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The weird ‘controversy’ of Tim Tebow
NY Post/National Review ^ | December 5, 2011 | Rich Lowery

Posted on 12/06/2011 3:45:11 PM PST by presidio9

In Denver Broncos quarterback Tim Tebow, the football gods have offered up a star that every father in America should be grateful for (provided they don’t root for a rival team in the AFC West).

Tebow is respectful, wholesome and a man of God. He has no obvious failings besides an inaccurate throwing arm.

If Disney were to concoct the plot of a movie about an altogether admirable young man who joins the NFL and is scorned by all the experts for his unorthodox style, yet wins week after week, Tebow would play the lead. In fact, at this point Disney could make it a documentary.

Nonetheless, Tim Tebow is considered “controversial.” It’s now cutting-edge to be a straight arrow. It’s countercultural to be an outspoken Christian. A player who embodies everything meant by the cliché “role model” is for his critics a figure of fun, or even hatred.

Tebow is widely mocked -SNIP-

By any reasonable standard, though, Tebow is a blessing. He won’t be getting arrested for groping a woman at a Halloween party (Julian Edelman), for accidently shooting himself with the Glock he smuggled into the dance club (Plaxico Burress) or for running a dog-fighting ring (Michael Vick).

He won’t be taking performance-enhancing drugs. He may or may not continue his success on the field, but he will do everything he can to respect his teammates and his God.

Here is a prominent player who will almost certainly never require fathers to make awkward explanations to their kids about some spectacular scandal. Rejoice, America, rejoice.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: lt; timtebow
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To: presidio9
Too bad you missed seeing Jim Brown in action. He defined that class. It was Paul Brown, in the 1950s at Cleveland, who told his running backs and receivers "When you get to the end zone try to act like you've been there before." He also required every team member to wear a coat and tie upon arrival at the stadium, whether home or away.
51 posted on 12/06/2011 5:33:33 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: presidio9

The most indelible image I have of him was when he broke Theismann’s leg. The way he waved for Washington medical staff to help Theismann showed me he was concerned for his competition. Can’t ask for more than that on the field of top-knotch sport.


52 posted on 12/06/2011 5:36:59 PM PST by TwoSwords
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To: hinckley buzzard
Major League Baseball will never do either because it would mean the end of the dominance of the NY Yankees. And baseball will die on the vine before they will let that happen.

Revenue sharing would not work over the length of the MLB season. The way to fix baseball is to get rid of the small market teams who are not even pretending to be competitve, and force megatropolises like NY to accept additional franchises. Off the top of my head, the A's could easily be moved to Staten Island, and the Pirates to Brooklyn. Right now, the Yankees could easily support a $250mm payroll if they didn't have a token concern for appearances.

53 posted on 12/06/2011 5:37:39 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: CAluvdubya

It’s funny you mention Staubach, my all time favorite. Tebow reminds me of him.


54 posted on 12/06/2011 5:41:24 PM PST by Himyar
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To: TwoSwords
The most indelible image I have of him was when he broke Theismann’s leg. The way he waved for Washington medical staff to help Theismann showed me he was concerned for his competition. Can’t ask for more than that on the field of top-knotch sport.

As someone else was sure to point out on this thread, LT is an incredibly flawed human being, but there is also some good in him, unlike say Ray Lewis, the player most currently compared to him. Lewis pretty much dares you to prove that he had anything to do with the murder he was involved in.

If LT ever had a "sack dance" I am unaware of it.

55 posted on 12/06/2011 5:43:29 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: presidio9

He had no sack dance that I can remember. No Gastineau, was he.


56 posted on 12/06/2011 5:48:50 PM PST by TwoSwords
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To: presidio9

Between Tebow and the Penn State/Syracuse situations - all you need to know about ESPN’s bias is right there to be seen. They traffic in the ridicule of Tebow because he is a Christian. But they tiptoe around the issue of homosexuality in the Penn State and Syracuse situations, not wanting to offend gays.


57 posted on 12/06/2011 6:00:28 PM PST by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: presidio9
.......”because he was an openly Christian player”....

Has any of these people ever actually watched a football game? Almost every player acknowledges God after every touchdown, every catch, every sack. I have seen on many occasions 5 or 6 players kneel together and pray after a TD. Many teams pray as a group before taking the field. There is more open praising of God on the football field each Sunday than there is in most churches. This was all before Tim Tebow ever played in the NFL. So what is the big deal about Tebow’s acknowledging God? He didn't invent it or bring it to football, it was already there, BIG TIME!

58 posted on 12/06/2011 6:09:55 PM PST by faucetman
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To: arrogantsob

You don’t have to have played the game to understand it. A lot of GMs and scouts who evaluate talent never played the game either.


59 posted on 12/06/2011 6:26:28 PM PST by Borges
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To: hinckley buzzard

It’s not so much that as the baseball players union not allowing it. They would literally start their own league if the owners tried to put it through.


60 posted on 12/06/2011 6:28:47 PM PST by Borges
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To: Borges

Dear Tim:
You’re welcome. Now please stop praying. I am trying to watch the Packers.
Love,
God


61 posted on 12/06/2011 6:42:51 PM PST by american_ranger
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To: Wally_Kalbacken

ESPN has absolutely been reaming the Penn State cover up.


62 posted on 12/06/2011 6:45:23 PM PST by Borges
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To: alarm rider
You cannot coach heart, you cannot coach character.

Indeed. And you cannot coach speed, either.

Not the same type of thing, just something my high school head coach used to say over and over and your comment reminded me of it.


Where there's a shell, there's a way.

25 years ago, we had Ronald Reagan, Johnny Cash, and Bob Hope.
Today we have Obama, no cash, and no hope!

If you can't appreciate the pure beauty of the violin after hearing this, something's wrong with your ears.

Or you can get raw with these strings.

How about this gamechanger from America's Got Talent (which they SHOULD have won).

Either way, the violin is sweet yet lethal.

Do it!

63 posted on 12/06/2011 6:45:43 PM PST by rdb3 (><>The mouth is the exhaust pipe of the heart. <><)
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To: presidio9
I know just how my father felt with James Brown.

I never saw Jim Brown live. Saw him on TV. He was like Taylor in that he played in his own dimension.

64 posted on 12/06/2011 7:28:02 PM PST by Stentor ("All cults of personality start out as high drama and end up as low comedy.")
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To: presidio9

Have to admit his public displays make me uneasy. It’s gotten to the point where I think he’s just grandstanding.

Jesus: “Whenever you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, because they love to pray while standing in synagogues and on street corners so that people can see them. Truly I say to you, they have their reward. But whenever you pray, go into your room, close the door, and pray to your Father in secret. And your Father, who sees in secret, will reward you” (Matthew 6:5-6).


65 posted on 12/06/2011 7:32:12 PM PST by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

Who says he’s “praying”? ...”Let your light shine before men....that they may see your good works, and glorify the Lord in heaven.”

It’s the Great Separating hour, and this Age is about to close.


66 posted on 12/06/2011 7:39:13 PM PST by Varsity Flight (Phony-Care is the Government Work-Camp)
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To: Varsity Flight

“Who says he’s “praying”?”


I don’t think he’s looking for ants on the ground.


67 posted on 12/06/2011 7:44:28 PM PST by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

The verse you speak of is about REWARD of prayer.

Tim is in WORSHIP, and glorifying the Lord. If fact, I would encourage him to WORSHIP, in what ever manner he chooses, even in the huddle with every player on one knee.

“How Great Thou Art”


68 posted on 12/06/2011 7:58:01 PM PST by Varsity Flight (Phony-Care is the Government Work-Camp)
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To: Borges

You nailed it. With dozens of commentators and endless hours of analysis Tim’s a great fill. I love Tim, and I freakin love football.

They trash and then worship Tony,Su,Favre,Cutler,Lewis blah, blah, blah and I love it.


69 posted on 12/07/2011 12:52:23 AM PST by liberty or death
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To: rdb3
Indeed. And cannot coach speed, either.

As a racewalk and running coach I have a small quibble. You cannot coach speed that folks don't have but you can help them find the speed they do have. Very few people have a 2:15 marathon in them, but a surprisingly large number of have a 4:00 marathon and settle for a lesser performance.

Translating that to football I suggest the correct strength training, stretching, agility drills and other techniques can trim a hundredth or two of a second from a run, helping create a missed tackle.

70 posted on 12/07/2011 8:16:57 AM PST by jimfree (In Nov 2012 Herman Cain will have more relevant and quality executive experience than Barack Obama)
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To: CharacterCounts
No, it isn't B.S. but an incontrovertible fact. Suh’s bad image is the direct result of HIS ACTIONS. Tebow has done NOTHING that should produce the hatred. Suh’s problem is the result of consistent and repeated dirty plays and unnecessary personal fouls. Tebow has achieved a tsunami of hatred because of his virtues not his vices. There has never been anything like this and I have CLOSELY followed the NFL for forty years.
71 posted on 12/07/2011 10:49:32 AM PST by arrogantsob (Obama must Go.)
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To: arrogantsob
Your basic premise that Tebow is hated is flawed.

If fact, he has been praised by many many people inside and outside the league.

There is zero evidence that there is widespread hatred for this man.

72 posted on 12/07/2011 11:12:49 AM PST by CharacterCounts (November 4, 2008 - the day America drank the Kool-Aid)
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To: arrogantsob
Your basic premise that Tebow is hated is flawed.

If fact, he has been praised by many many people inside and outside the league.

There is zero evidence that there is widespread hatred for this man.

73 posted on 12/07/2011 11:13:05 AM PST by CharacterCounts (November 4, 2008 - the day America drank the Kool-Aid)
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To: Borges; hinckley buzzard

Tebow is hated on a much wider level that any other athlete. He gets the full Two Minutes Hate treatment from the online Sorosphere (normally reserved for conservatives who are a threat to the Soros agenda like Palin and the Kochs) and that’s a whole separate dimension of hate than any other athlete in America has to endure, even LeBron and Michael Vick.


74 posted on 12/07/2011 11:25:13 AM PST by denydenydeny (The more a system is all about equality in theory the more it's an aristocracy in practice.)
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To: Borges; hinckley buzzard

Tebow is hated on a much wider level that any other athlete. He gets the full Two Minutes Hate treatment from the online Sorosphere (normally reserved for conservatives who are a threat to the Soros agenda like Palin and the Kochs) and that’s a whole separate dimension of hate than any other athlete in America has to endure, even LeBron and Michael Vick.


75 posted on 12/07/2011 11:29:53 AM PST by denydenydeny (The more a system is all about equality in theory the more it's an aristocracy in practice.)
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To: denydenydeny

I never even heard of the Sorosphere. I was thinking of the Sports Media, none of whom exhibit what I would call Hate towards him.


76 posted on 12/07/2011 12:28:46 PM PST by Borges
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To: CharacterCounts

I only know what I hear about him on the talk radio hear in Chicago. I never hear anything positive only mocking and obvious attempt to denigrate him as being an “idiot”, “a know-nothing”, “empty-headed”, “Jesus sucks the brain out of a believer’s head”. I have never heard such personal attacks on others sports figures.


77 posted on 12/07/2011 8:47:11 PM PST by arrogantsob (Obama must Go.)
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To: Borges
This is what I'm talking about. The better Tebow does, the more he drives liberals to fits of insanity.
78 posted on 12/14/2011 8:08:19 AM PST by denydenydeny (The more a system is all about equality in theory the more it's an aristocracy in practice.)
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