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Romney's $10,000 bet highlights personal wealth (RINO Romney is toast; Peggy Noonan deeply saddened)
Associated Press ^ | 12/11/11 | STEVE PEOPLES

Posted on 12/10/2011 9:34:14 PM PST by jimbo123

He could have bet a beer. Or maybe a steak dinner.

But during a heated dispute with Rick Perry during Saturday night's debate in Des Moines, Iowa, Mitt Romney extended his right hand and asked the Texas governor if he'd wager $10,000 to settle a dispute over his healthcare record. The rich bet instantly provided Romney's opponents with new ammunition for their charge that he's out of touch with middle-class America.

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KEYWORDS: gaffe; majorfoulup; oops; perry; rickperry; romney; romneybet
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To: 353FMG
Pray tell, WHAT will Radio Host-ette and seller of hypocritical morals-themed books Laura Ingraham have to say, too (stalking for Romney type), who earlier helped facilitate or encourage with considerable glee the pile-on character assassination of Herman Cain ("because he cannot win, he is not part of the "DC club").

Lots of faux conservative RINO talking heads with sheeple GOP radio following(sI are going to be soiling their diapers over the weekend over this. So close, yet so far (the nomination, or coronation for that matter).


51 posted on 12/11/2011 12:03:54 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Leaning for BACHMANN or SANTORUM. Lobby me for (but not against) via FReepmail if you wish...)
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To: jimbo123

Who does NOT estimate Romney and Perry to be rich? This is like a $10 bar bet among working men. However wise or foolish, it’s being blown way out of proportion.


52 posted on 12/11/2011 12:06:16 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: Semper911
Huh? What the heck is that? Government funds going into Obama's campaign stash?

It means government employees reporting to the Hildebeest forked over that amount. It's not taxpayer money

53 posted on 12/11/2011 12:09:14 AM PST by cynwoody
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To: rogue yam
Clearly he has an agenda but he is not ever going to tell us regular folk what it is.

Oh, come on. All you have to do is look at him. And all he has to do is look in a mirror.

54 posted on 12/11/2011 12:13:13 AM PST by cynwoody
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To: expat1000
Start with A-G Holder, or perhaps you think the agenda he is implementing is not that big a deal.
Yes, and I am equally if not more concerned about Romney's top advisor Ron Kaufman who promotes organized labor and progressive interests: http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Alt/alt.politics.bush/2008-01/msg01411.html
55 posted on 12/11/2011 12:24:25 AM PST by Timaeus (I will vote for any GOP nominee but Willard Mitt Romney)
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To: psjones
Who wouldn’t bet $10,000 if they knew it was a sure bet?

Doesn't bother me, but I'm thinking there's a lot of folks in Iowa who don't approve of gambling.

56 posted on 12/11/2011 12:53:00 AM PST by Hugin ("Most time a man'll tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear"--Open Range)
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To: Semper911

Exactly. I can already see him grinning on the TV waving at his supporters, the NBC/CBS/ABC drone saying “This history-making night for this historic presidency” or somesuch babble, Chris Matthews and the rest of the MSNBC pipsqueaks whipping away tears.

I should label my own post with a Barf Alert.


57 posted on 12/11/2011 1:10:18 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Is it really time to go?)
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To: jimbo123; SevenofNine

58 posted on 12/11/2011 1:12:31 AM PST by monkapotamus
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To: rogue yam

We will have to learn to cultivate a backbone as well. When the liberal media decides to make up things that they know will cause us to question our candidates and people who say they are conservatives complain that the candidate isn’t ready harangue us every day trying to get us to support their RINOs, we have to be willing to stop listening and tell the CINOs to shut up.

I don’t worry about whether a candidate is ready. If we have to wait for ready, we will end up with the same lying, phony conservative we’ve always gotten. (Hear that Marco.) They tell us Sarah Palin wasn’t ready, Herman Cain wasn’t ready, Michele Bachmann isn’t ready. But each of them is a conservative who would stand up for what we believe and would not sell out our citizens or our sovereignty. I cannot say that about any of the RINOs, moderates and panderers out there running for office now.

It is an absolute disgrace when a nation throws it’s principles out for slick lying comforts because they want someone who can “win.”


59 posted on 12/11/2011 2:08:19 AM PST by Waryone
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To: RIghtwardHo

“And that is the end of RINO Romney.”

That doesn’t mean it’s a new beginning for conservatives :/


60 posted on 12/11/2011 2:42:37 AM PST by ari-freedom
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To: Sonny M
My fear, is that many of Obamas disastrous policies, if implemented by Romney, could become far more dangerous.

Interesting point. Also, having a Republican do it would essentially neutralize the ability of the GOP to halt or hinder the transformation of the US into a socialist paradise. And I don't think Romney would be really averse to the police state aspects of doing so, either.

In any case, I was out and missed the debate (I'll try to watch a replay later) but it sounds as if things went about as expected.

61 posted on 12/11/2011 3:04:01 AM PST by livius
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To: jimbo123
Ha ha....Mitt is gambling, not with his money, but with other peoples' money. Typical establishment elitist RINO liberal.
62 posted on 12/11/2011 3:05:27 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: jimbo123
Mitt, I don't like you because you are the son of a Michigan Governor, I don't like you because you were the Massachusetts Governor....anyone where their main political experience is connected with elected office in liberal states like those, I want no part of.
63 posted on 12/11/2011 3:08:06 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: 353FMG

Maybe true. He just wants to fritter our freedoms away while he has an easy time of playing king in DC, surrounded by an adoring MSM and wheeling/dealing our personal rights down the toilet.


64 posted on 12/11/2011 3:09:30 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: indianrightwinger
Perry was steady and strong

Perry's comment about a Texas Handshake and Marriage Vows aimed at Gingrich was in poor taste

He should stay on the issues

The voters know all about Gingrich's past
65 posted on 12/11/2011 4:35:31 AM PST by uncbob
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To: uncbob

He was asked a question and he gave a very good answer. And Perry never mentioned Newt or anyone else.


66 posted on 12/11/2011 4:54:16 AM PST by Iowegian
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To: PALIN SMITH

***Because these dopes, as you call them, showed the courage to stand up!***

You get it;)

Whatever the motivation behind volunteering for public office - these ‘beauty pageants’ have to be the most demeaning/exhilarating/exhausting/painful/challenging/unnerving/despicable/debilitating/sweat flopping experiences for any ‘normal’ human being.

Having to defend your life from birth, through adolescence (Newt’s first marriage), college courses, elective office infighting, marital conflict, all your conversations with every person you ever met, odd family members, religious conversion, jewelry purchases, diet and all other hobbies or interests unrelated to governing.


67 posted on 12/11/2011 6:12:11 AM PST by sodpoodle ( Gingrich - flying solo - without congressional baggage!!!)
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To: Semper911
I don't think Palin has regrets because as I said all along, I think she was constantly polling and was convinced that she could not budget the high negative numbers. I don't think it's cowardice---I think it's reality. Where someone like Cain messed up was in thinking that he could conceal the appearance of inappropriate behavior in a national campaign.

This is why low-level political experience as a house member or senator is important. Usually, you learn what you need to do to overcome these things. In retrospect, Palin should have run against Murkowski for the senate seat.

68 posted on 12/11/2011 6:24:41 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: Semper911
But Obama will be giving out free pie.

Not to everyone, though. Somebody's got to pay for the pie.

69 posted on 12/11/2011 6:31:18 AM PST by rogue yam
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To: cynwoody
Oh, come on. All you have to do is look at him. And all he has to do is look in a mirror.

I do not believe that Mitt Romney is 100% self-seeking.

I think he is at least in part trying to help carry out God's plan on this Earth (as are many of us).

The problem I have is that I am not privy to what Romney thinks God's plan is.

70 posted on 12/11/2011 6:36:33 AM PST by rogue yam
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To: 353FMG
Whatever you think of Romney, you cannot convince me that he wants the destruction of this nation that Obama wants.

I agree, but like all RINO's he would take the path of least resistance as President and try to please everyone. Everyone except Conservatives.

71 posted on 12/11/2011 6:39:21 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Hugin
Doesn't bother me, but I'm thinking there's a lot of folks in Iowa who don't approve of gambling.

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is opposed to gambling, including lotteries sponsored by governments. Church leaders have encouraged Church members to join with others in opposing the legalization and government sponsorship of any form of gambling.

http://lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?locale=0&sourceId=c9bb2f2324d98010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&vgnextoid=bbd508f54922d010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD

72 posted on 12/11/2011 6:40:13 AM PST by rogue yam
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To: jimbo123
Heck, anyone gonna highlight Newt Gingrich's $500,000. debt/line of credit at Tiffanys?

These people are so out of touch with the average joe-six-pack it's not even funny.

Our representative republic was set up so that any American with a desire to serve in public capacity could do so.

Now, you have to be a millionaire to even come close to getting your message out and run a campaign.

Our system has been grossly perverted.

73 posted on 12/11/2011 6:44:29 AM PST by servantboy777
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To: jimbo123
It was a stupid move. Romney is so out of touch.

That said, everyone is missing the larger context, here. And most seem to be falling for it. It's class warfare. Romney gave everyone the 'GOP are nothing but rich _______.' stick, and even conservatives are using it to beat him.

Yes, Romney's fault. But don't be so quick to fall into the MSM trap.

Perry should have countered with donating the money to a charity like Wounded Warriors.

74 posted on 12/11/2011 6:45:25 AM PST by rintense (You do not advance conservatism by becoming more liberal.)
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To: Waryone

I agree with most of what you wrote but Sen. Rubio decided not to get in and Mr. Cain withdrew from the race, each for reasons of his own.

Our candidates chose for themselves to step forward (or not) and we are free to nominate whichever we prefer from among them. I think people complain too much about our slate and how it was formed.


75 posted on 12/11/2011 6:46:57 AM PST by rogue yam
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To: LS

In hindsight, considering Newt’s rise to the top, Palin could have absolutely overcome any negative numbers.


76 posted on 12/11/2011 6:49:55 AM PST by rintense (You do not advance conservatism by becoming more liberal.)
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To: GregH
Unlike Obozo’s half million dollar Hawaiian vacations funded by taxpayers, atleast Romney is spending his own money.

Romney is still a radical socialist and unacceptable. Since he is a socialist, he is a fool.

77 posted on 12/11/2011 7:09:12 AM PST by JimWayne
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To: rintense
I disagree, but we'll never know. Part of running for president is being willing to take the hits over a very long timer (as Newt has, and has Romney). Newt was written off for dead six months ago (I wrote him off too).

Whatever Palin was reading in her polling, it had to convince her that the numbers would not move. I agree. I know too many religious, conservative women who just can't stand her and too many young people who don't like her.

78 posted on 12/11/2011 7:18:33 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: LS
I know too many religious, conservative women who just can't stand her and too many young people who don't like her.

But LS, the same can be said about Newt, too. Just look at FR.

79 posted on 12/11/2011 7:21:05 AM PST by rintense (You do not advance conservatism by becoming more liberal.)
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To: livius
And I don't think Romney would be really averse to the police state aspects of doing so, either.

You know, I could seriously see Romney bragging about how efficient he runs a police state compared to anyone else, lol.

80 posted on 12/11/2011 9:25:16 AM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: rogue yam

People settle for less because they trust in man more than God. Do what is right. Choose the person who holds to what is right. Don’t worry about who the media or elites say can win, or is ready or not. As long as conservatives decide they have to choose someone the world thinks can win, they will choose a loser.

I’m glad Marco Rubio did not run. He’s a panderer like Ricky LaRaza and Newtron Amnewtsty. They all talk conservative but not one of them cares enough about the citizens of this country to stand up for our possessions or our sovereignty.

We don’t have a slate yet. Not even one vote has been cast. But you can see the hand of the elites at work. The insiders and elites still have their champion. Now they are trying to convince their old champion it’s time for him to move on.


81 posted on 12/11/2011 12:06:47 PM PST by Waryone
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To: monkapotamus

GOD Mitt such a TOOL

ROFL


82 posted on 12/11/2011 12:17:14 PM PST by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: jimbo123

Yes, the $10,000 wager was definitely a sign that Romney is out of touch with middle class America. But I think that the real controversy is that the Mormon religion, which Romney belongs to, forbids gambling.


83 posted on 12/11/2011 12:29:29 PM PST by SamAdams76 (I am 53 days away from outliving Marty Feldman)
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To: SamAdams76
This wager was silly but no major blunder unless the media (which seems to favor Newt G.) choose to do so. It has, however, overshadowed some troubling points M. Romney made during the debates that now will be ignored.

Whatever, Santorum won the debate.

84 posted on 12/11/2011 12:42:05 PM PST by apocalypto
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To: indianrightwinger

Pretty good analysis of the debate.

I wasn’t as enamored with Santorum as you, but agree with everything else.

Pompous, angry grandpa? LOL

Trying very hard not to knock Newt or any other candidate, but Newt does have the little temper problem with people not as smart as he is... and, since nobody is as smart as he is, he has a problem.


85 posted on 12/11/2011 12:47:21 PM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: Semper911

Why do you say Perry doesn’t have a chance at this point?

Has there been a vote and I missed it?

He has an excellent chance. Romney is gone and Newt’s popularity is paper thin.


86 posted on 12/11/2011 12:49:13 PM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: uncbob

Perry said what he believes and what he’s lived about marriage.

He didn’t bring the topic up, nor did he mention Newt.

If you want to complain, complain to that stupid, annoying female moderator. omigosh was she irritating.


87 posted on 12/11/2011 12:52:03 PM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: altura
He has an excellent chance. Romney is gone and Newt’s popularity is paper thin.

Perry has an excellent chance? Not so much.

We'll see soon enough.

88 posted on 12/11/2011 1:08:36 PM PST by Semper911 (When you want to rob Peter to pay Paul, you'll always have the support of Paul.)
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