asked if I supported Coburn's vote on TARP. Like a fool, I had the courtesy to dignify your question with an answer, "no." I rejoined with a question to you, whether you agreed with Newt's initial hailing of TARP, and McCain's role in crafting it. You obviously could not muster the courtesy or dignity to reply in kind, but simply offer, "Coburn the Gyno-RINO is not someone to be taken seriously."

Gee, thanks for your opinion. I'll take it for everything it's worth.

34 posted on 12/04/2011 9:53:49 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Back then, Coburn was pretty conservative, so he likely knows what he is talking about. Now, Coburn is as bad as Newt, unfortunately. He needs to be replaced, and Newt needs to be sent back home to his latest wife.


35 posted on 12/04/2011 9:56:32 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Back then, Coburn was pretty conservative, so he likely knows what he is talking about. Now, Coburn is as bad as Newt, unfortunately. He needs to be replaced, and Newt needs to be sent back home to his latest wife.


36 posted on 12/04/2011 9:56:43 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Back then, Coburn was pretty conservative, so he likely knows what he is talking about. Now, Coburn is as bad as Newt, unfortunately. He needs to be replaced, and Newt needs to be sent back home to his latest wife.


37 posted on 12/04/2011 9:56:50 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: montag813
How the hell did we get into a situation with two flip flopping creeps as front runners?

Ace of Spades humorously asked the same question with this article.

Life Imitates South Park. Again.

It's coming down to this?

Or this?

South Park's take on the issue.

38 posted on 12/04/2011 10:00:17 AM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus sequitur Patrem)
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To: bert
Newt undoubtedly told the firebrand nuc em all congressman coburn to simmer down. The fact that newt didn’t conform to coburn’s precise bomb delivery plan is now said to be a lack of leadership.

Newt was in the wrong. Coburn was in the right. Past history demonstrates which one had the better understanding of what is wrong in Washington.

39 posted on 12/04/2011 10:02:51 AM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus sequitur Patrem)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
Tom Coburn is from the DeMint wing of the party (or as DeMint once phrased it, the other way around).......if it still has serious concerns, I will listen to him.

Coburn has built up enough credibility as a real conservative to be worthy of listening to, and he did it, not by words or speeches or interviews, but by deeds.

40 posted on 12/04/2011 10:06:49 AM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Joe 6-pack
When Newt endorsed Scozzafava in 2009, sat on the couch with Nancy, and cheated on his wives, he just committed small lapses in judgment for which he's apologized and we should just "move on."

What is wrong with Newt is more than just momentary lapses of Judgement. It is an indication that he is not a "true believer" and that he has become too much the poll driven politician. I recall the media spanking him hard with "the Gingrich that stole Christmas" headline, and the "Whiny baby shut down the government because he didn't get his way on Air-Force one" headline among others.

Apart from his complete tone-deafness regarding enemy media, he has done too many things that no true believer would have even contemplated. The media will KILL Newt if he should get the nomination, and I have little doubt he will back-stab us should he win. (As did George H.W. and to a lesser extent George W. Bush)

41 posted on 12/04/2011 10:09:24 AM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus sequitur Patrem)
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To: jimbo123
This Tom Coburn?

And your point is what? Should he have spat in his face? Some people believe the "air of legitimacy" engenders a respect for the office. While *I* may not agree, most people do in fact believe it is proper to maintain the illusion of civility.

42 posted on 12/04/2011 10:13:11 AM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus sequitur Patrem)
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To: jimbo123

“A sterilization Coburn performed on a 20-year-old woman, Angela Plummer, in 1990 became what was called “the most incendiary issue” of his Senate campaign. Coburn performed the sterilization on the woman during an emergency surgery to treat a life-threatening ectopic pregnancy, removing her intact fallopian tube as well as the one damaged by the surgery. The woman sued Coburn, alleging that he did not have consent to sterilize her, while Coburn claimed he had her oral consent. The lawsuit was ultimately dismissed with no finding of liability on Coburn’s part.”

You remember, don’t you? While you under the anesthetic and I said you don’t want to ever have babies again, do you? And the anesthesiologist waggled her head back and forth.?


43 posted on 12/04/2011 10:14:22 AM PST by jessduntno ("They say the world has become too complex for simple answers... they are wrong." - RR)
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To: marron
"...And they see his obvious willingness to fight when he’s on the debate stage, and his command of detail, and his ability to run rings around his opponents."

Why is having the ability to debate the single most critical thing for a president? What about character and being steadfast?
44 posted on 12/04/2011 10:16:26 AM PST by Rooivalk
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To: jessduntno

So Coburn Endorsed Keyes? What of it? Keyes is a lot better man than what we have now running the nation, and in many respects I regard him as a lot more reliable than is Newt Gingrich. At least I don’t have a dread that he will go against me when it comes to decision time.


45 posted on 12/04/2011 10:17:42 AM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp

” At least I don’t have a dread that he will go against me when it comes to decision time.”

We’ll never find out. He couldn’t get elected dog catcher.


46 posted on 12/04/2011 10:20:54 AM PST by jessduntno ("They say the world has become too complex for simple answers... they are wrong." - RR)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

The issue here isn’t Newt’s Conservatism, but rather his leadership capability.

When the GOP retook the House after the 1994 election, it was pretty clear that Newt was the idea/vision guy ... but it was really Armey who was running the place on a day-to-day basis.

Newt’s the guy you want in the basement coming up with policy papers, and I have concerns that his deliberative and professorial decision and policy-making approach won’t be a good match to the demands of the Presidency.

If it comes down to Newt vs. Romney it’ll be a mirror image of the Dems in 2008 where Obama was the ideological visionary and Hillary! was the pragmatic leader.


47 posted on 12/04/2011 10:21:35 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: DiogenesLamp

Understanding what is wrong and being able to do something about it besides hurling molotov cocktails is a far different kettle of fish.

Newt was leader. He knew better than to make a nuclear strike that would be ineffective. Coburn did not.

Conservatives, especially radical conservatives never learn the lesson.

Politics is the art of the possible


48 posted on 12/04/2011 10:26:42 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: jimbo123
Coburn is also good buddies with Dick Durban. So it’s no surprise that he refused to support our troops in Iraq.

You are mischaracterizing Tom Coburn. You allege he voted against funding Iraq because he is against the troops. This is a nasty accusation and in my opinion an intentional distortion of Tom Coburn's record. I do not know why he voted against funding the war, but I am D@mned certain it had nothing to do with a refusal to support our troops.

Tom Coburn does things for reasons of principle, and if he voted against a defense appropriations bill, I am willing to accept his judgement as to the need to do so over yours. I have more confidence in Tom Coburn's ability to do the right thing than I do in anyone else sent to Washington. He has done so consistently, over and over again, and so in my mind he has a long enough record of doing the right thing so that I may regard any deviations by him as being for a good reason. (Though I might not know what it is until I dig into it deeper.)

49 posted on 12/04/2011 10:27:01 AM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus sequitur Patrem)
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To: US Navy Vet
Humm let’s see just WHERE IS the “Colburn Government Reduction Act of ANY YEAR”??? Bueller, Bueller, Bueller...! This guy(Colburn) runs his mouth alot but produces NOT MUCH!

1/100th of the Senate has no power without a minimum of 39 other Senators in support. (And that just STOPS bad legislation in the Senate. It cannot create any.) It takes 60 Senators to actually DO SOMETHING in the Senate.

Given how much the deck is stacked against him (even some of OUR Senators vote with the Democrats!) I do not fault him for being unable to advance legislation. No drug addict wants it's drug (federal dollars) taken away.

50 posted on 12/04/2011 10:31:09 AM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus sequitur Patrem)
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