Posted on 12/05/2011 9:39:52 AM PST by Sub-Driver
Impossible. McCain made Bob Dole look exciting.
Really? So unless one is married in THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, Catholics don’t considered you married at all?
Quite the opposite. That is why so many people seek annulments before entering the Church. If what you say here were true then Newt wouldn't have needed one. If, however, two Christians were married then, in the eyes of the Church, their marriage would be assumed to be valid and so any problems must be assessed before any other sacraments are received. For instance, if a person wants to be Catholic and they have divorced and remarried they have a problem. The Church does not recognize divorce and so they are technically still married to the first person. The only way they can be Catholic and continue in their current marriage is if the first happens to have been invalid due to some question of matter or form. Perhaps they were too young, or maybe their first spouse was also their first cousin, or something like that.
Unfortunately many annulments are now automatic and seem based on nothing, making them nothing more than Catholic divorces. But this is just an abuse and doesn't really negate the value of the definition of Christian marriage or the necessity of proper form and matter. The actual concept just recognizes that not all marriages are valid from the start and so admits that a sacramental union was never actually in existence.
My first thougt, as well. Nancy has to realize that for all the time that Nancy was in the House with Newt, Newt was in the House with Nancy - and in a more senior position. I'm sure he has the goods on her if it comes to that.
Sorry, but Marriage is civil AND religious construct. The Church is only concerned about the religious. Marriages outside the Catholic Church ARE NOT considered religious marriages BY THE CHURCH of ROME.
What’s she gonna do? “Kiss and Tell” about their time on the couch together?
Name calling as in making fun of my intelligence all over someone that is not even running is ridiculous.
Sorry, but Marriage is civil AND religious construct. The Church is only concerned about the religious. Marriages outside the Catholic Church ARE NOT considered religious marriages BY THE CHURCH of ROME.
Your smug and sanctimonius “The Catholic Church IS THE ONLY Church” attitude has been duly noted.
(Make sure you watch part two below) and you want to squabble over whether Palin would have been alinskyized too quit again? Logic prevails she would have been.It is a waste of time; the only reason I brought it up was because of the few comments in here thinking Palin could save us now. I am still waiting for the apologies from all those that called Bachmann and Perry RINO’s all in favor of Palin and are now Newt supporters.It makes no sense.Watch below.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlkPkJInUmU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIiJE6kdIBo&NR=1&feature=endscreen
We must defeat Obama if we all have to camp out in peaceful protest in DC day and night...
Except that Nancy really has nothing to lose - she's not running for the presidency. She can spout all the trash she wants (and knowing Newt's past - there is probably plenty for her to get the shovel out for).
That would be about as stupid as putting Jamie Gorelick on the the 9/11 commission.
Oh wait....
You must be smoking more than frogs to make a statement like that.
Yes where are the Republicans coming out against Pelosi and her threats? Telling her it would be an Ethics violatin?
Silence as usual. This what I mean when I said Dems fight like Bull-dogs and Repubs like Labradors....
Issa should open an investigation up on Pelosi..that should shut her up.....
“”four of us locked in a room in an undisclosed location for a year””
Our fondest dream - to see Pelosi locked up for a year.
Does that room still exist? We can dream, can’t we?
From what I've heard and been told she can not by law talk about anything that was discussed in a ethics hearing. I hope she blabs and Newt brings charges against her.
Sorry, but Marriage is civil AND religious construct. The Church is only concerned about the religious. Marriages outside the Catholic Church ARE NOT considered religious marriages BY THE CHURCH of ROME.
I am afraid you are overstating the situation. The Catholic Church does in fact recognize the marriages of Protestants and other Christians, and this is exactly why annulments are sought by people coming into the Church. If such marriages were not seen as binding by the Church there would be no problem at all, but they are and so must be addressed when there have been divorces and remarriages. The only such marriages which the Church doesn't recognize are those which actually have been annulled, so to speak, and this was because they lacked something in matter or form, not because they were performed outside of the Church.
I'll second that motion. Palin is the only potential late entry candidate I can think of, who's got the 'full package', and can galvanize the majority of center-right voters under one tent.
And as you said, she's already had her closets inspected.
How about you just knocking it off already with the PDS?
I do not excuse Gingrich for being a bad husband, we are all lacking in perfection. Yet to hear some talk , you would think he strangled his former wives and buried them in the back yard.
I absolutely agree. The thing which makes me most sad in all of this is not that I may or may not support Newt, but that he is being treated with less esteem than seems to be given to liberals. We can see this when people say things like rather than voting for him they would not vote at all, which is of course saying that what we have now is actually better. Can any conservative, of even the meanest kind, prefer Obama to any of the current GOP candidates? Such hyperbole does nobody any good at all and only helps the real enemy who is most certainly not Newt. I will take a less than perfect husband with at least some conservative ideals over Obama any day.
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