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Rick Santorum: I'm Next
ThirdAge ^ | December 4, 2011 | Mark DeLucas

Posted on 12/04/2011 6:00:55 PM PST by presidio9

Former Pennsylvania senator and Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum told ABC News' “This Week” that he expects to soon supplant surging rival Newt Gingrich and become the Republican favorite.

“So if you look at all of these little boomlets, they last about four to six weeks. Newt is in about week three,” Santorum said.

“So we feel pretty good that, you know, come the middle of December and toward the end of December, as candidates are looking for a candidate they can trust, someone that is authentic, someone who knows what they believe in and why they believe it, and has a record to back up the rhetoric as to what they want to do to change this country, because we do need big changes, well, who has been doing that?”

As “This Week” host Christine Amanpour noted, Santorum tied with Jon Huntsman for last in the most recently conducted Des Moines Register Iowa poll (Iowa's primary, the nation's first, is scheduled to take place Jan. 3). Santorum, however, was non-plussed.

"We're within the margin of error of both Rick Perry and Michele Bachmann, both of whom have had enormous attention by the national media, and have had money and resources," Santorum argued. "Rick Perry is running literally millions of dollars of ads in Iowa, and he is right next to me in the polls."

Although the logical connection between Perry's failures and Santorum's future success was never made explicit, Santorum emphasized the strategic importance of “character.”

“"I think character is definitely an issue," the former Pa. senator said. "I think they have to make a decision based upon the person's entire record. And certainly character counts."

Consequently, “I think we have a very good chance of winning Iowa," Santorum said. "We've spent the time in the state, we've talked to the activists… And we'll have people at those caucuses advocating for us because I've been in their county. They know my message. They know what I want to accomplish."


TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: character; christineamanpour; conservatism; jonhuntsman; michelebachmann; newtgingrich; notmittromney; pennsylvania; rickperry; ricksantorum; santorum
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

If you’re a pure socon, Santorum does have a good record.


101 posted on 12/04/2011 7:57:45 PM PST by truthfreedom
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To: katiedidit1
"What did Toomey say about Santorum?"

I have no idea; however, I'd be willing to bet that just like Hoffman's remarks about Gingrich, whatever Toomey had to say probably said more about Toomey than they did about Santorum.

102 posted on 12/04/2011 7:59:34 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: katiedidit1

Yes, that’s why people were upset with Santorum.

Much like Newt supported Dede, in a more recent, high profile case.

Except that Specter was the incumbent, and Dede wasn’t. And it’s really bad form to not support the incumbent, apparently.

Santorum and Specter were not the same. Specter was a RINO, Santorum wasn’t.

Just with that one Dede support, Newt is worse than Santorum. What else bad is there about Santorum?


103 posted on 12/04/2011 8:02:54 PM PST by truthfreedom
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To: Joe 6-pack
Actually, if you are a Roman Catholic, like myself, Gingrich, and Santorum, the character issues are moot. St. Paul is the baseline for this assumption. But even if they weren't, if likely Republican voters don't seem to care about Gingrich's overblown character issues, what makes you think that they are could possibly matter in a general election? I'll help you out with this one: They won't.

Policy-wise, Gingrich and Santorum agree on nearly EVERYTHING. The real difference between the two is that one can win, and one may run out of money before the Iowa caucus. Feel free to guess which is which.

104 posted on 12/04/2011 8:05:00 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: truthfreedom

The local republicans endorsed Dede...not the primary voters. Santorum whom all claim to be Mr Social Conservative sold out to the establishment . Santorum lost the senate race in pA and his poll numbers are in the single digits. Santorum would lose and lose big time


105 posted on 12/04/2011 8:06:26 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: truthfreedom

The local republicans endorsed Dede...not the primary voters. Santorum whom all claim to be Mr Social Conservative sold out to the establishment . Santorum lost the senate race in pA and his poll numbers are in the single digits. Santorum would lose and lose big time


106 posted on 12/04/2011 8:06:36 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: presidio9

I guess the idea is to surge just in time to put a lock on all the primary’s.


107 posted on 12/04/2011 8:07:29 PM PST by Venturer
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To: presidio9
Give it time. All Santorum needs to have happen is for the Gingrich, Bachmann, and Perry campaigns to blow up again. This time spectacularly and irretrievably. After which, he needs for Palin to not then decide her decision not to get in, and at that point he will be sitting pretty. This nomination has always been about Romney vs. “not Romney” (I wish I had trademarked that six months ago), and it still is, regardless of what Gingrich is saying.

If Perry and Bachmann were going to make any comebacks, it would have been within the last month during the allegations against Cain. After the allegations, Perry was still dropped and Bachmann still stayed about the same. You have to remember that the reasons why people bailed on Bachmann and Perry still exist and have not changed.

If Santorum can't make any gains after the next debate in 4-5 days, I don't see him rising enough before Iowa.

Santorum doesn't have the problems that Bachmann and Perry do, but then again, Santorum can't even carry his own state.

I'm not happy about it, but Gingrich is in a good spot and out of all of the candidates, he's the best at defending his record and personal life.
108 posted on 12/04/2011 8:08:11 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: truthfreedom; All

From a pro life blog...Those of you who follow the pro-life movement know that Sen. Arlen Spector is nothing more than a lap dog for the abortion industry. He is a “RINO” - Republican in name only. To this day, I can still hear Santorum’s radio ads for Arlen Spector in my mind. Pro-life Pennsylvanians know what I am talking about. Spector’s Republican primary challenger in 2004 was prolifer Pat Toomey. Toomey - with no money - barely lost to Spector 51%-49%. Chalk up the prolife candidate’s loss to Rick Santorum’s ads for Spector, which particularly targeted Christian radio stations.

Over the course of the last six months, pleas for help came in from Santorum’s office. I was brutally honest with his staff, and told them Santorum had alienated his pro-life base in Pennsylvania, and would lose the election in November. I wrote that I would not hurt Santorum, but neither would I help him - he was on his own. Prolife Pennsylvanians have a long memory, and despise betrayal. We were betrayed by Santorum’s support of the proabort Spector, and are still angry. Very angry.

Santorum’s problem is he became part of the “good ol’ boy” club in Washington. You scratch my back, and I will scratch yours. Radio talk show host Glenn Beck says that Santorum lost due to his unpopular speeches on the war on terror. Well, as Beck would say, “Not so much.” In Santorum’s scratching a pro-abort’s back, he doomed his political future. He alienated his base, and thus would have lost regardless of who the Democrats put up against him. It was, arguably, the worst political move ever made. Prolifers do not take well to betrayal as Rick Santorum knows well now.


109 posted on 12/04/2011 8:12:50 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: katiedidit1
That was because he backed Snarlin Arlen against the present PA Conservative Republican Senator PT. PA was less Conservative then, and ole Arlen won. Conservatives were mad at Santorum,and voted third party or stayed home,and he lost.

Things are not what they appear to be at times.

Santorum is very well qualified, and should be considered,especially before a backstabbing adulterer.

110 posted on 12/04/2011 8:14:10 PM PST by samantha ( Sarah Palin TEAple leader to save America. Herman Cain & Santorum)
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To: katiedidit1

I was on the Cain Train to a Better American but due to a breakdown, I transferred at Santorum Station. We are now full speed ahead and am looking forward to reaching our destination on time.


111 posted on 12/04/2011 8:14:39 PM PST by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: Java4Jay

No, I am 100% behind Newt. On Santorum..Those of you who follow the pro-life movement know that Sen. Arlen Spector is nothing more than a lap dog for the abortion industry. He is a “RINO” - Republican in name only. To this day, I can still hear Santorum’s radio ads for Arlen Spector in my mind. Pro-life Pennsylvanians know what I am talking about. Spector’s Republican primary challenger in 2004 was prolifer Pat Toomey. Toomey - with no money - barely lost to Spector 51%-49%. Chalk up the prolife candidate’s loss to Rick Santorum’s ads for Spector, which particularly targeted Christian radio stations.

Over the course of the last six months, pleas for help came in from Santorum’s office. I was brutally honest with his staff, and told them Santorum had alienated his pro-life base in Pennsylvania, and would lose the election in November. I wrote that I would not hurt Santorum, but neither would I help him - he was on his own. Prolife Pennsylvanians have a long memory, and despise betrayal. We were betrayed by Santorum’s support of the proabort Spector, and are still angry. Very angry.

Santorum’s problem is he became part of the “good ol’ boy” club in Washington. You scratch my back, and I will scratch yours. Radio talk show host Glenn Beck says that Santorum lost due to his unpopular speeches on the war on terror. Well, as Beck would say, “Not so much.” In Santorum’s scratching a pro-abort’s back, he doomed his political future. He alienated his base, and thus would have lost regardless of who the Democrats put up against him. It was, arguably, the worst political move ever made. Prolifers do not take well to betrayal as Rick Santorum knows well now.


112 posted on 12/04/2011 8:16:02 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: katiedidit1

All you say is true. However, when asked by Jake Tapper when life begins, he stated “at implantation.” Any Pro Abort could claim the same (and many abortifacients work be preventing implantation). He royally goofed, and Santorum with 7 kids was soon to correct him and his error. Rick is also Catholic.


113 posted on 12/04/2011 8:17:09 PM PST by Frank Sheed (Fr. V. R. Capodanno, Lt, USN, Catholic Chaplain. 3rd/5th, 1st Marine Div., FMF. MOH, posthumously.)
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To: Java4Jay

No, I am 100% behind Newt. On Santorum..Those of you who follow the pro-life movement know that Sen. Arlen Spector is nothing more than a lap dog for the abortion industry. He is a “RINO” - Republican in name only. To this day, I can still hear Santorum’s radio ads for Arlen Spector in my mind. Pro-life Pennsylvanians know what I am talking about. Spector’s Republican primary challenger in 2004 was prolifer Pat Toomey. Toomey - with no money - barely lost to Spector 51%-49%. Chalk up the prolife candidate’s loss to Rick Santorum’s ads for Spector, which particularly targeted Christian radio stations.

Over the course of the last six months, pleas for help came in from Santorum’s office. I was brutally honest with his staff, and told them Santorum had alienated his pro-life base in Pennsylvania, and would lose the election in November. I wrote that I would not hurt Santorum, but neither would I help him - he was on his own. Prolife Pennsylvanians have a long memory, and despise betrayal. We were betrayed by Santorum’s support of the proabort Spector, and are still angry. Very angry.

Santorum’s problem is he became part of the “good ol’ boy” club in Washington. You scratch my back, and I will scratch yours. Radio talk show host Glenn Beck says that Santorum lost due to his unpopular speeches on the war on terror. Well, as Beck would say, “Not so much.” In Santorum’s scratching a pro-abort’s back, he doomed his political future. He alienated his base, and thus would have lost regardless of who the Democrats put up against him. It was, arguably, the worst political move ever made. Prolifers do not take well to betrayal as Rick Santorum knows well now.


114 posted on 12/04/2011 8:20:36 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: katiedidit1

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2816091/posts

Damage control. How many retakes does this man want? I have seen his discussions on YouTube and they are impressive. However, is this just professorial sophistry? Or, does he speak before he thinks?


115 posted on 12/04/2011 8:22:34 PM PST by Frank Sheed (Fr. V. R. Capodanno, Lt, USN, Catholic Chaplain. 3rd/5th, 1st Marine Div., FMF. MOH, posthumously.)
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To: Jonty30
Newty just runs on his sentences and hogs the time. He deserves an attaboy for bitch slapping the rats and media, but how long before his monologues get old,and he back stabs conservatives. Twice now he has felt over confident that he has won,and he runs to the left like he is skipping the primaries and going right to the General Election. Yukky!
116 posted on 12/04/2011 8:23:27 PM PST by samantha ( Sarah Palin TEAple leader to save America. Herman Cain & Santorum)
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To: dragnet2

Target rich environment right there.


117 posted on 12/04/2011 8:28:31 PM PST by RasterMaster ("To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: All

Just for the record, I am a Social-conservative, willing to give Santorum a look. He is for the family and we should pay attention to that!


118 posted on 12/04/2011 8:31:01 PM PST by ElPatriota (The SILENCE of the Catholic Church in protecting our culture from perversion is ** DEAFENING **)
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To: katiedidit1
There is no excuse for his tantrum on Scuzzyfava,he acted like a three year old banging his head on the floor. That district has never come back to Republicans since that mess he got us into.
119 posted on 12/04/2011 8:34:41 PM PST by samantha ( Sarah Palin TEAple leader to save America. Herman Cain & Santorum)
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To: bigbob
Who in hell is giving Santorum money?

People who refuse to settle for non-conservatives like Gingrich.

120 posted on 12/04/2011 8:35:55 PM PST by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: presidio9
With Cain taken out by DNC-media scandal-mongers and RINOs pushing a non-story, Santorum gets my vote. Next choice would be Bachman. If there ever was a need for a strong conservative, the time is certainly now.

The rest of the field are establishment RINOs who've said nothing to deserve consideration as a candidate other than "I'm not Obama", will be just another repeat of 2008 - a weak-kneed RINO nominee and end with another four years of Obammunism.

121 posted on 12/04/2011 8:40:06 PM PST by RasterMaster ("To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: katiedidit1
Bob Smith is looking for work,he cannot even figure out where he wants to live or run for office. His endorsement is worth nothing.

He is very nice man, but a one note johnny.

122 posted on 12/04/2011 8:42:34 PM PST by samantha ( Sarah Palin TEAple leader to save America. Herman Cain & Santorum)
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To: RasterMaster

By Santorums endorsement of a huge rino...pro abortion...shows Rick compromised his social values. Bachmann is a loser


123 posted on 12/04/2011 8:46:54 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: katiedidit1
I don't think you know much about that Northern NY district, it should have stayed Republican. Most of rural NYS is Conservative Republican,and Newty should have stayed out of it.
124 posted on 12/04/2011 8:50:14 PM PST by samantha ( Sarah Palin TEAple leader to save America. Herman Cain & Santorum)
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To: Frank Sheed
He should have been on probation after becoming Catholic not that long ago. He is a hypocrite.
125 posted on 12/04/2011 9:01:18 PM PST by samantha ( Sarah Palin TEAple leader to save America. Herman Cain & Santorum)
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To: katiedidit1

You’re just giving details.

Yes, like Newt supported Dede, who was bad, Santorum supported Specter, who was bad.

That was a bad thing that Santorum did.

Newt supported Dede, and keeps cheating on his wives and divorcing them.

Santorum does not cheat on his wives and divorce them.

We know that what Santorum did with Specter was bad.

What else did Santorum do that was bad?


126 posted on 12/04/2011 9:02:57 PM PST by truthfreedom
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To: katiedidit1

Newt Gingrich: Hillary Clinton ‘Terrific’ Defense Secretary
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2010/11/newt-gingrich-hillary-clinton-terrific-defense-secretary/

Newt: Hillary Is the ‘Most Effective’ Candidate
http://archive.redstate.com/stories/elections/2008/newt_hillary_is_the_most_effective_candidate

Newt: Hillary shows courage, integrity
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7851.html

Oddly, Hillary and, Yes, Newt Agree to Agree
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/13/nyregion/13hillary.html

Newt & Nancy....Gorebull Warming
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a0f_1322697042&comments=1

Newt Gingrich Al Sharpton Education Tour
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UPuhr8eqn0

Political Chameleon Newt Gingrich Has a History of Working with Democrats
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/12/02/political-chameleon-newt-gingrich-has-a-history-of-working-with-democrats.html

I can’t see supporting someone with such poor judgment. The loser are those who believe anything the establishment RINO is selling.


127 posted on 12/04/2011 9:07:56 PM PST by RasterMaster ("To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Windy City Conservative
So Gingrich gets to challenge whoever he wants to debates,

I've said put Obambi in the 18 GOP debates. He has no challenger and the DNC-presstitutes aren't hitting him with any questions on the same issues that are "tripping up" the Republican challengers.

The Republican Party crack-up is in full swing. Were is a conservative to go?

You haven't been paying attention, have you? I agree we need a solid conservative candidate in this primary. But the sad news I have to tell you is that even though Democrats (moderates and extreme-socialists) are upset with Obama, he has no primary so the Rats will be voting in large numbers in the GOP primaries (even larger than the cross-over voting where they gave US McCain and then proceeded to vote Obama in November).

The DUmass party needs to vent their frustration at THEIR candidate rather than hijacking THIS party.

Open primaries are stupid. Register in a party and then vote in the primary NEXT cycle, none of these shenanigans (recall that in 2008 Floriduh and Michigan had no Democrat primary that was to be recognized).

128 posted on 12/04/2011 9:12:07 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Since Obama's only challengers in 2012 are in the GOP debates, including him the next 15.)
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To: Jonty30
Perry has a tough time beating anyone in a debate because he keeps shooting himself in the foot.

He reminds me (and will remind too many voters) of George W. Bush. But without the integrity.

Santorum is actually a fairly decent debater. He shredded Bob Casey in their only televised debate in 2006. But Casey's handlers made sure it was aired on a time slot and station which nobody watched. So it really didn't make any difference.

Now, if Rick Perry wanted to move to Pennsylvania and take on Bob Casey Jr., that could be an interesting debate.

129 posted on 12/04/2011 9:21:46 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: presidio9

He means, Next to drop out.


130 posted on 12/04/2011 9:25:45 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: fatnotlazy

Sued Penn Hills to foot the bill for his children’s education? His children were enrolled in the PA cyber charter school which is funded by property taxes which he paid on his property in Penn Hills. That whole thing was orchestrated by teacher’s union and Fast Eddie Rendell.


131 posted on 12/04/2011 9:36:33 PM PST by Eagles6
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

what the hey....I’m jumping on Santorum’s bus this week.


132 posted on 12/04/2011 9:59:38 PM PST by Scotswife
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To: presidio9

Santorum isn’t bad, ideology-wise ... but I think he’s unelectable, simply because every time he’s on TV, he looks like a deer in the headlights. He just has a slightly wild-eyed look that in front of the camera, looks like fear (or simple nuttiness!).

Not electable. Next?


133 posted on 12/04/2011 10:26:50 PM PST by Hetty_Fauxvert (Our GOP candidates: Good grief, is this really the best field we can put together???)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

“Hope it’s a misquote.”

Hardly.

“While in the House, he played a key role in uncovering the House bank scandal. In the Senate, he crusaded for a balanced budget amendment and partial-birth abortion ban”

excerpt http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/the-case-for-rick-santorum/2011/04/14/AFhEhpdD_blog.html


134 posted on 12/04/2011 10:38:37 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: All

“25.5 Giuliani +11.7
13.8 Huckabee
13.7 McCain
13.2 Thompson”

excerpt http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/2012_2008_gop_presidential_race_4_years_ago.html

Four years ago today should show us how volatile polls are and the 2012 election is wide open!


135 posted on 12/05/2011 12:32:40 AM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: truthfreedom
"What else did Santorum do that was bad?"

Apparently JimRob is either sleeping or sick, otherwise he would be here telling everyone on this thread what Santorum is all about.

136 posted on 12/05/2011 1:28:05 AM PST by japaneseghost
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To: japaneseghost

Well, clearly the answer isn’t so clear. I really just want “the list of bad things about Santorum” I’m not arguing there isn’t one.

I suspect that Newt’s list of bad things is much longer than the Santorum list.


137 posted on 12/05/2011 1:57:34 AM PST by truthfreedom
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To: presidio9

What? Next to be accused of sexual harrassment or having had a decade’s long affair? Enquiring minds want to know..


138 posted on 12/05/2011 1:58:35 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: presidio9

As would I, but America has shifted wayyy too far leftward for a guy like Santorum to ever have a chance of winning the general election.

Much as we wish they might, some things are simply never going to happen.


139 posted on 12/05/2011 2:46:06 AM PST by ScottinVA (I miss America.)
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To: katiedidit1

That all sounds plausible, but...

The supposely “pro-life” Bob Casey is an ardent supporter of Obamacare and most everything else on Obama`s wish list... yet leads ever potential challenger by a wide margin. Sounds to me the “outrage” is of a more selective variety.

And BTW... the “conservative” Pat Toomey, though not yet in office, expressed verbal support for the repeal of DADT. How did that square with the social conservatives? Did he consign himself to a single term as well?


140 posted on 12/05/2011 3:03:48 AM PST by ScottinVA (I miss America.)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

Maybe you can overlook it but neither I nor millions of other conservatives will EVER forgive Santorum for backing Specter over Toomey in ‘04.

How could any self-professed conservative DO such a thing???


141 posted on 12/05/2011 4:12:19 AM PST by Scanian
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To: MrEdd

“Perry is right there with Romney in my pile of socialists I wont vote for under any circumstance.”

Perhaps you can educate me, cause I haven’t made up my mind yet, but what exactly puts Perry in the same league as Romney as a socialist? He looks pretty solidly conservative to me except for Gardisil (minor issue) and his support for in-state tuition for illegals. Seems to me that Gingrich and Perry have very similar positions on almost all the issues, so is Newt also in your “pile of socialists”, and if so, who do you deem “worthy” of your support(that’s still in the race)?


142 posted on 12/05/2011 4:20:33 AM PST by lquist1
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To: presidio9

Santorum can forget it, so can Michele. Conservatives will not support conservatives.

You can look at this thread with the insults at real conservatives and the desperate pathetic elevation of a guy who debates good, has no executive experience, is fickle on conservative principles, and declared the era of Reagan dead.

But....you can always keep your fingers crossed and do a lot of hoping he will be able to exercise control of himself and his pompous azz.


143 posted on 12/05/2011 4:20:37 AM PST by dforest
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To: Mercat

It will come down to Perry or Santorum or Bachmann if certain people get over they’re catty jealousy because they wanted Palin.Newt is fourth in the line on my list.The only thing that interests me about Newt is he said West for VP.I could deal with that.


144 posted on 12/05/2011 4:40:51 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: indylindy

Did we just say the same thing kind of but I was more blunt?


145 posted on 12/05/2011 4:44:34 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: MrEdd

How is Perry a socialist and not Gingrich?Makes no sense unless someone is blogging for media matters to divide and conquer.


146 posted on 12/05/2011 4:49:52 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

I’m an anybody but Obama voter.


147 posted on 12/05/2011 5:08:10 AM PST by Mercat
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
There were 3 people I already know about that knew Palin was not going to run very early on.

Glenn Beck, Franklin Graham, Donald Trump. Guaranteed, they all knew.

Palin did not want the job. She loves the campaign part, but the job that is at the end of it will be a beeyotch. Better to sit back and wait to see if the atmosphere of the country changes. She is young yet.

Michele most likely knew Palin wasn't running either and that is why she jumped in the race as a conservative female candidate. All she got for it was insults and grief. Some still use “gaffes” as an excuse, as though Palin doesn't have a number of gaffes under her belt too.

But all of that is water under the bridge and irrelevant now. I don't think Perry can come back because of his earlier poor debate performances and his “heartless” comment. He also sounds like Bush and nobody wants a replay of that. Even though that is probably exactly what our nominee will get. Media Hate 24/7.

Cain gone, I like Herman the man and the others, including Santorum and Bachmann, could learn a thing from him. He has a very positive, people loving and optimistic attitude. He also has a self deprecating humor. He makes people smile.

Good attitude is good business. You can see why he did well. Herman had some policy work to do and he should have really got that down if he wanted to get to the top and stay there. However, foreign policy is fluid right now and can be picked up around the right people.

Toss the rest of them in in, Newt, Romney, Huntsman and you have a crap shoot. Problem is I don't know if any of them can win because they turn off many in their own party. LOL

The wildcard would be Trump entering. LOL He is supposed to meet with Trump real soon. That should be a hoot. Two big egos trading bullshoot over who is the bestest. Oh man.

148 posted on 12/05/2011 5:17:18 AM PST by dforest
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To: Jonty30

So Gingrich is afraid of “small fry” Santorum? Will he be afraid of Putin and/or the Chinese premier, as well?

That’s America needs a risk averse president.


149 posted on 12/05/2011 5:17:32 AM PST by dools0007world
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To: Windy City Conservative

The Republican Party crack-up is in full swing. Were is a conservative to go?

It’s not really a crackup. Reagan dragged a bunch of conservatives into the GOP but neither he nor the conservative voters were ever welcome. Where to go is a good question.


150 posted on 12/05/2011 5:24:09 AM PST by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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