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The weird ‘controversy’ of Tim Tebow
NY Post/National Review ^ | December 5, 2011 | Rich Lowery

Posted on 12/06/2011 3:45:11 PM PST by presidio9

In Denver Broncos quarterback Tim Tebow, the football gods have offered up a star that every father in America should be grateful for (provided they don’t root for a rival team in the AFC West).

Tebow is respectful, wholesome and a man of God. He has no obvious failings besides an inaccurate throwing arm.

If Disney were to concoct the plot of a movie about an altogether admirable young man who joins the NFL and is scorned by all the experts for his unorthodox style, yet wins week after week, Tebow would play the lead. In fact, at this point Disney could make it a documentary.

Nonetheless, Tim Tebow is considered “controversial.” It’s now cutting-edge to be a straight arrow. It’s countercultural to be an outspoken Christian. A player who embodies everything meant by the cliché “role model” is for his critics a figure of fun, or even hatred.

Tebow is widely mocked -SNIP-

By any reasonable standard, though, Tebow is a blessing. He won’t be getting arrested for groping a woman at a Halloween party (Julian Edelman), for accidently shooting himself with the Glock he smuggled into the dance club (Plaxico Burress) or for running a dog-fighting ring (Michael Vick).

He won’t be taking performance-enhancing drugs. He may or may not continue his success on the field, but he will do everything he can to respect his teammates and his God.

Here is a prominent player who will almost certainly never require fathers to make awkward explanations to their kids about some spectacular scandal. Rejoice, America, rejoice.

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1 posted on 12/06/2011 3:45:15 PM PST by presidio9
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Tebow is the most hated man in sports because of his outfront Christianity. There is a sports talk show here in Chicago which just seethes with hatred for him, Boers ? and
Bernstein. While the hosts generally rant against anything that promotes decency, they go totally berserk at the thought of Tim Tebow. Foaming, in fact.
2 posted on 12/06/2011 3:50:32 PM PST by arrogantsob (Obama must Go.)
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To: presidio9

Having been born in the Phillapine Islands to American parents he is building a Children’s Hospital there valued at $30M. The Tebow Foundation.


3 posted on 12/06/2011 3:52:50 PM PST by CIDKauf (No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar.)
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To: presidio9
I swear I heard one of the San Diego announcers say something like, "I don't advocate violence in football but, someone needs to smack Tebow in the face. They to hit him hard so he quits running with the ball".

Hmmmmm, sounds like advocating violence to me!

The last boy scout quarterback I remember that was made fun of......for awhile, was Roger Staubauch! They didn't laugh for long. I hope Tebow gives 'em what for on the field with his ability. All the way to the bank!

4 posted on 12/06/2011 3:53:08 PM PST by CAluvdubya
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To: arrogantsob

“Tebow is the most hated man in sports”

Oh baloney. Not even close. Boers and Bernstein just don’t think he’s a good QB. They don’t hate personally him at all they mock him because they mock most everything.


5 posted on 12/06/2011 3:54:12 PM PST by Borges
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To: CAluvdubya

There was similar talk about Kurt Warner because he was an openly Christian player.


6 posted on 12/06/2011 3:55:04 PM PST by CIDKauf (No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar.)
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To: presidio9

Media promotes and loves dysfunctional people. It makes them feel normal.

They hate people like Tebow....there is no need for government agencies and many of the people who promote dysfunction and services, if you have a population of Tebows.

There is also the Cultural War on God-—they are trying to destroy Christianity—the Founding ideas of Natural Rights come from God. The ideology (Theology) which creates individualism, compassion, love, emotional security—etc.

The press and government want a world of sex addicts/druggies so they have a bunch of useful idiots to manipulate.


7 posted on 12/06/2011 3:55:27 PM PST by savagesusie
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To: CAluvdubya

That’s football talk.


8 posted on 12/06/2011 3:56:02 PM PST by Borges
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To: presidio9

As far as I can see, the only controversy surrounding Tim is that he lives in a country full of people whose only god is government, and they don’t want any one else believing in any thing other than government.

We truly live in Sodom.

God Bless you, Tim.


9 posted on 12/06/2011 3:56:02 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: arrogantsob

I can’t stand the Broncos, but I respect the guy for the amount of vitriol he faces and he just goes out and plays and witnesses his faith.

I haven’t done a real study of it, but I have not heard a lot of current or ex-NFL players do more than provide mild criticism of this or that about his game...and his game does have holes...but the non professional sports guys all seem united in their disdain.


10 posted on 12/06/2011 3:57:07 PM PST by perez24 (Dirty deeds, done dirt cheap.)
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To: presidio9

Just another example of the destruction of America by the evil media. All the thugs, wife beaters, dopers and scum in the NFL get a pass from the media.
The NFL gets a fine upstanding young player and the lib media blasts him endlessly.
Same thing in politics. Any republican that is ahead in the polls gets trashed by the media while the commie muzzie in the white hut gets no truth told about him.


11 posted on 12/06/2011 3:57:10 PM PST by taillightchaser (The last hope for America--2012)
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To: presidio9

Some players can get caught with 6 strippers and a bag of crack, find god (not God) the very next day and be praised for it. In fact, they become football analyst on national TV and have radio shows.


12 posted on 12/06/2011 4:04:46 PM PST by VicVega (LSU is without a doubt the #1 team in the nation. GEAUX TIGERS, Geaux Saints)
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To: presidio9

He’s put the fun back in football in Colorado, so that’s been nice.

The liberal/gay/castrati/beta-male culture has good reason to fear (hate) him. He clashes with their loser/victim self-image.

He showed some improvement in his throwing mechanics Sunday. We’ll see if that continues.


13 posted on 12/06/2011 4:05:30 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (....The days are long, but the years are short.....)
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To: VicVega
Some players can get caught with 6 strippers and a bag of crack, find god (not God) the very next day and be praised for it. In fact, they become football analyst on national TV and have radio shows.

In fairness, I am a big Tim Tebow fan, but my favorite football player of all time will always be Lawrence Taylor, because he was the best football player in every game he ever played in.

14 posted on 12/06/2011 4:08:47 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: presidio9
Nonetheless, Tim Tebow is considered “controversial.” It’s now cutting-edge to be a straight arrow. It’s countercultural to be an outspoken Christian. A player who embodies everything meant by the cliché “role model” is for his critics a figure of fun, or even hatred.

This Tebow thing has done nothing but increase, and I didn't think it was possible; hatred of sports MSM.

Do they mock Vick as frequently?

Or the clumsy dancer with the gun in sweatpants?

What they should be talking about is whether this player is going to redefine excellence in his position.

Meanwhile the NFL gets more interesting. The 49ers, by shear chemistry wins the division early.

The Packers, well how can such a small market continue to dominate the biggest sport in America?

15 posted on 12/06/2011 4:10:16 PM PST by cicero2k
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To: Borges
I understand football talk. Heck, I'm a cowboys fan and we recieve a lot of trash talk. This sounded different. It was as if they added the last part about teaching him a lesson not to run w/the ball. I've heard that a million times, even said it myself.

I can't describe the tone in the guys voice but it hit me very wrong.

16 posted on 12/06/2011 4:10:55 PM PST by CAluvdubya
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To: cicero2k
The Packers, well how can such a small market continue to dominate the biggest sport in America?

Revenue sharing. Look into it.

17 posted on 12/06/2011 4:12:13 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: presidio9

I don’t think Tebows arm is as weak as been reported. He seems to work very hard on his throwing mechanics. Its only a matter of time before he gets good with it. Chad Pennington had a weak arm but was accurate and smart. Tebow is the same but also a lot stronger and more durable than Chad. Tebow is a winner and Denver is fortunate to have him.


18 posted on 12/06/2011 4:12:53 PM PST by tflabo (Restore the Republic)
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To: presidio9

It is the spirit of antichrist which is active in the world and has been for two thousand years paving the way for Antichrist himself.


19 posted on 12/06/2011 4:14:04 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: presidio9

Mine was directed more to Prime Time and Michael Irvin. Haha.


20 posted on 12/06/2011 4:14:48 PM PST by VicVega (LSU is without a doubt the #1 team in the nation. GEAUX TIGERS, Geaux Saints)
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To: presidio9
The collective talking-heads, former players turned “analysts”, clueless sports column guys and gals, traditional losers sticking to QB tradition, radio talk show vapid know-nothings don't get young Tim. The kid has heart, he's a winner, he's a future icon, he breaks the mold.

You cannot coach heart, you cannot coach character.

21 posted on 12/06/2011 4:16:32 PM PST by alarm rider (I took the pledge, I will never vote for another RINO, not now, not ever.)
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To: tflabo
I don’t think Tebows arm is as weak as been reported. He seems to work very hard on his throwing mechanics. Its only a matter of time before he gets good with it. Chad Pennington had a weak arm but was accurate and smart. Tebow is the same but also a lot stronger and more durable than Chad. Tebow is a winner and Denver is fortunate to have him.

There have been plenty of mobile quarterbacks with less than spectacular throwing mechanics. The difference with Vick is that he is white.

Oh, and none of the other guys began their career 6-1 as starters.

22 posted on 12/06/2011 4:16:49 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: presidio9

John 15:18 “If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first’


23 posted on 12/06/2011 4:32:22 PM PST by WKB (Anything Obama: "What a revoltin' development this is")
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To: arrogantsob
Tebow is the most hated man in sports because of his outfront Christianity.

Plus he is pro-life, his mother & he made a pro-life advertisement for the 2010 Superbowl. Nothing will get liberals, including the MSM and Sport media, faster into a raging frenzy than a born again Christian wholesome young man who is also pro-life. Jesus said if the world hated him, it will hate you as well for following Jesus. And last of all, Tebow is white, and that flies in the face of today's political correctness in which being black is now deemed worthy of extra praise & fawning over, and being white is now deemed to be worthy of contempt. For proof of this, Greg Jennings (GB-wide receiver) always drops to his knees and points skyward whenever he scores a TD, and the sports media would never dare to criticize him... but if Tebow makes a mild gesture of praise, the media will jump all over him for that. More hypocrisy from the deranged left wing.

24 posted on 12/06/2011 4:32:48 PM PST by rcrngroup
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To: F15Eagle

And he may be in our WH. Does the organization “Fellowship of Christian Athletes” still exist? I need to check on that. I believe there is a huge number of Christian NFL players as well as other professional and college sports.


25 posted on 12/06/2011 4:36:17 PM PST by Jukeman (Texas Guy born and bred and proud of it.)
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To: CAluvdubya
“The last boy scout quarterback I remember that was made fun of......for awhile, was Roger Staubauch!”

Funny you should mention him!

When Staubach retired, so did my watching football. Tebow is about the first person in decades that can actually make me bother to turn on the set during the game.

26 posted on 12/06/2011 4:36:48 PM PST by I cannot think of a name
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To: presidio9

Tebow likes to say “Hard work beats talent when talent doesn’t work hard.”

Who doesn’t love that line of thought?


27 posted on 12/06/2011 4:38:23 PM PST by PaleoBob
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To: Jukeman

I think they do. A former associate was working there a couple years ago.


28 posted on 12/06/2011 4:43:07 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: presidio9
In fairness, I am a big Tim Tebow fan, but my favorite football player of all time will always be Lawrence Taylor, because he was the best football player in every game he ever played in.

Saw Taylor at Giants stadium against the Iggles. I tell people that you couldn't really quite see the time between the ball snap and him making a tackle. He was so fast there was some kinda time warp. Nobody who didn't see him seems to believe it. Was a rough day for a Philly fan.

29 posted on 12/06/2011 4:47:37 PM PST by Stentor ("All cults of personality start out as high drama and end up as low comedy.")
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To: tflabo
"I don’t think Tebows arm is as weak as been reported. He seems to work very hard on his throwing mechanics."

Tebow has worked on his foot work. As a result his release is becoming quicker, and his accuracy is improving. If he keeps working (and he will), he will continue to disappoint his detractors.

30 posted on 12/06/2011 4:50:30 PM PST by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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To: rcrngroup

Jennings is not that rare among the black athletes who make quick prayer-like gestures after a good play.


31 posted on 12/06/2011 4:50:51 PM PST by arrogantsob (Obama must Go.)
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To: arrogantsob

We have local sports writers/radio guys that have been mocking Tim Tebow since he made his NFL debut. They are complete jerks about him. They should be embarrassed for their juvenile behavior.

My hubby and I actually rooted for Tebow against our team because of the antics of some of these so-called football “authorities”.


32 posted on 12/06/2011 4:51:42 PM PST by Shelayne
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To: Shelayne

I love football and have had Bears season tickets for decades but I can rarely stomach these shows. I call them “Sports Babble” and mainly listen only when they have an ex-jock who actually has played the game run a show like Doug Buffone and Ed O’bradovich.

Most of these punks would have their butts kicked in high school by the jocks.


33 posted on 12/06/2011 4:57:51 PM PST by arrogantsob (Obama must Go.)
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To: YHAOS

They hardly ran the option last week, if at all. And his passing was improved. A lot of Tebow-haters could end up disappointed.


34 posted on 12/06/2011 4:59:19 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: arrogantsob
Tebow is about as controversial as apple pie. Only the retarded sports-talk hosts, who are basically one percent preferable to dead airtime, keep making up an imaginary issue. All true sports fans look first at the record and the standings. Bottom line.

As far as being mocked, look at the quality and character of the mockers. I rest my case.

35 posted on 12/06/2011 5:02:42 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: F15Eagle

Yep. I looked it up and the FCA is an international organization now - started in 1954. One of my fondest memories is as high schrooler, the great Forest Gregg who played tackle for the Cleveland Browns at the time was the speaker at our “football banquet”. He was a huge man but left an indelible impression with me and he was a member of FCA. He played at Southern Methodist University around the same time as the great “Dandy” Don Meredith. Both All-Americans. I don’t believe Dandy was a member of FCA.


36 posted on 12/06/2011 5:03:03 PM PST by Jukeman (Texas Guy born and bred and proud of it.)
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To: Stentor
I will clarify by saying that nobody ever wanted to win more than Taylor, and that includes Tim Tebow. LT had that, AND he was always the most talented player. When I try to describe him to my nephews, I know just how my father felt with James Brown. If all you've ever seen of Taylor is in slow motion, you can't possibly understand how this one guy could completely dominate a game from a defensive position.

I'm sure you know this, but the quarterback he sacked most was Jaws, but it might just as easily been Theisman if he hadn't ended the man's career one Monday night.

37 posted on 12/06/2011 5:03:11 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Loathsome to the man.


38 posted on 12/06/2011 5:05:22 PM PST by arrogantsob (Obama must Go.)
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To: SaxxonWoods

He is growing every sunday. His passing is coming together. He hardly ran Sunday but he still won.. I hate liberals and the media for again trying to ruin a good christian young man. Makes me sick. Go Tebow. Haven’t been this excited since 96 to 98...Go Broncos.


39 posted on 12/06/2011 5:05:57 PM PST by crazydad
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To: colorado tanker
"A lot of Tebow-haters could end up disappointed."

And, wouldn't we just love that? LOL!

40 posted on 12/06/2011 5:06:45 PM PST by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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To: presidio9

Actually the article isn’t about the talent of any athlete, but rather the religious qualities of Tim Tebow, and why people dislike him. Your fave, LT was a great player alright, but is a registered sex offender for raping a 16 year old girl...exactly what this thread is all about.


41 posted on 12/06/2011 5:07:33 PM PST by sanjuanbob (Festina Lente)
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To: Borges
“Tebow is the most hated man in sports”

Kidding me? Obviously these pimplefaced juveniles never heard of LePrick James.

Tebow shines in the fourth quarter. James disappears behind his mother in the fourth quarter. Just ask the losers at the Heat.

42 posted on 12/06/2011 5:10:53 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: arrogantsob
Tebow is the most hated man in sports because of his outfront Christianity.

B.S.

Right now its Ndamukong Suh of the Detroit Lions and not undeservedly so.

43 posted on 12/06/2011 5:11:25 PM PST by CharacterCounts (November 4, 2008 - the day America drank the Kool-Aid)
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To: rcrngroup

You are right.It is because Tim Tebow is pro-life that Costco does not sell his recent biography.Tim’s courage has shown the media for what they are.I thank my Lord and Savior,Jesus Christ for Tim Tebow and his wonderful family.Go Broncos. We need more young men like Tim Tebow.


44 posted on 12/06/2011 5:14:18 PM PST by ardara
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To: arrogantsob
Jennings is not that rare among the black athletes who make quick prayer-like gestures after a good play.

The best offensive player I ever saw was a black man by the name of Barry Sanders. After each and every one of his 109 career touchdowns he calmy handed the ball to the nearest ref and hustled back to his own sideline.

45 posted on 12/06/2011 5:14:29 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: arrogantsob

You’re right.... I realize that. I was using Jennings as one example, but it appears most black athletes do the same thing. Empty, meaningless gestures as far as I am concerned. They seem to do it both before or after their gloating & prancing & chest butts & shucking & jiving in multiple variations of fist bumps or shoulder bumps. The media doesn’t have a problem with the black athletes who cavort & then drop to their knees....even the media knows it is a meaningless gesture, probably more intended to bring self-adulation to the athlete rather than praist to God.


46 posted on 12/06/2011 5:17:29 PM PST by rcrngroup
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To: sanjuanbob
Actually the article isn’t about the talent of any athlete, but rather the religious qualities of Tim Tebow, and why people dislike him. Your fave, LT was a great player alright, but is a registered sex offender for raping a 16 year old girl...exactly what this thread is all about.

Thanks for sharing. I think that was my point.

47 posted on 12/06/2011 5:19:03 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: cicero2k
The Packers, well how can such a small market continue to dominate the biggest sport in America?

The NFL has a salary cap and they share TV revenues equally. That's how. Major League Baseball will never do either because it would mean the end of the dominance of the NY Yankees. And baseball will die on the vine before they will let that happen.

48 posted on 12/06/2011 5:23:03 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: cicero2k
The Packers, well how can such a small market continue to dominate the biggest sport in America?

The NFL has a salary cap and they share TV revenues equally. That's how. Major League Baseball will never do either because it would mean the end of the dominance of the NY Yankees. And baseball will die on the vine before they will let that happen.

49 posted on 12/06/2011 5:24:00 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: arrogantsob
Tebow is the most hated man in sports because of his outfront Christianity.

Maybe the most hated man in sports among people who don't follow sports.

Forbes has a thing on the most hated NFL players and he doesn't make the list.

50 posted on 12/06/2011 5:26:58 PM PST by x
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