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The GOP cozies up to gay haters: Refererrences gay death penalty, and that's just for starters
New York Daily News ^ | December 7 2011 | James Kirchick

Posted on 12/08/2011 12:33:51 PM PST by presidio9

On Jan. 26, a man broke into the home of David Kato and proceeded to bash him to death with a hammer. Kato was a gay activist in Uganda, where the parliament has for the past two years been debating a bill that would not only impose the death penalty for homosexuality, but punish anyone who merely knows the existence of homosexuals yet doesn’t report them to the police. While the law has not passed, the environment in Uganda is such that many people believe they can attack and even kill gay people with impunity.

Indeed, in the months leading up to Kato’s murder, an atmosphere of hysterical hatred — given sanction by the country’s elected leaders — consumed Uganda. Three months before Kato was killed, a Ugandan newspaper published pictures of 100 “Top Homos” next to the banner “HANG THEM.” The bludgeoned corpse of David Kato is but one of the many consequences of state-sanctioned homophobia.

Although she did not mention Kato on Tuesday, Secretary of State Clinton must have had him in mind this week when she addressed delegates to the UN Human Rights Council in Geneva. It was there that she delivered what historians will one day look back upon as a monumental speech, in which she declared that the continuing oppression of gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgendered people is “one of the remaining human rights challenges of our time.”

Sexual minorities, Clinton said, “are treated with contempt and violence by their fellow citizens while authorities empowered to protect them look the other way or, too often, even join in the abuse.” She addressed the pernicious argument — common in Uganda and many other places — that homosexuality is “a Western invention,” plainly calling it a “human reality.” And she issued a challenge to a world in which more than 70 countries criminalize homosexuality: “It should never be a crime to be gay.” On the same day as Clinton’s speech, President Obama issued a directive instructing federal agencies to “ensure that U.S. diplomacy and foreign assistance promote and protect the human rights of LGBT persons.”

One would think that this long-overdue expression of support for a baseline principle of human rights — that people should not be imprisoned, never mind killed, because of their sexual orientation — would garner support from the broad American political spectrum. Nowhere in her speech did Clinton endorse marriage rights for gay people, nor their ability to adopt children, both of which remain contentious issues in the U.S. She merely put the full moral force of American diplomacy on the right side of a basic idea: that when it comes to the conflict between governments that harass and murder gay people and the targets of such harassment, America will stand with the victims.

But this was too much for some of the Republican presidential contenders, most notably Texas Gov. Rick Perry. Condemning the abuse of gay people overseas, he said, constitutes “a war with people of faith in this country,” a “war on traditional American values,” he specified, that “must stop.” He added that, “Promoting special rights for gays in foreign countries is not in America’s interests and not worth a dime of taxpayers’ money.” Those who have followed the debate over homosexuality in America have become used to the rhetorical trick that identifies equal rights in marriage, military service and employment as “special rights.” Now, apparently, not being killed can be added to the list.

Obama “has again mistaken America’s tolerance for different lifestyles with an endorsement of those lifestyles,” Perry concluded. “I will not make that mistake.”

That last sentence is chilling. Does it mean that, if elected President, Perry would reverse the American government’s opposition to the murder of homosexuals overseas?

Perry was joined in his denunciation by former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum, who said that “the administration is promoting their particular agenda in this country, and now they feel it’s their obligation to promote those values not just in the military, not just in our society, but now around the world with taxpayer dollars.”

Unfortunately, the ostensible adults in the race,

Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich, have as yet had nothing to say.

Of course, protecting the rights of gay people will rarely, if ever, be the sole consideration in American foreign policy. This conundrum is apparent in the U.S. government’s alleged

recent denial of asylum

to a Saudi diplomat who told American officials he is gay and would be persecuted were he to return to his country.

But it is never wrong to come out, so to speak, on the side of individual rights and dignity and against the forces of bigotry and fanaticism. How sad and pathetic that, at least for some, scoring cheap political points has warped their basic humanity.

***Kirchick is a fellow with the Foundation for Defense of Democracies and a contributing editor to The New Republic.***


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda

1 posted on 12/08/2011 12:33:55 PM PST by presidio9
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To: presidio9

The author is an outspoken critic of union thug violence, right? /sarc


2 posted on 12/08/2011 12:38:05 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: presidio9

How do most folks with HUSSEIN in their names view gay people?


3 posted on 12/08/2011 12:41:08 PM PST by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: presidio9

I guess there aren’t enough “gay hate crimes” committed by “conservatives” in the USA, so the media have to import some stories from distant Uganda to try and prove their point.


4 posted on 12/08/2011 12:41:54 PM PST by PGR88
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To: presidio9

Who didn’t see this coming. More people to put on the public dole. Perhaps they can go to Europe instead.


5 posted on 12/08/2011 12:41:54 PM PST by headstamp 2 (Time to move forward not to the center.)
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To: presidio9

Yet, the same liberals are the first ones to say, “Well that’s their laws, we have to respect them.” when some Muslim country executes a Christian for “blasphemy” or having a bible.


6 posted on 12/08/2011 12:43:49 PM PST by apillar
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To: presidio9
That last sentence is chilling. Does it mean that, if elected President, Perry would reverse the American government’s opposition to the murder of homosexuals overseas?

The stupidity seems to be boundless with some people. I used to be amazed when I saw garbage like this in print.. Seeing it is the chilling thing. That someone can so strangely link such things together and that sane people can read it without puking.

7 posted on 12/08/2011 12:44:25 PM PST by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks.)
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To: presidio9

“That last sentence is chilling. Does it mean that, if elected President, Perry would reverse the American government’s opposition to the murder of homosexuals overseas? “

How about the wholesale persecution and murder of Christians abroad? Oh, I’m sorry, we’re talking about the left here. Their “charity” only goes so far.


8 posted on 12/08/2011 12:44:25 PM PST by headstamp 2 (Time to move forward not to the center.)
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To: presidio9
Does it mean that, if elected President, Perry would reverse the American government’s opposition to the murder of homosexuals overseas?*****

So a homosexual get murdered in Uganda therefore the blame clearly falls on the US if we dare to cut foreign aid? Wow, why couldn't I see that?!!!!

9 posted on 12/08/2011 12:48:42 PM PST by bereanway
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To: presidio9

In the last nearly 14 years here, I have come across one person that thought homosexuals should be incarcerated, and have never seen someone suggest they should be killed or physically harmed.

I have some homosexual friends. On homosexual issues, I am honest with them. They obviously disagree with me, but we are respectful of each other.

If someone were to advocate violence against them, I would come to their defense in a heartbeat.

It is shocking to see someone on the Left be so incredibly stupid on this matter. I’m sure that even he if exposed to this sort of article written by someone else, would know down deep inside that it was a pack of lies.

Reading public, this is the type of person you support, when you’re a card carrying Democrat. Haven’t you had enough of it?


10 posted on 12/08/2011 12:49:43 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Romney, Newt, any chance whatsoever you might sometime pander to U.S. Citizens vs the illegals?)
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To: presidio9

I was always told that we as Americans had to respect, admire, even emulate, the admirable African cultures.

I mean, who are WE to denigrate their stern and admirable laws, or dare to impose our decadent Western thought upon these noble people?

She Who Must Not Be Named should be ashamed of Herself, trying to impose Western culture over African cultures.


11 posted on 12/08/2011 12:50:59 PM PST by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: presidio9

Truly laughable article. I actually chuckled at the way the author took Perry’s words “not endorsing the gay lifestyle” and turned them into “death to the queers!”. Even a log cabin republican would be embarrassed to have written such a screed.


12 posted on 12/08/2011 12:56:15 PM PST by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: presidio9

I’m just wondering if in Uganda , where the HIV/AIDS rate is astronomical ,, if the proposed law wouldn’t save millions of lives.


13 posted on 12/08/2011 12:56:33 PM PST by Neidermeyer
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To: presidio9

Murder is murder. It is not a matter of what the motive was. For the victim, the seriousness of the offense is the same, whether is was because of prejudice, jealousy, envy, or theft.

The only thing we must assess is whether the act was non justifiable (as self-defense), and was purposeful.

If we do not stick to simple rules of justice, we are in big trouble. A society without justice falls back on the remedy of revenge, and history shows that this easily becomes endless vendetta.


14 posted on 12/08/2011 1:05:22 PM PST by docbnj
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To: presidio9

What a tortured path of reasoning - Perry’s “I won’t make the same mistake as Obama” is the same as wanting to bludgeon homosexuals to death in Uganda - I worked with severe psychotics in a psychiatric hospital who showed better contact with reality......


15 posted on 12/08/2011 1:05:29 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: presidio9

Murder is murder. It is not a matter of what the motive was. For the victim, the seriousness of the offense is the same, whether is was because of prejudice, jealousy, envy, or theft.

The only thing we must assess is whether the act was non justifiable (as self-defense), and was purposeful.

If we do not stick to simple rules of justice, we are in big trouble. A society without justice falls back on the remedy of revenge, and history shows that this easily becomes endless vendetta.


16 posted on 12/08/2011 1:05:45 PM PST by docbnj
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To: headstamp 2
Sexual minorities, Clinton said, “are treated with

The left will continue abusing the term "minorities" for political purposes until it has no sympathetic meaning. Is not everyone a "minority" of one sort to another, from people of Chinese descent to the hated "One Percent?"

17 posted on 12/08/2011 1:06:36 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: presidio9

“The GOP cozies up to gay haters” is a complete lie on the part of the author/propagandist.


18 posted on 12/08/2011 1:11:23 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny ("Fair share" are the last two words I hear before I stop taking someone seriously.)
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To: presidio9

I’m really surprised that they would bring David Kato into this. Last I heard he was murdered by a homosexual whom he refused to pay off....

“....But a police source, who preferred anonymity because he is not authorised to talk to the press, said the suspect confessed to killing Kato because he was reportedly tired of engaging in homosexual practices.

“We have taken him to Mukono Magistrate’s Court to record an extrajudicial statement,” the source said. “He told us that he killed Kato after he failed to give him a car, a house and money he promised as rewards for having sex with him,” the source said.

Kato is alleged to have bailed the suspect out of Kawuga Prison on January 24, where he been remanded on charges of theft of a mobile phone. The suspect told police that he stayed with Kato for two days. He accused the deceased of having sex with him and promising to pay him during the period.”

http://www.monitor.co.ug/News/National/-/688334/1100686/-/c5a2fcz/-/


19 posted on 12/08/2011 1:17:40 PM PST by JoeDetweiler
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To: presidio9
This guy is just a liar. Perry was talking about gay MARRIAGE and other contentious issues in developed countries, not killing or otherwise persecuting gays.

Let's look at what this writer SAYS Rick Perry said, for example:

Condemning the abuse of gay people overseas, he said, constitutes “a war with people of faith in this country,” a “war on traditional American values,” he specified, that “must stop.”
Notice how and WHERE the quotes start and stop? It's because the lying writer couldn't make the same point with a truthful, full quote. Here is the written statement at issue:
Statement by Gov. Rick Perry on Obama Administration’s Use of Gay Rights to Make Foreign Aid Decisions
Posted on December 6th, 2011

AUSTIN – Gov. Rick Perry today issued the following statement:

“Just when you thought Barack Obama couldn’t get any more out of touch with America’s values, AP reports his administration wants to make foreign aid decisions based on gay rights.

“This administration’s war on traditional American values must stop.

“I have proposed a foreign aid budget that starts at zero. From that zero baseline, we will consider aid requests based solely on America’s national security interests. Promoting special rights for gays in foreign countries is not in America’s interests and not worth a dime of taxpayers’ money.

“But there is a troubling trend here beyond the national security nonsense inherent in this silly idea. This is just the most recent example of an administration at war with people of faith in this country. Investing tax dollars promoting a lifestyle many Americas of faith find so deeply objectionable is wrong.

“President Obama has again mistaken America’s tolerance for different lifestyles with an endorsement of those lifestyles. I will not make that mistake.”
It's obvious that Perry is talking about gay marriage and similar issues, not gay bashing/ killing/ persecution.

Effing columnist is just a flat out liar.

20 posted on 12/08/2011 1:21:32 PM PST by pogo101
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To: presidio9

We should embrace mutliculturalism, and let Uganda deal with its problem as it sees fit.

Nobody’s stopping the Muslim purge of the Middle East.


21 posted on 12/08/2011 1:22:13 PM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: presidio9

It seems the media will go to a lot of trouble to make it look like the republicans are in the wrong about everything.

It says in the Bible that a man laying with another man as he would lie with a woman is an abomination, and although i can not imagine the liberal news media reading the Bible even if they can read, it is also against human nature.

Not that i would even think of killing them, nor would any other conservative, but i will not be made to think they are normal acts because they are sick.

By the way, why don,t you liberal news people do a little history reporting, for instance how the slaves were whipped if they displeased the plantation owners who were democrats and were also the founders of this sick disease called liberalism ?

At any rate, i would be interested in hearing the lies coming from a liberal about who it was that really set the slaves free, come on now, can,t we hear something from you other than Gay, Gay ,Gay? is that all that your minds can relate to?


22 posted on 12/08/2011 1:27:06 PM PST by ravenwolf (Just a bit of the long list of proofsre)
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To: ravenwolf

“But this was too much for some of the Republican presidential contenders, most notably Texas Gov. Rick Perry. Condemning the abuse of gay people overseas, he said, constitutes “a war with people of faith in this country,” a “war on traditional American values,” he specified, that “must stop.” He added that, “Promoting special rights for gays in foreign countries is not in America’s interests and not worth a dime of taxpayers’ money.” Those who have followed the debate over homosexuality in America have become used to the rhetorical trick that identifies equal rights in marriage, military service and employment as “special rights.” Now, apparently, not being killed can be added to the list. “

And the problem is?


23 posted on 12/08/2011 1:48:33 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (To fix government, we need a rocket scientist. Oh, wait we have one!)
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To: The_Media_never_lie
One gay guy killed in an act of workplace violence has Hillary and the writer up in arms. Where is their outrage when 50 Christians are murdered for practicing their religion? I never hear Hillary open her big mouth about those victims.
24 posted on 12/08/2011 2:02:50 PM PST by peeps36 (America is being destroyed by filthy traitors in the political establishment)
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To: JoeDetweiler
Wasn't aware of that development. I did follow enough about the Kato case to see that attempts to connect his murder to the gay movement's enemies were premature and without proof.

I don't think the New York Daily News will print a correction on this, but perhaps it's worth trying to get them to fix the record.

25 posted on 12/08/2011 2:33:35 PM PST by Dumb_Ox
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To: peeps36

I agree. The selective outrage is maddening.

If the victim is not in the protected/favored class, they don’t matter.

The media trumpets this b.s., and the gullible buys into it.


26 posted on 12/08/2011 2:36:06 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: presidio9

This guy is a joke. He makes wild jumps in logic, puts up the most half arsed straw man I have ever seen and then knocks it down with wild swings of indignation and self righteousness. If this is what passes for intelligence nowadays then we are all in big trouble.

The real problem is that so many intellectual sloths and lefties will eat it up!

Mel


27 posted on 12/08/2011 2:36:59 PM PST by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong....)
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To: presidio9

Leftwing insanity.

Not agreeing with a particular lifestyle and not wanting government to promote it does not mean you want them all dead.

lol.


28 posted on 12/08/2011 2:38:55 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Dumb_Ox

Good Luck :)

Actually, if you read carefully there is nothing to correct. They never actually say that Kato was killed due to so called homophobia. They just imply it. Oldest journalistic trick in the book (except, perhaps, getting an “expert” to express the opinions that the journalist wants to express but can’t...because he’s impartial, don’t ya know?)


29 posted on 12/08/2011 3:09:08 PM PST by JoeDetweiler
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To: EQAndyBuzz

“But this was too much for some of the Republican presidential contenders, most notably Texas Gov. Rick Perry. Condemning the abuse of gay people overseas, he said, constitutes “a war with people of faith in this country,” a “war on traditional American values,” he specified, that “must stop.” He added that, “Promoting special rights for gays in foreign countries is not in America’s interests and not worth a dime of taxpayers’ money.” Those who have followed the debate over homosexuality in America have become used to the rhetorical trick that identifies equal rights in marriage, military service and employment as “special rights.” Now, apparently, not being killed can be added to the list. “

And the problem is?


I believe it goes far beyond equal rights, if we are going to have equal rights,lets have them, for instance if a young 14 year old girl wants to have sex with a 40 year old man should equal rights come into play there too? after all its the same liberals who are advocating childrens rights so should the 40 year old man have the same rights as the 14 year old girl, just an instance but is that too far out?

I would think that nothing would be too far out for any one who would except gay marriage as any kind of life style.

I believe people have a right to live the way they want, but i do not blow smoke in some one else,s face and i don,t want some one blowing any thing in mine.


30 posted on 12/08/2011 3:31:10 PM PST by ravenwolf (Just a bit of the long list of proofsre)
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To: presidio9

The headline is as lieing as the rest of the article. There are no Republicans, candidate or not that would advocate killing Gays.


31 posted on 12/08/2011 4:55:49 PM PST by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: presidio9

If the Daily Snooze feels it has to stoke up the gays to vote for Obama they KNOW he is in trouble. This piece is good news.


32 posted on 12/09/2011 5:04:29 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: ravenwolf

“I believe it goes far beyond equal rights, if we are going to have equal rights,lets have them...”

The only way we will ever have equal rights in this country is by getting rid of all the equal rights laws. They are not meant to give equal rights. They are meant to take rights away from one class of people(mainly white, christian males) and give them to another class.

In trying to be fair, our congress implemented the most unfair law known to mankind.


33 posted on 12/09/2011 5:58:01 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (To fix government, we need a rocket scientist. Oh, wait we have one!)
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