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Ron Paul Tells Newsmax: I Support Israel
Newsmax ^ | 12/07/2011 | Doug Wead

Posted on 12/07/2011 10:52:06 AM PST by keyd

Ron Paul Tells Newsmax: I Support Israel

In an exclusive Newsmax interview, Congressman and Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul confirmed his support for Israel, but cautioned that while the United States should be a “friend” of the Jewish state, America should not be the “master” of Israel.

Paul also says the United States should not dictate Israel’s borders or try to “buy her allegiance” with massive amounts of foreign aid. He argued that foreign aid has actually hurt – not helped – the Jewish state.

The interview was conducted by Newsmax contributor Doug Wead, a presidential historian and New York Times best-selling author.

Paul has recently come under fire from some Jewish groups in America. The Republican Jewish Coalition banned Paul from a debate on Jewish issues in Washington this week because of his “misguided and extreme views,” according to the group’s executive director, Matt Brooks.

Newsmax chatted with Paul to get his side of the issue as the Texas Republican is surging in some presidential polls.

A new Washington Post-ABC News survey in Iowa shows him threatening Mitt Romney as the second-leading candidate behind Newt Gingrich. Paul is now tied with Romney in the early caucus state with 18 percent of the vote, behind Gingrich’s 33 percent.

Rep. Paul’s interview with Newsmax follows:

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: chutzpah; galvestonsnoopy; liar; panderer; ronpaul
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1 posted on 12/07/2011 10:52:09 AM PST by keyd
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To: keyd

BULLSH$T! Paul is a FLIP-FLOPPING Coward!


2 posted on 12/07/2011 10:54:35 AM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: keyd
Him and the Messiah support Israel? We need a laugh this yuletide season

Ron Paul 1488
The Final Solution for America

The two eights of the number 1488 stand for the eigth letter of the alphabet: H. And the two of them together form H H or Heil Hitler.

The fourteen part of the number 1488 stands for those fourteen words that every white supremacist knows: "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for White children. (hat tip Bill Levinson)

3 posted on 12/07/2011 10:55:20 AM PST by Stepan12
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To: Stepan12
Ron Paul 1488 The Final Solution for America The two eights of the number 1488 stand for the eigth letter of the alphabet: H. And the two of them together form H H or Heil Hitler.

LOL!

4 posted on 12/07/2011 10:59:40 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit))
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To: Stepan12

Did Ron Paul accept money from Stormfront?

http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/11/the_ron_paul_campaign_and_its.html


5 posted on 12/07/2011 11:01:08 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: keyd

Hitler used to tell the jews that the train was taking them someplace “safe.”


6 posted on 12/07/2011 11:04:49 AM PST by Grunthor (Pro-illegal alien "conservatives" piss me off.)
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To: keyd
No, Ron Paul does not support Israel (excuse my sarcasm). Everyone knows you only "support" something if you are willing to tax other people and use their money on your personal agenda. So Dr. Paul doesn't support Israel because he doesn't believe in forcing Americans to pay taxes that are then sent to the Israeli government.

"Conservatives" against Ron Paul are just like Liberals on the subject of personal charity. You can give all the time and money of your own to the poor that you want, but you aren't a "generous" person in Liberal eyes unless you favor taxing other people and giving their money to poor people.

7 posted on 12/07/2011 11:07:33 AM PST by Liberty1970 (Skepticism and Close-mindedness are two very different things.)
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To: US Navy Vet

Calm down. He has been very consistent in his views. Get your facts straight. Please explain why more active duty military support Paul more than all the others running for President combined. Think about it!

BTW: This vet agrees with Dr. Paul. We don’t need to be fighting wars for Israel. They can defend themselves.


8 posted on 12/07/2011 11:09:07 AM PST by luckybogey
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To: keyd
Ron Paul Tells Newsmax: I Support Israel

He also says he is against earmarks, but can you think of anybody who garners more earmarks than him? I can't.
9 posted on 12/07/2011 11:12:15 AM PST by rideharddiefast
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To: keyd

Guy’s gone senile now.


10 posted on 12/07/2011 11:14:19 AM PST by McGruff (Hold the House, retake the Senate.)
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To: keyd
From article:
"Ron Paul: I have objected to all foreign aid. I define foreign aid as taking money from poor people in rich countries and giving it to rich people in poor countries. We just can’t keep doing this. We don’t have the money anymore.

Stop and consider America’s policy: We give $3 billion a year to Israel in loans; and we give $12 billion or more in assistance to Israel’s self-declared enemies. Some of these are countries that say they will drive Israel into the sea.

Newsmax: What then, if anything, should we do for Israel?

Ron Paul: We should share intelligence for mutually agreed-upon goals. We should honor our pledge to refuse any arms sales that would undermine Israel’s qualitative military edge in the region.

But we should stop interfering with them. We should not announce bargaining positions even before she begins her negotiations. We should not dictate what she can and cannot do. We should stop trying to buy her allegiance. And Israel should stop sacrificing their sovereignty as an independent state to us or anybody else, no matter how well-intentioned.
11 posted on 12/07/2011 11:17:00 AM PST by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: luckybogey

“Please explain why more active duty military support Paul more than all the others running for President combined”, PROVE IT! Do you “know” this or do you “think” this?!


12 posted on 12/07/2011 11:19:24 AM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: keyd
Have a son-in-law ... huge supporter of Ron Paul. Told him about a week ago, all Ron Paul supporters were going to be fed to the lions. This week told the son-in-law the Ron Paul supporters were being moved up on the food chain. The alligators would be who they (Ron Paul supporters) would be fed to. He grinned and said, it is nice to be moved forward, after having tamed some of the lions.
13 posted on 12/07/2011 11:19:28 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: algernonpj
Stop and consider America’s policy: We give $3 billion a year to Israel in loans; and we give $12 billion or more in assistance to Israel’s self-declared enemies. Some of these are countries that say they will drive Israel into the sea.

So what?

These people love getting American tax dollars.

Just go along with it!

14 posted on 12/07/2011 11:22:44 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit))
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To: dragnet2

Liked that ... will have to remember.


15 posted on 12/07/2011 11:28:45 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: rideharddiefast

“He also says he is against earmarks, but can you think of anybody who garners more earmarks than him? I can’t.”

Really? You’ve done a bunch of research on Ron Paul and that’s what you came up with. You think he’s some sort of big spender?

He’s ranked a “Hero” by the Citizens Against Government Waste. Here’s the 2010 Rankings:

http://www.ccagwratings.org/?mode=ratings


16 posted on 12/07/2011 11:32:27 AM PST by cowtowney
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To: US Navy Vet

“Overall, 71 percent of military donations for the 2012 presidential race have gone to Ron Paul, while Minnesota Representative Michele Bachmann received five percent, former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney eight percent, and Cain 13 percent. All other candidates combined have received three percent of the military donations.”

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/9044-ron-paul-campaign-receive-most-military-donations


17 posted on 12/07/2011 11:37:47 AM PST by luckybogey
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To: keyd

Israel is on their own. If they start a war, they can finish it. We are burnt out on wars and need to take care of our own for a change.


18 posted on 12/07/2011 11:37:47 AM PST by Soothesayer9
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To: US Navy Vet

Former President Ronald Reagan praised Paul for putting the troops first: “”Ron Paul is one of the outstanding leaders fighting for a stronger national defense. As a former Air Force officer, he knows well the needs of our armed forces, and he always puts them first. We need to keep him fighting for our country.”

Here’s the breakdown (as of Aug 25, 2011):

Cain - $6223

Romney - $5000

Bachmann - $2550

Newt - $1025

Pawlenty - $250

Santorum - $250

Johnson - $0

Total GOP (excluding Ron Paul) - $15,298.00

Rep Ron Paul - $36,739.79

President Obama - $28,833.99


19 posted on 12/07/2011 11:44:50 AM PST by luckybogey
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To: luckybogey

A suspect “source” at best.


20 posted on 12/07/2011 11:46:09 AM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: Grunthor

So not giving taxpayer money to Israel is equal to genocide?


21 posted on 12/07/2011 11:50:20 AM PST by douginthearmy (Still undecided.)
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To: US Navy Vet; luckybogey
A suspect “source” at best.

Here's another.

http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2011/jul/23/ron-paul/ron-paul-says-members-military-have-given-him-far-/

22 posted on 12/07/2011 11:58:51 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit))
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To: keyd

Paul is a liar.

He advocates legalizing drugs (including heroin).


23 posted on 12/07/2011 11:59:36 AM PST by BereanBrain
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To: US Navy Vet

Do you want the data for 2008 also? The donations via the FEC is very easy to verify.

Believe what you want to believe then, just don’t call a man who served his country a coward. Have a great day!


24 posted on 12/07/2011 12:00:49 PM PST by luckybogey
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To: US Navy Vet

http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2011/jul/23/ron-paul/ron-paul-says-members-military-have-given-him-far-/


25 posted on 12/07/2011 12:01:06 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit))
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To: US Navy Vet

“A suspect “source” at best.”

Here’s a third source for ya.

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Ron Paul raises most campaign cash from military workers

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2011/07/ron-paul-military-campaign-donations-/1


26 posted on 12/07/2011 12:06:39 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit))
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To: cowtowney
He’s ranked a “Hero” by the Citizens Against Government Waste. Here’s the 2010 Rankings:

He is also a hero with all terrorists and our other enemies because no matter what they do he will blame America for it. Could you imagine if instead of today being 12/07/11 it was 12/07/41 Cut and Run would be blaming America for the Pearl Harbor attack. He would say it was our fault because we failed to give the Japanese enough supplies.
He is also a hero with storm front, and the OWS crowd. I guess he is just an all around hero.
27 posted on 12/07/2011 12:07:38 PM PST by rideharddiefast
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To: US Navy Vet
My recollection is that Mr. Paul had a knife in Israel's back? Someone please clarify...
28 posted on 12/07/2011 12:11:03 PM PST by ptsal
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To: keyd

What a load of bs - this guy is way out of touch with world affairs to even be considered to be qualified to have the button to push.


29 posted on 12/07/2011 12:13:42 PM PST by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: Liberty1970
Ron Paul is a moron:

And if you don't think letting Iran get the bomb isn't dangerous for AMERICA, then YOU'RE A MORON.

Ron Paul stood with nut-job Cindy McKinney and supported Chuck Baldwin over John McCain in the 2008 election.

http://www.ronpaul.com/2008-09-23/ron-paul-endorses-chuck-baldwin-for-president/

And most Ron Paul supporters did not support nor vote for McCain in 2008, and they will vote for Øbowmao again, or they will sit it out or vote Third Party in 2012 (effectively helping Ø get reelected).

A Vote For Ron Paul Is A Vote For Øbowmao.

30 posted on 12/07/2011 12:16:16 PM PST by Yehuda (Expel communists and jihadis... from the planet.)
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To: dragnet2
Your third source, Politifact, is suspect:

From Wikipedia

History

PolitiFact.com was started in August 2007 by Times Washington Bureau Chief Bill Adair, in conjunction with the Congressional Quarterly. Adair remains PolitiFact.com's editor.[2] In January 2010, PolitiFact.com expanded to its second newspaper, the Cox-owned Austin American-Statesman in Austin, Texas; the feature, called Politifact Texas, covers issues that are relevant to Texas and the Austin area. In March 2010, the Times and its partner newspaper, The Miami Herald, launched Politifact Florida, which focuses on Florida issues. The Times and The Herald share resources on some stories that relate to Florida. Since then, PolitiFact.com expanded to other papers, such as The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, The Providence Journal, Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, The Plain Dealer, Richmond Times-Dispatch, and The Oregonian. [edit]"Lie of the year"

Since 2009, PolitiFact.com has every year declared one political statement from that year to be the "lie of the year". In December 2009, they declared the lie of the year to be Sarah Palin's claim that the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act of 2009 would lead to government "death panels" that dictated which types of patients would receive treatment.

[3] Columnist James Taranto of the Wall Street Journal, writing in 2011, criticized this choice, saying that PolitiFact.com relied on an "out-of-context interpretation" of Palin's words, and that Palin's basic argument, that the act would lead to the government "drastically curtailing medical benefits", was in fact correct.[4]

In December 2010, PolitiFact.com dubbed the lie of the year to be the claim among some opponents of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act that it represented a "government takeover of healthcare". PolitiFact.com argued that this was not the case, since all providing of health care and insurance would remain in the hands of private companies.[5]

31 posted on 12/07/2011 12:17:38 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: rideharddiefast

i guess you did not address what I wrote and just changed the topic.

Regarding his foreign policy, I wish the US would stop invading other countries without a declaration of war.

I wish we would stop subsidizing governments that hate us.

I wish we would get our butts out of Iraq and Afghanistan where the moment we leave, they will turn on us. There are other ways to fight the war against terror over seas.

I wish the Fed would stop subsidizing foreign banks, including Libyan banks. Which candidate would stop that?

Which candidate mentions the corruption at the Federal Reserve which will bankrupt our nation. How many troops can we afford to hire and support when we are bankrupt?


32 posted on 12/07/2011 12:18:34 PM PST by cowtowney
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To: ptsal
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Ron_Paul#Israel ... one source. Consistency per source. Not my candidate. My two were torpedoed.
33 posted on 12/07/2011 12:21:47 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: douginthearmy

No. But Ron Paul saying that he is a supporter of Israel is equal to a lie.


34 posted on 12/07/2011 12:27:15 PM PST by Grunthor (Pro-illegal alien "conservatives" piss me off.)
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To: trisham

There are more source out there that show this guy received more contributions from the military than any other GOP candidate.

This is not rocket science, if you have a source that shows something else, I’d like to see it.


35 posted on 12/07/2011 12:27:54 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit))
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To: dragnet2

That article is clearly talking about civilian employees, not active duty servicemembers.


36 posted on 12/07/2011 12:29:45 PM PST by Grunthor (Pro-illegal alien "conservatives" piss me off.)
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To: cowtowney

I believe that Ron Paul will be the next fall back if Gingrich implodes prior to Iowa.

I am not now nor have I ever been a Paul supporter, I believe that his ideas on defense will get a hell of a lot of innocent Americans killed.

Would I vote for him over Romney?

Hell, I’d vote for a ham sandwich over Romney so....yeah.


37 posted on 12/07/2011 12:33:19 PM PST by Grunthor (Pro-illegal alien "conservatives" piss me off.)
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To: Grunthor

Some analysts questioned assertions that Paul had in fact received the majority of military donations, prompting Politifact.com to conduct its own research. The website reported:

We turned to the presidential candidates’ latest campaign finance filings compiled by the Federal Election Commission, which breaks out donations by donors’ employers…From April through June, Paul fielded more than $25,000 from individuals who listed their employer as a branch of the military.

Combined, six other Republican presidential candidates listed donations from members of the military totaling about $9,000. Our most-to-least breakdown: Herman Cain, $2,850; Mitt Romney, $2,750; Michele Bachmann, $2,250; Newt Gingrich, $500; and Tim Pawlenty and Rick Santorum, $250 each.

On the Democratic side, Obama’s campaign received more than $16,000 in donations from members of the military.

Politifact.com concluded that it is in fact true that military contributions to Paul are more than double that of the contributions to all other Republican presidential candidates, and that those donations also exceed those received by President Obama.

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If you have a source that shows something else, I’d like to see it.


38 posted on 12/07/2011 12:33:25 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit))
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To: dragnet2

“April through June, Paul fielded more than $25,000 from individuals who listed their employer as a branch of the military.”

My ex-wife works at Madigan Army Medical Center as a civilian. Who do you thinks she lists as her employer, the city of Tacoma?


39 posted on 12/07/2011 12:35:36 PM PST by Grunthor (Pro-illegal alien "conservatives" piss me off.)
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To: Grunthor

“I believe that his ideas on defense will get a hell of a lot of innocent Americans killed.

What do you believe are his ideas on defense?

BTW, our present ideas on defense are doing a pretty good job of getting Americans killed.


40 posted on 12/07/2011 12:40:52 PM PST by cowtowney
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To: Grunthor

Has certainly been one strange primary season. Have spoken with several supporters of Ron Paul. The one thing which have found in the conversations is consistency in their beliefs and in Paul, and their belief of Paul’s consistency. Thus far, having trouble not finding consistency in Paul.


41 posted on 12/07/2011 12:41:28 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Soothesayer9

“If they start a war”

Interesting place for you to start an assumption.


42 posted on 12/07/2011 12:41:28 PM PST by Grunthor (Pro-illegal alien "conservatives" piss me off.)
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To: Grunthor

Is it all lies?

If so, please provide a link which shows another GOP candidate receiving more from the U.S. Military.

Thanks!
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Republican candidate Ron Paul leads in donations from military

NATIONAL (NBC) - A long-shot Republican candidate for president, and a fierce critic of the Iraq war, is leading in donations from military personnel.

The Houston Chronicle reports Ron Paul has gotten more contributions from current and retired military personnel this year than any presidential candidate.

http://www.wistv.com/Global/story.asp?S=7238667


43 posted on 12/07/2011 12:44:58 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit))
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To: Liberty1970

WRong. I don’t believe in giving Israel or the Arabs states a penny.


44 posted on 12/07/2011 12:48:58 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: Grunthor

That makes much more sense.


45 posted on 12/07/2011 12:49:21 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: algernonpj
This has been Dr. Paul's stance all along. Not just on Israel, but for all of our Allies. Regardless of sh*t people have said he "means", this is what his voting record upholds.

And I agree. I didn't agree when Clinton was trying to broker a "peace deal" by strong arming Isreal. I didn't like it when Bush did the same.

Leave 'em alone and sell 'em all the "beans and bullets" they need to protect themselves. We need to stop being Globo-cop before it destroys us altogether.

46 posted on 12/07/2011 12:51:32 PM PST by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: cowtowney

Grunthor - “I believe that his ideas on defense will get a hell of a lot of innocent Americans killed.

cowtowney - “our present ideas on defense are doing a pretty good job of getting Americans killed.”

Now I wonder if the casual reader can see the intellectual dishonesty in what you did there.

“What do you believe are his ideas on defense?”

He wants to withdraw the United States from the world militarily. This is a point that while I WANT to agree with him on it...I cannot. Look at the history of the U.S. foreign policy prior to WW2. After WW1 we tried to do just that, withdraw. Had we been more forceful in the world in the 20’s and 30’s the second world war may not have been necessary.

Furthermore; he would not launch a pre-emptive attack upon an enemy that intel showed was clearly plotting an attack on the U.S. homeland. I believe that he would fight back afterwards, but even that would be more like a police action than a war. He’s very weak on defense, and frankly a lot of his supporters know it but they, being basically liberal except on financial issues don’t care.

There really IS evil in the world my FRiend, wether or not libertarians want to admit it.


47 posted on 12/07/2011 12:52:53 PM PST by Grunthor (Pro-illegal alien "conservatives" piss me off.)
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To: BereanBrain
He also supports legalizing full auto machine guns. Can't have that either. Too much freedom is scary.

(Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)

48 posted on 12/07/2011 12:54:03 PM PST by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: Grunthor

Is it all lies?

If so, please provide a link which shows another GOP candidate receiving more from the U.S. Military.


49 posted on 12/07/2011 12:55:57 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit))
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To: dragnet2

“Is it all lies?”

No, it’s misinformation. Propaganda, if you will.

“If so, please provide a link which shows another GOP candidate receiving more from the U.S. Military.”

Civilians working for the military are NOT THE U.S. MILITARY.

“Thanks!”

Your very welcome.


50 posted on 12/07/2011 12:56:37 PM PST by Grunthor (Pro-illegal alien "conservatives" piss me off.)
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