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FL GOP Primary: Gingrich 22 Points Atop Romney, All other Candidates Irrelevant: (Newt 45, Romney 23
surveyusa ^ | 12/8/11 | staff

Posted on 12/08/2011 11:55:05 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009

8 weeks to the Florida GOP Primary, Newt Gingrich resoundingly defeats Mitt Romney, with no other candidates worth discussing, according to a SurveyUSA poll of 500 likely Republican primary voters conducted for WFLA-TV in Tampa.

Gingrich gets 45%, Romney 23%, no one else is above 6%.

* Among those who describe themselves as moderate, Romney leads 3:2. * Among those who tell SurveyUSA they are "very conservative," Gingrich leads 3:1. * Among Evangelicals, Gingrich leads 5:2. * Among members of the Tea Party, Gingrich leads 5:2. * Among pro-life voters, Gingrich leads 5:2. * Gingrich leads by 20 or more points in every region of the state except Southeast Florida, where Romney runs 3 points ahead of Gingrich. * Gingrich's Favorability among likely Florida primary voters is now an extraordinary Plus 54. * Romney's Favorability among likely Florida primary voters is now Plus 30. * By contrast, and as a point of differentiation, Ron Paul's favorability is Minus 11, Rick Perry's favorability is Minus 9.

Anticipating that by the time the Florida primary is held, after Iowa, after New Hampshire, and after South Carolina, that some 2nd-tier candidates may have dropped out of the race, SurveyUSA asked likely primary voters who they would vote for if the only two remaining candidates, at the time of the Florida primary, were Gingrich and Romney.

In a two-man face-off, Gingrich defeats Romney 57% to 30%.

(Excerpt) Read more at surveyusa.com ...


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Woot!

Go Gingrich!

1 posted on 12/08/2011 11:55:10 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Newt has really maximized his strengths with all of these Televised Debates....Perry has destroyed his personal chances.+


2 posted on 12/08/2011 12:05:02 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Interesting that evangelicals are big supporters. He’s flawed. But who else do we have?


3 posted on 12/08/2011 12:06:50 PM PST by Mustang Driver
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Two to one! Very good. :) I guess after 3 years of Obama, people are on the lookout for someone who knows his way around without a map.
Not a fortunate son pol who had a “Hello My Name Is ___ Vote for Romney” sticker on his diaper and the royal birthmark presidential seal on his rump.
He is algore with half the fat. The first entitlement Newt will eliminate in 2012.


4 posted on 12/08/2011 12:14:17 PM PST by Lady Lucky ( Merry Christmas to all)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

In a two-man face-off, Gingrich defeats Romney 57% to 30%.

Wow.


5 posted on 12/08/2011 12:16:42 PM PST by jessduntno ("I love the man. I think he's a neat man." - Sen. Tom Coburn (R) about B. Hussein Obama)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
Gingrich gets 45%, Romney 23%, no one else is above 6%. . . . In a two-man face-off, Gingrich defeats Romney 57% to 30%.

Interesting. If everyone else drops out, Gingrich adds 12% and Romney picks up 7%. Those not already supporting one of the two are twice as likely to follow Newt as Mitt. In other words, those who don't already tolerate Romney because he's "inevitable" are not terribly interested in supporting him eventually.

6 posted on 12/08/2011 12:17:55 PM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

“Gingrich defeats Romney 57% to 30%.”

Did you hear that? I did.... there it goes again... and another. There goes another.... 5 all at once.

Wow, anti-Newt FReeper’s heads are exploding everywhere. There goes another one. LOL

Go Newt Go......


7 posted on 12/08/2011 12:35:17 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~.. Newt/Palin-West-2012."got a lot swirling around in my head.")
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Yeah, right.... Are we supposed to believe that over 70% of conservatives are supporting Obamacare, amnesty, gun-grabbing crony-capitalism, etc? That’s absurd, just like this poll.


8 posted on 12/08/2011 12:36:29 PM PST by Mechanicos (Why does the DOE have a SWAT Team?)
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To: Mustang Driver
Interesting that evangelicals are big supporters. He’s flawed. But who else do we have?

Interesting? Or humiliating? This is the end of the evangelical credibility IMO. The homo/lesbians are watching this with awe as the evangelicals declare morals, values, the Word, none of those matter anymore. Evil has won. I am ashamed I once called myself an evangelical or conservative.

9 posted on 12/08/2011 12:37:22 PM PST by Hattie
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Our rino beats your rino


10 posted on 12/08/2011 12:42:10 PM PST by skaterboy (Hate=Love....Love=Hate)
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To: Lady Lucky

? Newt the mandate,global warming,tarp,fannie and freddie lover getting rid of entitlements lol...funny


11 posted on 12/08/2011 12:44:43 PM PST by skaterboy (Hate=Love....Love=Hate)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

This kind of “lead” makes me uneasy but we’re better off without Romney no matter what our “betters” in the northeast establishment try to tell us.


12 posted on 12/08/2011 12:48:27 PM PST by newzjunkey (Republicans will find a way to reelect Obama and Speaker Pelosi.)
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To: Mechanicos

your right it’s all a big conspiracy... all the pollsters are in on it!

Last 5 Florida Polls

Survey USA
Newt 45
Romney 23

Quinnipac (this one still had Cain in it)
Newt 33
Romney 22

CNN/Time
Newt 48
Romney 25

Insider Advantage
Newt 41
Romney 17

PPP
Newt 47
Romney 17


13 posted on 12/08/2011 12:48:54 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Newt Gingrich 2012!)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
Gingrich gets 45%, Romney 23%, no one else is above 6%

This is heartening.

Not long ago I was denegrating Romney to otherwise conservatives when it appeared Romney was inevitable. There's no reason we have to accept a RINO again.

We suffered through Dole-McCain.

We deserve better, or at least more conservative.

14 posted on 12/08/2011 12:52:49 PM PST by cicero2k
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Absolutely they are all in on it. Ever hear of the AGW fraud? Same principle. They have millions of dollars in reasons to lie.


15 posted on 12/08/2011 1:14:01 PM PST by Mechanicos (Why does the DOE have a SWAT Team?)
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To: skaterboy

RINO....the most overused and misunderstood term on this forum.


16 posted on 12/08/2011 1:23:44 PM PST by traderrob6
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To: skaterboy

Our Rino is a notorious lib thumper!! Go Newt!!


17 posted on 12/08/2011 1:23:49 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Newt leads among the “very conservative” 3 to 1. It is becoming clear that the posters on here dumping on Newt day after day are not what they claim they are, and may be agents for other interests trying to sabotage his candidacy.


18 posted on 12/08/2011 1:25:25 PM PST by ez ("Abashed the Devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton, "Paradise Lost")
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To: Mustang Driver

Interesting that evangelicals are big supporters. He’s flawed. But who else do we have?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Hint: He’s the governor of Texas. And when the Southern Primaries are over... He’ll be the GOP contender.


19 posted on 12/08/2011 1:26:54 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: Hattie

I find it hilarious to watch you people claim that all of evangelical America and the conservative movement is gone bonkers instead of the much more obvous conclusion that you are simply WRONG.


20 posted on 12/08/2011 1:28:12 PM PST by ez ("Abashed the Devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton, "Paradise Lost")
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Lots of old people in Florida. Old people that remember when we had a great country (pre-1992).


21 posted on 12/08/2011 1:52:51 PM PST by Walrus (Big media is the natural enemy of liberty)
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To: ez

I think at least some of them are, but I suspect most of them are the annoying followers of Ron Paul.

It will be such a breath of fresh air in 2016 not to have Ron Paul and his rabid followers mucking up the process and rendering most straw polls meaningless.


22 posted on 12/08/2011 2:19:19 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Newt Gingrich 2012!)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
Gingrich - 45%
Romney - 23%
Undecided - 9%
A conservative - 8%

This does not bode well for America. The Republican Party is no longer the conservative party.

23 posted on 12/08/2011 3:08:03 PM PST by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Oh come on Republicans. I really want to vote in the general.....Bachmann/Santorum 2012.


24 posted on 12/08/2011 3:22:48 PM PST by napscoordinator (Anybody but Romney, Newt, Perry, Huntsman, Paul. Perry and Obama are 100 percent the same!!!!!)
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To: Hattie

I agree with you 1 million percent!!!


25 posted on 12/08/2011 3:25:02 PM PST by napscoordinator (Anybody but Romney, Newt, Perry, Huntsman, Paul. Perry and Obama are 100 percent the same!!!!!)
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To: ez

It is becoming clear that the posters on here dumping on Newt day after day are not what they claim they are, and may be agents for other interests trying to sabotage his candidacy.

I am one! Yep. No to immoral Newt. Conservatives are definitely changing their minds on social issues by supporting Newt. I guess the moderate Republicans are thrilled. I am not. Bachmann/Sanotrum is the only ticket that is 100 percent conservative!!!!!!


26 posted on 12/08/2011 3:28:40 PM PST by napscoordinator (Anybody but Romney, Newt, Perry, Huntsman, Paul. Perry and Obama are 100 percent the same!!!!!)
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To: ez

Gingrich is a person to whom it would hard to be committed on a simple emotional level, but there are a lot of people on FR who are looking for exactly that: somebody they’d want to go to church with, go to a movie with, eat dinner with, etc. or see as a standard bearer for all of their personal positions.

Unfortunately, no such candidate exists. You have to pick the one with whom you agree on most points (even if you don’t agree on the exact specifics of his approach) and who you think has the most possibility of being effective on carrying them out.

The minor candidates are minor for a reason. I thought Perry might be good, but he’s too inarticulate; we’ve already had that once with GWB, an excellent president in many ways and very conservative at heart, but somebody who couldn’t explain anything to a hostile audience and ended up backing down on his initial correct impulses just to appease his critics.

I wasn’t sure about Gingrich at first, but now I’m pretty certain that he could stand up to the attacks. I’m also pretty certain that I’d feel good about working for him (since I usually work everything from phone trees to headquarters set-up on campaigns).

I worked for GWB, although I knew his weaknesses (he was great when he addressed a friendly audience, useless when he had to speak to the rest of the world, just like Perry). After McCain chose Palin, I worked on that campaign, although with some embarrassment. Everybody I called said, ok, I’ll vote for him, but only because the alternative is unthinkable. Unfortunately, that wasn’t convincing to enough people...

But I think I could even be enthusiastic about working for Gingrich, not because I think he’s anybody I want to meet or anybody I care about personally, but because I like his ideas and I think he could achieve them. I hope.


27 posted on 12/08/2011 4:27:51 PM PST by livius
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To: TexasFreeper2009
Well, Gingrich and Obama are a good ego match for one another, but Gingrich still loses on personal popularity.

I'm not sure what's more amazing to me, that Republicans are prepared to make Newt Gingrich their 'conservative' standard bearer (if Gingrich is a conservative, than so is Romney), or that they'll do so knowing that Obama will win if they do. If this is just about not settling this time, and going over the cliff with the conservative flag flying, why not just go with Bachmann, or Santorum, who are clearly more conservative? Gingrich is neither conservative nor electable in my estimation. If you want a conservative plain and simple, go with Bachmann or Santorum, if you want to win, go with Romney...Gingrich in so many ways is the worst of both. Puzzling to me...

28 posted on 12/08/2011 4:28:42 PM PST by americanophile ("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives" - Ataturk)
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To: Mustang Driver

Interesting that evangelicals are big supporters. He’s flawed. But who else do we have?


Flawed? FLAWED??? PLAYOFFS!!!???!!! Flawed?

On his very best day he is “flawed.” On his worst...

Well, but, um, who else do we have?


29 posted on 12/08/2011 4:38:27 PM PST by PaleoBob
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To: PaleoBob

this is so freaking depressing.

We could wind up with 8 years of....Newt.

Good lord.

I am so pi$$ed at Paul Ryan right now.


30 posted on 12/08/2011 4:39:51 PM PST by Scotswife
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To: ez
It is becoming clear that the posters on here dumping on Newt day after day are not what they claim they are, and may be agents for other interests trying to sabotage his candidacy.

NO! Say it isn't so!

I am shocked, yes shocked, that such a thing can actually happen here.

Now I am beginning to wonder if other candidates are suffering the same fate at the hands of fake poseurs.

31 posted on 12/08/2011 4:54:49 PM PST by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: americanophile
"if Gingrich is a conservative, than so is Romney"

How soon they forget.

Romney hated Reagan. Denied being a Reagan conservative. And went about proving it. Aligned himself with Ted Kennedy. Saddled Massachusetts with budget busting RomneyCare, taxpayer funded "safe and legal" abortion, gay marriage, gun control, leftist judges and a completely destroyed Republican label in Massachusetts. And RomneyCare DID become the model and impetus for ObamaCare. And Romney still brags about it being a conservative free-market solution. Give me a break! Forget about the tax reaper pointing that gun at your head if you fail to comply. RomneyCare is free-market!! Myth says so.

At least Newt DID align himself with and support Ronald Reagan and the Reagan Revolution which brought down the Soviet Union. We win, they lose. He DID build a successful Republican majority. He did cut taxes, did reduce the deficit, did balance the budget, did block HillaryCare, did reform welfare, did allow us to reap the whirlwind of the two decades long Reagan economy!!

The tea party conservative Palin didn't run. Bachmann stumbled out of the gates. Perry quickly ran out of gas. Cain shot off like a rocket then crashed and burned. Santorum never even made it out of the gates. Huntsman can't find the gate. Paul doesn't have enough flaming spam monkeys in the polls and not enough money to buy them all. Thank God we don't have electronic voting.

Can't sit back and let Romney have a open field to run in.

Who you gonna call?

32 posted on 12/08/2011 5:06:54 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: Scotswife
I am so pi$$ed at Paul Ryan right now.

Why? You thought Paul Ryan was going to stop Newt??

33 posted on 12/08/2011 5:07:56 PM PST by Norman Bates
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To: Norman Bates

I didn’t think Newt had a prayer.

Ryan was my guy....I hoped and prayed right up until the part where he broke my heart.


34 posted on 12/08/2011 5:12:23 PM PST by Scotswife
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To: Jim Robinson

Obama it is then. Gingrich can’t win a general and you know it. If you want to make a statement while losing, might as well go with Bachmann or Santorum. Gingrich is a compromise all the way around from the conservative standards put forth on this forum.


35 posted on 12/08/2011 5:19:08 PM PST by americanophile ("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives" - Ataturk)
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To: Scotswife

I was hoping for Ryan too.


36 posted on 12/08/2011 5:20:07 PM PST by americanophile ("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives" - Ataturk)
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To: americanophile; Jim Robinson

I’m calling it for Gingrich.

At this point I agree with JR’s logic. The other conservatives are either irrelevant or have shot themselves in the foot.

That said, I’d still love a Gingrich/Perry ticket.


37 posted on 12/08/2011 5:22:57 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

bump!


38 posted on 12/08/2011 5:23:12 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: ez
It is becoming clear that the posters on here dumping on Newt day after day are not what they claim they are, and may be agents

Could you possibly elaborate on that?

Who do they claim to be?

What are their real motives? I would assume they are very specific motives.

39 posted on 12/08/2011 5:23:59 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit))
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To: americanophile

I know no such thing. I sincerely believe that Newt will crush Romney like a bug in the primaries and then with the ObamaCare-hating, Marxism-hating tea party and the vast majority of Republican conservative and moderate voters and like-minded independent voters will go on to defeat Obama and save or nation from falling off into the socialist abyss.


40 posted on 12/08/2011 5:26:46 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: americanophile

sigh.

It would have been fantastic.


41 posted on 12/08/2011 5:27:57 PM PST by Scotswife
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To: Jim Robinson

I don’t believe it, but I hope you’re right.


42 posted on 12/08/2011 5:36:07 PM PST by americanophile ("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives" - Ataturk)
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To: xzins
"...a Gingrich/Perry ticket..."

I highly doubt THAT will happen under any circumstances.

43 posted on 12/08/2011 5:39:49 PM PST by Ron C.
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To: Ron C.

It could happen. Reagan/Bush happened, and Gingrich/Perry makes more sense than that did.


44 posted on 12/08/2011 5:42:45 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

And after the debate this Saturday...Newt’s numbers should go up even more.

ABC News’ Republican presidential candidate debate in Iowa with ABC5/WOI-DT and the Republican Party of Iowa will take place on Saturday 10th December 2011.

This debate, to be moderated by ABC News anchors Diane Sawyer and George Stephanopoulos, will be held at a critical moment in the Republican nomination process - less than a month before the state’s “first-in-the-nation” caucuses.

The debate will air in primetime from 9:00-11:00 p.m., ET/PT nationally on the ABC Television Network, locally on ABC5/WOI-DT, and will air on ABCNews.com and Yahoo.com. It will be the only broadcast network debate in primetime before the caucuses. ABC News will re-air an excerpted version of the debate the following Sunday morning on “This Week with Christiane Amanpour.”

The candidates will be asked about the critical issues the country faces in front of a live audience on the campus of Drake University in Des Moines. The debate was initially announced on March 24.

Iowa and New Hampshire have long been make-or-break contests for candidates, and ABC News will be putting the crucial questions of the day to the contenders in both key states during two primetime debates. ABC News previously announced it will host a primetime debate in New Hampshire the Saturday before the Granite State’s “first in the nation” primary.


45 posted on 12/08/2011 6:16:50 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: americanophile

Ryan isn’t running. We have to BEAT Obama and his massive money machine. America can’t afford 1 more year of O..let alone 4 MORE!!!!! better believe this is one of the most crucial elections ever. Not just for us but for our children and grandchildren..I shudder to think of what will happen if Obama wins. Ryan, Cain, Palin are not in this race..we know what we have to deal with....better unite or be ready to face dire consequences. IF Newt goes down..Romney will go UP! not Perry or Santorum or Bachmann..but Romney.

Bring it on home Newt!


46 posted on 12/08/2011 6:24:45 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Next debate is Dec 10?


47 posted on 12/08/2011 6:37:40 PM PST by Lady Lucky ( Merry Christmas to all)
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To: Hattie
Interesting? Or humiliating? This is the end of the evangelical credibility IMO. The homo/lesbians are watching this with awe as the evangelicals declare morals, values, the Word, none of those matter anymore. Evil has won. I am ashamed I once called myself an evangelical or conservative.

In the Bible Paul of Tarsus is converted to Christianity, evangelical pastors call for the repentance of sinners at revival services, and everyday many pray for forgiveness of their sins. Why is it so hard to believe that this is not the same Newt Gingrich that is portrayed by those out to destroy his candidacy? His book on Rediscovering God in America and movie on John Paul II in Poland Nine Days that Changed the World show a side of him not known by many. To say "Evil has won" when describing Newt shows incredible bias.

48 posted on 12/08/2011 6:46:00 PM PST by CedarDave
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To: Hattie
Evil has won. I am ashamed I once called myself an evangelical or conservative.

I feel the same way. How easily are people manipulated? Even people that call themselves conservative.

Oh well, the media TELLS us that Newt can beat Obama.

49 posted on 12/08/2011 7:19:50 PM PST by alicewonders
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To: Hoodat
This does not bode well for America. The Republican Party is no longer the conservative party.

You are exactly right. I have a bad feeling today.

50 posted on 12/08/2011 7:32:52 PM PST by alicewonders
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